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For years I've been dreaming of living in Spain.

In April my wife and I sold all our things to give it a shot for a couple of months.

We drove from Denmark to the Murcia region. Why the Murcia region? It has a lot of golf resorts with a lot of nice, available apartments and a bunch of swimming pools across the resort. It's mainly Dutch and British people who owns the apartments, and my guess is they only use it for a couple of weeks every year and rent it out the rest of the time.

We've just been using AirBnB to rent our apartments here, but if you plan to live here for at least a year, you can get a fully furnished two bedroom apartment with a rooftop terrace, free WiFi, free cable and a swimming pool just a few meters from your front door for only €395/month.

We've been paying around €500-650/month, depending on the apartment. It was cheaper in May than in June and July with the high season around the corner.

We're living at the Condado de Alhama Golf Resort, but there a ton of golf resorts in the Murcia region you can choose between.

Here's how you actually get to live in an €395/month luxury golf resort apartment:

1. Start by checking the place out by booking a week or so in an AirBnB apartment. You don't want to sign a 12-month lease, if you don't like the place.

2. If you like it, visit one of the rental companies on the resort. There are around 1000 apartments here, so there are a couple of rental companies doing business here. Some of them are selling apartments, others are doing short term vacation rentals. But some are also doing long term rentals, and it's these companies you wanna talk to. I wrote to a couple of them to see, if it was possible to rent their apartments on a shorter lease, but they wouldn't accept less than a 12 month rental. If I should book a 12 month long term rental apartment, I would contact this company. You can see their rental properties on their website and the prices as well.

3. Enjoy your new sunny life.

If you're going to do this, I can really recommend this resort. Here some of the facilities located at the resort:
  • A 18 hole golf course
  • A Spar shop for food and beers
  • Restaurants
  • Bars
  • Bike rental
  • Gym
  • A bunch of swimming pools across the resort
  • 2 tennis courts
  • Football pitch
  • Free parking at your apartment
  • Gated community with 24-hour security
And all the apartments pretty much include the same. It can vary wether the owner has installed a dishwasher, but every apartment we've stayed at least had a washing machine.

The apartments are usually equipped with:
  • Free WiFi
  • Free British cable
  • A small terrace outside your door
  • A rooftop terrace, if you get an first floor apartment. Ground floor apartments has a small garden
  • A dishwasher
  • A washing machine
  • Aircondition
  • Outdoor furniture
  • Close to communal pool
  • Free parking right beside the apartment
  • Towels and linen
  • Full kitchen
  • Oven
  • Microwave oven
  • Toaster
  • Kitchen equipment so you can cook dinner yourself
  • Big fridge and a freezer
  • Bathtub
This is what the €395/month apartment looks like:

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And you have a couple of mountains nearby which are perfect for hikers or cyclists.

If I should name some cons, it would be the need of a car. You don't NEED it to live here, but it will be way easier to experience Spain with a car here. You have around 10-15 km's to the nearest town. There are bus departures from the resort a couple of times every day to the cities nearby, but if you want to experience something else while staying here, a car would be great for you. If you just want to stay here, relax and enjoy the pool, you can get by with the shop and restaurants at the resort.

If you don't want to do a full year, rent an AirBnb apartment here instead for a few weeks or months. Try to avoid the high season (July and August) where the prices skyrocket. Booking a full year apartment, you can enjoy living here for €395 per month in the high season, where others have to pay €1,400-2,000 / month.

And with the free WiFi, it's just so easy to work here. No need for going to cafés or restaurants or use your cellphone data to get work done. Every apartment has a free 10 mbit connection. And the apartments are equipped with minium four beds, so it's even possible to bring your family. Oh, and there are around 18 km to the beach, which is close enough for me.

It doesn't have to be expensive or hard to move to a warmer and sunny country.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I will try to answer the best I can.
 

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For years I've been dreaming of living in Spain.

In April my wife and I sold all our things to give it a shot for a couple of months.

We drove from Denmark to the Murcia region. Why the Murcia region? It has a lot of golf resorts with a lot of nice, available apartments and a bunch of swimming pools across the resort. It's mainly Dutch and British people who owns the apartments, and my guess is they only use it for a couple of weeks every year and rent it out the rest of the time.

We've just been using AirBnB to rent our apartments here, but if you plan to live here for at least a year, you can get a fully furnished two bedroom apartment with a rooftop terrace, free WiFi, free cable and a swimming pool just a few meters from your front door for only €395/month.

We've been paying around €500-650/month, depending on the apartment. It was cheaper in May than in June and July with the high season around the corner.

We're living at the Condado de Alhama Golf Resort, but there a ton of golf resorts in the Murcia region you can choose between.

Here's how you actually get to live in an €395/month luxury golf resort apartment:

1. Start by checking the place out by booking a week or so in an AirBnB apartment. You don't want to sign a 12-month lease, if you don't like the place.

2. If you like it, visit one of the rental companies on the resort. There are around 1000 apartments here, so there are a couple of rental companies doing business here. Some of them are selling apartments, others are doing short term vacation rentals. But some are also doing long term rentals, and it's these companies you wanna talk to. I wrote to a couple of them to see, if it was possible to rent their apartments on a shorter lease, but they wouldn't accept less than a 12 month rental. If I should book a 12 month long term rental apartment, I would contact this company. You can see their rental properties on their website and the prices as well.

3. Enjoy your new sunny life.

If you're going to do this, I can really recommend this resort. Here some of the facilities located at the resort:
  • A 18 hole golf course
  • A Spar shop for food and beers
  • Restaurants
  • Bars
  • Bike rental
  • Gym
  • A bunch of swimming pools across the resort
  • 2 tennis courts
  • Football pitch
  • Free parking at your apartment
  • Gated community with 24-hour security
And all the apartments pretty much include the same. It can vary wether the owner has installed a dishwasher, but every apartment we've stayed at least had a washing machine.

The apartments are usually equipped with:
  • Free WiFi
  • Free British cable
  • A small terrace outside your door
  • A rooftop terrace, if you get an first floor apartment. Ground floor apartments has a small garden
  • A dishwasher
  • A washing machine
  • Aircondition
  • Outdoor furniture
  • Close to communal pool
  • Free parking right beside the apartment
  • Towels and linen
  • Full kitchen
  • Oven
  • Microwave oven
  • Toaster
  • Kitchen equipment so you can cook dinner yourself
  • Big fridge and a freezer
  • Bathtub
This is what the €395/month apartment looks like:

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And you have a couple of mountains nearby which are perfect for hikers or cyclists.

If I should name some cons, it would be the need of a car. You don't NEED it to live here, but it will be way easier to experience Spain with a car here. You have around 10-15 km's to the nearest town. There are bus departures from the resort a couple of times every day to the cities nearby, but if you want to experience something else while staying here, a car would be great for you. If you just want to stay here, relax and enjoy the pool, you can get by with the shop and restaurants at the resort.

If you don't want to do a full year, rent an AirBnb apartment here instead for a few weeks or months. Try to avoid the high season (July and August) where the prices skyrocket. Booking a full year apartment, you can enjoy living here for €395 per month in the high season, where others have to pay €1,400-2,000 / month.

And with the free WiFi, it's just so easy to work here. No need for going to cafés or restaurants or use your cellphone data to get work done. Every apartment has a free 10 mbit connection. And the apartments are equipped with minium four beds, so it's even possible to bring your family. Oh, and there are around 18 km to the beach, which is close enough for me.

It doesn't have to be expensive or hard to move to a warmer and sunny country.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I will try to answer the best I can.
Funnily enough, some of us from one of these sun & pool regions do the opposite thing: leave and go to a country with sh*t weather, because work in Spain tends to be cr*p.

That's why we need a fastlane.
 

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spain in the winter is a great idea - southern spain,malaga,valencia seems like a really cool spot.

/how much is electricity per month?
 
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When I have a good job anywhere, I cant go to Spain in winter.

When I have no job, I cant afford Spain in winter; social security wont pay, when I m in spain.

When I m rich, I dont care about what it costs.

So there is no solution from this thread. For me no value....

Or don t I get something?
 

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Def paradise if you have income from a real country elsewhere. Or earn your money online. For income in Spain, you'd want to be: politician, public employee, retired, lawyer, real state agent, salesman or banker. all of those requiring being born in the country , probably with right friends, and being mentally Spanish.
 

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When I have a good job anywhere, I cant go to Spain in winter.

When I have no job, I cant afford Spain in winter; social security wont pay, when I m in spain.

When I m rich, I dont care about what it costs.

So there is no solution from this thread. For me no value....

Or don t I get something?
i think the majority of people on this forum has or wants to have a job that is more or less location independant.
 

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When I have a good job anywhere, I cant go to Spain in winter.

When I have no job, I cant afford Spain in winter; social security wont pay, when I m in spain.

When I m rich, I dont care about what it costs.

So there is no solution from this thread. For me no value....

Or don t I get something?
You get to understand that you must first decide how you want to live your life. Then you work out a plan that takes you towards it rather than away. YOU control your own destiny.

This thread gives you a reason to commit to something of value that will help you achieve something worthwhile over time.

So there IS value in every word. It's up to you whether you act upon it or not.
 

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I'm seriously looking at Tuscany this year. But I think we will stay in France for a time too.
 

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if you would lease this appartement for 12 months - could you sub-rent it out in the high season - or do they forbid that?
 

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spain in the winter is a great idea - southern spain,malaga,valencia seems like a really cool spot.

/how much is electricity per month?
My parents are paying 40-50 euros/month now. It used to be insane, like 200+ euros bills.
 
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Oh... the Spanish dream :)

It sure looks nice, but as others said, Spain has it's own set of problems (empoyment, etc). You need to have a location independent income before moving here, or forget about it.

Plus, after a few months on the golf course, won't you get tired of it?

There's a lot of places like this.. many with loads of half-finished construction that has been sitting there for more than 10 years now.

If you have kids, things change as well.. you'd want to be closer to a city, school, etc.

Moving and at the same time enlisting your kids in a good public school is a pain, if not impossible. Or you have to go private, which of course costs more.

The southern coastal area's stay quite warm in winter, but it's still winter (rain, wind, cold). 50 km inland, and Spain gets REALLY cold in winter, and the houses are not designed for this.

If you're considering moving to Spain coastal areas: don't move there between may and september. It will be impossible to find a long-term appartment (have to wait for September/Oktober for those to become available again).
 

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I wonder how hard it'll be for a Brit to move countries after the UK leaves the EU
 

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I wonder how hard it'll be for a Brit to move countries after the UK leaves the EU
Very good question. As far as I can gather from official channels the answer is:

At the moment the freedom of movement, as far as Brexit is concerned, ceases December this year.

To guarantee being able to live within the EU you will need to be a resident in any EU country by then. Most EU countries require you to be a resident for 5 years before you can become a citizen of that country (unless you have pots of money to invest in one of the various fast track options)

This may very well change. Lots of people say that there is no way that many EU countries would want to turn down fairly wealthy Brits wanting to move to their country, but I see that as just wishful thinking.

If you don’t have access to an Irish passport, or Italian ancestry for example, and you want to still have all your options open then moving before the barrier comes down is probably your only option at present.

We will most likely be relocated to Italy before the deadline hits.

Anyone else with useful info please do share.
 

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Very good question. As far as I can gather from official channels the answer is:

At the moment the freedom of movement, as far as Brexit is concerned, ceases December this year.

To guarantee being able to live within the EU you will need to be a resident in any EU country by then. Most EU countries require you to be a resident for 5 years before you can become a citizen of that country (unless you have pots of money to invest in one of the various fast track options)

This may very well change. Lots of people say that there is no way that many EU countries would want to turn down fairly wealthy Brits wanting to move to their country, but I see that as just wishful thinking.

If you don’t have access to an Irish passport, or Italian ancestry for example, and you want to still have all your options open then moving before the barrier comes down is probably your only option at present.

We will most likely be relocated to Italy before the deadline hits.

Anyone else with useful info please do share.
Interesting! I will have a lot of cash once my house sells, however being in the UK is beneficial for business (as I don't speak any other language). On the other hand, as long as shipping to the USA isn't more expensive, I wouldn't lose out too much.

I was looking at Scotland too. It's a risk but as they are likely to leave the UK within the next few years, what's the chances they'll rejoin the EU? Anyone in Scotland on the day they leave the UK becomes a Scottish citizen, then if they join the EU, an EU citizen.

I adore Italy! Good luck with your move :) I'm not sure where I'd go, I hate bureaucracy, and how would I decide where to spend FIVE years?! Lol :p
 

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It’s only in the 60’s. It was 90 in Bangkok today. Right now me and my girl are stuffing ourselves over some good sushi for $8, riding the nice motorcycle we rent for $8 a day back to our really nice Airbnb for $25 a night.

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It’s only in the 60’s. It was 90 in Bangkok today. Right now me and my girl are stuffing ourselves over some good sushi for $8, riding the nice motorcycle we rent for $8 a day back to our really nice Airbnb for $25 a night.
The big issues with Bangkok (and many places in Southeast Asia to be more precise) are high humidity (it's unbearable for many people who aren't accustomed to it), noise pollution, air pollution, and crazy traffic jams.

Spain does have some wetter periods but it's generally much, much drier. It also enjoys great air quality year round which is uncommon in Bangkok (even today as you chill by the pool, in certain areas of the city air quality is hazardous or unhealthy for sensitive groups).

I definitely prefer higher temperatures that Bangkok offers (minus humidity), but there are other environmental factors that make Spain an attractive destination for many people (it's a shame how much bureaucracy and taxes buying property there involves).
 

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As far as UK goes, hell will freeze before any Spanish city hall refuses property investments from a Brit. So no worries there. Specially not now when the communist government is going to ruin the economy and will have to seek out investments after a year or so in power.
 

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i am paying 750$ a month for 1 bedroom apartment in the mid west, and it's always cold or too hot, and windy here. even when it's 75 degree outside, and sunny it's always windy to the point that makes you stay inside, and too much rain. i didn't mention there is also nothing to do here. good luck enjoy life man.
 

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Italians dream of going to live in florida or california or somewhere in the states.

Why does an American dream of living in Tuscany? (I know that the Tuscan is beautiful don't get me wrong)
 

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Oh... the Spanish dream :)

It sure looks nice, but as others said, Spain has it's own set of problems (empoyment, etc). You need to have a location independent income before moving here, or forget about it.

Plus, after a few months on the golf course, won't you get tired of it?

There's a lot of places like this.. many with loads of half-finished construction that has been sitting there for more than 10 years now.

If you have kids, things change as well.. you'd want to be closer to a city, school, etc.

Moving and at the same time enlisting your kids in a good public school is a pain, if not impossible. Or you have to go private, which of course costs more.

The southern coastal area's stay quite warm in winter, but it's still winter (rain, wind, cold). 50 km inland, and Spain gets REALLY cold in winter, and the houses are not designed for this.

If you're considering moving to Spain coastal areas: don't move there between may and september. It will be impossible to find a long-term appartment (have to wait for September/Oktober for those to become available again).
I know two software developers from the states that live there. And they love it. Clients are US based.
 

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Italians dream of going to live in florida or california or somewhere in the states.

Why does an American dream of living in Tuscany? (I know that the Tuscan is beautiful don't get me wrong)
Grass is always greener on the other side. Italy is a completely different way of life than the US. It’s whatever the heart hungers for.
 

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