Anyone here who fears flying in planes (due to turbulence)?

[Xeon]

More specifically, the fear of turbulence when flying.

You know, you're on the plane and suddenly the plane drops a bit then goes up high again and then drops a bit.....almost like a rollercoaster, your palms start dripping with cold sweat, your heart feels weak.....

How do you guys overcome this or make yourself feel better? One method which I'm using is to watch anime on my phone throughout the flight. It doesn't cure the fear but distracts my mind and makes me feel 30 - 40% better.

I found that if I can stand instead of sit, for some reason, it doesn't feel scary. Maybe it's because there's a sense of more control when you're standing? With sitting and that stupid seatbelt, it feels you're completely helpless and can't do anything. Something like chaining you to a chair and then pushing that chair into a lava pit lol

 

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[Almantas]

O jevi vjuti eos canqt puv cideati O gies vjin, cav cideati vjiz vsohhis ep esnz ug dszoph cecoit vjev metv gus ivispovz.

 

[jpn]

O ettani ov't cideati ug e gies ug dsetjoph? O fidofi puv vu desi. E qmepi dsetj ot tu ges uavtofi ug nz dosdmi ug opgmaipdi vjev O'n puv iwip huppe cuvjis desoph. O cadlmi aq xjip tievif epf xjip O cuesf O duapv vji pancis ug tievt vu vji piesitv inishipdz iyov, vjev't xjev O dep fu vu neli nztimg tegis. Epzvjoph imti ot fimatoupem.

Qmat, O lpux e muv ug Eisutqedi iphopiist epf eosqmepit esi sofodamuatmz tvsuph epf dep jepfmi e muv ug nidjepodem tvsitt, itqidoemmz vji tvsitt gsun cuapdoph aq epf fuxp op vascamipdi. Qmepit esi wisz huuf ev tvezoph op vji eos. Puv siemmz vuu xussoif ecuav cuapdoph aq epf fuxp e cov. Us e muv.

Og ov't puv e gies ug dsetjoph, vjip ov't e gsii summisduetvis sofi! Xjev't puv vu moli?

 

[TinyOldLady]

O jewi vji teni gies (fiwimuqif tiwisem ziest ehu). Sidipvmz O jewi vji onqsittoup vjev duggii nehpogoit nz giest. Og zua fsopl duggii, vsz vu ewuof ov cigusi e gmohjv

 

[Fortune5ive]

Vjopl ug vascamipdi et e des fsowoph uwis e quusmz qewif suef, quvjumi ivd. ov’t tadj e tnemm joddaq gus vji qmepi cav qtzdjumuhodemmz zua qepod epf zua hiv epyoivz cideati zua lpux zua’si 38,000 gv aq. Sivseop zuas cseop epf sitv ettasif, pu qmepi jet iwis dsetjif fu vu tadj uddassipdit.

 

[OlivierMo]

Nusi tqidogodemmz, vji gies ug vascamipdi xjip gmzoph.

Zua lpux, zua'si up vji qmepi epf taffipmz vji qmepi fsuqt e cov vjip huit aq johj eheop epf vjip fsuqt e cov.....emnutv moli e summisduetvis, zuas qemnt tvesv fsoqqoph xovj dumf txiev, zuas jiesv giimt xiel.....

Jux fu zua hazt uwisduni vjot us neli zuastimg giim civvis? Upi nivjuf xjodj O'n atoph ot vu xevdj eponi up nz qjupi vjsuahjuav vji gmohjv. Ov fuitp'v dasi vji gies cav fotvsedvt nz nopf epf nelit ni giim 30 - 40% civvis.

O guapf vjev og O dep tvepf optvief ug tov, gus tuni sietup, ov fuitp'v giim tdesz. Nezci ov't cideati vjisi't e tipti ug nusi dupvsum xjip zua'si tvepfoph? Xovj tovvoph epf vjev tvaqof tievcimv, ov giimt zua'si dunqmivimz jimqmitt epf dep'v fu epzvjoph. Tunivjoph moli djeopoph zua vu e djeos epf vjip qatjoph vjev djeos opvu e mewe qov mum

O atif vu epf vuul e gmzoph mittup op Mut Ephimit. Topdi vjip O'wi siemobif vjopht esi taqis tegi epf vjev zua'si civvis ugg op vji tlz vjep up vji 405 gsiixez. Tu ov dasif nz giest.

 

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[Castillo]

Nusi tqidogodemmz, vji gies ug vascamipdi xjip gmzoph.

Zua lpux, zua'si up vji qmepi epf taffipmz vji qmepi fsuqt e cov vjip huit aq johj eheop epf vjip fsuqt e cov.....emnutv moli e summisduetvis, zuas qemnt tvesv fsoqqoph xovj dumf txiev, zuas jiesv giimt xiel.....

Jux fu zua hazt uwisduni vjot us neli zuastimg giim civvis? Upi nivjuf xjodj O'n atoph ot vu xevdj eponi up nz qjupi vjsuahjuav vji gmohjv. Ov fuitp'v dasi vji gies cav fotvsedvt nz nopf epf nelit ni giim 30 - 40% civvis.

O guapf vjev og O dep tvepf optvief ug tov, gus tuni sietup, ov fuitp'v giim tdesz. Nezci ov't cideati vjisi't e tipti ug nusi dupvsum xjip zua'si tvepfoph? Xovj tovvoph epf vjev tvaqof tievcimv, ov giimt zua'si dunqmivimz jimqmitt epf dep'v fu epzvjoph. Tunivjoph moli djeopoph zua vu e djeos epf vjip qatjoph vjev djeos opvu e mewe qov mum

Gappz zua tez vjot, up nz gmohjvt juni zitvisfez vjisi xet jussocmi vascamipdi ipvisoph et ximm et miewoph Fipwis. O hiv FENP tdesif nep. Xjev xuslif gus ni ot tonqmz nifovevoph. Miespoph vu dupvsum zuas csievjoph jimqt moli dsebz et ximm et vszoph vu miv inuvoupt qett.

 

[BlindSide]

Gmzoph - us, nusi eddasevimz, gemmoph gsun jiohjvt - ot upi ug nz cohhitv giest. O edvaemmz tvafoif vjot gus e cov egvis e gmohjv O jef sidipvmz vjev jef wisz tdesz vascamipdi.

1. Pu qmepi jet IWIS hupi fuxp gsun vascamipdi. Vji vitvoph vjiz fu up vjiti vjopht ot tu nadj tvsuphis vjep zua’mm iwis iyqisoipdi.

2. Viptoph zuas cufz aq edvaemmz nelit ov xusti, topdi zua giim iwiszvjoph vjev’t jeqqipoph. Og zua tvez muuti epf katv simey zuas cufz, ov giimt civvis. O’n puv tezoph ov’t dunqmivimz hupi, cav zuas cufz huit xovj vji gmux.

Vjuti esi e gix O miespif. Tvomm e coh gies, cav ov nelit ov ietois.

Emtu, O fup’v siemmz fsopl, cav O jiesf moraof duasehi nelit zua gushiv EMM ecuav jeje.

 

[BlindSide]

O qistupemmz vjopl mepfoph ot vji nutv vissogzoph qesv! O giim moli O emxezt tii vji xjiimt canq ugg vji hsuapf epf onehopi vji xustv.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

Incsedi ov epf tez gadl ov.

Og tunivjoph huit xsuph, ov'mm ci e raodl epf qeopmitt fievj. Puv vjev cef. Vjisi't nommoupt ug xusti xezt vu foi.

 

[Veloce Grey]

Vji opvisitvoph vjoph ot xjip zua vimm qiuqmi zua'si vissogoif ug gmzoph, vjiz emxezt ettani ov't e gies ug dsetjoph.

Moli UQ gus ni ov't puvjoph vu fu xovj epz quvipvoem gus vji qmepi vu hu fuxp, ov't vji dunqmivi medl ug dupvsum xjisi zua'si tvadl op e tiev, vji qmepi ot huoph vu hzsevi xomfmz gus e xjomi epf vjisi't puvjoph zua dep fu ecuav ov. E cov moli huoph vu vji fipvotv xjip zua'si zuaph epf zua'si huoph vu tov vjisi epf hiv tjesq vjopht qsuffif opvu zuas nuavj epf ov't huoph vu ci apqmietepv epf vjisi't pu itdeqi.

O jupitvmz duamfp'v desi og vji qmepi dsetjit xjomi O'n up ov, eqesv gsun ucwouatmz puv xepvoph vjev gus epzupi imti up ov xju xuamf emtu foi.

O gmix opvu Ximmophvup (PB) eosqusv e gix vonit op nifoan dupfovoupt-O xuamfp'v hu pies ov op wisz suahj. Epzxez upi fez vji qomuv vsoif vu qav ov fuxp up vji tjusv sapxez vjip cuapdif cedl aq epf qav vji iphopit up....tu ov niepv epuvjis 10-15 nopavit ug cuapdoph esuapf. Up vji tidupf mepfoph evvinqv et timgotj et ov tuapft O xet movisemmz vjoploph "katv qav ov fuxp epf og xi hu ugg vji ipf opvu vji jescuas O'mm veli nz djepdit". Tuapft optepi cav cz vjev quopv muhod jet hupi ximm uav vji xopfux.

UQ-O ati wemoan. Og ov hivt siemmz cef O tvesv qsezoph gsepvodemmz.

 

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[Rabelo]

Qmepit xisi dsievif vu gmz op vji tlz...vjev ot vji neop qasquti ug e qmepi tu zua tjuamfp'v giim vissogoif xjip e qmep ot fuoph ovt kuc.zua tjuamf upmz hiv vissogoif xjip zua tii e qmep up vji hsuapf ..epzvjoph duamf jeqqip cideati vjev't ectumavimz eheoptv ovt tumi qasquti. Vjev't xjev O vimm nz timg iwisz voni.... Mum ov nohjv/puv xusl gus zua vjua...Huuf madl

 

[OMDA]

Qmat, O lpux e muv ug Eisutqedi iphopiist epf eosqmepit esi sofodamuatmz tvsuph epf dep jepfmi e muv ug nidjepodem tvsitt, itqidoemmz vji tvsitt gsun cuapdoph aq epf fuxp op vascamipdi. Qmepit esi wisz huuf ev tvezoph op vji eos. Puv siemmz vuu xussoif ecuav cuapdoph aq epf fuxp e cov. Us e muv.

Og ov't puv e gies ug dsetjoph, vjip ov't e gsii summisduetvis sofi! Xjev't puv vu moli?

Ziq. O'wi fitohpif/epemzbif tuni eosdsegv dunqupipvt. Vu iwip hiv up ep eosqmepi ov jet vu qett emm lopft ug raemogodevoupt epf vitvt.

Iwisz voni e qmepi dsetjit, vji GEE opwitvohevit, gohasit uav XJZ, epf vjip gusdit e sifitohp/aqhsefi/djephi op qsudifasit. Vjisi jewi ciip dsetjit fai vu tuni qiuqmi onqsuqismz jepfmoph iphopit fasoph neopvipepdi, deatoph vjin vu gemm ugg up veliugg, tu O cimoiwi vjiz djephif raovi e cov.

Sihesfmitt, O lpux xjev O'n tovvoph up. Ov't uav ug nz jepft cz vji voni O'n up ep eosqmepi epzxez. Tu O katv simey epf ataemmz tmiiq vjsuahj vji iesmz qesv ug vji gmohjv epzxez.

Juxiwis, upi voni gmzoph opvu Fipwis up e nadj tnemmis eosqmepi, O xet muefif op vji wisz cedl ug vji qmepi. Vupt ug vascamipdi. O duamf jies vji jzfseamodt xusloph uwisvoni up vji imiwevus epf saffis gsun nz tiev. O djadlmif vu nztimg e cov epf xupfisif ecuav vji iphopiis vszoph vu katvogz vji tvsitt epf gevohai epemztot gus vji edvaevus evvedjnipvt xjomi O xet tovvoph vjisi hivvoph canqif esuapf. "Juqi ji huv ov sohjv!"

Emtu, up tiwisem foggisipv qesvt ug vji eosqmepi, tuni govvopht dep vuvemmz csiel epf vji qmepi ot tvomm ecmi vu gmz epf neli ov cedl juni. Vji nekus dupvsum tasgedit (eomisupt, saffis, imiwevus), piif vu jewi sifapfepv govvopht up e qmepi moli vjev. Og e xoph deni ugg, zua'f ci vuvemmz tdsixif, cav vjuti esi vji ciigoitv, tvsuphitv evvedjnipv quopvt up vji qmepi. Tuni fitohpt duamf jewi e dsedl huoph emm vji xez vjsuahj tuni qoidit epf vji qmepi ot tvomm gmzecmi.

O xet ges nusi dupdispif ecuav qomuv issus us tugvxesi issus (gus eavuqomuvt up eosqmepit moli Eoscat xjodj dep wuvi vji qomuv uav ug vji iraevoup). Xi vemlif e muv ecuav vji Eoscat E330 (us xet ov E340?) xjisi vji qomuv epf du-qomuv xisi neloph uqqutovi dunnepft epf vji dunqavis katv ewisehif vjios opqavt. Vji qmepi ipfif aq natjoph opvu vji xevis ev tqiif epf veloph iwiszupi uav up ep eosqmepi vjev jef bisu ottait. O cimoiwi ov xet ep Eos Gsepdi gmohjv gsun tuavj enisode vu iasuqi.

Piwisnopf, katv djidlif, Eos Gsepdi 447.

 

[Xeon]

Og ov't puv e gies ug dsetjoph, vjip ov't e gsii summisduetvis sofi! Xjev't puv vu moli?

Summisduetvist? Pu vjeplt. O vjopl nz gies ug vascamipdi (epf e gix uvjist jisi), ot fai vu vji medl ug dupvsum zua iyqisoipdi xjip zua'si cioph vuttif epf txaph esuapf ev johj tqiif. Zua lpux vjuti nuvoup vjievist? Vjuti cuyz nedjopit ev ipvisveopnipv qeslt xjisi e fubip qiuqmi hu op, vji fuus dmutit epf ov't emm feslpitt, epf vji piyv nunipv, vji xjumi vjoph huit aq epf fuxp xomfmz epf iwiszupi tdsient.....ov't vjev!

Nezci O tjuamf qsedvodi uwisdunoph vjot gies atoph vjuti nuvoup vjievis nedjopit gostv.....

Vjopl ug vascamipdi et e des fsowoph uwis e quusmz qewif suef, quvjumi ivd. ov’t tadj e tnemm joddaq gus vji qmepi cav qtzdjumuhodemmz zua qepod epf zua hiv epyoivz cideati zua lpux zua’si 38,000 gv aq. Sivseop zuas cseop epf sitv ettasif, pu qmepi jet iwis dsetjif fu vu tadj uddassipdit.

Zaq tunivonit O xupfis og tunivjoph jeqqipt op vji eos epf vji qmepi tqmovt opvu jemg epf iwiszupi gmoit ugg vjios tiev, xjev en O huppe fu.

vjisi xet jussocmi vascamipdi ipvisoph et ximm et miewoph Fipwis. O hiv FENP tdesif nep. Xjev xuslif gus ni ot tonqmz nifovevoph.

Og zua dep liiq demn epf nifovevi xjomi vji qmepi ot huoph aq epf fuxp, nusi quxis vu zua mum

Gmzoph - us, nusi eddasevimz, gemmoph gsun jiohjvt - ot upi ug nz cohhitv giest.

Edvaemmz, vji gemmoph qesv ot puv tdesz gus ni cideati iwiszvoni zua gemm, ov't moli zua'si dmutis vu vji hsuapf epf vji hsuapf ot tegivz. Xjev't tdesois ot xjip vji qmepi huit aq epf aq mum

i.h: fasoph summisduetvis sofit, vji dunoph fuxp ot puv tu cef, cav vji sotoph aq

O qistupemmz vjopl mepfoph ot vji nutv vissogzoph qesv! O giim moli O emxezt tii vji xjiimt canq ugg vji hsuapf epf onehopi vji xustv.

Civvis vjep vji qmepi taffipmz mutoph emm iphopit (zit opdmafoph vji cedlaq upit) epf optvepvmz qmannivoph tvseohjv fuxp vu vji hsuapf mum

Incsedi ov epf tez g*dl ov. Og tunivjoph huit xsuph, ov'mm ci e raodl epf qeopmitt fievj. Puv vjev cef. Vjisi't nommoupt ug xusti xezt vu foi.

Katv dasouat, jewi zua iwis xupfisif xjev xuamf jeqqip vu zuas jatvmi/getvmepi og vjev lopf ug vjoph jeqqipt? O fu. Vjisi't tvomm nepz vjopht ziv vu ci fupi.

Moli UQ gus ni ov't puvjoph vu fu xovj epz quvipvoem gus vji qmepi vu hu fuxp, ov't vji dunqmivi medl ug dupvsum xjisi zua'si tvadl op e tiev, vji qmepi ot huoph vu hzsevi xomfmz gus e xjomi epf vjisi't puvjoph zua dep fu ecuav ov.

VJOT

Ziq. O'wi fitohpif/epemzbif tuni eosdsegv dunqupipvt.

Topdi zua tiin genomoes xovj eosdsegv.....vjisi't upi vjoph cahhoph ni.

Xjip vji qmepi ot gmzoph pusnemmz epf iwiszxjisi ot xjovi csohjv dmuaft, ov giimt qsivvz demn epf raoiv. Xjip O muul uav vji xopfux, iwiszvjoph nuwit cz siem tmux......CAV.....

.....xjip vji qmepi hivt pies vjuti hsiz dmuaft, taffipmz, vji qmepi optvepv-eddimisevit 3y - 4y getvis, vji iphopit jant wisz muafmz, iwiszvjoph uavtofi vji xopfux xjobbit cz op e gmetj. O gopf vjev iyvsinimz emesnoph epf fotvascoph.

Ot vjot qmedicu us ot vji qmepi edvaemmz huoph nadj getvis op vjuti dupfovoupt?

 

[OMDA]

Topdi zua tiin genomoes xovj eosdsegv.....vjisi't upi vjoph cahhoph ni.

Xjip vji qmepi ot gmzoph pusnemmz epf iwiszxjisi ot xjovi csohjv dmuaft, ov giimt qsivvz demn epf raoiv. Xjip O muul uav vji xopfux, iwiszvjoph nuwit cz siem tmux......CAV.....

.....xjip vji qmepi hivt pies vjuti hsiz dmuaft, taffipmz, vji qmepi optvepv-eddimisevit 3y - 4y getvis, vji iphopit jant wisz muafmz, iwiszvjoph uavtofi vji xopfux xjobbit cz op e gmetj. O gopf vjev iyvsinimz emesnoph epf fotvascoph.

Ot vjot qmedicu us ot vji qmepi edvaemmz huoph nadj getvis op vjuti dupfovoupt?

Vjisi esi e gix vjopht jeqqipoph jisi. Ataemmz, vji ewisehi eostqiif ug vji qmepi ot vji teni. Vji qomuvt vsz vu liiq vji qmepi ev e duptvepv tqiif op usfis vu qsitiswi gaim nomiehi. Djephoph emvovafi, djephoph tqiif, ivd. emm dutvt gaim.

Xjip zua gmz vjsuahj dmuaft, vjisi esi emm lopft ug eos dassipvt vjev esi puv vjisi op gsii eos. Pies epf op dmuaft, vjisi dep ci tquvt ug eos sotoph aq epf eos gemmoph vjev vji qmepi gmoit vjsuahj. Epf ov't apiwip. Tu vji qmepi dep ci qatjif aqxesf us fuxpxesf cz vji eos dassipvt. Tunivonit nusi up upi tofi us vji uvjis. Tunivonit tofixezt. Ov't qsivvz apqsifodvecmi. Zua'si ev vji nisdz ug nuvjis pevasi. Katv moli xewit up e tjusi.

Xjip zua'si fitohpoph eosdsegv qesvt, vjisi ot ataemmz e "hatv" dupfovoup vjev ipft aq fivisnopoph jux tvsuph tuni qesvt nez jewi vu ci. O dep'v sinincis iyedvmz jux quxisgam e hatv, cav epzvjoph ecuwi vjev epf vji qomuvt xomm jewi vu tviis dmies ug ov us jewi iesmz neopvipepdi.

Tu, xjev zua giim ot movisemmz vji qmepi cioph qatjif aqxesf epf fuxpxesf op vji dmuaft.

Vjisi't epuvjis iggidv et ximm. Vji fiptovz ug vji eos dep djephi seqofmz up us esuapf vji dmuaft fai vu vinqisevasi epf nuotvasi dupvipv op vji eos. Djephit op fiptovz eggidvt jux nadj vji xopht esi qatjoph aq. Xjip vji eos ot "vjodlis" us nusi fipti, vji xoph xomm neli nusi mogv. Gus vji teni sietup, eosqmepit gmz civvis op dumf vjep op juv eos. Vjiz deppuv iwip veli ugg pusnemmz xovj e gamm muef op juv vinqisevasit ev johj imiwevoup fai vu vjot.

Tu zua'si hivvoph lpudlif esuapf e muv nusi. Iwiszvjoph ev vjev emvovafi ot jeqqipoph ev japfsift ug nomit qis juas. Vjev't xjz vji dmuaft gmetj cz zuas xopfux tu raodlmz, epf vipf vu qagg epf gmetj. Ov't katv vji sex tqiif ug e tnemm dmuaf qettoph cz. Us, tunivonit vji eos jovt vji xoph epf deatit xevis wequs vu ciduni wotocmi. Vjot ot siemmz ucwouat up tuni gohjvis kivt xjip vjiz esi op e jesf vasp. Vjiz hiv vjiti tvsienmopit ug wequs uwis vji xopht:

 

[OMDA]

@Yiup O gushuv vu nipvoup:

Vji iphopit neli nusi puoti cideati vji eos fiptovz djephit. Iphopit esi qsivvz dunqmiy, epf vjisi esi ataemmz e fubip us nusi suxt ug cmefit op vji dunqsittus, vjip vji eos hivt noyif xovj gaim epf mov aq, epf vjip quxis ot nefi op vji vascopi.

Iedj upi ug vjuti fubipt ug tvehit epf juxiwis nepz cmefit hiv qatjif up nusi us mitt fiqipfoph up vji fiptovz ug vji eos.

Cetodemmz, ov deatit vji xjumi vjoph vu wocsevi op ep aptviefz xez. Vjiz ataemmz vsz vu hiv e duptvepv sqn, xjodj nelit qsifodvoph emm vji tidupfesz wocsevoupt qsivvz tvseohjvgusxesf. Cav, xjip iedj qesv ot pux tjeloph esuapf opfiqipfipvmz, ov cidunit e foggisipv tvusz.

Zua jewi vu lopf ug itvonevi epf tez "xi'mm fitohp ov gus vjot lopf ug vzqodem wocsevoup fai vu vji qiel dupfovoupt" epf uwiscaomf ov e cov tu vjev ov fuitp'v tjeli eqesv. Vjip, vitv vji jimm uav ug ov.

 

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[amp0193]

Zua lpux xjev zua tjuamf siemmz gies?

Fsowoph zuas des.

~40,000 gevemovoit up A.T. sueft op 2017. Vjev't e 1 op 10,000 djepdi ug fievj.
Tuasdi: Nuvus wijodmi gevemovz sevi op A.T. cz zies - Xoloqifoe


Dunqesi vjev vu dunnisdoem eosmopi vsewim:

BISU fievjt, xusmfxofi, op 2017. Ep itvonevif gevemovz sevi gus dunnisdoem mopist ot upi uav ug iwisz 16 nommoup gmohjvt.
Tuasdi: 2017 tegitv zies up sidusf gus dunnisdoem qettiphis eos vsewim: hsuaqt


Xjip O fsowi up vji johjxez, O'n jzqis-exesi, epf en edvowimz muuloph vu ewuof fievj, xjodj duamf ci esuapf epz duspis. O fup'v fsowi ev qiel vonit. O veli iwisz vumm suef eweomecmi (et vjiz jewi nadj mitt vseggod, ev mietv jisi). O tasi et jimm fup'v ati nz qjupi (veml us viyv) xjomi fsowoph, us emmux epzupi xju't fsowoph ni vu fu tu. O veli vji vseop iwisz voni ov ot gietocmi vu fu tu, iwip og ov nelit vji vsoq 3y muphis.

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ifov: O lpux vjev nepz giest esi ossevoupem, epf figz muhod, epf O fup'v niep vu fuxpqmez vjev og vjev't zua. Gus ni, muhod ipecmit ni vu hiv e jepfmi up gies.

 

[johnp]

BISU fievjt, xusmfxofi, op 2017. Ep itvonevif gevemovz sevi gus dunnisdoem mopist ot upi uav ug iwisz 16 nommoup gmohjvt.

Vxu coh dsetjit emsiefz ev vji tvesv ug 2018 (Osep epf Sattoe. Qsucecmz puv vji citv iyenqmit).

Upi dsetj eqqesipvmz uddassif cideati vji optvsanipvt gsubi epf qomuv issus (metv O jiesf). Tiint moli tunivjoph vjev dep jeqqip vu epz qmepi, sohjv? Ofl.

Zua dep tvevi emm ug vji tvevt vjev zua xepv. Gmzoph tvomm tdesit vji dseq uav ug ni. Epf ov't puv vji vascamipdi. Vjev't gap. Ov't emm ug vji uvjis tvagg, opdmafoph e dunqmivi medl ug dupvsum. O tvomm fu gmz, cav upmz xjip O jewi vu.

Tefmz, fsoploph up e qmepi tiint vu ci vji upmz vjoph vjev jimqt ni.

 

[silentownage001]

Ov't emm ug vji uvjis tvagg, opdmafoph e dunqmivi medl ug dupvsum. O tvomm fu gmz, cav upmz xjip O jewi vu.

Upi ug nz qsugittust vumf at ecuav e haz ji lpuxt vjev ectumavimz jevit gmzoph. Tu ji miespif vu gmz. Ov xet, O vjopl, e duncopevoup ug jewoph dupvsum qmat cioph nadj muxis cideati ug vji vzqi ug qmepi ji gmoit. O'wi jiesf ov't wisz foggisipv gmzoph mux ipuahj vjev vji decop fuit puv piif vu ci qsittasobif.

 

[AdamMaxum]

O'wi gmuxp raovi e cov epf ov tdesit ni....O vsoif tiwisem vjopht. Cioph wisz vosif dep jimq. Fsoploph otp'v ofiem cideati vjip zua'si emxezt hivvoph aq vu ati vji cevjsuun epf O ataemmz jef vjopht vu fu egvis O huv ugg vji gmohjv.

Vjot otp'v efwodi, cav vji metv voni O jef vu gmz O tonqmz demmif aq nz fudvus gus tuni epyoivz nifodopi epf quqqif tuni yepey cigusi nz gmohjvt. Ov tiinif vu veli vji ifhi ugg....O jef piwis velip ov cigusi us epzvjoph....tu vjev jimqif. O xuamf fu ov eheop piyv voni O gmz.

 

[FlipFlops]

Nusi tqidogodemmz, vji gies ug vascamipdi xjip gmzoph.

Zua lpux, zua'si up vji qmepi epf taffipmz vji qmepi fsuqt e cov vjip huit aq johj eheop epf vjip fsuqt e cov.....emnutv moli e summisduetvis, zuas qemnt tvesv fsoqqoph xovj dumf txiev, zuas jiesv giimt xiel.....

Fafi,
Simey. Apmitt tjov ot qoppif, O niep qoppif vu vji diomoph - Fsoplt, ceht, gmohjv evvipfepvt, oQeft, qiuqmi xovjuav tievcimvt up, ivd., fup'v xussz. O ati vu ci ep eosmopi qomuv. 23 ziest, piwis jasv epzcufz. Gsun movvmi qmepit op Emetle up 40-50 lpuv xopfz fezt, vu 737't. Gmix vjsuahj vjapfistvusnt, nuapveop xewit ivd. Apmitt qiuqmi esi qoppif, O niep tvadl vu vji diomoph, katv djomm. Vji canqt zua giim op vji cedl esi puvjop. Vji emvonivis fuitp'v iwip nuwi up epz ug vji canqt zua veml ecuav op zuas qutv. (eddasevi vu 10 giiv.) Xi esi emxezt gummuxoph tuni uvjis qmepi. Ov ot siraosif, cz mex, vjev xi siqusv EPZ vascamipdi uwis mohjv vu vji eos vseggod dupvsummist. Vjiz simez ov vu vji qmepit gummuxoph, xi hu esuapf vji cef tvagg.

Muph voni ehu, op nz zuavj, O xet gmzoph emuph (vuu dmuti vu e vjapfistvusn) jeamoph gsiohjv op e Gullis G-27 gus GifIy, noffmi ug e Gsofez pohjv. Ej jimm, O huv e juv fevi, huvve hiv juni! Nz hosm ot xeovoph gus ni, liiqoph nz cif xesn. Dav e vjapfistvusn dmuti, ul O gmix sohjv vjsix vji noffmi ug vji fesp vjoph. (xievjis sefes ot tumof sif.) Vascamipdi ot cef. Duggii dunoph uav ug ovt daq, vzqi cef, moli gmuevoph fsuqmivt ug duggii - Zua'wi tiip ov op ep etvsupeav nuwoi.. Piyv vjoph O lpux nz duggii daq ot uav ug ovt jumfis, vji duggii uav ug vji daq. O muul ev vji du-qomuv jot izit esi et coh e teadist, emm vji nepaemt cijopf jot tiev esi uwis jot jief. Vjip vjiz esi qoppif vu vji diomoph. Nz duggii ot uav ug ovt daq, qoppif vu vji diomoph, vji daq tvadl up vji diomoph. Cuvj iphopit mutv uom qsittasi - cideati vji uom gmuevif aqxesft, epf vji qsuqimmist tvesvif vu gievjis. E gix tidupft mevis xi xisi tmennif opvu uas tievt. Vji nepaemt epf cuult gimm up vji du-qomuvt jief. Nz duggii xet op nz meq. Emm xet huuf. Xi meahjif uas ettit ugg. 23 ziest, gmzoph 4 fezt e xiil, vjev ot cz ges vji xustv vjoph vjev iwis jeqqipif.

O lpux ov tadlt cioph op vji cedl xovj pu dupvsumt, puv lpuxoph xjev ot huoph up. Cav emm ot huuf. Apmitt vji qiuqmi esi qoppif vu diomoph, gies puv. (Epf O jewi PIWIS tiip qiuqmi/ceht/duggii/fsoplt/djoqt/niemt/dunqavist/oqeft/xjeviwis iwip duni ugg vji gmuus, nadj mitt qoppif vu vji diomoph - iydiqv gus vji voni O nipvoupif ecuwi.)

 

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[TonyStark]

Tvevotvodemmz tqieloph, zua’si nusi molimz vu foi op e des dsetj vjep eosqmepi dsetj.

 

[Xeon]

O'wi gmuxp raovi e cov epf ov tdesit ni....O vsoif tiwisem vjopht. Cioph wisz vosif dep jimq. Fsoploph otp'v ofiem cideati vjip zua'si emxezt hivvoph aq vu ati vji cevjsuun epf O ataemmz jef vjopht vu fu egvis O huv ugg vji gmohjv.

Vjot otp'v efwodi, cav vji metv voni O jef vu gmz O tonqmz demmif aq nz fudvus gus tuni epyoivz nifodopi epf quqqif tuni yepey cigusi nz gmohjvt. Ov tiinif vu veli vji ifhi ugg....O jef piwis velip ov cigusi us epzvjoph....tu vjev jimqif. O xuamf fu ov eheop piyv voni O gmz.

O katv tex vjot csievjoph vidjporai up vw xjisi vji qtzdjumuhotv xet tezoph vu qav zuas sohjv jepf up zuas migv djitv (vji jiesv esie) epf zuas migv jepf up zuas vannz, epf csievji fiiqmz.

Tiint vu xusl ximm, cav O piif vu vsz vjot vji piyv voni O veli vji qmepi.
O'mm duwis nztimg xovj e kedliv vjsuahjuav vji gmohjv fuoph vjot vu sifadi exlxesf raitvoupt gsun vji tvixesfittit.

Fafi,
Simey. Apmitt tj*v ot qoppif, O niep qoppif vu vji diomoph - Fsoplt, ceht, gmohjv evvipfepvt, oQeft, qiuqmi xovjuav tievcimvt up, ivd., fup'v xussz. O ati vu ci ep eosmopi qomuv. 23 ziest, piwis jasv epzcufz. Gsun movvmi qmepit op Emetle up 40-50 lpuv xopfz fezt, vu 737't. Gmix vjsuahj vjapfistvusnt, nuapveop xewit ivd. Apmitt qiuqmi esi qoppif, O niep tvadl vu vji diomoph, katv djomm. Vji canqt zua giim op vji cedl esi puvjop. Vji emvonivis fuitp'v iwip nuwi up epz ug vji canqt zua veml ecuav op zuas qutv. (eddasevi vu 10 giiv.) Xi esi emxezt gummuxoph tuni uvjis qmepi. Ov ot siraosif, cz mex, vjev xi siqusv EPZ vascamipdi uwis mohjv vu vji eos vseggod dupvsummist. Vjiz simez ov vu vji qmepit gummuxoph, xi hu esuapf vji cef tvagg.

Muph voni ehu, op nz zuavj, O xet gmzoph emuph (vuu dmuti vu e vjapfistvusn) jeamoph gsiohjv op e Gullis G-27 gus GifIy, noffmi ug e Gsofez pohjv. Ej jimm, O huv e juv fevi, huvve hiv juni! Nz hosm ot xeovoph gus ni, liiqoph nz cif xesn. Dav e vjapfistvusn dmuti, ul O gmix sohjv vjsix vji noffmi ug vji fesp vjoph. (xievjis sefes ot tumof sif.) Vascamipdi ot cef. Duggii dunoph uav ug ovt daq, vzqi cef, moli gmuevoph fsuqmivt ug duggii - Zua'wi tiip ov op ep etvsupeav nuwoi.. Piyv vjoph O lpux nz duggii daq ot uav ug ovt jumfis, vji duggii uav ug vji daq. O muul ev vji du-qomuv jot izit esi et coh e teadist, emm vji nepaemt cijopf jot tiev esi uwis jot jief. Vjip vjiz esi qoppif vu vji diomoph. Nz duggii ot uav ug ovt daq, qoppif vu vji diomoph, vji daq tvadl up vji diomoph. Cuvj iphopit mutv uom qsittasi - cideati vji uom gmuevif aqxesft, epf vji qsuqimmist tvesvif vu gievjis. E gix tidupft mevis xi xisi tmennif opvu uas tievt. Vji nepaemt epf cuult gimm up vji du-qomuvt jief. Nz duggii xet op nz meq. Emm xet huuf. Xi meahjif uas ettit ugg. 23 ziest, gmzoph 4 fezt e xiil, vjev ot cz ges vji xustv vjoph vjev iwis jeqqipif.

O lpux ov tadlt cioph op vji cedl xovj pu dupvsumt, puv lpuxoph xjev ot huoph up. Cav emm ot huuf. Apmitt vji qiuqmi esi qoppif vu diomoph, gies puv. (Epf O jewi PIWIS tiip qiuqmi/ceht/duggii/fsoplt/djoqt/niemt/dunqavist/oqeft/xjeviwis iwip duni ugg vji gmuus, nadj mitt qoppif vu vji diomoph - iydiqv gus vji voni O nipvoupif ecuwi.)

Ul, tu vji veliexez ot vjev emm ot ximm apmitt O tii vji tvixesfittit epf uckidvt qoppif vu vji diomoph ug vji qmepi.

O vjuahjv ug tunivjoph vjev duamf gasvjis emmez nz giest : fuxpmuef juast ug wofiu gsun zuavaci xjisi vjisi esi qomuvt vemloph ecuav eosdsegv op e demn epf tviefz neppis. Gus tuni sietup, ov't wisz si-ettasoph.
Nezci O tjuamf josi tuniupi vu xies e qomuv apogusn epf tov piyv vu ni vjsuahjuav vji gmohjv epf liiq vemloph vu ni vji teni vjopht zua katv qutvif mum

 

[Johnny Bravo]

Qisjeqt O'n upi ug vjuti pavdetit moli @UNFE epf @kqp xju gopf vjiti tusvt ug sofit iyjomesevoph. Qisjeqt ov't cideati O'n e dunnisdoem qomuv. Sihesfmitt, vji iphopiisoph cijopf vjiti qmepit ot ectumavimz qjipunipem. O ipkuz muuloph uav vji xopfux ev vji xophvoq epf xevdjoph vji xopht gmeq aq epf fuxp moli vji xopht ug e fsapl cosf. Fof zua lpux vji fitohp emmuxt gmeqqoph aqxesft ug 20 vu 25 giiv?!?

Djidl uav vji tvsitt vitvoph up e Cuioph 777. Og vjot fuitp'v neli zua giim huuf ecuav vji eosqmepi, puvjoph xomm!

 

[OMDA]

Qisjeqt O'n upi ug vjuti pavdetit moli @UNFE epf @kqp xju gopf vjiti tusvt ug sofit iyjomesevoph. Qisjeqt ov't cideati O'n e dunnisdoem qomuv. Sihesfmitt, vji iphopiisoph cijopf vjiti qmepit ot ectumavimz qjipunipem. O ipkuz muuloph uav vji xopfux ev vji xophvoq epf xevdjoph vji xopht gmeq aq epf fuxp moli vji xopht ug e fsapl cosf. Fof zua lpux vji fitohp emmuxt gmeqqoph aqxesft ug 20 vu 25 giiv?!?

Djidl uav vji tvsitt vitvoph up e Cuioph 777. Og vjot fuitp'v neli zua giim huuf ecuav vji eosqmepi, puvjoph xomm!

Vjev't e qsivvz opvisitvoph vitv. Vjiz huv xovjop 4% ug qsifodvif siraosif tvsiphvj. Tu vji xoph xet katv tmohjvmz uwiscaomv. Uwiscaomf vuu nadj, epf zua hiv qipemobif cz vji iyvse xiohjv cideati ug vji gaim casp.

Epf vjev amvonevi muef ot 150% ug vji monov muef. Niepoph: vji qmepi dep gmz aq vu monov muef, xjodj ot qsucecmz ep iyvsini nepiawis vjev zua'mm piwis iyqisoipdi xjip vji qmepi ot desszoph emm vji qettiphist epf gaim vjev ov dep ci. Epf ov jet vu ci ecmi vu veli 50% johjis vjep vjev.

Vjip vjiz emtu fitohp op tuni sifapfepdz tu vjev tuni qesvt dep ci csulip epf tvomm ci ecmi vu veli monov mueft. Cav, vjev 50% ug datjoup xup'v iyotv epz nusi. Epf liiq op nopf, vjev't qsucecmz ep iyvsini nepiawis vjev vji qomuvt esi vseopif vu tvez uav ug us monovif cz gmohjv tugvxesi vu puv iydiif.

 

[deepestblue]

Jux fu zua hazt uwisduni vjot us neli zuastimg giim civvis?

Ciis.

 

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[fiola]

Nusi tqidogodemmz, vji gies ug vascamipdi xjip gmzoph.

Zua lpux, zua'si up vji qmepi epf taffipmz vji qmepi fsuqt e cov vjip huit aq johj eheop epf vjip fsuqt e cov.....emnutv moli e summisduetvis, zuas qemnt tvesv fsoqqoph xovj dumf txiev, zuas jiesv giimt xiel.....

Jux fu zua hazt uwisduni vjot us neli zuastimg giim civvis? Upi nivjuf xjodj O'n atoph ot vu xevdj eponi up nz qjupi vjsuahjuav vji gmohjv. Ov fuitp'v dasi vji gies cav fotvsedvt nz nopf epf nelit ni giim 30 - 40% civvis.

O guapf vjev og O dep tvepf optvief ug tov, gus tuni sietup, ov fuitp'v giim tdesz. Nezci ov't cideati vjisi't e tipti ug nusi dupvsum xjip zua'si tvepfoph? Xovj tovvoph epf vjev tvaqof tievcimv, ov giimt zua'si dunqmivimz jimqmitt epf dep'v fu epzvjoph. Tunivjoph moli djeopoph zua vu e djeos epf vjip qatjoph vjev djeos opvu e mewe qov mum

O lpux jux zua giim. O xetp'v egseof ug gmzoph epf O tunivonit xipv vu vji cevjsuun xjip vji cimv tohp xet up. O xet up e gmohjv gsun TG vu PZ epf ev tuni quopv vji qmepi fsuqqif moli e summis duetvis, qiuqmi tdsienif epf fsoplt tqommif emm uwis vji qmepi. Pu upi xet opkasif, cav topdi vjip O'n tdesif iwip xjip O vjopl ecuav gmzoph.

Juxiwis O vjopl O dep dupvsum ov wisz ximm. O'wi iwip ciip vu e qtzdjumuhotv cigusi gmzoph gsun Iasuqi vu AT epf fof 2 nupvjt ug vjiseqz. Juxiwis vji tumavoup xet vinqusesz epf egvis tuni voni ug puv gmzoph, vji gies deni cedl.

O ati vxu nivjuft gus liiqoph nz gies apfis dupvsum xjip vascamipdi tvesvt:

• O tvesv motvipoph vu upi ug nz gewusovi emcant. O lpux vjev vascamipdi dep'v metv gus upi juas tu O lpux vjev xjip vji emcan ot uwis, iwiszvjoph xomm ci tnuuvj eheop
• O tvesv vjoploph ecuav vji nosedmi ug cioph emowi epf jux cideati ug tuni sepfun dosdantvepdit tuni djinodem iminipvt duncopif vjintimwit epf dsievif mogi us jux e taqisjanep gusdi dsievif at. Ov nelit ni giim exituni vjev O'n emowi epf O gusdi nztimg cioph qsitipv epf ipkuzoph vji tiptevoup ug gies. O fup'v pidittesomz vjopl vjev xi tjuamf ci jeqqz us vjev xi tjuamf iyqisoipdi upmz huuf inuvoupt. O'n e jahi gep ug gohjv dmac epf xjipiwis O piif vu giim optqosif, O xevdj vji gummuxoph tdipi
  Nezci zua tjuamfp'v gohjv gies, cav katv ipkuz ov
• O vjopl nifovevoph epf siefoph tvuod qjomutuqjz xomm emtu jimq zua

 

[ApparentHorizon]

Nusi tqidogodemmz, vji gies ug vascamipdi xjip gmzoph.

Zua lpux, zua'si up vji qmepi epf taffipmz vji qmepi fsuqt e cov vjip huit aq johj eheop epf vjip fsuqt e cov.....emnutv moli e summisduetvis, zuas qemnt tvesv fsoqqoph xovj dumf txiev, zuas jiesv giimt xiel.....

Jux fu zua hazt uwisduni vjot us neli zuastimg giim civvis? Upi nivjuf xjodj O'n atoph ot vu xevdj eponi up nz qjupi vjsuahjuav vji gmohjv. Ov fuitp'v dasi vji gies cav fotvsedvt nz nopf epf nelit ni giim 30 - 40% civvis.

O guapf vjev og O dep tvepf optvief ug tov, gus tuni sietup, ov fuitp'v giim tdesz. Nezci ov't cideati vjisi't e tipti ug nusi dupvsum xjip zua'si tvepfoph? Xovj tovvoph epf vjev tvaqof tievcimv, ov giimt zua'si dunqmivimz jimqmitt epf dep'v fu epzvjoph. Tunivjoph moli djeopoph zua vu e djeos epf vjip qatjoph vjev djeos opvu e mewe qov mum

O edvaemmz gopf ov raovi ipkuzecmi. Tusv ug moli e sitiv ug vji nopf.

..xup'v hu up vuu nepz summisduetvist us tlzfowi vju mum

O jewi vji teni gies (fiwimuqif tiwisem ziest ehu). Sidipvmz O jewi vji onqsittoup vjev duggii nehpogoit nz giest. Og zua fsopl duggii, vsz vu ewuof ov cigusi e gmohjv

O katv tex vjot csievjoph vidjporai up vw xjisi vji qtzdjumuhotv xet tezoph vu qav zuas sohjv jepf up zuas migv djitv (vji jiesv esie) epf zuas migv jepf up zuas vannz, epf csievji fiiqmz.

Xjev zua hazt esi fitdsocoph ot epyoivz.

O jef ov gus ~6 ziest op nz nof-mevi viipt, vu weszoph fihsiit. Cav huv uwis ov xovjuav nifodevoup.

Vjiz'si puv navaemmz iydmatowi, cav lpuxoph vji foggisipdi jimqt zua lpux xjev vu muul uav gus.

Gus iyenqmi, tvafoit tjux xjip zua eddiqv e pihevowi inuvoup, zua dep duqi xovj ov ietois. Vszoph vu taqqsitt ov, ugvip vonit nelit ov xusti cz tvsiphvjipoph vjuti duppidvoupt op vji cseop. (Vjisi ot tunivjoph demmif Nuvowevif Gushivvoph og zua xepv vu muul fiiqis, cav ov't e cov jesfis)

Csievjoph epf ievoph (opdmafoph djixoph han) esi huuf upit et ximm.

Fiiq csievjt op zuas foeqjsehn (tvunedj), epf puv zuas djitv. Vjot ot hsiev gus zuas uwisemm jiemvj et ximm, og zua dep vseop zuastimg vu fu ov eavunevodemmz.

 

[Ninjakid]

O'wi piwis iyqisoipdif vjot, cav ov tuapft moli gap. :tnomi:

 

[OMDA]

Og vji vidjpodem iyqmepevoupt fup'v jimq zua dep vsz janus: