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Well, with this view. It's hard to like anything. If you don't like that you are alive, then oh well.Thank you all for the responses so far.
Here are some thoughts that are not in response to anyone in particular.
On Being Grateful for Life as a Gift
I don't understand the perspective of being grateful for what I am gifted when it isn't something I wanted or requested to begin with. I can give a man a steak, cooked to perfection. If he's vegan, it won't be a gift he wants to receive, even if I say, "but it's a gift, and it's free, so enjoy it!" the man will not enjoy it. Then you could say the man chooses not to enjoy it. He chooses to be vegan. Is the receiver ungrateful? Is the giver inconsiderate? And importantly, wouldn't everyone in this scenario have been better off if this interaction never took place?
The vegan person isn't enjoying the steak no matter what another person tells him about. In fact, the more the person says it's wagyu or it's from this farm, or it was prepared this way, the more the vegan will despise of it.
So if this is the case, nothing we tell you here is going to change your mind.
On Whether or Not Anything Matters
If we are all going to die, then I think nothing matters (with the caveat that this perspective assumes death is the *end* and that nothing can be experienced afterward)
Yes we are all going to die. Everyone on the forum today will not be around in 2120. Does that mean that everything we do from now until then is for nothing?
Well, it depends on you. You could work a job and retire and not interact with anyone or you could find the cure for cancer and you're life would have mattered to millions of people.
Well this makes no sense. So living forever would make life matter, but dying make it not matter?On Indefinite Existence as a Perpetual Hell
I tend to think indefinite life would be ideal;
If you worked and sat on the couch for 1000 years, how would your life matter more? I would think this would be the opposite. Imagine your current mindset, but you lived forever. That would be hell. You would try something and give up as soon as it was not fun. You would become not good at everything.
Honestly, I view this as either laziness of lack of motivation.If something ceases to be more satisfying than dissatisfying, then I cease the activity. If running starts to destroy my knees, I would stop running, but I would still pursue other exercises to maintain health and fitness. When a business idea doesn't seem satisfying, I switch ideas. Sometimes I come back to ideas later on. So it's not completely "pleasure in the moment." It's a calculation about the amount of satisfaction that continuing that activity is likely to generate vs the amount of dissatisfaction. It is also a calculation about how much I desire the overarching outcome of the pursuit (How badly do I want to be healthy/wealthy/masterful, etc.?).
If you started to hate running, you would stop. But you would use the excuse of your knees hurting to stop.
Inner motivation just doesn't work for some people.
Imagine if your goal was to make enough money to get a Ferrari. You start a business with the goal. The business becomes hard and not fun anymore. It's easy to tell yourself that you don't want the Ferrari so therefore you stop the business. But the real reason wasn't that you didn't want the Ferrari, it was because you didn't want to do the work you deemed not pleasurable. You still do want the Ferrari, you are just lying to yourself.
Not imagine if you had to make $250,000 to pay for a loved one's life saving surgery. Now the business becomes hard and not fun anymore. Would you be able to stop and move onto something else? Could you say to your loved one, "You know, my business just isn't fun anymore, good luck on paying for that surgery!"
I view life as living within a chunk of time. We get 50-100 years and I get to choose what I want to do within this time period. This world said, hey biophase, here's 1971 to 2071, do what you wish.
This is probably a poor car analogy. But imagine you go rent a car. The counter person says, here are the keys to that Ferrari. It's brand new, you have to for 30 days. After 30 days it will just explode.
So you could, drive the shit out of it. You could crash it to pieces on day 10. You could give kids a ride in it and make them happy or you could just never drive it and let it sit in your garage. It's all up to you.
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