"Most" Navy Seals are like that.
I've known a few.
I've known a few.
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I think that you're wrong. They are just rare and even more rare to spot.Sadly my conclusion is no.
The reason being is that business is so scary to most people, or so silver spooned to them, that they chump out early on in the game. Picking one metric or another to judge themselves by.
A true legend in MY VIEW is original, and not a d#ck.
... They don't exist. People cheese out way too soon.
HOW SAD right?
Seriously, I wept.
They are just rare and even more rare to spot.
but like someone else said, they are rare to spot
I don't think I'm wrong, but I believe they are POSSIBLE
And I agree that, its just as tricky to spot as it is to find.
The reason, I say "no" as a definitive conclusion, is that I feel the field in being compared to other creative fields, has a much more volatile foundation, which makes it a LOT harder for Legends to be truly worth that name.
... For me, its a similar question to, does true love exist?
People can romanticise and collect their own point of view, but that view is always going to be biased by a persons hopes and ambitions, rather than the sheer integrity the thing on its own merit.
Its tough, to truly admit that there are no businessmen/women I would idolise at 100%. However, I think that in the pursuit of your own originality, and in the process of deciding how high to set the bar for yourself, you should always try to go higher than what you see out there. You should strive for your best.
Do I believe there are people that raise the bar over the general consensus?
I do.
But I still only would idolise them at say 30% of the capacity of what I would consider a true Legend.
I think its because business EXCLUDES certain practices that raise the bar.
I think business requires higher personal skills than most entreprenuers have
Higher empathy
Higher awareness regarding the climate your actions create
A broader definition of success
A broader definition of business (what is and isn't included)
A stronger tolerance level for financial pain
A stronger hold on your own emotions
I think we can be so much more.
I don't mean to sound pessimistic, infact the opposite
I mean to be realistic
And sweep aside the Narcissism, Attention seeking, Self glorification, and cut to the chase.
People, do, cop out... Eventually.
And I did, find that very traumatic.
Much like love. Most people are selfish. Or underdeveloped.
It is NOT THEIR FAULT and it does not mean they don't have a good life and a great HOLD on business (people do certainly enjoy business and do good things with it that are admirable)
But true "legends" per se.
Its LESS encouraged.
- customers don't ask you to be better
- you don't have an audience
- you are not expressing something or judging how others feel deeply
The most you get is
- diligence for customers
- achieving for self and friends
- looking into how people like and buy certain things
You get very SKILLED at that.
But those things, are not truly legendary, but rather necessary.
And to inflate that skill or to idolise it, imo does you a disservice because you really can stand for more than the minimum.
Unfortunately, guys like Ford, Gates, Buffet etc
I'm like...
Meh
Ford pollutes the planet, cr#pped on workers, a total narcissist - But excellent execution
Gates, is an underhanded kinda guy, likes to win, highly selfish/self centered (cr#p empathy) - But did good because, he created the business behind a pretty decent and widely used operating system (and he does a lot of charity work and will pass on most of his money when he goes, so he isn't a horder)
Buffet, propogates this almost patronising view of wealth, and your place in it - But he's an open guy, pleasant
They are very much imo, flawed.
Most people you could ever pick are.
And, I remind myself of that every day
You can't get by, thinking you can just COPY someone else and be called a good man.
To me, you have to push that envelope.
And you have to keep pushing it.
And most people in business (if not all)
Stop pushing, or never push in the places that would make them a TRUE legend.
Now, I have a "high" standard, but thats my standard, and I'm darn entitled to it.
So, I don't feel I'm wrong at all.
I do however think, one has to be optimistic about the people we do have, but just be AWARE, that business is not a righteous crusade to pretty much anyone, after they hit the grindstone.
There is always something lost.
And I think business, while nothing like the badguy portrayed in movies.
Is not as good as it could be, because it has a blindspot to the creative, the emotional, and the deservedness of others.
DO I DESERVE MONEY BECAUSE I AM SKILLED AT THE PURSUIT OF IT?
No...
I do not deserve money MORE than a beautiful pianist, or a person that goes around the globe helping people out.
AND our systems for getting money where it needs to be IS generally clogged and stuck in the area it is generated.
Our system is not perfect, and I think that most people just GIVE IN to one extreme view or another in the face of that truth.
THUSLY, no true legends, just ADVOCATES, or very skilled or accomplished people in business.
Well... who is even looking?
THAT is the real shocker...
Apathy from the general populus really is what disincentivises, truly legendary acts, because business is seen as bland, emotionless, and just a necessity.
Its a shame, but business doesn't promote, THAT particular and rare side, so I think, any would be legends are just put off the scent, and become good businessmen and happy with their job as an entreprenuer.
This explosive legend title.
Its a vanity, in a world where, prices are paid for real.
The room for imagination is slimmer in business than other fields (or is percieved that way)
So unfortunately, legends are not just hard to spot or recognise (though that would be the case if they are or were out there) they are harder to encourage to exist.
Its a tough climate, and all too often that climate is an excuse for people to out their inner malice, in some form or another.
And any Legends die out with their choice to quickly progress, over mire themselves in the pains and concerns, business has tied to it.
IS YODA OUT THERE?
Well, sure its possible, but I will say NO.
You have to define what that is for yourself, and do your best to not be petty, and that is fn hard in business. Very very very hard.
Yoda if he exists, will change lives, not linger around to inspire us foot soldiers.
If we wanna be good people, its on us.
Having a lot of $ doesn't make you different. Just makes who you are more of.
You don't have to ball out at the club with 200 bottles just because you made some money.
Money is freedom to do whatever the F*ck you want. To have the OPTION to ball out if you want.
To have the OPTION to disappear to South Africa for a few months.
The feeling of "I can walk out of here, do whatever I want, and nobody can stop me."
If that is hang out with good people, hold the door for, or whatever, then do it.
Absolutely you'll get people that are well off that don't live a celebrity lifestyle.
Probably a bunch of people here on the FL that are free to do whatever they want and choose not to be the flashiest person in the room.
It's all upto you.
P.s. your time would be better spent working on becoming that person than asking
Yeah they have a thing for fake Jordans over there.
Sadly my conclusion is no.
The reason being is that business is so scary to most people, or so silver spooned to them, that they chump out early on in the game. Picking one metric or another to judge themselves by.
A true legend in MY VIEW is original, and not a d#ck.
... They don't exist. People cheese out way too soon.
HOW SAD right?
Seriously, I wept.
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