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Hello...
I'm new to the forum and this is my first question.
I plan to invest $5,000 USD into things that increase over time and are not volatile such as cryptos.
I am already doing crypto trading for cash flow, along with other things.

I did my homework and I stumble upon ETFs: Explore Our ETFs
They say it's a very secure investment that will always go up. Has anyone invested in ETFs before?

If I buy $1k USD on Stocks, which ones should I choose?
And about Index, I don't know anything.

What would you suggest to put that money to work in passive income?
Thank you FastLaners.
 

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What’s your stake in that site you’re posting? Because based on your crypto post me thinks you have one...
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Wait,
I understand, You think I am doing an affiliate promotion? No. I did read the rules.
Please check the URL, it doesn't have any UTM or code. Before posting please make sure of checking sources.

The first response to my first questions was toxic.
 
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Then I should invest in ads and landing pages to improve my conversions and get more customers.
Maybe building other SaaS and continue. Get your point.
Thank you.

Definitely, because your returns will be at the very least 5-10x more than any financial instrument. When your business is doing well and you have more to invest and want to diversify, then seek strategies to protect your wealth (since the "grow your wealth" part is taken care of by your business).
 

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They say it's a very secure investment that will always go up.

If you believe that, you're going to have a very rough time as an investor, business owner, anything outside of a job.
 

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If you believe that, you're going to have a very rough time as an investor, business owner, anything outside of a job.
I got distracted trying to help a relative with a wise investment. I was about to fall into that without having his same capital.

I will totally reinvest all of it into my own business that needs more Google, Bing, Taboola, Facebook, Instagram, ads. Also, my landing pages are not having the best conversions yet, need to add more features to my own SaaS.

I Will definitely open a thread about my Advertising journey which is not so good, yet. My sales came from a list I've been building across years.
 

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They say it's a very secure investment that will always go up. Has anyone invested in ETFs before?
I got distracted trying to help a relative with a wise investment. I was about to fall into that without having his same capital.

Ok, but what does that statement above have to do with the amount of capital that you or your friend have?

You mentioned "always go up" twice in two threads. If you truly believe that, you should dump all your money into them.
 

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Ok, but what does that statement above have to do with the amount of capital that you or your friend have?

You mentioned "always go up" twice in two threads. If you truly believe that, you should dump all your money into them.

Now I realize it doesn't make sense. I was researching options for this friend with money sitting in the bank and he wants something secure with better interests.
Mainly I did that question to get opinions.
Do you just let your money sit in the bank or you invest all of it in your business?
 

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There’s no investment that will “always go up,” and all of them exist because someone is profiting off of it (as far as funds go - for individual stocks, the profits have already been made by the insiders, other than market makers and traders).

There’s risk to every investment, except paying down debt and investing in yourself.

creating value that follows CENTS will be the least risky thing you can do. As for financial investments, read about the money system in Unscripted.

Especially some of MJ’s advice, like when he says “charge rent” on your money. Unscripted explains it better, it’s something that makes a lot of intuitive sense.

Real investments pay you and provide cash flow. Buying stock because you think it will “go up” is speculation - about as good as gambling.
 

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There’s no investment that will “always go up,” and all of them exist because someone is profiting off of it (as far as funds go - for individual stocks, the profits have already been made by the insiders, other than market makers and traders).

There’s risk to every investment, except paying down debt and investing in yourself.

creating value that follows CENTS will be the least risky thing you can do. As for financial investments, read about the money system in Unscripted.

Especially some of MJ’s advice, like when he says “charge rent” on your money. Unscripted explains it better, it’s something that makes a lot of intuitive sense.

Real investments pay you and provide cash flow. Buying stock because you think it will “go up” is speculation - about as good as gambling.
I will read Unscripted soon, need to get my badge on the Millionaire Fastlane first.
Anyway, you are right, and by the way, I invest like 15% of my profits on crypto. As a coder, I know it is the future.
Besides I am testing some bots to identify secure patterns.
3Commas.ai
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Probably after I understand more the crypto market strategies and study behaviours, I might create my own bot and connect to some Machine Learning algorithms :) But need to keep learning first since there are already existing bots.
 

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Now I realize it doesn't make sense. I was researching options for this friend with money sitting in the bank and he wants something secure with better interests.
Mainly I did that question to get opinions.
Do you just let your money sit in the bank or you invest all of it in your business?
My money is fairly diversified, but more real estate heavy.

I reinvest some into the business. But most of it goes to real estate. I have some stocks also. No ETFs and no crypto.
 

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I get your post :p
Ok understood. No stocks.

My money is fairly diversified, but more real estate heavy.

I reinvest some into the business. But most of it goes to real estate. I have some stocks also. No ETFs and no crypto.
Thanks for your response.
So real state like buying houses that need repair and then rent?

For crypto, I cannot avoid, some customers pay me via Crypto and I have seen good increases along time compared to the sitting capital in the bank.

That real estate thing is something I will have to dig in.
 

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Thanks for your response.
So real state like buying houses that need repair and then rent?
Buy and hold. No repairing. Some long term renting and some vacation renting.

For crypto, I cannot avoid, some customers pay me via Crypto and I have seen good increases along time compared to the sitting capital in the bank.
This is an odd limiting belief. I feel like you say this to justify you being in crypto. There's nothing wrong with being invested in crypto. But it's just weird to me that you say this.

If I was getting paid in gold coins and I didn't want gold coins, I'd just immediately exchange it for cash. I wouldn't be in it.
 

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Buy and hold. No repairing. Some long term renting and some vacation renting.


This is an odd limiting belief. I feel like you say this to justify you being in crypto. There's nothing wrong with being invested in crypto. But it's just weird to me that you say this.

If I was getting paid in gold coins and I didn't want gold coins, I'd just immediately exchange it for cash. I wouldn't be in it.
I justify saying I received and forget, then I saw 10x my BTC.
So I decided instead of cashing out, I bought other coins and start playing that when the market is rising, selling and buying the ones that go down. That logic has 3x the total I had. So, I'm not justifying that. It just works.
 

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I wanted to add, that the same that goes for your business goes for your investments:
Add value! Real estate investing is mostly a good thing (if you don't fall for any of the schemes that probably exist) because it adds value for the tenants. The next thing is business investing, where you analyse the specific businesses that you invest in. For this analysis they must have a stable (upgoing) track record to minimize risk. The business must also add value (as with everything good ;-) ), have a clear USP, and at best something called a "moat", something that protects their USP for a while.
But as with all investing, you have constantly to work (a few hours a week) to check if something changed and act correspondingly.
 

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I don't get why an investment into stocks is a bad thing? MJ has dedicated a whole chapter about his "investment strategy".

So, if MJ can afford to improve his, lets say, 100k+ portfolio in a year. Everybody is listening up. But if a small dude asking for an investment advice, his question is going to be treated like something extraordinary stupid or like "investment is a scripted mindset".

As long you never do your trading on credits or you throw all your money into one basket, you should/can learn about stock investment.

You should have a healthy distance about stock trading! Don't get overhyped about one stocks. Don't listen to people who can predict the future of a stock because no one can. Act countercyclical.

If you really have the interest to earn in long term, you should better focus primarily on your own business because you will have more control about your earnings. Threat stock trading as a small side hustle with the opportunity to invest the profits back into your business.
 

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I haven't done it myself, but from what I have been learning it seems like the wheel is the best way forward.

Its basically an investment strategy where you sell cash covered puts, collect premiums, get assigned, then sell covered calls and collect premiums from the calls.... until you get assigned again and repeat the cyle.

@MJ DeMarco is probably familiar with it.
 

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