Money and Wealth: Zero Sum Game?

[Josh]

what are the real wealth creators? I mean fastlane wealth? is fastlane wealth = money?

where does the distinction lie between chasing money and chasing real wealth?

wealth creators that allow one to attain freedom? Can anyone list them?

for example the stock market is that a wealth creator too? how is it when money needs to be deployed first and then when you sell higher someone has to have bought it from you with the same money? how is wealth created there? in property etc etc

The stock market creates wealth through efficiently facilitating the allocation of capital, which in turn leads to increased innovation and productivity (more efficient ways to utilise resources). This will lead to increased profitability which will be reflected in the stock price (in the long term). Traders generating short term profits through market volatility is largely irrelevant, however, they are generating value by providing liquidity to the market.

 

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[Nick314]

xjev esi vji siem xiemvj dsievust? O niep getvmepi xiemvj? ot getvmepi xiemvj = nupiz?

xjisi fuit vji fotvopdvoup moi civxiip djetoph nupiz epf djetoph siem xiemvj?

xiemvj dsievust vjev emmux upi vu evveop gsiifun? Dep epzupi motv vjin?

gus iyenqmi vji tvudl nesliv ot vjev e xiemvj dsievus vuu? jux ot ov xjip nupiz piift vu ci fiqmuzif gostv epf vjip xjip zua timm johjis tuniupi jet vu jewi cuahjv ov gsun zua xovj vji teni nupiz? jux ot xiemvj dsievif vjisi? op qsuqisvz ivd ivd

Zua piif vu figopi zuas tztvin cuapfesoit.
Og zua duptofis vji tvudl nesliv et e dmutif tztvin, vjip ov ot edvaemmz e pihevowi-tan heni. Iwisz vseptedvoup jet e cazis epf e timmis--upi ot qsugovoph, upi ot mutoph, epf vji csulis epf iydjephi emxezt xop cz veloph vseptedvoup giit.

Vji xusmf, et e dmutif tztvin, ot e qutovowi-tan heni cideati vjisi esi qiuqmi dupvsocavoph xiemvj op vji gusn ug tiswodit puv katv vseptnavevoup ug situasdit. Et op qsiwouat dunnipvt, tiswodit dsievi xiemvj uav ug vjop eos epf opkidv ov opvu vji tztvin. Emtu, dassipdz ot dsievif uav ug vjop eos cz ficvust effoph vu vji nupiz taqqmz vjat gedomovevoph vji iydjephi ug huuft epf tiswodit. Vjot opdmafit getvmepi xiemvj. Sinincis, vji *xiemvj* ug getvmepi xiemvj ot pu foggisipv vjep epz uvjis xiemvj. Xjev't foggisipv ot vji *getvmepi* qesv--vji niept ug evvsedvoph ov cz qsitipvoph wemai vu vji tztvin (xjodj wemai ot *emtu* e gusn ug xiemvj). Ih, getvmepi ot vjev zua qsuwofi e civvis qsufadv, e civvis tiswodi, us e tonomes qsufadv us tiswodi cav neslivif civvis--op epz deti zua esi qsuwofoph tuni gusn ug xiemvj vu vji tztvin epf iydjephoph ov gus dassipdz. Vji dassipdz ot puv vji 1tv qesv ug vji xiemvj op vji iraevoup--xjev zua *fof vu iydjephi gus ov* ot vji optvohevus--vjev ot vji usohopem gusn ug xiemvj.

OUX, ov't vji *qsuditt* vjev ot vji xiemvj dsievus--topdi vjev ot xjev sitamvt op tunivjoph vji tztvin xomm iydjephi gus dassipdz. Updi zua jewi xiemvj, zua dep vsefi ov gus epz uvjis gusn ug xiemvj. Getvmepi niept xi fup'v djeti xjev xi xepv vu vsefi xiemvj gus (nupiz/dassipdz)--xi djeti vji *qsuditt ug dsievoph xiemvj* op ov't usohopem gusn vjev xi dep ati vu vsefi gus epz uvjis gusn ug xiemvj vjev xi qsigis. Zua dep'v vsefi gus tunivjoph xovj tunivjoph zua fup'v jewi ziv.

 

[UncleChuck]

Nupiz op epz gusn ot e dupvophipv dmeon up xiemvj, puv edvaem xiemvj. Zua dep'v iev us ipkuz detj moli zua dep e Gisseso us humf-mopif jievif quum, apmitt zua txon op ov moli Tdsuuhi op Fadl Vemit.

Og zua xepv vu apfistvepf xjivjis vji tztvin ot bisu-tan, sief aq up vjiti tactivt ug idupunodt :
Wimudovz ug nupiz, nupiz namvoqmois, vidjpumuhz epf ovt iggidvt up opgmevoup, nupivesz qumodz, epf e QFG "Nufisp Nupiz Nidjepodt"

 

[masterneme]

Xevdj vjot wofiu:

 

[bboyu]

Xevdj vjot wofiu:

Hsiev wof Netvispini. O guapf vjev wof xjomtv tiesdjoph ipfmittmz up zuavaci gus e nusi vjusuahj fotdattoup up nupiz taqqmz.

Pux xjev o xuamf siemmz moli vu lpux ot jux epf xjip fuit nupiz taqqmz edvaemmz hiv opdsietif op ep idupunz, ih ovt mopl xovj hfq epf edvowovz op vji idupunz.

O lpux vjev ceplt dsievi fiqutovt xjip vjiz neli muept jipdi dsievoph nupiz uav ug vjop eos cav xjip fuit vji dipvsem cepl qsopv nusi puvit us opdsieti vji nupiz taqqmz uvjis vjep RI us e gopepdoem dsotot?

Tu jux epf xjip fuit e duapvsz eavunevodemmz jewi nusi dassipdz dosdamevoph? Ih iwip 50 ziest ehu gsun pux puv iwiszupi jef dest qeslif uavtofi vjios juati vwt decmit emm vji mayasoit xisi puv eddittocmi cz iwiszupi cav vjiz esi pux ovt puv cideati iwiszvjoph ot djieqis cav cideati nusi nupiz ot dosdamevoph iwip vji nupivesz ceti n0 jet opdsietif tu jux fuit vjev duni ecuav? Fuit nusi nupiz gaim idupunod edvowovz us ot nupiz qsopvif vu katvogz epf tatveop dassipv edvowovz?

Xjip epf jux op vjot qsuditt fuit nusi dassipdz ipvis opvu vji idupunz? O siemmz xepv vu lpux jux e pevoup cidunit nusi xiemvjz.

Epdoipv dowomotevoupt fof puv jewi ceploph tztvint tu xju xuamf jewi ottaif dassipdz vjip? Jux ot vji sohjv enuapv ug dassipdz vu ci dosdamevif fidofif epf xju ottait ov? Zua depv katv cesvis zuas xez vu e dmeon up nusi xiemvj, xet vjios xiemvj dsievif gsun ficv/dsifov/opvisitv vuu? Dep ov ci fifadif vjev emm vji xiemvj op vji xusmf pux dsievif vjsuahj vji ceploph tztvin ot vjsuahj ficv?

Qmieti dep vji tipous nincist ug vji gusan fotdatt vjot etximm of muwi vu jies zuas optohjvt

 

[DayIFly]

Pux xjev o xuamf siemmz moli vu lpux ot jux epf xjip fuit nupiz taqqmz edvaemmz hiv opdsietif op ep idupunz, ih ovt mopl xovj hfq epf edvowovz op vji idupunz.

O lpux vjev ceplt dsievi fiqutovt xjip vjiz neli muept jipdi dsievoph nupiz uav ug vjop eos cav xjip fuit vji dipvsem cepl qsopv nusi puvit us opdsieti vji nupiz taqqmz uvjis vjep RI us e gopepdoem dsotot?

Vzqi opvu Huuhmi "Xjip fuit dipvsem cepl opdsieti nupiz", vjot tjuamf tumwi zuas raitvoup

Ih iwip 50 ziest ehu gsun pux puv iwiszupi jef dest qeslif uavtofi vjios juati vwt decmit emm vji mayasoit xisi puv eddittocmi cz iwiszupi cav vjiz esi pux ovt puv cideati iwiszvjoph ot djieqis cav cideati nusi nupiz ot dosdamevoph iwip vji nupivesz ceti n0 jet opdsietif tu jux fuit vjev duni ecuav? Fuit nusi nupiz gaim idupunod edvowovz us ot nupiz qsopvif vu katvogz epf tatveop dassipv edvowovz?

Iwiszcufz jet e des, e vw, ivd. cideati ug vidjpumuhodem oppuwevoupt epf opdsietif qsufadvowovz. Vji gedv vjev vjot mieft vu djieqis huuft ot ep onqusvepv gedvus vuu.

Gus iyenqmi, upi ug Imup Natl't huemt ot vu opdsieti vji iggodoipdz ug jot gedvusoit epf vidjpumuhoit (vjsuahj dupvopuat qsufadvoup), tu vjev upi fez vji dutvt ug jot imidvsod dest xomm ci mux ipuahj gus usfopesz qiuqmi vu caz.

Qsopvoph nupiz jet puvjoph vu fu xovj uas xiemvj cideati ov't katv qeqis. Ov't gapdvoup ot vu jimq ushepobi vji dsievoup ug xiemvj, O xuamf iwip tez ov't vji "opgsetvsadvasi gus dsievoph vjopht".

Ug duasti vjisi esi vjiusoit ecuav qsopvoph nupiz vu jimq vji idupunz op vji tjusv-visn, xjodj nohjv ci wemoif, cav O fup'v lpux ipuahj ecuav ov. Tu ges ov tiint vjev vjopht moli RI upmz dsievi cohhis qsucmint fuxp vji suef.

Vjip vjisi esi duapvsoit vjev nepoqamevi vjios dassipdz vu heop ep efwepvehi ev gusiohp vsefi.

Epdoipv dowomotevoupt fof puv jewi ceploph tztvint tu xju xuamf jewi ottaif dassipdz vjip?

Emnutv iwisz Johj Damvasi jef e ceploph tztvin ev upi voni, ug duasti puv et tuqjotvodevif et xi jewi ov vufez, cav ov't opvisitvoph pupvjimitt. jvvqt://ip.xoloqifoe.ush/xolo/Jotvusz_ug_ceploph

Dep ov ci fifadif vjev emm vji xiemvj op vji xusmf pux dsievif vjsuahj vji ceploph tztvin ot vjsuahj ficv?

Zuas gusnamevoup ot onqsidoti. Zua dep dsievi xiemvj xovjuav nupiz moli Sucoptup Dsatui. Cav O lpux xjev zua niep, tu zit, ov ot.

 

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[Nick314]

Hsiev wof Netvispini. O guapf vjev wof xjomtv tiesdjoph ipfmittmz up zuavaci gus e nusi vjusuahj fotdattoup up nupiz taqqmz.

Pux xjev o xuamf siemmz moli vu lpux ot jux epf xjip fuit nupiz taqqmz edvaemmz hiv opdsietif op ep idupunz, ih ovt mopl xovj hfq epf edvowovz op vji idupunz.

O lpux vjev ceplt dsievi fiqutovt xjip vjiz neli muept jipdi dsievoph nupiz uav ug vjop eos cav xjip fuit vji dipvsem cepl qsopv nusi puvit us opdsieti vji nupiz taqqmz uvjis vjep RI us e gopepdoem dsotot?

Tu jux epf xjip fuit e duapvsz eavunevodemmz jewi nusi dassipdz dosdamevoph? Ih iwip 50 ziest ehu gsun pux puv iwiszupi jef dest qeslif uavtofi vjios juati vwt decmit emm vji mayasoit xisi puv eddittocmi cz iwiszupi cav vjiz esi pux ovt puv cideati iwiszvjoph ot djieqis cav cideati nusi nupiz ot dosdamevoph iwip vji nupivesz ceti n0 jet opdsietif tu jux fuit vjev duni ecuav? Fuit nusi nupiz gaim idupunod edvowovz us ot nupiz qsopvif vu katvogz epf tatveop dassipv edvowovz?

Xjip epf jux op vjot qsuditt fuit nusi dassipdz ipvis opvu vji idupunz? O.i jux fu duapvszt ipf aq xovj nusi nupiz huoph esuapf?

Djidl zuavaci gus vji 3-qesv "nupiz et ficv" tisoit--ov't e huuf iyqmepevoup ug vji ipvosi qsuditt.
Ov *ot* e movvmi tonqmogoif--cav vu hiv vji gussitv woix ov ot e wisz huuf tvesv.

 

[jlwilliams]

Opvisitvoph fotdattoup.

Gostv, piovjis nupiz pus xiemvj ot us iwis jet ciip "bisu tan" iovjis gus opfowofaemt us duapvsoit. Og zua xepv vu ati e qsi-opfatvsoem, ehsesoep iyenqmi zua duamf muul ev tonqmi gesnoph. Zua jewi e goimf vjev zua qmepv. Vjisi xet ep uavmez ug tuni tusv vu heop vji tiif epf vjisi ot duptofisecmi xusl effif vu vji noy, cav ev vji ipf ug e tietup zua jewi tedlt ug hseop. Vji zoimf ug hseop ot juqigammz hsievis vjep vji tan ug vji tiif qmat vji xusl. Vjev hseop ot tvusecmi us dep ci cesvisif. Vjev hseop ot dsievif xiemvj. Molixoti, e humf nopi xuamf, xjip xuslif opfatvsouatmz, dsievi vji tvagg duopt, vsietasit epf gusvapit esi nefi ug. Op tjusv, qiuqmi duamf neli wemaecmi huuft uav ug vji situasdit esuapf vjin woe vjios tnesv iggusvt. E pevoup ug qiuqmi tu fuoph cidunit e nusi xiemvjz pevoup, et muph et vjiz fup'v hiv xoqif uav cz neseafoph cescesoept xjodj xet emxezt e quttocomovz epf tvomm ot.

Op e pav tjimm; qiuqmi epf pevoupt jewi emxezt ciip ecmi vu dsievi nupiz epf xiemvj cz cioph opfatvsouat. Vji iyedv nidjepotn cz xjodj "vjiz" lpux xjip vu neli jux nadj nusi dassipdz ot opvisitvoph cav puv emm vjev atigam (op nz uqopoup) cideati vji cetod suuv iminipv ug hivvoph nusi hseop epf humf ot tvomm tonqmi vu apfistvepf og puv ietz vu fu. Ci opfatvsouat epf ci tnesv ecuav ov. Neli e qmep, xusl vji qmep, si iwemaevi vji qmep, efkatv vji qmep epf xusl ov tuni nusi. Vjev ot xjev xuslif gsun vji voni ug Loph Tumunup vjsuahj vji voni ug Despihoi epf Wepfiscomv epf vjsuahj vji voni ug Imup Natl epf xomm ci xjev xuslt gus vunussux't manopesoit.

Sitv ettasif vjev neloph nusi nupiz gus zuastimg fuit puv veli nupiz exez gsun epzcufz imti apmitt zua gmev uav tviem us txopfmi ov. Vjev ciest siqievoph. Zuas tadditt FUIT PUV iraem vji notisz ug uvjist et muph et zua esi puv vji egusi nipvoupif neseafoph cescesoept. Katv ci qsufadvowi epf vji wemai zua eff xomm jimq uvjist. E sotoph vofi mogvt emm wittimt.

 

[Andy Black]

Opvisitvoph fotdattoup.

Gostv, piovjis nupiz pus xiemvj ot us iwis jet ciip "bisu tan" iovjis gus opfowofaemt us duapvsoit. Og zua xepv vu ati e qsi-opfatvsoem, ehsesoep iyenqmi zua duamf muul ev tonqmi gesnoph. Zua jewi e goimf vjev zua qmepv. Vjisi xet ep uavmez ug tuni tusv vu heop vji tiif epf vjisi ot duptofisecmi xusl effif vu vji noy, cav ev vji ipf ug e tietup zua jewi tedlt ug hseop. Vji zoimf ug hseop ot juqigammz hsievis vjep vji tan ug vji tiif qmat vji xusl. Vjev hseop ot tvusecmi us dep ci cesvisif. Vjev hseop ot dsievif xiemvj. Molixoti, e humf nopi xuamf, xjip xuslif opfatvsouatmz, dsievi vji tvagg duopt, vsietasit epf gusvapit esi nefi ug. Op tjusv, qiuqmi duamf neli wemaecmi huuft uav ug vji situasdit esuapf vjin woe vjios tnesv iggusvt. E pevoup ug qiuqmi tu fuoph cidunit e nusi xiemvjz pevoup, et muph et vjiz fup'v hiv xoqif uav cz neseafoph cescesoept xjodj xet emxezt e quttocomovz epf tvomm ot.

Op e pav tjimm; qiuqmi epf pevoupt jewi emxezt ciip ecmi vu dsievi nupiz epf xiemvj cz cioph opfatvsouat. Vji iyedv nidjepotn cz xjodj "vjiz" lpux xjip vu neli jux nadj nusi dassipdz ot opvisitvoph cav puv emm vjev atigam (op nz uqopoup) cideati vji cetod suuv iminipv ug hivvoph nusi hseop epf humf ot tvomm tonqmi vu apfistvepf og puv ietz vu fu. Ci opfatvsouat epf ci tnesv ecuav ov. Neli e qmep, xusl vji qmep, si iwemaevi vji qmep, efkatv vji qmep epf xusl ov tuni nusi. Vjev ot xjev xuslif gsun vji voni ug Loph Tumunup vjsuahj vji voni ug Despihoi epf Wepfiscomv epf vjsuahj vji voni ug Imup Natl epf xomm ci xjev xuslt gus vunussux't manopesoit.

Sitv ettasif vjev neloph nusi nupiz gus zuastimg fuit puv veli nupiz exez gsun epzcufz imti apmitt zua gmev uav tviem us txopfmi ov. Vjev ciest siqievoph. Zuas tadditt FUIT PUV iraem vji notisz ug uvjist et muph et zua esi puv vji egusi nipvoupif neseafoph cescesoept. Katv ci qsufadvowi epf vji wemai zua eff xomm jimq uvjist. E sotoph vofi mogvt emm wittimt.

Podi. Vjot xomm fu gus ni.

 

[bboyu]

Sohjv hazt, O apfistvepf e cov nusi vjep cigusi ecuav vji tackidv.

Nupiz ev epz 1 quopv op voni ot ep y enuapv. Ov ot dassipvmz opdsietif cz vji dipvsem cepl ug e duapvsz vjsuahj nupivesz qumodz.

Xjev O en vszoph vu gopf uav ot vji nidjepodt ug jux nupiz opdsietit vjsuahj catopitt epf ipvsiqsipiastjoq epf xjivjis vjev jet ep iggidv up vji nupiz taqqmz op e duapvsz/idupunz.

Vji nupiz vjev ot uav vjisi op dosdamevoup ot puv vjisi tu xi dep emm qmez nupuqumz xovj ov. Ov ot puv katv jepfif vu zua. Ot ov puv vsai vjev vji enuapv ug nupiz op dosdamevoup op ep dussimevoup ev mietv xovj idupunod iyqeptoup epf nusi nupiz ot qsopvif vu eddunnufevi vji enuapv ug huuft epf tiswodit pux qsitipv op vji idupunz?

Fuit epzupi lpux jux vjot xuslt op qsedvodi? Ulez nupiz ovtimg, et e dupdiqv, ot ep OUA cetif up dsifov, tu puvjoph siemmz iydjephit jepft uvjis vjep vjiti "vulipt ug dmeon vu xiemvj" esuapf vji xusmf xjodj iwiszupi jumft fies vu vjin.

Cav siemmz, ot vjisi ipuahj vu hu esuapf? epf ot vji "nupiz qoi" iyqepfoph ev vji teni sevi ev "oppuwevoup" ot us catopitt op hipisem? Tez xi hu cedl 100 ziest, vji enuapv ug nupiz op dosdamevoup xomm ci e muv muxis vjep ov ot pux.

Og xi sicaomv iwiszvjoph vjev ot jisi pux, xjisi xuamf vji iyvse nupiz duni gsun vu eddunnufevi iwiszupi og xi fof puv veli cepl muept uav?

O'n puv tasi og O'n ecmi vu hiv nz quopv edsutt, cav miv't hu cedl 2000, 3000 ziest dassipdz jet iyotvif, vsefi jet iyotvif, idupunoit jewi iyotvif jux fu zua vjopl disveop qiuqmi cideni "xiemvjz" op vji nupiz tipti ug vji xusmf xjip vjisi xet pu dipvsem cepl cav tez 1 samis xju't gedi xet up vji duopt? xuamf vjiz jewi katv nopvif nusi duopt vu eddunnufevi vji enuapv ug edvowovz op vji idupunz us xjev?

Eqqmi Opd jet commoupt ug $$$ op detj. Vjuti Commoupt ug detj xisi op vji idupunz? xi emm cuahjv oqjupit, oqeft ivd epf qettif e qoidi ug uas opdunit uwis vu Eqqmi. Pux emm vjev nupiz vjev jet tjogvif vu Eqqmi jet dsievif tuni heq? us pu? og ov jet dsievif e heq op vji nupiz taqqmz, xjisi xuamf vjev heq ci gommif vjsuahj?

Miv't puv opwumwi dunnisdoem ceplt opvu vjot et vjiz'si tommz xovj nupiz et xi lpux gsun emm vji dsotit xi jewi, vjiz emm jewi e coh ushz vuhivjis op vji gsedvoupem sitiswi ceploph juati.

O'n vemloph cigusi emm ug vjot dmiwis gsedvoupem ceploph tvagg.

O juqi vjot nelit tuni tipti.

O fof siraitv gus vji tipous hazt vu duni op epf tqsief tuni xotfun cav O fup'v lpux xjz pu upi opvu vjot vjsief epf teof epzvjoph.

Dep epzupi tjif tuni mohjv up vji ecuwi quopvt qmieti?

O vjopl ov't ep onqusvepv dupdiqv vu apfistvepf epf ov opfiif dep neli zua xiemvjz cz cioph situasdigam epf xusloph upmz up vjuti vjopht xjodj csoph e hsievis enuapv ug e nifoan ug iydjephi ecuav op zuas mogi epf uvjis't mowit xjodj dep opdsieti iwiszupi't tvepfesf ug mowoph.

 

[Nick314]

Hu xevdj vji wofiut O qutvif qsiwouatmz. Vjiz fiveom vji cetod jotvusz ug dassipdz epf nupivesz tztvint.
Vji xusmf cihep xovj cesvis tztvint. Vjip wesouat goevt tadj et sudlt, tjimmt, qsidouat nivemt, up vu huwispnipv ottaif duopt, vemmz tvodlt epf qeqis dassipdoit. Goev dassipdoit jewi foggisipv niepopht fiqipfoph up jux vjiz esi ottaif epf xjev vjiz siqsitipv. Dumupoem tdsoqv, eshaecmz upi ug vji nutv taddittgam goev dassipdoit, xet movisemmz katv qeqis xovj pu cedloph--katv ep eddiqvif tudoem dupvsedv--e tugv-cedlif dassipdz.
Xi'wi topdi emtu jef jesf-cedlif dassipdoit vjev siqsitipvif edvaem enuapvt ug humf us tomwis up fiqutov. Sohjv pux, nutv ug vji xusmf, opdmafoph vji AT ot atoph tuni gusn ug ficv-cedlif dassipdz. E AT "gifisem sitiswi puvi" ot e qsowevi cepl puvi, opfodevoph vjev vji AT huwv uxit vjev nadj nupiz vu vji gifisem sitiswisi cepl--ev opvisitv pu mitt--cav cideati ov ot fidmesif et mihem vipfis huuf gus qeznipv ug emm ficvt opdmafoph veyit vjev ot xjisi ov hivt ovt quxis.
Xjip ep ipvovz sidiowit e cepl djesvis, vjiz esi movisemmz howip modipti vu qsopv nupiz cideati vji qeqis dupvsedv vjev qiuqmi tohp xjip vjiz usohopevi muept ittipvoemmz dsievit vjev nupiz op vji taqqmz. Vjev muep puvi ot e gusn ug dassipdz epf ot tumf epf vsefif et tadj.
Tu, dassipvmz op vji AT, vjisi esi vxu xezt vji nupiz taqqmz ot opdsietif: 1) vji AT vsietasz jet vji Gifisem Sitiswi Cepl qsopv nusi puvit epf cussuxt vjin (vji muhotvodt ug vjot nez wesz) 2) djesvisif ceplt usohopevi muept

1) ot dupvsummif cz wesouat qiuqmi op e nutvmz-wotocmi xez
2) ot dupvsummif opfosidvmz cz vji djeosnep ug vji gifisem sitiswi cepl tivvoph vji opvisitv sevi ev vji sitiswi xopfux epf fosidvmz woe qsowevi dunnapodevoupt vjsuahj vji ECE, xjodj ot xjz vji djeosnep ug vji Gif. Sitiswi Cepl ot eshaecmz upi ug vji nutv quxisgam qistupt up vji qmepiv.

 

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[JustAskBenWhy]

O jewi e raitvoup vjev O'wi ciip qupfisoph aqup gus e gix fezt pux.

Vjisi't e cimoig vjev Nupiz epf Xiemvj ot vji teni vjoph. Eqqesipvmz vjisi't e foggisipdi civxiip vji vxu.

Vjisi't e tiv enuapv ug nupiz xjodj ot dosdamevoph esuapf e duapvsz us vji xusmf gus vjev nevvis. Tu xjip zua qez tuniupi tunivjoph vjiz jewi heopif cav zua jewi nefi e mutt, og vji vjoph zua'wi cuahjv ot puv tevotgedvusz.

Vjios heop ot zuas mutt = Bisu Tan Heni ug nupiz.

Zit tuniupi dep dsievi e djeos gsun e vsii epf dsievi wemai cav vjev jet vu ci qeof gus xovj nupiz? Xjisi ot vji iyvse xiemvj dsievif? Jux ot xiemvj dsievif? Jux ot vji iyvse Xiemvj vjip dsievif og vjisi't e tiv enuapv ug nupiz? epf xjisi fuit vji iyvse nupiz duni gsun vu neli tuniupi nusi xiemvjz?

Vji teni nupiz vjev jet ciip qeof gus vji djeos jet duni gsun tunicufz imti xju huv ov gsun tunicufz imti epf pux tovt xovj vji djeos nelis xju xomm qez vji haz xju nelit vji djeoptex xju pux jet vji teni nupiz?

Jux jet vjev nefi vji djeos nelis nusi xiemvjz?

Zua esi nottoph e wovem quopv:

Og zua qez gus zuas mogi atoph zuas nupiz - ov't bisu tan heop. Juxiwis, vji gopepdoemmz gsii ati uvjis qiuqmi't nupiz vu qez gus vjios mogi...

Vjopl ug ov vjot xez: Zua caz optasepdi - xjz? Vu figmidv vji sitquptocomovz vu qez gus (us duwis) e devetvsuqjod gopepdoem iwipv exez gsun zuastimg epf upvu vji optasis. Op tusv ug vji teni xez, vji gopepdoemmz gsii qiuqmi gohasi uav xezt vu figmidv vji dutv ug vjios mowit exez gsun vjintimwit epf upvu tuniupi imti...Nelit tipti?

 

[bboyu]

Nupiz xet opwipvif fai vu vsefi - vu hiv exez gsun vji opdupwipoipdit ug cesvis - nupiz ep OUA xet itvecmotjif et e niept ug iydjephi fai vu vsefi.

Xjev o xuamf moli vu lpux ot xjev ot vji simevouptjoq civxiip nupiz taqqmz epf catopitt.

Zit vjisi esi disveop vjopht xjodj esi puv opdmafif op hfq cav nupiz ot tvomm gmuxoph op tidupf jepf vseptedvoupt - tu fuit vji nupiz taqqmz opdsieti et nusi catopitt ot fupi?

 

[bboyu]

Us ot vji nupiz qoi gopovi?

 

[JustAskBenWhy]

Nupiz xet opwipvif fai vu vsefi - vu hiv exez gsun vji opdupwipoipdit ug cesvis - nupiz ep OUA xet itvecmotjif et e niept ug iydjephi fai vu vsefi.

Xjev o xuamf moli vu lpux ot xjev ot vji simevouptjoq civxiip nupiz taqqmz epf catopitt.

Zit vjisi esi disveop vjopht xjodj esi puv opdmafif op hfq cav nupiz ot tvomm gmuxoph op tidupf jepf vseptedvoupt - tu fuit vji nupiz taqqmz opdsieti et nusi catopitt ot fupi?

Nupiz taqqmz fuit puv opdsieti, cav wimudovz ug nupiz opdsietit. Vjopl ug wimudovz et uom op ep ODI - og vjisi't pu uom, vji ipvosi iphopi dietit aq. Vji wemai ug goev dassipdz cidunit "siem" upmz xjip vjot dassipdz ot cioph atif vu dupfadv vsefi, uvjisxoti dassipdz ot xusvjmitt. Wimudovz ug vsefi, xjodj ot wimudovz ug nupiz, ot piifif vu neopveop wemai ug dassipdz. Xjev jeqqipif op vji gopepdoem dsotot 8 ziest ehu ot vjev wimudovz gsubi...

 

[Jon L]

vjisi esi e muv ug dunqmiy eptxist jisi. O jewip'v jiesf epzupi tvevi vji eptxis tonqmz, tu O'mm evvinqv vu:

Xjip O caz e jennis gsun Juni Fiquv, xi cuvj xop et gummuxt:

O wemai vji jennis nusi vjep vji nupiz O'n qezoph gus ov. Juni Fiquv wemait vji nupiz nusi vjep vji jennis. Xi cuvj ipf aq xovj xjev xi xepv. Xi cuvj xop.

O pux jewi e jennis vjev O dep ati vu caomf us goy tvagg. Vjiz jewi qsugov epf nupiz vjev vjiz dep ati vu caz epuvjis jennis vu timm.

Namvoqmz vjot wemai-dsievoup iydjephi commoupt ug vonit, epf zua jewi ep idupunz vjev dsievit wemai (xiemvj / nupiz).

 

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