Hey all. As a website designer for over 18 years, if you have any general questions please feel free to ask. BTW I DONT do wordpress and if you want to know why, feel free to ask
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Hi Merlox. My charges depend on the amount of work I need to put in to the site. While I do have set packages as a guide so people get a rough idea what they may be charged, every job is priced according to how much work I think I will have to put in. I also provide SEO, photography, copywriting, hosting etc etc..How much do you charge for a decent website and how do you determine the price? I see many people on upwork charging extremely low prices so I can't understand how you could go beyond that unless you have some massive network of referrals
SEO is still and was the best way to find clients. Get to the top of Google and people will contact you. Its up to you to nail the deal though.Hi Barry,
Ive been building Django applications for clients for about a year and have been slowly building up a decent portfolio, services, and company website. What did you find most effective for building your brand and finding new customers? Where’s there a certain moment when customers started flooding in?
Currently, I’m try to network and build funnels that will help bring in leads. I’m also looking to start a YouTube channel and build up my Instagram with relevant value add content to get my brand and name out there.
Hi Matt. I dont hand over anything. I rent them a website system to edit their content. They own the front end. I own the IP and everything that is on the server.Interesting. I only know WordPress really but am kind of amazed so many people are comfortable handing the reigns over to clients, even if they are given a bit of training. I'm still new to it all, but any clients I have had or even been in discussions with would be too scared to touch it as they would almost definitely break it.
I'm glad I learnt WordPress but am looking at working with an experienced developer with a team that works similar to what you do. WordPress really does look like a Frankensteins monster sometimes.
yea sure.. its what every other website company in the world who has any clout does. Make websites using a bespoke, home grown system then rent it out to people. Wordpress wont make you any money long term.Interesting, care to elaborate more about this renting system?
Any chance I can see your website? Either here in the thread or PM?
I don't need a website but sometimes meet people who do.
eg Yesterday I joined a Salsa class. They guys website is quite dire in my opinion. Very dark and gloomy looking.
So what it sounds like is you create and design a customer website on your own cms framework made with php, sell them the website and rent the server and cms capabilities to them.yea sure.. its what every other website company in the world who has any clout does. Make websites using a bespoke, home grown system then rent it out to people. Wordpress wont make you any money long term.
Set up a couple of custom web servers to run your CMS then rent it to people. BTW YOU MUST KEEP IT 100% stable. Thats pretty important and provide 100% support no matter what time of day it is.
BUT.. cool thing is if you do like I do and built completely bespoke systems based around peoples abilities they dont need help so you dont need to provide much support although if you tell people its all day and all night support, that provides a support that people know they can depend on but will never/ rarely use.
So what it sounds like is you create and design a customer website on your own cms framework made with php, sell them the website and rent the server and cms capabilities to them.
Hi Merlox. No I do not. There are always new businesses starting up and they will need websites. As I make every site from scratch and I use my own CMS, my clients need very little support with anything so the amount of clients I have does not have an effect on the time I have to make websites. I am making 3 sites right now. I am not pushed or stressed about doing them.Do you think you've reached the limit when it comes to working 1 on 1 with local clients? How would you scale? Thanks for sharing Barry, wish you the best.
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