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For many people "lacking motivation", their dopamine system is completely screwed up. There is pain associated to work, and pleasure associated to surfing social media (or eating chips, etc) all day.

This guy is.... abrasive. But I find it refreshing. He's not for everybody so here's your trigger warning. Lots of cursing & insults.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMWX2AJW2to
 
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Since the video is one hour long... would you care to give us a TL;DW version of the video for some context before we watch it?
 

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This guy is a proponent of water fasting (going 24 to 72 hours without food, only water + salt basically) for weightloss.

This video is specifically about how most problems are really a dopamine problem. Our dopamine is constantly elevated (or completely fatigued) due to environmental stimuli from surfing the internet/getting "Likes"/watching "adult content", playing video games, etc. This leads to over-eating as carbs/sugar also spike dopamine, as well as a lack of motivation to do the high value tasks we all should be doing, but many struggle to do.

If you think about it this way - modern people are so comfortable that they don't have any REAL reason to do hard things. Why workout & make yourself high value to attract a mate when you can get unlimited women & orgasms at the click of a button?

He advocates set periods of limited internet use to regulate our body's dopamine system. This increases Time & Energy available to focus on healthy routes for dopamine like working out and building your business.
 

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I love this guy, his branding is on point.

This video is specifically about how most problems are really a dopamine problem. Our dopamine is constantly elevated (or completely fatigued) due to environmental stimuli from surfing the internet/getting "Likes"/watching "adult content", playing video games, etc. This leads to over-eating as carbs/sugar also spike dopamine, as well as a lack of motivation to do the high value tasks we all should be doing, but many struggle to do.

So true. I honestly believe dopamine fatigue is the thing that holds most ppl from success.

Your brain literally has no incentive to build a business and do hard things if it's getting cocaine level dopamine hits from social media all day.
 
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I did this for a bit, you become very peaceful, sharp minded, happy with simple things...

I remember drinking milk after a couple days of no sugar and carbs and I thought the milk tasted noticeably sweet.

I accomplished more than I ever did with any adderall. It was very nice to limit your brain to not doing anything dopamine related, even cutting out music or playing guitar.

Highly recommended to reset your brain. I think I’ll do it again soon.
 

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I honestly believe dopamine fatigue is the thing that holds most ppl from success.

Your brain literally has no incentive to build a business and do hard things if it's getting cocaine level dopamine hits from social media all day.
Totally agree!

I think of it like this... Humans are basically just creatures responding to stimuli - chasing pleasure & avoiding pain. We create ingrained habits of how to get pleasure & avoid pain that have a HUGE impact on our results in life.

Pathway that will reward you: working out & closing deals creates good feelings. Lack of accomplishment creates bad feelings.

Pathway that will destroy you: eating ice cream & watching porn creates good feelings. Challenging myself creates bad feelings.
 
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Googling more about dopamine resets, etc & found this -
I find it almost impossible to read, but here's the highlights

"recently I experienced a very drastic transformation, going from a lazy guy... to a very disciplined person... with a degree of self-control that I could have never imagined.

Your brain has been a wired a certain way given the feedback and cues it received throughout your entire life, and that's where impulses and "old habits" come from, but it can be reset.

We respond positively to food that is crap and makes us fat because our brains evolved in a context of scarcity, so it learned to think that accumulating fat is a good strategy for survival.

But it can't tell context apart or a good source from a bad one, so it now thinks that the endless cycle of porn, junk food, media consumption, internet boards, idleness, video games and online stalking that some of us are in fit the purpose of evolutionary needs. Your brain only cares about abundance, and in civilized society the bad (and often illusory) source is always easier to find.

So you're going send the signal that these sources have been depleted and we must adapt. You'll cut those pleasant hobbies, stock many books, make a strict meal plan for the next days, you'll empty your room of most things that make it feel "yours" like posters, computers, personal objects, anything that is aesthetically pleasing to you. You will not use a phone, no internet, no masturbation, no regular contact with people you like, no music you enjoy (more important than you think), no TV. Spend most of the day on your bed. If you have to go to work or school, leave your house late and get home early. If you have any reading to do buy it, print it, send it to an e-reader (not a tablet), it will be your main activity.

Your only hobbies will be lifting and reading, maybe meditating, and trust me you'll love doing them even if you hate it now. You're going to keep this up for 7 days.

Also very important: avoid idleness, walking around doing nothing, daydreaming, avoid having imaginary conversations, avoid thinking about the past or people you know. Don't lose yourself in thought, maladaptive daydreaming show that those things can become the "bad, abundant source" on their own.

Keep a notebook and a pen around in those days. Use it as a diary if you want, but most importantly, use it to sort out your priorities, write what habits and projects you want to have after, and what habits you want to avoid. Once you're done with the 7 days, re-introduce the positive habits.

If your first days after this de-programming period is something like your "ideal" day, your brain will learn to take those actions as cues for its reward system. Eat well, exercise, talk to people, be productive, read, organize your space."
 

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How long did you do it for? How did you do it?

A little over a week.

Here were the rules

Up at 5am
Fasting for 20 hours a day
No sugar or carbs. Only meat and eggs.
Food is prepared and eaten outside. (I would grill a big steak and sit out on the dock with my feet in the water and eat it)
No tv, music, entertainment, porn, sex
No hanging out
Work all day
Make a goal and set out each day with the sole purpose of achieving it. No distractions.

It made me lose a lot of extra body fat and helped with inflammation and allergies as well. I highly recommend it.
 

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This guy is a proponent of water fasting (going 24 to 72 hours without food, only water + salt basically) for weightloss.

This video is specifically about how most problems are really a dopamine problem. Our dopamine is constantly elevated (or completely fatigued) due to environmental stimuli from surfing the internet/getting "Likes"/watching "adult content", playing video games, etc. This leads to over-eating as carbs/sugar also spike dopamine, as well as a lack of motivation to do the high value tasks we all should be doing, but many struggle to do.

If you think about it this way - modern people are so comfortable that they don't have any REAL reason to do hard things. Why workout & make yourself high value to attract a mate when you can get unlimited women & orgasms at the click of a button?

He advocates set periods of limited internet use to regulate our body's dopamine system. This increases Time & Energy available to focus on healthy routes for dopamine like working out and building your business.
Makes sense. This is basically the pleasure/reward system we have in our brains that is regulated by dopamine and other chemicals. It's true, there are too many things out there that give us these "rewards". But the problem is, they're shortcuts or simply a false feeling of a reward. Which throws the whole system out of whack.Too much eating, sex, masturbation, videogames, drugs, speeding while driving, TV, internet, etc, is not a good thing.
 
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