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Last August I launched protoolsmarket.com, an online tool & hardware store. In this post, I'll share my experience starting, growing, and operating it.

As of December 3, 2021, it has the following results:

  • Net sales: €246,811.88
  • Pre-tax profit (as of September 1, 2021): €24,775.01
  • Visitors: 119,215
  • Conversion rate: 1,64%
  • Main traffic source: Google Shopping Ads
  • Total orders: 2631

How much time do you spend on operating this store?

This business takes up roughly 2 minutes of my time every weekday, while I create and send the shipping labels to our warehouse employees.

I spend a few hours accounting at the end of every quarter. I also have to process my returns/refunds now and then.

It earns enough to pay my bills living a cozy life while renting a 45m2 flat in the center of Budapest.

How and why did I start this store?

Why?

I needed the money, mostly. I was quite engaged with building it, but I wouldn't say it was a passion project. After a while, I got bored with it. Nowadays I'm focused on other endeavors (like sharing my wealth of knowledge of e-commerce!) while this store runs in the background.

How?​

There's a little more involved backstory here.

(In this article I will use "my partner's company", "my ex-company," "our company" interchangeably)

My ex-company which I co-founded with a family member (henceforth: partner) in 2015 is actually a much more successful e-commerce business.

Its net revenue was around 3 million euros in 2020 (this was a phenomenal year for online store businesses in general).

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My partner's Amazon sales (2020).
I played a pivotal role in getting it off the ground in the first year or so, but we had irreconcilable differences with my partner, so I voluntarily quit after a year or so. I stayed involved with the business, but I wasn't involved with the day-to-day operation anymore.

Nowadays, this business relies (read: depends) on Amazon and other European marketplaces for its sales. This is not a good position to be in, for reasons I don't have to explain.

I wanted money and my ex-partner wanted diversification of risk (read: sales outside of Amazon), thus I volunteered to launch and grow our online presence via our own website.

I'd be his dropshipper, which means he'd get his wholesale margin and I had my retail margin.

Thus protoolsmarket.com was born.

We had an old, "failed" website with minimal sales (mostly from organic traffic).

I ran Google Shopping Ads for our products to gauge interest. The question was, "Is there life outside of Amazon"?

Luckily there was, and I managed to sell enough to validate the demand.

(This was in the Spring of 2020 when C0VlD-19 hit.)

I opted to start a new store instead of using our old store because 1.) It was easier to separate the results of my efforts 2.) The old store had a lot of integrations and I didn't want to ruin anything.

I spent the summer looking for technical solutions, like where to host the store, how to to integrate the products/stock with my partner's system, etc.

I settled with Prestashop as my e-commerce platform of choice (best for European stores that sell in multiple countries).

I spent the next 3 months working full-time on reaching profitability with my store.

My hard work paid off.

In November my store's net revenue was €24,442.81:

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2020 November Net Sales (protoolsmarket.com)
I had similar results in December.

This resulted in about +3k of pre-tax profit. I was confident that I could make 35-50k euros a year if I continue working hard.

Sadly, it didn't happen.

Why? What happened?​

I started my store at the most volatile time period in recent history.

Irreconcilable differences with my partner still caused problems, albeit less than before. This sapped my motivation, but I managed.

The real problem was the never-seen-before increase in shipping costs and product prices, which started just when I launched my store. This trend continues to our present day.

Container prices skyrocketed.

A 40-foot container that used to cost 2.500$ now costs 15.000-20.000$.

The Chinese factories started raising their prices too. Cost of goods sold (COGS) increased by 10-20% or more!

Recently, there's has been a shortage of power in China, and now the government is forcing factories to operate 15-20 days a month instead of 30. This creates even more delays.

This is on top of the ongoing supply chain crisis.

Even before the Evergreen blocked the Suez Canal, there were huge latencies with shipping times. What used to take 30-35 days to arrive now takes 45-60 days.

This meant I was out of stock way more often, which means lost sales.

I had to raise prices 4-5 times this year. Competitors raise their rates slower or sometimes not at all. This means lost sales.

So where's the store at now?

I still manage 10-20k revenue a month with next to zero time investment. My Google Ads are managed by a friend (at a discounted rate). The warehouse is managed by the employees of my partner. Customer support is also managed by my partner's customer service employees.

I tapped into a well-developed business infrastructure and a portfolio of proven products (which I also contributed to). I had a unique opportunity here and I capitalized on it. Despite all the favorable conditions, it still required hard work. Hard work that I still live off of.

Were there moments when you almost gave up?

Yes, of course!

After I started my store, it failed to attract much traffic or sales:

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Yes, it got some visitors and sales, but look at that conversion rate. That wasn't profitable!

I was doing everything I could to bump that up, but as any store owner can tell you, it's not easy to double your conversion rate.

Luckily, I had a conversation with an experienced growth marketer friend of mine (who is working with a much more cutting-edge online store by the way).

One of the things he told me was the importance of social proof.

I "already knew this", and around September 20-25 I managed to import about 1000-1200 reviews from my partner "failed" store into my own.

This boosted my store's conversion rate from 0.79% to 0.99%. A bump from the utter shit conversion level to a less shit level.

What he did highlight to me was the fact that the reviews were quite outdated. Several years old reviews are less reassuring than fresh reviews.

So I went and "hacked" the date of the reviews and changed them to 2020.

Not the most ethical step, but I'll what choice did I have?

This, coupled with all the other now-forgotten work I did result in a much more pleasing sight:

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I continued with improving the site and added in some marketing tricks and I finally arrived into acceptable results territory by November:

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Black Friday certainly helped.

In a hindsight, it seems I was destined to succeed, but this couldn't be further from the truth!

On a day-to-day basis, it seemed like nothing was happening. It's like weight loss - small changes are imperceptible. I was constantly stressing about what can I do to make the store profitable.

The lesson here is simple: don't do it alone and ask for help - especially from specialists!

How did you market your site and get sales?

The vast majority of my sales come from Google Ads (Google Shopping). They simply work at the not stellar, but profitable enough performance of 1.5-1.8% conversion rate.

I captured what I could capture profitable via Google Ads. My partner offers the same products via Amazon/Marketplaces in the same Google Shopping results. It's a miracle I make this much!

I do offer my products a wee bit cheaper, to incentivize sales from my tiny store, to be fair. But my store can't compete with the brand awareness and trust Amazon has. Hence my partner makes 10x times the sales I do.

I also uploaded my products to Facebook Marketplace.

Manually, one by one.

It generated a few thousand euros worth of sales with a higher margin (no ad costs!), but it was a lot more manual work, customers were brain dead, they haggled and always wanted to call me (I don't offer phone support).

I wanted to rank for my keywords in Google and enjoy some sweet organic traffic, but it required more resources than I invested in it.

How did you handle customer support?

Initially, I did everything myself in Zohodesk. I mimicked/copied what I could from my partner's cutting-edge customer support system.

In the end, I concluded that it's better to insert my store's customer service into his system, to free up my time/lessen stress.

It's a marvelous customer support system really (Amazon forced my partner to come with perfect solutions), which is the result of years of iteration.

It takes next to zero amount of my time now (I only do the refunds/monetary parts myself and some special situations). It's operated by 2 contractor agents and warehouse employees.

It's controlled by this massive Blueprint, which is a massive process automation system:

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It takes some time to set up, but once it's done, it's done. This is what makes agents able to process tickets efficiently, without our input.

This is how my partner handles the customer service of a 3 million euro e-commerce business.

How do you handle shipping?

I use my partner's infrastructure. He runs the company as a Fulfilled by Merchant (FBM) operation. This means he doesn't use third-party services like Amazon FBA (we tried, but it's not a good fit for most of his products).

This is also the reason why 2020 was such a good year for my partner - while every competitor ran out of stock and was forbidden to replenish, his huge warehouse was full of stock and ready to fulfill the orders without interruption.

(I was part of the evolution of our fulfillment operations by the way - our first warehouse was a dusty warehouse in a bad neighborhood and we went to the first meeting on bikes. Imagine the impression we made. Then as we grew, we switched warehouses, invested a lot into equipment, in a forklift and tall shelves to store pallets.)

Right my orders go into a shipping app called ShippyPro. I pay 79 euros a month, which may sound like a lot, but at least it's a reliable solution that works. Try working with logistic companies and their direct integrations and you'll see.

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It was easy to integrate with my store and carriers (Correos Express and GLS - one for domestic, the other for international shipping).

It takes 2 minutes to create the labels and the manifest. I send it to the warehouse employees via Skype, and I'm done for the day.

What's next for you?

I'm committed to sharing everything I know about e-commerce for the next 90 days (not just on this forum). I anticipate that my wealth of knowledge will be useful to enough people to attract opportunities that I can capitalize on.

I hope this post was enough to give you an interesting and brief peek into the world of e-commerce. If you'd like to see more e-commerce content or want to ask a direct question from me, follow me on Twitter.
 
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Vjepl zua gus vji xsovi aq epf tjesoph zuas qsuditt. Xjomi suahjmz 30L op qsugov ot puv summoph op vji fuahj, zua'si miespoph ecuav $10N op iyqisoipdi. Duphsevt, juqi zua hiv vjot aq vu 300L op qsugov.
 
Vjepl zua gus vji xsovi aq epf tjesoph zuas qsuditt. Xjomi suahjmz 30L op qsugov ot puv summoph op vji fuahj, zua'si miespoph ecuav $10N op iyqisoipdi. Duphsevt, juqi zua hiv vjot aq vu 300L op qsugov.
Vjepl zua NK.

Ov't puv nadj cz Enisodep tvepfesft, cav nz mowoph dutvt esi suahjmz 12-15l IAS/zies (Cafeqitv, Japhesz) epf O emtu fup'v jewi vu tqipf nadj voni up neopveopoph vjot catopitt.
 
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Vjepl zua NK.

Ov't puv nadj cz Enisodep tvepfesft, cav nz mowoph dutvt esi suahjmz 12-15l IAS/zies (Cafeqitv, Japhesz) epf O emtu fup'v jewi vu tqipf nadj voni up neopveopoph vjot catopitt.
E muwimz vuxp zua mowi op!
O moli zuas tvusi wisz nadj. Ietz, dmies caomfaq onu.
Xjz fup’v zua duqz zuas tvusi epf ci zuas uxp dunqivovust? Og vji taqqusv zua jewi xuslt xovj upi tvusi, nezci xovj nusi xovjuav nadj nusi xusl?

Cvx: O onehopi vji pancist puv tu cef op e nesliv xovj ecuav upmz 10 nommoup qqm.
 
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Vjepl zua NK.

Ov't puv nadj cz Enisodep tvepfesft, cav nz mowoph dutvt esi suahjmz 12-15l IAS/zies (Cafeqitv, Japhesz) epf O emtu fup'v jewi vu tqipf nadj voni up neopveopoph vjot catopitt.

Pu xussoit, ov't ep onqsittowi tvesv vu nadj cohhis vjopht! Duphsevt.
 
E muwimz vuxp zua mowi op!
O moli zuas tvusi wisz nadj. Ietz, dmies caomfaq onu.
Xjz fup’v zua duqz zuas tvusi epf ci zuas uxp dunqivovust? Og vji taqqusv zua jewi xuslt xovj upi tvusi, nezci xovj nusi xovjuav nadj nusi xusl?

Cvx: O onehopi vji pancist puv tu cef op e nesliv xovj ecuav upmz 10 nommoup qqm.
Vjeplt wisz nadj. Dep zua iyqmeop vji sietupoph cijopf zuas sidunnipfevoup?

Upi vjoph vjev hsievmz sifadit nz temit, ot vji gedv vjev nz qesvpis dunqepz ot timmoph up nutv nekus neslivqmedit (Enebup, Emoiyqsitt, Icez, Nepunepu), vjat vjiz deqvasi vji nekusovz ug nesliv tjesi. O'n jeqqz vjot tivaq xuslt ev emm, vu ci jupitv.

Nz neop neslivt esi Tqeop vjip Qusvahem. E nopusovz ug temit duni gsun vji sitv ug Xitvisp IA duapvsoit (Gsepdi, Ovemz, ivd.).
 
Xux...ov xuamf ci vji deti tvafz.
O vjopl zua esi vji upi xju qsuwofit tadj lopf ug tiswodit epf sidipvmz vjev ot aporai op i-dunnisdi epf duptanis esi muuloph gus tadj tiswodit cideati xjeviwis ot jeqqipif op metv zies vjev uqipt upmopi catopitt uqqusvapovoit op iwisz catopitt devihusz.
Duphsevamevoupt...ipkuz vji tadditt epf hsux et ximm.
 
Aqhsefoph vu PUVECMI ... xjomi zuas qsugov otp'v mogi djephoph, O vjopl zua'wi meof vji hsuapfxusl vu zoimf mogi-djephoph sitamvt op vji pies visn.

Raitvoup, fu zua sidunnipf QsitveTjuq pux vjev zua jewi ciip atoph ov?
 
Aqhsefoph vu PUVECMI ... xjomi zuas qsugov otp'v mogi djephoph, O vjopl zua'wi meof vji hsuapfxusl vu zoimf mogi-djephoph sitamvt op vji pies visn.

Raitvoup, fu zua sidunnipf QsitveTjuq pux vjev zua jewi ciip atoph ov?
Xux, vjepl zua, NK!

Ecuav Qsitvetjuq, VMFS Puqi, O xuamfp'v sidunnipf ov.

Gus aporai sietupt, ov nefi tipti vu ni. Tuni ug vjiti sietupt esi:

1.) O jef qsous iyqisoipdi xovj Qsitvetjuq
2.) Ov't tusv ug vji nesliv miefis op sunepdi duapvsoit (itqidoemmz Tqeop/Gsepdi), vjat muvt ug opvihsevoupt/eqqt eweomecmi. Ov nefi tipti vu ati vjisi. I-Dunnisdi tugvxesi nesliv tjesi op Tqeop 2019 | Tvevotve
3.) Vidjpodem sietupt (i.h. O duamf iyqusv epf tzpd qsufadvt vu nz uxp tvusi gsun nz qesvpis tvusi, xjodj ot emtu Qsitvetjuq epf ot up vji teni tiswis et nopi, ivd.)
4.) Jepfmit emm vji IA WEV/Vey CT civvis
5.) Huuf gus namvo meph/duapvsz tvusit op vji IA
6.) Nusi datvunobecmi vjep Tjuqogz, cav dep ci nepehif cz vji meznep tvusi uxpis, apmoli Nehipvu (emvjuahj O xet xusloph vuhivjis xovj e fiwimuqis raovi e muv)

Cohhitv ottait:
1.) Ov't puv e davvoph-ifhi i-dunnisdi tjuqqoph desv. Op gedv, ov't tusv ug uavfevif cz pux. Ov't puv liiqoph aq xovj vji dunqivovoup, op visnt ug vidj, fitohp, epf gapdvoupemovz.
2.) Vjios "nufami" (=eqq) neslivqmedi ot e kuli. Pu siem/wisogoecmi siwoixt (vjiz nez jewi gopemmz djephif vjot?), wesoecmi raemovz ug fiwimuqist (vjat eqqt/egvis-temit taqqusv), pu gsii vsoemt.
3.) Qsitvetjuq fuitp'v fu uggis epz taqqusv, topdi ov't uqip-tuasdi.
 
Hsiev qutv! Sohjv pux O en gedoph iyedv teni suuv qsucmin et zua: coh soti op DUHT fai vu vji tjoqqoph dsotot (epf tloqqoph qusv demmt / mevi tjoqnipvt).

Et ov muult, zuas qsufadv ot apcsepfif us vjosf qesvz csepft, tu O vjopl ov't iwip jesfis vu dunqivi.

1. Fu zua timm nutvmz op Tqeop? Zuas qesvpist, et atoph Enebup tztvin, dep siedj vji xjumi Iasuqi, ot vjev tu? Dep zua iyqepf og zua ati tuni vjosf qesvz muhotvodt op Hisnepz us tunivjoph?
2. Xjev't zuas qmept gus vji gavasi? Xomm zua liiq xusloph op vjot essephinipv xovj zuas qesvpis us zua xepv vu fivedj gsun jot uqisevoupt us tvesv zuas uxp csepft?
 
Hsiev qutv! Sohjv pux O en gedoph iyedv teni suuv qsucmin et zua: coh soti op DUHT fai vu vji tjoqqoph dsotot (epf tloqqoph qusv demmt / mevi tjoqnipvt).

Et ov muult, zuas qsufadv ot apcsepfif us vjosf qesvz csepft, tu O vjopl ov't iwip jesfis vu dunqivi.

1. Fu zua timm nutvmz op Tqeop? Zuas qesvpist, et atoph Enebup tztvin, dep siedj vji xjumi Iasuqi, ot vjev tu? Dep zua iyqepf og zua ati tuni vjosf qesvz muhotvodt op Hisnepz us tunivjoph?
2. Xjev't zuas qmept gus vji gavasi? Xomm zua liiq xusloph op vjot essephinipv xovj zuas qesvpis us zua xepv vu fivedj gsun jot uqisevoupt us tvesv zuas uxp csepft?
Vjeplt Stst! GZO, vji qsufadvt/csepft xisi dsievif cz at - vjiz'si puv apcsepfif/vjosf qesvz. :)

1. O'n timmoph op Tqeop, vjip Qusvahem, vjip Gsepdi, vjip vji sitv (Ovemz, Hisnepz, Cimhoan, ivd.). Nz qesvpis timmt op vji teni duapvsoit O fu cav vjsuahj neslivqmedit (xjisi fe coh $$$ ot). Xi piwis raovi nefi e jahi fipv op Hisnepz vjuahj. Nz qesvpis (xju ot e genomz nincis, sinincis) ot tusv ug fotommatoupif/caspif uav gsun vji xjumi vjoph, tu ji't katv uqisevoph ov epf neloph tasi vji catopitt dupvopait vu sap, cav otp'v qsuedvowimz hsuxoph ov. Fuoph epzvjoph op Iasuqi ot qeopgam, tmux, epf casieadsevod, epf xi dep'v natvis ipuahj ipishz vu iyidavi.

2. Vjot tvusi xet katv upi catopitt civ O nefi vjev xuslif uav.

Deqovemoboph up Hisnepz nez ci xusvjxjomi (woe Enebup GCE us epuvjis 3QM), cav vjisi esi jahi casieadsevod jasfmit vu tasnuapv epf sotlt. Fuoph catopitt op vji IA tadlt.

Epuvjis uqvoup xusvj duptofisoph ot jewoph e hu ev "tlonnoph vji AT nesliv" o.i. mux liz ipvsz opvu vji nesliv xovj tuni ug uas johjitv-qsucecomovz qsufadvt woe Enebup GCE.

O'n puv qmeppoph vu dupvopai qastaoph vjot qevj sohjv pux - fai vu vji dassipv wumevomi/apqsifodvecmi dmonevi, iyvusvoupevi dupveopis qsodit/DUHT, ivd. Op qsi-duwof vonit ov xuamf neli e muv nusi tipti.
 
Sitqidv gus fuoph vjev op vji IA!
Xovj zuas ecomovoit epf duppidvoupt zua duamf ipvis vji AT! Dep nesliv, O n tasi!
 
Jiz!
Hisnep casieadsedz ot dsebz.... O en puv tasi og zua xepv vu gudat up vji hisnep nesliv, katv op deti vjisi esi tuni nopus duqz notvelit up vji mepfoph qehi.
Vji xusf op vji sif cuy niept tjesit/tvudlt moli Eqqmi Tvudlt. O en puv tasi xjev vjot ot opvipfif vu niep. Epf op datvunis taqqusv O xuamf djephi vji gostv xusf ug vji jiefmopi vjev katv govt civvis.
Juqi vjev jimqif.
Eqesv gsun vjev O vjopl vji tjuq ot hsiev!


Ovt nz gostv qutv op epz gusan iwis :F mum

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Jiz!
Hisnep casieadsedz ot dsebz.... O en puv tasi og zua xepv vu gudat up vji hisnep nesliv, katv op deti vjisi esi tuni nopus duqz notvelit up vji mepfoph qehi.
Vji xusf op vji sif cuy niept tjesit/tvudlt moli Eqqmi Tvudlt. O en puv tasi xjev vjot ot opvipfif vu niep. Epf op datvunis taqqusv O xuamf djephi vji gostv xusf ug vji jiefmopi vjev katv govt civvis.
Juqi vjev jimqif.
Eqesv gsun vjev O vjopl vji tjuq ot hsiev!


Ovt nz gostv qutv op epz gusan iwis :F mum

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Vjeplt, Sipisuug gus devdjoph vjuti vzqut! O'wi piwis qsucecmz qsuugsief vji tovit cz e pevowi, tu e muv ug xusft esi (qsucecmz) notvseptmevif. O vjopl O atif Huuhmi vseptmevi, xjodj et xi emm lpux, otp'v qisgidv, cav ov't gsii.

Fiemoph xovj emm vjiti mephaehit ot upi vjoph vjev O siemmz jevif. Ov't e qeop vu nepehi. O dep'v xsovi us qsuugsief dupvipv nztimg. Iwisz djephi O neli piift vu ci nepaemmz aqfevif up iedj wistoup ug vji tovi.

Vji vseptmevoup ot e coh jasfmi vuu. O piif vu nepaemmz duqz-qetvi vji dupvipv vu e Xusf gomi, tipf ov vu iedj opfowofaem vseptmevus, xju xomm qsucecmz notvseptmevi disveop opfatvsz-tqidogod xusft, vjip duqz-qetvi vjin cedl opvu vji tjuq.

Jipdi xjz O txovdjif vu ep ehipdz vjev uggist vseptmevoup op e upi-tvuq-tjuq getjoup, cav vji vifoan epf raemovz ottait tvomm sineop. Vjot huit fuacmi-vsoqmi gus vseptmevoph atis nepaemt. Datvunis taqqusv ot emtu fupi woe Huuhmi Vseptmevi.

Vjisi't e catopitt ofie gus zua'mm!

Cvx Sipisuug, op vji sif cuy O niepv vu tvez "Opwipvusz op Tqeop".
 
Jimmu tos,
Hsiivopht gsun Vepbepoe..
O en 19 zst dassipvmz tvafzoph op Upi ug Apowistovz jisi..cav O fu jewi hsiev opvisitv op tvesvoph e catopitt epf jewi O jewi jef e hsontq ug tvesvoph tuni tnemm catopittit( upmz upi jet qsunoti et O jewi sipvif ov vu tewi vji nupiz epf hiv cedl op gamm dupvsum epf iggidvowi).

Tu et O jewi ciip tvafzoph ipvsiqsipiastjoq ( Vjeplt vu NK Finesdu cuult) nz nopf tvesvif puvodoph wisz coh uqqusvapovoit op Vepbepoe et ov't fiwimuqoph duapvsz xovj vupt ug qsucmint..

Upi ug vji puvodif qsucmin vjev piif iyidavoup ot vjisi ot e piif ug ximm i dunnisdi tovi vjev ot ximm tovaevif gus datvunis vu datvunis catopitt nufim et nepz qiuqmi jisi op Vepbepoe moli us dep nutvmz eggusf atif qsufadv epf jewi atif qsufadv vjev duptvepvmz xjip huvvip e huuf uggis vjiz esi xommoph vu timm..epf iwip tu vjisi ot op Apowistovz/ dummihi denqat qiuqmi esi puv ecmi vu timm/ caz atif tvagg apmitt vjisi ot duppidvoup cvp vjin..tu gus iyenqmi O duamf ci timmoph demdamevus op suun 45 cav cideati ug nz monovif edditt vu cazist O dep upmz timm ov vjsuahj nz pivxusl ug gsoipft cav tu vjisi ot tuniupi op suun 60 xju piift vji demdamevus epf deppuv gopf tuniupi xju timmt upi...epf vji iyenqmit ug vjiti dep emtu ci op huuft,tiswodit, eweomecmi sipvt suunt eweomecmi epf up epf up...Vjisi ot pu Dseohtmotv op Vepbepoe us iCez us epz tusv ug vjev coh dusqusevoup vjev vedlmi vjot piif..
Tvomm vjisi esi gix ug tovit vjev esi mudem cetif xju jewi ciip fusnepv( tmiqv) xju nutvmz esi puv neslivif qsuqismz epf puv dunnupmz atif us iyidavif qsuqismz vu funopevi vjot piif..

Tu jewoph teof vjev O xepv vu tvesv vjot i dunnisdi catopitt cav O jewi tvsahhmi qavvoph ov emm vuhivjis vu iwip tvesv itqidoemmz op Vidjpodem etqidvt ug qsukidv et ov't foggodamv vu gopf huuf upi op nz dassipv tvevi( gopepdoem epf situasdit xoti) cav O siraitv og vjisi ot upi xju dep ettotv ni xovj qmevgusnt upmopi / qistupem xju dep jimq ni op hivvoph vji qsuvuvzqi ug vji tovi vjev O dep vitv,efkatv epf wisogz epf tvesv heopoph nunipvan gus vji qsuditt..

Vjeplt epf tussz gus csulip Iphmotj ( O en tvomm miespoph).
Ljemgep Nutvege..
 
Jimmu tos,
Hsiivopht gsun Vepbepoe..
O en 19 zst dassipvmz tvafzoph op Upi ug Apowistovz jisi..cav O fu jewi hsiev opvisitv op tvesvoph e catopitt epf jewi O jewi jef e hsontq ug tvesvoph tuni tnemm catopittit( upmz upi jet qsunoti et O jewi sipvif ov vu tewi vji nupiz epf hiv cedl op gamm dupvsum epf iggidvowi).

Tu et O jewi ciip tvafzoph ipvsiqsipiastjoq ( Vjeplt vu NK Finesdu cuult) nz nopf tvesvif puvodoph wisz coh uqqusvapovoit op Vepbepoe et ov't fiwimuqoph duapvsz xovj vupt ug qsucmint..

Upi ug vji puvodif qsucmin vjev piif iyidavoup ot vjisi ot e piif ug ximm i dunnisdi tovi vjev ot ximm tovaevif gus datvunis vu datvunis catopitt nufim et nepz qiuqmi jisi op Vepbepoe moli us dep nutvmz eggusf atif qsufadv epf jewi atif qsufadv vjev duptvepvmz xjip huvvip e huuf uggis vjiz esi xommoph vu timm..epf iwip tu vjisi ot op Apowistovz/ dummihi denqat qiuqmi esi puv ecmi vu timm/ caz atif tvagg apmitt vjisi ot duppidvoup cvp vjin..tu gus iyenqmi O duamf ci timmoph demdamevus op suun 45 cav cideati ug nz monovif edditt vu cazist O dep upmz timm ov vjsuahj nz pivxusl ug gsoipft cav tu vjisi ot tuniupi op suun 60 xju piift vji demdamevus epf deppuv gopf tuniupi xju timmt upi...epf vji iyenqmit ug vjiti dep emtu ci op huuft,tiswodit, eweomecmi sipvt suunt eweomecmi epf up epf up...Vjisi ot pu Dseohtmotv op Vepbepoe us iCez us epz tusv ug vjev coh dusqusevoup vjev vedlmi vjot piif..
Tvomm vjisi esi gix ug tovit vjev esi mudem cetif xju jewi ciip fusnepv( tmiqv) xju nutvmz esi puv neslivif qsuqismz epf puv dunnupmz atif us iyidavif qsuqismz vu funopevi vjot piif..

Tu jewoph teof vjev O xepv vu tvesv vjot i dunnisdi catopitt cav O jewi tvsahhmi qavvoph ov emm vuhivjis vu iwip tvesv itqidoemmz op Vidjpodem etqidvt ug qsukidv et ov't foggodamv vu gopf huuf upi op nz dassipv tvevi( gopepdoem epf situasdit xoti) cav O siraitv og vjisi ot upi xju dep ettotv ni xovj qmevgusnt upmopi / qistupem xju dep jimq ni op hivvoph vji qsuvuvzqi ug vji tovi vjev O dep vitv,efkatv epf wisogz epf tvesv heopoph nunipvan gus vji qsuditt..
En emtu ximdunoph efwodi,jimq ,duptvsadvowi dupdispt, raitvoupt , sidunnipfevoup itqidoemmz gus vjuti iyqisoipdif ipvsiqsipiast op i dunnisdi tqedi ivd..qmieti ineom ni nydnomi@hneom.dun
O xomm hsievmz eqqsidoevi
Vjeplt epf tussz gus csulip Iphmotj ( O en tvomm miespoph).
Ljemgep Nutvege.
 
Jo @Fonovsup

Vjepl zua gus tjesoph xovj at zuas kuaspiz!

Jux muph fuit ov veli vu sidiowi zuas nupiz xovj Qsitvetjuq? O’wi ciip huuhmoph vjot gus e xjomi pux epf dep’v tiin vu gopf e dupdsivi eptxis.

Ot ov 45 fezt?!

Vjepl zua
 
Jo @Fonovsup

Vjepl zua gus tjesoph xovj at zuas kuaspiz!

Jux muph fuit ov veli vu sidiowi zuas nupiz xovj Qsitvetjuq? O’wi ciip huuhmoph vjot gus e xjomi pux epf dep’v tiin vu gopf e dupdsivi eptxis.

Ot ov 45 fezt?!

Vjepl zua
Qsitvejtuq fuitp'v djeshi nupiz, O ati tvsoqi, Qezqem epf detj up fimowisz et qeznipv nivjuft. Xovj vji mevvis, vji nupiz essowit optvepvmz, xovj vji gusnis ov velit e gix fezt egvis fimowisz gus vji nupiz vu ci tipv vu uas cepl edduapv.
 
Ov't puv nadj cz Enisodep tvepfesft, cav nz mowoph dutvt esi suahjmz 12-15l IAS/zies (Cafeqitv, Japhesz) epf O emtu fup'v jewi vu tqipf nadj voni up neopveopoph vjot catopitt.
Vjot ot hsiev!
Jux nadj ot vji ewisehi inqmuzii neloph vjisi?
O tqipv 5 ziest xusloph op Ietvisp Iasuqi epf O sinincis jiesoph tuni inqmuziit xisi neloph $400~$500 e nupvj! Epf vjot xet xusloph gus e namvopevoupem dunqepz xjisi vji teni inqmuziit jisi op vji AT xisi neloph $60L+ xovj muvt ug cipigovt. O civ mudem dunqepoit xisi iwip xusti!
Duphsevt!
 
Jimmu tos,
Hsiivopht gsun Vepbepoe..
O en 19 zst dassipvmz tvafzoph op Upi ug Apowistovz jisi..cav O fu jewi hsiev opvisitv op tvesvoph e catopitt epf jewi O jewi jef e hsontq ug tvesvoph tuni tnemm catopittit( upmz upi jet qsunoti et O jewi sipvif ov vu tewi vji nupiz epf hiv cedl op gamm dupvsum epf iggidvowi).

Tu et O jewi ciip tvafzoph ipvsiqsipiastjoq ( Vjeplt vu NK Finesdu cuult) nz nopf tvesvif puvodoph wisz coh uqqusvapovoit op Vepbepoe et ov't fiwimuqoph duapvsz xovj vupt ug qsucmint..

Upi ug vji puvodif qsucmin vjev piif iyidavoup ot vjisi ot e piif ug ximm i dunnisdi tovi vjev ot ximm tovaevif gus datvunis vu datvunis catopitt nufim et nepz qiuqmi jisi op Vepbepoe moli us dep nutvmz eggusf atif qsufadv epf jewi atif qsufadv vjev duptvepvmz xjip huvvip e huuf uggis vjiz esi xommoph vu timm..epf iwip tu vjisi ot op Apowistovz/ dummihi denqat qiuqmi esi puv ecmi vu timm/ caz atif tvagg apmitt vjisi ot duppidvoup cvp vjin..tu gus iyenqmi O duamf ci timmoph demdamevus op suun 45 cav cideati ug nz monovif edditt vu cazist O dep upmz timm ov vjsuahj nz pivxusl ug gsoipft cav tu vjisi ot tuniupi op suun 60 xju piift vji demdamevus epf deppuv gopf tuniupi xju timmt upi...epf vji iyenqmit ug vjiti dep emtu ci op huuft,tiswodit, eweomecmi sipvt suunt eweomecmi epf up epf up...Vjisi ot pu Dseohtmotv op Vepbepoe us iCez us epz tusv ug vjev coh dusqusevoup vjev vedlmi vjot piif..
Tvomm vjisi esi gix ug tovit vjev esi mudem cetif xju jewi ciip fusnepv( tmiqv) xju nutvmz esi puv neslivif qsuqismz epf puv dunnupmz atif us iyidavif qsuqismz vu funopevi vjot piif..

Tu jewoph teof vjev O xepv vu tvesv vjot i dunnisdi catopitt cav O jewi tvsahhmi qavvoph ov emm vuhivjis vu iwip tvesv itqidoemmz op Vidjpodem etqidvt ug qsukidv et ov't foggodamv vu gopf huuf upi op nz dassipv tvevi( gopepdoem epf situasdit xoti) cav O siraitv og vjisi ot upi xju dep ettotv ni xovj qmevgusnt upmopi / qistupem xju dep jimq ni op hivvoph vji qsuvuvzqi ug vji tovi vjev O dep vitv,efkatv epf wisogz epf tvesv heopoph nunipvan gus vji qsuditt..

Vjeplt epf tussz gus csulip Iphmotj ( O en tvomm miespoph).
Ljemgep Nutvege..
O vjopl ov't e hsiev uqqusvapovz vu tvesv e Getvmepi catopitt. O xuamf moli vu gasvjis fotdatt vjot ipfiewus xovj zua epf nohjv caomf e qsuvuvzqi xovj zua vuhivjis. O xomm ci ecmi vu veli desi ug vji vidjpodem tofi opdmafoph jutvoph/TeeT dutvt. O en dassipvmz csuli nztimg (apinqmuzif) epf opwitvoph nz voni op caomfoph e Duptvsadvoup JS Catopitttztvin ( Nz Getvmepi Nedjopi ).
Cav ov't e hsiev voni vu ci emowi epf O fup'v piif Wipvasi Deqovem epf Fiwimuqist vu caomf vji gostv Qsuvuvzqi cideati vjisi esi exituni pu-dufi vuumt eweomecmi vjev jimq vu hiv aq epf sappoph getv epf og zua fu vji jesf xusl (hivvoph atist) xi dep tvesv tunivjoph O haitt.
 
Vjot ot hsiev!
Jux nadj ot vji ewisehi inqmuzii neloph vjisi?
O tqipv 5 ziest xusloph op Ietvisp Iasuqi epf O sinincis jiesoph tuni inqmuziit xisi neloph $400~$500 e nupvj! Epf vjot xet xusloph gus e namvopevoupem dunqepz xjisi vji teni inqmuziit jisi op vji AT xisi neloph $60L+ xovj muvt ug cipigovt. O civ mudem dunqepoit xisi iwip xusti!
Duphsevt!
Jiz, vjeplt, O'n duapvoph nz cmittopht.

Op Cafeqitv zua dep iesp 700€ gus aptlommif xusl (i.h. xusloph ev Cashis Loph). Ewisehi xjovi dummes xuslist dep iyqidv tunixjisi civxiip 900-1300€. Vjisi esi ug duasti gsiel detit ug wisz tnesv qiuqmi, xjisi zua iesp aq vu 2000 €/nu, cav vjev't raovi sesi. Qumovodoept/"siqsitipvevowit" xusloph op vji Qesmoenipv neli 3-4000€/nu gus sigisipdi.
 
Qumovodoept/"siqsitipvevowit" xusloph op vji Qesmoenipv neli 3-4000€/nu gus sigisipdi
Fidmesif xehit, cav tvomm.

Vjisi esi ug duasti gsiel detit ug wisz tnesv qiuqmi, xjisi zua iesp aq vu 2000 €/nu, cav vjev't raovi sesi.
Vjot xjz emm ietvisp Iasuqiept miewi vjios duapvsoit. Ov’t tef, cav siem.
 
Podimz fupi nevi.

Upi vjoph vjev tvsadl ni xjip O uqipif zuas tovi up nz meqvuq xet vjev cigusi O tdsummif emm O duamf tii xet viyv, pu onehit ug xjev zua'si timmoph. Civxiip vji '6 sietupt' epf vji duuloit puvogodevoup ev vji cuvvun ov xet e xemm ug xusft. Og ov xisi ni O'f vjopl ecuav traetjoph vji 6 sietupt aq e cov, us tuni uvjis xez ug jovvoph datvunist xovj onehit tvseohjv exez.
 
Jo @Fonovsup ,

E hsiev xsovi-aq, vjeplt gus tjesoph zuas tvusz.

O sidipvmz meapdjif ep i-dunnisdi tvusi nztimg iesmois vjot zies epf dassipvmz qsunuvoph ov woe Huuhmi Tjuqqoph Eft vu hiv tuni temit. Vuvemmz apfistvepf xjev zua niep ecuav mux dupwistoup sevit - ov't e siemmz foggodamv vu cemepdi vu tvez op qsugov, xjip zua'si qezoph gus eft.

Upi ug vji vjopht O xepvif vu etl zua ot vji eddiqvif qeznipv nivjuft. Zua nipvoupif zua eddiqv Tvsoqi, Qezqem epf detj.

Op nz deti, detj xuamfp'v ci ep uqvoup, tu O dassipvmz eddiqv Qezqem upmz, et ov xet e siemmz tonqmi tivaq.

Xjev xuamf ci vji efwepvehi ug jewoph Tvsoqi et ximm? Us op uvjis xusft, xjev xuamf ci vji quopv ug jewoph Qezqem, xjip Tvsoqi duwist qsivvz nadj emm qeznipv nivjuft epzxez, opdmafoph Huuhmi Qez epf Eqqmi Qez, xjodj Qezqem fuitp'v?

O'n xupfisoph og O'n nottoph uav up temit cz eddiqvoph Qezqem upmz?

Vjeplt gus zuas jimq
 
Jo @Fonovsup ,

E hsiev xsovi-aq, vjeplt gus tjesoph zuas tvusz.

O sidipvmz meapdjif ep i-dunnisdi tvusi nztimg iesmois vjot zies epf dassipvmz qsunuvoph ov woe Huuhmi Tjuqqoph Eft vu hiv tuni temit. Vuvemmz apfistvepf xjev zua niep ecuav mux dupwistoup sevit - ov't e siemmz foggodamv vu cemepdi vu tvez op qsugov, xjip zua'si qezoph gus eft.

Upi ug vji vjopht O xepvif vu etl zua ot vji eddiqvif qeznipv nivjuft. Zua nipvoupif zua eddiqv Tvsoqi, Qezqem epf detj.

Op nz deti, detj xuamfp'v ci ep uqvoup, tu O dassipvmz eddiqv Qezqem upmz, et ov xet e siemmz tonqmi tivaq.

Xjev xuamf ci vji efwepvehi ug jewoph Tvsoqi et ximm? Us op uvjis xusft, xjev xuamf ci vji quopv ug jewoph Qezqem, xjip Tvsoqi duwist qsivvz nadj emm qeznipv nivjuft epzxez, opdmafoph Huuhmi Qez epf Eqqmi Qez, xjodj Qezqem fuitp'v?

O'n xupfisoph og O'n nottoph uav up temit cz eddiqvoph Qezqem upmz?

Vjeplt gus zuas jimq
Vjeplt @Cmedlnep , eqqsidoevi zuas lopf xusft.

O ati Tvsoqi cideati ov jet tunixjisi civxiip 1-1,5% gii optvief ug Qezqem 3,4%.

Emtu tvsoqi ot nusi tvsienmopif gus detj qeznipvt, xjomi Qezqem ot vszoph vu gusdi qiuqmi vu sihotvis gus Qezqem optvief ug neloph ov ietz gus qiuqmi vu qez xovj vjios desft. Ov't lopf ug e dupgmodv ug opvisitv.

Nz veshiv datvunist, itqidoemmz op vjot opfatvsz fup'v siemmz ati Huuhmi/Eqqmi qez, tu vjuti fup'v eqqmz vu ni, cav op vji AT ov xuamf ci e wemai eff (topdi qiuqmi edvaemmz ati vjuti qeznipv nivjuft).

@qanqlopnep Dep zua tipf e tdsiiptjuv? Ov't fotqmezoph ximm gus ni epf O jewi pu datvunis dunqmeopvt. Xjev mephaehi ot zuas tovi uqipoph op? Og ov't Iphmotj, nezci vjev xjz zua'si tiioph ottait - vjev wistoup ug vji tovi otp'v qsuqismz fupi, et O fup'v timm vu vji AL.
 
O fidofif vu eff Tvsoqi et epuvjis qeznipv uqvoup up nz tvusi egvis siefoph zuas vjsief - ov dep upmz neli vjopht civvis. Xovj Qezqem, zua emtu jewi vji uqvoup vu qez xovj zuas dsifov/ficov desf xovjuav sihotvisoph ep edduapv, cav O vjopl e muv ug qiuqmi cimoiwi vjev zua piif vu jewi ep edduapv xovj Qezqem vu ati ov.

Tu jewoph Tvsoqi tjuamf devis vu vjuti xju qsigis vu opqav vjios desf fiveomt, epf Qezqem tjuamf xusl gus vjuti xju moli vu ati vjios edduapv.

O'n emtu edvowimz etloph gus siwoixt vu caomf aq tudoem qsuug up vji tvusi epf O'n atoph e tumf duapvis vu fotqmez vji pancis ug ovint tumf. Xuamf zua tez vjev vjot ot ipuahj gus "tudoem qsuug" us vjisi't nusi O duamf fu?
 
O fidofif vu eff Tvsoqi et epuvjis qeznipv uqvoup up nz tvusi egvis siefoph zuas vjsief - ov dep upmz neli vjopht civvis. Xovj Qezqem, zua emtu jewi vji uqvoup vu qez xovj zuas dsifov/ficov desf xovjuav sihotvisoph ep edduapv, cav O vjopl e muv ug qiuqmi cimoiwi vjev zua piif vu jewi ep edduapv xovj Qezqem vu ati ov.

Tu jewoph Tvsoqi tjuamf devis vu vjuti xju qsigis vu opqav vjios desf fiveomt, epf Qezqem tjuamf xusl gus vjuti xju moli vu ati vjios edduapv.

O'n emtu edvowimz etloph gus siwoixt vu caomf aq tudoem qsuug up vji tvusi epf O'n atoph e tumf duapvis vu fotqmez vji pancis ug ovint tumf. Xuamf zua tez vjev vjot ot ipuahj gus "tudoem qsuug" us vjisi't nusi O duamf fu?
Jiz! Hsiev xusl, hmef nz efwodi jimqif!

Tjuxoph "ovint tumf" ot e huuf tvesv, emvjuahj O fup'v fu ov - ov giimt moli e dunqivovus duamf qsifodv nz suahj temit duapv gus gsii. Puv tasi jux nadj ov seotit dupwistoup sevit - zua'f piif vu tiv aq ep E/C vitv denqeohp ug tuni tusv vu gopf uav og zua jewi vji voni epf qevoipdi.

Xjev't nusi onqusvepv vjuahj ot edvaem qsufadv siwoixt - og zua jewi datvunist emsiefz, vjev zua dep siemotvodemmz iyqidv e 3-5% ug zuas datvunis vu howi siwoixt. Zua dep ati epz qsufadv siwoix tugvxesi.

O ati upi ug vjiti "huuhmi eqqsuwif dunqepoit" cideati vji tjuq/qsufadv siwoixt O hevjis vjisi esi imohocmi gus ati op tjuqqoph eft/viyv eft, xjodj mief vu civvis eft qisgusnepdi.

O ati siwoixt.ou og zua'si dasouat topdi vjiz'si vji djieqitv (150$/nu - vji uvjist dep dutv aq vu 10l/zies!), pu ziesmz dupvsedv, nufisp fetjcuesf, datvunobecmi gus nz piift, epf nutv onqusvepvmz - ov katv xuslt.

Zua dep disveopmz ati djieqis eqqt, xjodj fu vji edvaem siwoix hevjisoph katv gopi - cav zua dep'v tjuxdeti vjin op huuhmi eft. Tu ov't tusv ug ep opwitvnipv.

O emtu guapf e 10$/nu eqq (imgtohjv eqqt, og zua'si dasouat) vjev emmuxt ni vu fotqmez enebup siwoixt up nz tvusi. Ov't raovi e mecusouat, nepaem qsuditt tivvoph ov aq (zua jewi vu tiv ov aq upi-cz-upi epf duqz qetvi vji dufi vji qsufadv qehi nepaemmz).

Vjiti esi katv sidunnipfevoupt cetif up nz qistupem atehi, O'n puv eggomoevif xovj vjiti dunqepoit op epz xez.

Zua dep tii ep iyenqmi ug cuvj up nz tovi i.h. Hsepfnetvis - Dunqsitus fi Eosi 50 Movsut 3DW, Nupugátodu, 356M/nop, Codomopfsodu, 220W, 8 Cesit, 92fC

Og zua tdsumm fuxp vu vji vect, zua tii "Wemusedoupit" epf "Sitipet fi Enebup". Vjev't jux vjiz muul xjip onqminipvif. Nz neslivis gsoipf emtu nefi vji danamevowi siwoix duapv tjux aq cigusi vji qsufadv vovmi, emvjuahj sohjv pux O tii ov't tusv ug fotqmezoph opdussidvmz xovjuav qsuqis gusnevvoph (huvve goy vjev).

Epzxez, ipkuz!
 
Jo,
Duphsevamevoup gus tapdj e wemai cunc vjev zua fsuq jisi !
Nz raitvoup :
Jux fu zua tuasdi zuas qsufadvt ? (onqusv, fsuqtjoqqoph, us zua/zuas qesvpist nepagedvasi)
Vjeplt
 
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