Nootropics (Brain drugs!)

[TropicalGuy]

Could you elaborate on the effects and/or positive & negatives in your usage?

The bullet proof executive has some good write-ups on it.

Modaf is relatively subtle compared with adderral and stimulants-- it doesn't crack you out. It's really clean. If you have a big task-- like write an essay-- and you have a clear vision on how to get it done, and you pop 100-200MG, you'll find nothing special occurrs except the chances of you clicking over to MJ's forum or Facebook dramatically go down. You find youself looking up after 2 hours having worked.

I've heard reports of it keeping people up for hours so probably best not to take it at night.

Side effects I've heard are mild headache and mild crabbyness. You don't really want to chat it up with others you want to work!!!

It's relatively easy to get your hands on (compared with stimulants), it's non-addictive, and does the trick. More powerful than supplementy stuff like fish oil, piractam, etc.

D

 

[Halffull]

Talk to someone certified to answer those questions, brosience isn't exactly something to bet your mental health on

Neither is the clusterfuck that is modern establishment medical care. Combine doctor's opinions with your own research and self-experimentation.

 

[andviv]

What do I need to pair it with? Right now I am thinking Piracetam, Provigil, and my normal Multi Vitamin, Vitamin C, and Fruits and Vegetables vitamins, but what else? Cholin, Vitamin D, Fish Oil?

Reading this I recalled this video, it may provide some answers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KLjgBLwH3Wc

 

[Mike39]

I am considering taking modafinil or other nootropics. Because I'm so F*cking sick of my illness. I have extreme memory loss. Do you think nootropics could help?

Talk to someone certified to answer those questions, brosience isn't exactly something to bet your mental health on

 

[Bruce]

There's special forums for nootropics. But I wouldn't suggest playing with this kind of stuff though, never know the side effects and risks.

Most important asset is your health, I would never risk that just to do better in school/etc.

 

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[Vic]

I use Piracetam a lot, but, not every single day. It's hard to explain how it works, it's obviously not like in the movie Limitless, however, I notice increased concentration, thinking quicker on my feet, and more confidence all around. It helps to find answers that would otherwise be at the tip of your tongue. Memories that may have been forgotten about could also surface. When I listen to music, I become more aware of it-not sure how to explain it, it's just more enjoyable. It definitely adds a pep to my step.

Piracetam does not give you a buzz of any kind, its effects are subtle, there is no racing heart. It is not a magic bullet, but simply something in addition to caffeine, at least for me. I take a half teaspoon three times a day when I use it.

It has been studied for decades and is very safe. So I'm not worried about any adverse effects.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

PS. I'm very interested in trying modafinil (provigil's generic), however, it's prescription only and very pricey. Apparently they give it to military pilots so they can fly sorties for 48-72 hours without sleep and not feel fatigue.

 

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[TropicalGuy]

You can get modalert (generic) @ MyModafinil.net.

I use Modafinil occasionally, but my regular stand-bys are coconut oil (2 tblspoons) and coffee!

D

 

[johnp]

This seems like it's for focus, right?

Caffeine does it for me. 16ounces of light rosted coffee combined with trance music at 6am and I'm set for the next 6-12 hours.

 

[Halffull]

I've been playing around with using nicotine and aniracetam to aid in habit formation... some really interesting possibilities.

 

[InLikeFlint]

Piracetam is a very popular nootropic that was talked about quite a bit on supplement forums I used to frequent. I've yet to try it but the reviews seem favorable.

I read an interesting article earlier today about a man who talked about his use of Provigil, and he supplemented it with Piracetam. From the way he talked he seemed about 75ish percent confident about Provigil, but he seemed 95+ percent sure about Piracetam and suggested that if you are new to nootropics to try Piracetam first.

 

[Hong King Kong]

Back in college I had to take an Econometrics course which I found incredibly difficult. So I hired a tutor... after failing the midterm my tutor said "It's going to be hard for you to pass this course."

So I fired him and started experimenting with adderall, ritalin, and dexedrine. From personal experience I think Dexedrine is by far the best brain drug out of the 3. Made me focus on whatever I needed to for the whole day, felt no jittery feeling, no problem sleeping. Only side effect was slight loss in appetite and it made me really horny. Helped me stay hard in bed for an hour.

I ended up with a A- in the course, getting only 1 question wrong on the final... oh how I wish I still had my supply of Dexedrine.

 

[awkwardgenius]

Wow...this thread got a lot of traction while I was away! Here's more resources for folks interested in researching (which I strongly recommend...this is your brain you're playing with!).

Nootropics

Nootropic Stacks - LONGECITY

BrainMeta.com Forum -> Cognitive Enhancers

http://www.erowid.org/smarts/



Most nootropics have extremely low toxicity, are non-addictive, and actually act to protect the brain from damage (such as from neurodegenerative diseases). Most of the research on these is based around treatments for Alzheimer's, dementia, and the like...but many of them can not only help a diseased brain function normally, but help a healthy brain function better!

There's a lot of bro-science and self-experimentation going on, but the risk is relatively low if you're halfway careful. I know I'll be experimenting with a lot of these over the coming months, so I'll be sure to report back my findings. This is my first foray into this area, so I'm excited to see what's possible.

 

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[awkwardgenius]

Just got my first order of Noopept. Came quicker than I thought! Took 20mg with some Vitamin C (since I'm fighting off a cold), acetyl l-carnitine, fish oil for Omega 3s, all taken with a big glass of green tea for caffeine and l-theanine.

I'll report my results, but i don't expect too much since it's my first dose, and I've heard reports that the effects are cumulative...also, the order I got today was in capsules, and the most effective administration is sublingual, so I don't think I'll get the best results from swallowing them.

 

[Likwid24]

Reading this I recalled this video, it may provide some answers.

TEDxIowaCity - Dr. Terry Wahls - Minding Your Mitochondria - YouTube

Watching this video now. Just got started on Paleo and I feel more healthy and focused than ever. Do you mind if I repost this in my Paleo thread?

 

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[Fotis]

For ADD, the best solution was Kratom. Don't let the war against it turn you off. It's safe and 100% legit. You have to research the type of kratom you're gonna buy (I invest in Red Thai Maeng Da) but it's totally worth it. Modafinil made my heart race, but kratom is sooo much better.

Only two drawbacks? It might be banned from some countries and it's easy to build tolerance to it. Other than that, you should at least check it out.

 

[Fotis]

I have wanted to try that, but was put off by the amount of varieties. Where do you get yours?

Also how many times a week do you use; and how long did it take to build up an immunity?

I live in Greece, so I get it here:

Buy Kratom? Best Prices for Quality Kratom

If they shipped here, I'd buy from:

Happy Hippo Herbals

The owner of Happy Hippo, Chris Deoudes, is the guy who convinced me to try Kratom. I suggest checking out his Kratom series (careful though, the following site is NSFW)

Kratom Effects - What to Expect (All About Kratom Part III)

As for immunity/tolerance, according to Chris, if you rotate types of Kratom every day, you'll be fine. I suggest printing out and reading his series, and then, decide on a stack based on your individual needs.

 

[Roli]

I live in Greece, so I get it here:

Buy Kratom? Best Prices for Quality Kratom

If they shipped here, I'd buy from:

Happy Hippo Herbals

The owner of Happy Hippo, Chris Deoudes, is the guy who convinced me to try Kratom. I suggest checking out his Kratom series (careful though, the following site is NSFW)

Kratom Effects - What to Expect (All About Kratom Part III)

As for immunity/tolerance, according to Chris, if you rotate types of Kratom every day, you'll be fine. I suggest printing out and reading his series, and then, decide on a stack based on your individual needs.

Much obliged!

 

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[awkwardgenius]

Anyone here using them?

Provigil: The Secret Success Drug? - YouTube

Not specifically Provigil, but anyone else experimenting with performance-enhancing supplements?

Nootropic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

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[InLikeFlint]

This looks awesome...is it illegal? I mean obviously it's prescription only, but what are the consequences?

This reminds me of adderall, but better. They say its for sleeping troubles? I suffered an extreme concussion a few months ago, missed 2.5 months of school, and was prescribed melatonin and ambient for sleep...I wonder if something like this would be an option for me? I wouldn't say I have terrible sleeping troubles, but I am not normally tired until like 2,3,4 in the morning...I guess that's a problem and could be considered "irregular". What do you guys think about my situation?

Edit:

Does the guy in the video have a prescription, or is he getting it under the table?

 

[InMotion]

I would personally never use a drug that has been on the market for less than 5 years, unless it is a life or death situation. The drugs and devices you see on the law firm commercials all the time....I think that's what those are lol. In short, if its marketed as a dietary supplement I would use caution.



Interesting topic nonetheless.

 

[av1atic]

Piracetam is a very popular nootropic that was talked about quite a bit on supplement forums I used to frequent. I've yet to try it but the reviews seem favorable.

 

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[GuestUser8117]

The member Lights recommended me piracetam some time ago. We don't have access to piracetam in Canada. But come on, drugs can F*ck your brain man. I'm sure you can have permanent brain damage.

 

[The-J]

You can do it and document your results so I don't have to. I'm not willing to put my body at risk like that.

 

[supermannpc]

Reminds me of the movie limitless.

If anyone is going to try it please document and share the results

 

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[InLikeFlint]

You can do it and document your results so I don't have to. I'm not willing to put my body at risk like that.

If you paid me to try it for you....

 

[ambition21]

PS. I'm very interested in trying modafinil (provigil's generic), however, it's prescription only and very pricey. Apparently they give it to military pilots so they can fly sorties for 48-72 hours without sleep and not feel fatigue.

1. Isn't Piracetam prescription only as well? It definitely seems that way after looking for places to buy online.

2. Are there any trustworthy sites you can recommend to buy from?

3. Why do you take it in powder over pill form? Is it cheaper?

 

[InLikeFlint]

I use Piracetam a lot, but, not every single day. It's hard to explain how it works, it's obviously not like in the movie Limitless, however, I notice increased concentration, thinking quicker on my feet, and more confidence all around. It helps to find answers that would otherwise be at the tip of your tongue. Memories that may have been forgotten about could also surface. When I listen to music, I become more aware of it-not sure how to explain it, it's just more enjoyable. It definitely adds a pep to my step.

Piracetam does not give you a buzz of any kind, its effects are subtle, there is no racing heart. It is not a magic bullet, but simply something in addition to caffeine, at least for me. I take a half teaspoon three times a day when I use it.

It has been studied for decades and is very safe. So I'm not worried about any adverse effects.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

PS. I'm very interested in trying modafinil (provigil's generic), however, it's prescription only and very pricey. Apparently they give it to military pilots so they can fly sorties for 48-72 hours without sleep and not feel fatigue.

How do you get your Piracetem? Do you think that taking it daily would cause problems you are avoiding by not using it daily?

Also, there are plenty of sites around that sell Modafinil off prescription for something like 3-4$ per pill...are you worried they aren't legit?

Just curious, from your experience using it...do you think that using it for school/studying/typing papers/working out/business stuff would be a good use? In other words would I get a positive effect from using it for those activities?

I also might try Modafinil once I read more reviews and do some more research on it

 

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[InLikeFlint]

You can get modalert (generic) @ MyModafinil.net.

I use Modafinil occasionally, but my regular stand-bys are coconut oil (2 tblspoons) and coffee!

D

Could you elaborate on the effects and/or positive & negatives in your usage?

 

[TropicalGuy]

Agreed. Stuff is rocket fuel. For those of you who don't know-- it's basically prescription cocaine. It's really addictive and hard to get (I've round). But yeah... great stuff. STAY AWAY!!!

I ended up with a A- in the course, getting only 1 question wrong on the final... oh how I wish I still had my supply of Dexedrine.

 

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[InLikeFlint]

Thanks for the reply Tropic! I think it could really help with my studies, and the sleep could be a bonus, I stay up for 2 days straight, in that time do the next nights homework, and then sleep from 11 to 9 the 3rd night to catch up on sleep. The focus would be the biggest factors for me, I'm really a smart kid, I just need motivation to get down to it!