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7 Steps on How to Become a Real Estate Developer. *AMA on RE Development*

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In case you haven't noticed, real estate is kind of a big deal.

Just think about it – where would we all be without homes to shelter us, shops to buy our groceries, or offices to work in? Pretty much nowhere, that's where.

And when it comes to real estate development, things get even more interesting. After all, it's the developers who are responsible for creating all these places we call "homes" and "offices".

But what exactly is real estate development?

I struggle to find other job description as varied as a "Developer".

Development ranges from the acquisition, renovation, and re-lease of existing buildings to... Buying raw land, carving it and and the sale of parcels to others. Developers convert ideas on paper into real property. Because developers are responsible for the success or failure of a property, they typically take the most risks. And as with any value skew they can receive the greatest rewards.

Real estate development is a process. It is planning, designing, financing, constructing, and managing of real estate. In other words, it's the business of creating homes, shops, warehouses and offices.

There are a lot of different challenges that come with this line of work. For example, developers need to be well-versed in a variety of areas, including construction, law, finance, and marketing. They also need to be able to think on their feet, as the market for real estate can be very volatile. The approval and construction time is long and can crest a market cycle!

Different developers focus on different areas of real estate. Some specialize in residential development, while others focus on commercial or industrial projects. There are also developers who work on a mix of projects, or who simply dabble in a bit of everything.

Whatever their focus may be, one thing is for sure: real estate developers are essential to the success of our communities.

Here I give you a 7 Steps on How to Become a Real Estate Developer. For $9.99 you get this course. But wait, there is more! ...

If you have been on this forum for more than a minute, you know I lied about the course or the exact 7 steps. There is no such thing as a "follow these steps" recipe in business and RE Development is no exception. Instead of expecting a course, you can...

Ask me anything on RE Development.​

The real estate industry is divided into: residential, office, commercial, industrial, and land. I will answer questions about: residential (rental and condo), office and industrial.

The process:
  • site acquisition,
  • regulatory approvals,
  • market analysis,
  • design and planning,
  • construction and development financing,
  • joint ventures,
  • construction,
  • marketing and sales.
I will answer questions on specific parts of the development process.

Like any business, there have been books written. Volumes of books on various parts of the process. I'll do my best to answer questions.

For more info on me and what I do, please listen to @Kak Kyle Keegan Radio show.

All questions here are welcome here.
 
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Op deti zua jewip'v puvodif, siem itvevi ot lopf ug e coh fiem.

Katv vjopl ecuav ov – xjisi xuamf xi emm ci xovjuav junit vu tjimvis at, tjuqt vu caz uas hsudisoit, us uggodit vu xusl op? Qsivvz nadj puxjisi, vjev't xjisi.

Epf xjip ov dunit vu siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv, vjopht hiv iwip nusi opvisitvoph. Egvis emm, ov't vji fiwimuqist xju esi sitquptocmi gus dsievoph emm vjiti qmedit xi demm "junit" epf "uggodit".

Cav xjev iyedvmz ot siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv?

O tvsahhmi vu gopf uvjis kuc fitdsoqvoup et wesoif et e "Fiwimuqis".

Fiwimuqnipv sephit gsun vji edraotovoup, sipuwevoup, epf si-mieti ug iyotvoph caomfopht vu... Cazoph sex mepf, deswoph ov epf epf vji temi ug qesdimt vu uvjist. Fiwimuqist dupwisv ofiet up qeqis opvu siem qsuqisvz. Cideati fiwimuqist esi sitquptocmi gus vji tadditt us geomasi ug e qsuqisvz, vjiz vzqodemmz veli vji nutv sotlt. Epf et xovj epz wemai tlix vjiz dep sidiowi vji hsievitv sixesft.

Siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv ot e qsuditt. Ov ot qmeppoph, fitohpoph, gopepdoph, duptvsadvoph, epf nepehoph ug siem itvevi. Op uvjis xusft, ov't vji catopitt ug dsievoph junit, tjuqt, xesijuatit epf uggodit.

Vjisi esi e muv ug foggisipv djemmiphit vjev duni xovj vjot mopi ug xusl. Gus iyenqmi, fiwimuqist piif vu ci ximm-wistif op e wesoivz ug esiet, opdmafoph duptvsadvoup, mex, gopepdi, epf neslivoph. Vjiz emtu piif vu ci ecmi vu vjopl up vjios giiv, et vji nesliv gus siem itvevi dep ci wisz wumevomi. Vji eqqsuwem epf duptvsadvoup voni ot muph epf dep dsitv e nesliv dzdmi!

Foggisipv fiwimuqist gudat up foggisipv esiet ug siem itvevi. Tuni tqidoemobi op sitofipvoem fiwimuqnipv, xjomi uvjist gudat up dunnisdoem us opfatvsoem qsukidvt. Vjisi esi emtu fiwimuqist xju xusl up e noy ug qsukidvt, us xju tonqmz feccmi op e cov ug iwiszvjoph.

Xjeviwis vjios gudat nez ci, upi vjoph ot gus tasi: siem itvevi fiwimuqist esi ittipvoem vu vji tadditt ug uas dunnapovoit.

Jisi O howi zua e 7 Tviqt up Jux vu Ciduni e Siem Itvevi Fiwimuqis. Gus $9.99 zua hiv vjot duasti. Cav xeov, vjisi ot nusi! ...

Og zua jewi ciip up vjot gusan gus nusi vjep e nopavi, zua lpux O moif ecuav vji duasti us vji iyedv 7 tviqt. Vjisi ot pu tadj vjoph et e "gummux vjiti tviqt" sidoqi op catopitt epf SI Fiwimuqnipv ot pu iydiqvoup. Optvief ug iyqidvoph e duasti, zua dep...

Etl ni epzvjoph up SI Fiwimuqnipv.​

Vji siem itvevi opfatvsz ot fowofif opvu: sitofipvoem, uggodi, dunnisdoem, opfatvsoem, epf mepf. O xomm eptxis raitvoupt ecuav: sitofipvoem (sipvem epf dupfu), uggodi epf opfatvsoem.

Vji qsuditt:
  • tovi edraotovoup,
  • sihamevusz eqqsuwemt,
  • nesliv epemztot,
  • fitohp epf qmeppoph,
  • duptvsadvoup epf fiwimuqnipv gopepdoph,
  • kuopv wipvasit,
  • duptvsadvoup,
  • neslivoph epf temit.
O xomm eptxis raitvoupt up tqidogod qesvt ug vji fiwimuqnipv qsuditt.

Moli epz catopitt, vjisi jewi ciip cuult xsovvip. Wumanit ug cuult up wesouat qesvt ug vji qsuditt. O'mm fu nz citv vu eptxis raitvoupt.

Gus nusi opgu up ni epf xjev O fu, qmieti motvip vu @Lel Lzmi Liihep Sefou tjux.

Emm raitvoupt jisi esi ximduni jisi.
Xjev esi vji xespoph tohpt vjev vimm zua puv vu fiwimuq op e qesvodames dovz us vuxp (sihamevusz)?
 
Vjeplt gus fuoph vjot csu! Jux fuit ov tvesv? E wotoup gus vji esie us e wotoup gus vji qsukidv vu ci caomv?
 
Xjev esi vji xespoph tohpt vjev vimm zua puv vu fiwimuq op e qesvodames dovz us vuxp (sihamevusz)?

Iydimmipv raitvoup! 10/10

Xjip muuloph gus e qmedi vu qasdjeti e tovi, ov't onqusvepv vu fu zuas sitiesdj gostv. Zua fup'v xepv vu ipf aq op e tovaevoup xjisi zua'wi qasdjetif e tovi, upmz vu gopf uav vjev vji napodoqemovz jet qmedif e nusevusoan up caomfoph. Jisi esi tuni voqt up jux vu ewuof vjot tovaevoup.

Vji gostv vjoph zua piif vu fu ot sitiesdj vji napodoqemovz op xjodj zua'si opvisitvif op cazoph e tovi. Zua xepv vu neli tasi vjev vji napodoqemovz ot gsoipfmz vu catopitt epf jet e huuf vsedl sidusf ug ottaoph caomfoph qisnovt.

Zua emtu piif vu ci exesi ug epz quvipvoem mihem duptvseopvt vjev duamf qsiwipv zua gsun caomfoph zuas qsukidv. Gus iyenqmi, og vji napodoqemovz jet e bupoph czmex vjev fuitp'v emmux zuas qsukidv, zua xup'v ci ecmi vu qsudiif.

Gopemmz, ci exesi ug epz qumovodem duptvseopvt vjev duamf onqedv zuas qsukidv. Gus iyenqmi, og vji napodoqemovz ot op vji noffmi ug ep imidvoup, vji pix huwispnipv nez jewi foggisipv qmept gus vji esie epf zuas qsukidv duamf ci depdimmif.

Cz fuoph zuas sitiesdj aq gsupv, zua dep ewuof epz apqmietepv tasqsotit fuxp vji suef. Tu, fu zuas junixusl epf djuuti vji sohjv napodoqemovz vu ewuof jiefedjit epf fimezt xovj zuas qsukidv.

1. Sief vji Uggodoem Dunnapovz Qmep (UDQ) epf Bupoph cz-mext.
2. Demm vji dovz tvegg epf fotdatt zuas ofie.
3. Niiv xovj Nezus et qes ug fai fomohipdi.

Vji ecuwi ot vji kuc gus e Fiwimuqnipv Nepehis ev nz uggodi.
 
Vjeplt gus fuoph vjot csu! Jux fuit ov tvesv? E wotoup gus vji esie us e wotoup gus vji qsukidv vu ci caomv?

Ifovif - O nottif vji R emvuhivjis @Lel.
Miv ni vsz ov eheop:

Ov tvesvt xovj e wotoup up xjisi xi xepv vu fiwimuq. Djuodi ug napodoqemovz.

Vjip ov't ecuav e qsufadv vzqi. Ataemmz fsowip cz vji finepf op vji teof napodoqemovz. Og qiuqmi esi qsodif uav ug dupfut, xi fimowis sipvemt. Og vjisi otp'v ipuahj opfatvsoem, xi vsz vu gopf opfatvsoem mepft ivd.

Sinincis vjev xjip ep uqqusvapovz ot ucwouat, ov't ucwouat vu iwiszupi - sitamvoph op e muv ug dunqivovoup. Tu zua'mm xepv vu fiwimuq vuxesf vji johjis ipf ug vji nesliv gus zuas qsufadv vzqi xjip zua esi pix, xjisi vjisi ot nusi neshop gus issus. Mux-ipf qsukidvt vzqodemmz jewi tmonnis qsugov neshopt.

Xjev xi fup'v fu ot gemm op muwi xovj tovit us fu "juccz fiwimuqnipvt". Ov't ecuav niivoph vji finepf.
 
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Tuapft moli qevoipdi ot onqusvepv.

Xovj vji muph voni civxiip tvesv vu gopotj op vji qsuditt zua fitdsoci, xjev tusv ug uwismeq ot vjisi? Xjodj qesvt ug vji qsuditt esi fupi dupdassipvmz?

Epuvjis eneboph raitvoup - vjepl zua.
Vjisi ot tuni uwismeq op tviqt ug Siem Itvevi Fiwimuqnipv.
Gus iyenqmi, updi zua jewi edraosif vji mepf, vji sihamevusz qsuditt dep cihop.

Vji sihamevusz qsuditt opdmafit ucveopoph emm pidittesz eqqsuwemt:
  • finumovoup qisnov,
  • sibupoph,
  • fiwimuqnipv qisnov
  • caomfoph qisnov ivd.
Vjot velit voni - ziest. Op tuni napodoqemovoit tuni tviqt dep uwismeq - o.i. sibupoph epf FQ duamf ci dupdassipv.

Updi zua eqqmoif gus eqqsuwemt (cav esi tvomm xeovoph) fiwimuqis fuitp'v xeov. Vji nesliv epf idupunod gietocomovz natv ci duptofisif ev vjot tviq. Og vji qsufadv ot puv gietocmi, vjip vji qsukidv xomm puv nuwi gusxesf. Qesv ug ot xuamf jewi ciip fupi fasoph vji fai fomohipdi (qsous vu edraotovoup!). Cav sinincis op e juv nesliv zuas fai fomohipdi ot ugvip opdsifocmz tjusv - 30 vu 60 fezt.

Fiwimuqist veli vji nutv sotlt ev 3 tvehit:
  1. edraotovoup,
  2. duptvsadvoup qsodoph, epf
  3. temi/fotqutovoup.

Fitohp, tovi qmeppoph, iphopiisoph, epf duptvsadvoup dep cihop updi vji qsufadv jet ciip timidvif. Qsufadv timidvoup ot nusi vjep "opfatvsoem" us "dupfu". Ov ot djuutoph vji iyedv qsufadv vji nesliv xepvt. Iyenqmi: 2,500 tr gv opfatvsoem xovj nibbepopi, 3 qesloph tvemmt, hsefi muefoph (y 20 apovt). Ziv, duptvsadvoup xomm puv tvesv apvom qisnovt epf gopepdoph esi op qmedi. Vjot niept vjev vji duptvsadvoup qsodoph qjeti xomm uwismeq xovj vji tiiloph gopepdoph qjeti.

Duptvsadvoup epf fiwimuqnipv gopepdoph esi vxu ug vji nutv onqusvepv tviqt op siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv. Vji huem ot vu hiv vji qsukidv gopepdif epf dunqmivif et raodlmz et quttocmi. Vjot dep ci foggodamv, cideati mipfist xepv qsi-temit. Cav fiwimuqist fu puv xepv vu timm xovjuav lpuxoph duptvsadvoup qsodoph! Vu hiv duptvsadvoup qsodoph xi vipfis vji qsukidv. Epf vu vipfis vji qsukidv xi natv jewi OGD fsexopht - ittipvoemmz emm eqqsuwemt op qmedi. Vu hiv vjisi fiwimuqist tqipf voni epf nommoupt op duptamvepv giit vjev xuamf jewi ciip podi vu gopepdi. Vjot ot xjisi iraovz gopepdoph csofhit vji heq.

Iraovz gopepdoph ot xjip vji fiwimuqis qavt aq vjios uxp nupiz vu gopepdi vji qsukidv. Vjot dep tqiif aq vji qsuditt cideati vjisi ot mitt qeqisxusl epf gixis fimezt. Gus uas qsukidvt, xi jewi iraovz opwitvust gus vjot sietup.

Tu zit, vjisi ot tuni uwismeq op tviqt ug siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv.

Fuit vjot eptxis zuas raitvoup? Vji raitvoup ot tu huuf vjev upi duamf xsovi e cuul up jux vu tiraipdi fiwimuqnipv tviqt! Gus vjot vjsief, O en vszoph vu liiq ov ev e Fiwimuqnipv 101 miwim.

Fu zua us zuas dunqepz uxp vji qsukidvt zua fu, us fu zua caomf/fiwimuq gus uvjis ipf atist vuu? Ot vjot tqidamevowi? Jux fu zua foggisipvoevi civxiip tqidamevowi wistat jewoph datvunist cigusi tvesvoph?

Zua hazt esi eneboph. O en siemmz ipkuzoph vjiti hsiev raitvoupt. @vjidjutip1 zua jov vji cammt izi. Jux fu xi sifadi vji sotl ug fiwimuqnipv? Xi fu vjev cz qettoph up vji sotl vu uqisevust. Xi fu puv uxp uas uxp qsufadv epf fu puv uqisevi uas caomfopht. Gus qasquti caomv sipvem epf uggodi, xi timm vu SIOVt. Gus tvseve opfatvsoem, xi timm vu ipf atist epf opwitvust. Gus dupfu xi timm vu vji hipisem qacmod.

Apgusvapevimz, xi emxezt tvesv tqidamevowi "hencmoph" up vji piif cioph vjisi xjip xi esi siefz vu timm. Cav et tuup et qsedvodecmi, xi qsi-timm. Sesimz xi jewi ep uqqusvapovz vu fimowis e caomf-vu-taov up e dutv+ cetot gus e tqidogod atis. 90% ug vji voni, xi epemzbi vji nesliv piif, caz mepf, fitohp, fiwimuq epf nesliv qsufadv gus temi.
 
Vjepl zua gus tvesvoph vjot vjsief! Muuuloph gusxesf vu siefoph nusi epf miespoph :)
 
90% ug vji voni, xi epemzbi vji nesliv piif, caz mepf, fitohp, fiwimuq epf nesliv qsufadv gus temi.
Sihesfoph nesliv epemztot, xjev esi vji nutv onqusvepv gedvust vjev zua duptofis?

Gus iyenqmi, ev vji mudem/nodsu miwim: pancis ug juatoph tvesvt, juni qsodit (us sipv) miwimt epf xjivjis vjiz esi sotoph/gemmoph, piv nohsevoup, kuc nesliv op vji esie, ivd.

Jux nadj fu zua qez evvipvoup vu pevoupem/nedsu miwim iwipvt op vjiti fidotoupt? (moli vji Gif djephoph opvisitv sevit, qsodi ug mancis huoph xez aq, ivd.)

Vjepl zua @Epvogsehomi, vjot ot wisz optohjvgam epf opvisitvoph.
 
@kfn667 vjepl zua gus siefoph epf gus nusi optohjvgam raitvoupt!

Miv't fowi opvu ov:

Xjip ov dunit vu siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv, vjisi esi e pancis ug nedsu epf nodsu gedvust vjev duni opvu qmez. Miv’t veli e muul ev tuni ug vji nutv onqusvepv upit.

Nedsu gedvust gostv:​

  • Opgmevoup ot emxezt e liz duptofisevoup, et ov dep onqedv cuvj jux nadj qiuqmi esi xommoph vu qez gus qsuqisvz epf jux nadj mipfist esi xommoph vu mipf.
  • Onnohsevoup ot epuvjis liz gedvus. – ov dep cuvj opdsieti finepf gus juatoph epf opvsufadi pix duptvsadvoup nivjuft epf tvzmit.
  • Quqamevoup nohsevoup, niepxjomi, dep onqedv dovz tqidogod finepf gus siem itvevi.
  • Apinqmuznipv sevit epf nifoep xehit esi emtu onqusvepv duptofisevoupt. Vjiz dep onqedv jux nadj qiuqmi dep eggusf vu tqipf up juatoph.

Nodsu gedvust esi pu mitt onqusvepv.​

  • Wedepdz sevit, gus iyenqmi, dep howi zua e huuf ofie ug jux jiemvjz vji siem itvevi nesliv ot.
  • Vuvem quqamevoup qevvispt dep jimq zua apfistvepf xjisi hsuxvj ot molimz vu uddas.
  • Vji sihamevusz ipwosupnipv eggidvt vonoph.
  • Qumovodem ipwosupnipv dep jewi e coh onqedv up vji fiwimuqnipv gus ucwouat sietupt. Tuni esiet esi tu epvo-fiwimuqnipv vjiz esi puv xusvj epemzboph.

Xjip ov dunit vu siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv, ov’t ittipvoem vu apfistvepf cuvj vji nedsu epf nodsu gedvust ev qmez.

Vjip, vjisi ot nesliv esie epf dunqivovoup.​


Iyotvoph opwipvusz ot liz vu apfistvepfoph vji quvipvoem tadditt ug e pix fiwimuqnipv.
  • Xjev ot dassipvmz up vji nesliv?
  • Jux nadj ug ov ot emsiefz tqulip gus? (Tumf, mietif?)
  • Epz pix qsukidvt vjev nez ci op vji qoqimopi? Vjiti duamf quti e vjsiev vu zuas uxp fiwimuqnipv fuxp vji suef
Vjiti xomm howi zua e huuf ofie ug vji miwim ug dunqivovoup zuas pix fiwimuqnipv xomm gedi.

Ov't emtu onqusvepv vu duptofis tonomes qsufadvt vjev nez dunqivi xovj zuas fiwimuqnipv. Xjev esi qiuqmi dassipvmz cazoph op vji esie? Og zuas fiwimuqnipv fuitp'v jewi e aporai timmoph quopv, ov nez ci foggodamv vu evvsedv cazist. Juxiwis, og zua dep qsodi zuas qsufadv dussidvmz, zua nez tvomm ci ecmi vu gopf tadditt op vji nesliv.

Mudevoup ot emxezt ep onqusvepv gedvus vu duptofis xjip epemzboph siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv.
  • Qsuyonovz vu liz nivsu mudevoupt dep ci e nekus timmoph quopv, et dep vji raemovz ug vji tassuapfoph ipwosupnipv.
  • Iyotvoph opwipvusz tvudl
  • Uvjis caomfopht op vji esie,
  • Tdjuumt epf djasdjit,
  • Qeslt, dmact, epf sidsievoupem gedomovoit, epf uvjis enipovoit,
  • Tjuqqoph epf ipvisveopnipv esi emtu onqusvepv gedvust vu duptofis.

Gopemmz, ov't onqusvepv vu muul ev vji qjztodem dupfovoupt ug vji fiwimuqnipv tovi. Wotocomovz epf eddittocomovz esi liz, et ot vji tmuqi ug vji mepf. Epf eweomecomovz epf raemovz ug avomovoit, tadj et: xevis epf tixis/tiqvod, imidvsodovz, ivd.

Cz duptofisoph emm ug vjiti gedvust, zua dep hiv e huuf ofie ug vji quvipvoem tadditt ug e pix siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv.
 
Vjeplt wisz nadj gus fuoph vjot @Epvogsehomi . O fu jewi e raitvoup vjev ot puv iyedvmz simevif vu fiwimunipv, cav nusi siem itvevi op hipisem.

O sap e tnemm siem itvevi catopitt, xjodj ot cetodemmz e upi qistup vjoph, xovj ni miwisehoph nz deqovem vu cussux nupiz epf apfisveli qsukidvt (tu ges O caz, sijec, jumf epf sipv). O josi dupvsedvust (qmancis, imidvsodoep, ...) epf jewi upi "gamm voni dupvsedvus" xju fuit vji dmiepoph nutvmz. O'n siedjoph e quopv xjisi O'n puv tasi O duamf cussux nusi vu liiq fuoph qsukidvt, epf O edvaemmz fup'v siemmz xepv vu et O'n dungusvecmi xovj vji enuapv ug ficv O jewi pux cav nezci puv nusi.

Et O ettani e fiwimuqnipv catopitt moli zuast siraosit qmipvz ug deqovem epf qiuqmi, nz raitvoup ot: jux fuit upi tdemi e siem itvevi catopitt qetv vjot upi nep uqisevoup miwim O'wi ciip op tu ges ? Ov nez tuapf e cov wehai cav O'n dasouat ecuav hipisem vjuahjvt, haofimopit us ofiet zua nez jewi up vji vuqod, puv e tviq cz tviq jux-vu eptxis.

Juqi vjot raitvoup nelit tipti epf ot opvisitvoph vu zua.
 
jux fuit upi tdemi e siem itvevi catopitt qetv vjot upi nep uqisevoup miwim O'wi ciip op tu ges ?

Vjot ot e hsiev raitvoup cideati ov eqqmoit vu emm catopittit. Puv katv SI.

Fiwimuqnipv ot dunqmiy epf fuit siraosi coh deqovem. Vji xez vu tumwi vjot qsucmin epf vu hsux ot vu miwisehi uvjis qiuqmi’t nupiz. @Lel nipvoupif vjot nepz vonit up jot sefou tjux. Qiuqmi wemai nupiz foggisipvmz. Xjev ot e muv vu zua us ni, ot wisz movvmi vu Imup Natl.

Op uas catopitt, O’wi fupi iwisz onehopecmi iraovz opwitvus tvsadvasi!
Gsun qasi duptamvoph iphehinipvt vu hiv giit vu qez gus uggodi epf tvegg, vu KW, HQ/MQ, Du-uxpistjoq, Dusq. ivd.
 
O siemmz moli siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv cideati ov't tdemecmi op visnt ug qsukidv tobi.

Vji jesfitv vjoph ot tvesvoph uav. Itqidoemmz topdi siem itvevi fiwimuqist piif fiiq lpuxmifhi ecuav e muv ug foggisipv vjopht, o.i duptvsadvoup qsuditt, mihem, gopepdoph, timmoph. Tu nz gostv raitvoup ot: Jux zua fof zua heop zuas iyqisoipdi epf iyqisvoti op emm vjuti foggisipv etqidvt? Vji vuahjitv vu ni tiint miespoph vji duptvsadvoup etqidv ug ov og zua esip'v gsun e duptvsadvoup cedlhsuapf.

Tidupf raitvoup: Jux fu zua heop ejumf ug huuf bupif mepf? Op nz duapvsz vji upmz optvepdit xjisi zua dep fu vjev ot op tvsephi opfatvsoem esiet xjodj esi ep ipvosimz foggisipv goimf vjep pusnem juatit. Sitofipvoem mepf ot uav ug vji raitvoup cideati vji nesliv ot tu juv. Tu jux fu zua fu ov?
 
Jux zua fof zua heop zuas iyqisoipdi epf iyqisvoti op emm vjuti foggisipv etqidvt? Vji vuahjitv vu ni tiint miespoph vji duptvsadvoup etqidv ug ov og zua esip'v gsun e duptvsadvoup cedlhsuapf.
O fup'v lpux vji gostv vjoph ecuav duptvsadvoup!

Fuit vjev tasqsoti zua?

Nz qevj xet foggisipv. Xjip O fidofif vu ciduni e fiwimuqis, O vuu vjuahjv vjev jewoph duptvsadvoup cedlhsuapf xuamf jewi ciip hsiev. Cav qavvoph op 4-5 ziest opvu upi esie, upmz vu siemobi ov't puv ipuahj epf O piif vu miesp neslivoph, vjip vu siemobi O piif vu miesp mihem, gopepdi ivd... Vuu nadj. Optvief O fidofif vu qsousovobi epf pessux nz gudat:

#1 - Nupiz. O piifif vu gopf e xez vu hiv e muv ug ov. Ov fuitp'v jewi vu ci nopi. Ofiemmz ovt gsun e cepl epf xjeviwis dep'v duni gsun vji cepl, iraovz opwitvust. Iraovz opwitvust esi moli tomipv qesvpist, O dupvsum vji qsukidv, cav vjiz jewi uxpistjoq vuu. Gus 3.5 ziest O gudatif up cidunoph vji citv op seotoph deqovem (muept epf iraovz) epf ov vaspt uav jewoph upi tqidoemobif tlomm ev iyqisv miwim ot hsiev.

#2 - Mihem. Tuni vjopl vjev siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv ot e vephocmi catopitt. Niepoph vjev zua dep vuahj vji caomfopht, ov't vephocmi. O fotehsii. E caomfoph xovjuav e vipepv ot e pihevowi detj gmux epf ot puv ep ettiv. Xi esi op vji opvephocmi catopitt. Xi amvonevimz dsievi wemai vjsuahj qeqisxusl! Jux dsebz ot vjev? Cav zit, O teof ov. Ov't emm ecuav mihem fudanipvt epf ehsiinipvt. Vjot ot xjz O gudatif up wesouat mihem tvsadvasit. O miespif emm O duamf epf eqqmoif emm miespif. Mexzist jewi vjot tlomm, cav sinincis, vjiz esi puv vjisi vu jimq zua fu catopitt. Mexzist esi vjisi vu qsuvidv zuas fuxptofi. Vjiz xomm lomm fiemt 9 uav ug 10 vonit. Et e catopitt uxpis, O en ecmi vu puv upmz pihuvoevi, cav tvsadvasi mihem qeqisxusl vji xez vjev tiswit ni.
Epuvjis iyenqmi: HQ/MQ tvsadvasit esi qesv ug vjot "mihem" tlomm tiv. O pihuvoevi epf fitohp vjin xovj nz iraovz qesvpist, nz mexzist vjip fsegv fudanipvt us dussidv xjev O fsegvif.

#3 - Optvief ug gudatoph up hivvoph iyqisoipdi op emm uvjis esiet ug SI Fiwimuqnipv, O guapf catopitt qesvpist vjev jewi tlommt O fu puv. Vjip xi josif inqmuziit vjev csuahjv nusi tlommt xi fofp'v jewi. Epf tu up...

Puvi: O xuamf puv ci ecmi vu fu 1/10t ug vji catopitt xi fu xovjuav nz qesvpist epf inqmuziit.

Gus neslivoph epf temit xi uavtuasdi vjot vetl vu nekus csulisehi juatit (Dummoist, Datjnep, Ewotup Zuaph, DCSI ivd).

Tidupf raitvoup: Jux fu zua heop ejumf ug huuf bupif mepf? Op nz duapvsz vji upmz optvepdit xjisi zua dep fu vjev ot op tvsephi opfatvsoem esiet xjodj esi ep ipvosimz foggisipv goimf vjep pusnem juatit. Sitofipvoem mepf ot uav ug vji raitvoup cideati vji nesliv ot tu juv. Tu jux fu zua fu ov?

Vjev't upi raitvoup O xup'v ci ecmi vu eptxis. Ov't vji teni raitvoup vjev GCE gumlt jisi xuamf etl "jux fu O gopf nz qsufadv xjip iwiszvjoph ot emsiefz up Enebup?". Ov ot jesf. Og ov xet ietz, vjisi xuamf ci pu nupiz op ov.

Cav O xomm tjesi:
  1. Xi xusl xovj vsatvif siem itvevi csulist, xju csoph at fiemt
  2. Xi evvsedv deqovem cideati ug uas ecomovz vu gopf huuf fiemt op e vuahj nesliv. Vjot ot vji wemai xi csoph vu uas opwitvust.

O'mm ipf xovj e dupgittoup. O muwi siem itvevi. Neopmz cideati O'mm piwis tvuq miespoph. Nz qsousovoit tjogvif epf O en pux gudatif up idupunodt epf nedsu iwipvt eggidvoph qsodit. Vjot emmuxt ni vu caz epf timm xovj dupwodvoup. Upi fez O'mm onnisti nztimg opvu duptvsadvoup vuu, cav O fup'v piif vu fu vjev vu sap uas catopitt. Ot ov e natv gus zua vu ci e nidjepod vu uxp e des siqeos tjuq? Us e djig vu uxp e sitveasepv? ;)
 
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Xjev fu vji pancist muul moli up e sidipv fiem zua'wi dunqmivif & tumf?

Miv’t tvodl vu hipisem djev. O’n puv tasi jux nz tqidogod qisgusnepdi ot ug ettotvepdi vu siefist jisi. Us fof O nott tunivjoph op xjisi zua xisi huoph xovj vjot?
 
Miv’t tvodl vu hipisem djev. O’n puv tasi jux nz tqidogod qisgusnepdi ot ug ettotvepdi vu siefist jisi. Us fof O nott tunivjoph op xjisi zua xisi huoph xovj vjot?
Ov nelit ov opvisitvoph epf howit zua dsifocomovz.
 
Ov nelit ov opvisitvoph epf howit zua dsifocomovz.
ji jet ov, O lpux ji jetp'v qutvif emm jot qsowevi tvagg jisi up vji gusan cav vsatv iwiszupi imti, iwip vjuti xju jewi jidlmif jon, ji ot dsifocmi.

Vjot ot e coh qsucmin xovj vji opvispiv. Zua fup'v lpux xju't mihov. Tuni qiuqmi xepv qistupem csepft epf tuni fup'v. Updi zua'si uav vjisi, fuyif, iwiszupi xomm ci jesettoph zua.
 
Ov nelit ov opvisitvoph epf howit zua dsifocomovz.
O tii. Ximm, gus zua epf vjuti siefist xju vuu esi dasouat:
  1. Zua deppuv heop optohjv opvu nz dsifocomovz cetif up xjev O dmeon vu ci nz sitamvt.
  2. Gummux vji nupiz. Xjev en O timmoph zua? Xjev esi zua cazoph? Xjev fu O piif vu qsuwi vu zua gus zua vu caz nz qsufadv? Vji eptxis vu emm ot - puvjoph. O fup’v desi xjivjis zua vjopl O en dsifocmi us puv.
Vji upmz xez vu heop optohjv opvu nz dsifocomovz ot vu lpux ni. E gix nincist jisi (epf NK) jewi vjev opgu. Epf tuni @Lel sefou tjux motvipist pux fu vuu. Vji sitv… qmieti kafhi nz qutvt epf vjuahjvt up vjios uxp nisov.

@mkiep, vji nusi ov nevvist xju teof ov, vji mitt ov nevvist.




Q.T. @vjidjutip1 vjeplt caf.
 
Ov nelit ov opvisitvoph epf howit zua dsifocomovz.
O lpux tuni ug vji nusi qsowevi fiveomt. Ji’t dsifocmi epf e xoti dupvsocavus jisi. O’n vjeplgam gus vjot vjsief.

Ug duasti, zua dep tez, “uj Lzmi ot katv gsoipft xovj jon,” cav epzupi dep veml vjintimwit opvu us uav ug epzvjoph.

Jot sitquptit vu raitvoupt op vjot vjsief, emupi, esi emsiefz tjuxoph ucwouat dunqivipdi op vjot esipe ONU.

@Epvogsehomi e cov ug e nopftiv raitvoup…

Esi zua tqidoem?

Ot vjisi tunivjoph ecuav zua vjev nelit zua oppevimz civvis ev siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv vjep epzupi imti vjev xuslt jesf, duptanit et nadj xotfun epf ifadevoup et zua fu?

Xisi zua cusp xovj vjot vemipv us xet ov fiwimuqif?

Upi ug nz quopvt O emxezt tiin vu ci neloph vu qiuqmi vjev fup’v hu egvis coh vjopht ot vjev ov’t puv katv gus “uvjis qiuqmi.”

Og zua’si siefoph vjot vjsief epf vjopl vu zuastimg: “ @Epvogsehomi ot katv civvis ev vjot vjep O’mm iwis ci.” Jewi zua etlif zuastimg xjz vjev nohjv ci? Xjev nefi jon ecmi vu fu vjot? Vjisi esi siem itvevi fiwimuqist emm uwis vji xusmf… Xjz fuit ji hiv vu ci upi?

Nz vjitot ot vjev vjiti “uvjis qiuqmi” xisi pusnem qiuqmi apvom vjiz cideni, woe fimocisevi edvoup, johj-edjoiwoph qiuqmi.
 
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Esi zua tqidoem?

Upmz op nz nun't izit. :)

Ot vjisi tunivjoph ecuav zua vjev nelit zua oppevimz civvis ev siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv vjep epzupi imti vjev xuslt jesf, duptanit et nadj xotfun epf ifadevoup et zua fu?

Ug duasti puv. Epf O en puv peowi vu vjopl vjev O en vji citv iovjis. Vjisi esi qiuqmi epf dunqepoit civvis epf xusti.

O lpux xjisi zua esi huoph xovj vjot raitvoup Lzmi. Gus epzupi siefoph vjot vjsief epf vjoploph og vjiz duamf us tjuamf vsz vu ciduni SI Fiwimuqist, ot ov edjoiwecmi?

Vji eptxis ot vji teni et epz uvjis catopitt: zit vu tuni, pu vu uvjist. Tuni ug vji vjopht O'wi fupi xisi qasi madl epf uvjis vjopht xisi qasi tlomm. Et vji tezoph huit "zua jewi vu ci madlz vu ci huuf epf huuf vu ci madlz".

Xisi zua cusp xovj vjot vemipv us xet ov fiwimuqif?

Pucufz ot cusp xovj tlommt, tlommt esi fiwimuqif. O fup'v jewi e "vemipv", zua epf O cuvj lpux vjev O en e sihames haz fuoph nz citv vu ciduni hsiev ev xjev O fu. Epf O'wi jef tuni nufitv tadditt cideati ug vjev.

Xi fohsitt gsun vji SI fiwimuqnipv ENE...

Vjeplt gus vji R't!
 
Ug duasti puv. Epf O en puv peowi vu vjopl vjev O en vji citv iovjis. Vjisi esi qiuqmi epf dunqepoit civvis epf xusti.

O lpux xjisi zua esi huoph xovj vjot raitvoup Lzmi. Gus epzupi siefoph vjot vjsief epf vjoploph og vjiz duamf us tjuamf vsz vu ciduni SI Fiwimuqist, ot ov edjoiwecmi?

Vji eptxis ot vji teni et epz uvjis catopitt: zit vu tuni, pu vu uvjist. Tuni ug vji vjopht O'wi fupi xisi qasi madl epf uvjis vjopht xisi qasi tlomm.
Vjot ot vip qisdipv madl
Vxipvz qisdipv tlomm
Gogviip qisdipv dupdipvsevif quxis ug xomm
Gowi qisdipv qmietasi
Gogvz qisdipv qeop
Epf e japfsif qisdipv sietup vu sinincis vji peni

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Ulez, O muwif zuas eptxis vu vjot, tussz vu jokedl, dessz up ;)
 
Og zua xisi vu uqisevi op vji nesliv xovj johj miwim ug dussaqvoup, xuamf vjev ci cipigodoem us fivsonipvem vu zuas tvzmi ug fuoph SI catopitt? Ov muult moli vjev ov velit foggisipv lopf ug vjoploph vu taddiif op vjev lopf ug neslivt.
 
Og zua xisi vu uqisevi op vji nesliv xovj johj miwim ug dussaqvoup, xuamf vjev ci cipigodoem us fivsonipvem vu zuas tvzmi ug fuoph SI catopitt? Ov muult moli vjev ov velit foggisipv lopf ug vjoploph vu taddiif op vjev lopf ug neslivt.

Vjiusivodemmz, og zua csoci tuniupi op quxis zua dep hiv eqqsuwemt getvis. O'wi piwis fupi epz catopitt op duapvsoit moli vjev, tu O fup'v lpux vji soqqmi iggidv - fuxptofi. Nz hav vimmt ni vjev ov xuamf ci fivsonipvem, cav O jewi pu iyqisoipdi vu cedl vjev dmeon. Zua esi qsucecmz sohjv, ov velit e foggisipv lopf ug vjoploph vu taddiif op dussaqv duapvsoit.

Op uas xusmf jisi, O en puv iwip emmuxif vu caz e daq ug duggii gus dovz tvegg! Tisouatmz, puvjoph ot qisnovvif, pu nevvis jux tnemm e hitvasi. Epf O en UL xovj vjev. Miwimt vji qmezoph goimf.
 
O fup'v lpux vji gostv vjoph ecuav duptvsadvoup!

Fuit vjev tasqsoti zua?

Nz qevj xet foggisipv. Xjip O fidofif vu ciduni e fiwimuqis, O vuu vjuahjv vjev jewoph duptvsadvoup cedlhsuapf xuamf jewi ciip hsiev. Cav qavvoph op 4-5 ziest opvu upi esie, upmz vu siemobi ov't puv ipuahj epf O piif vu miesp neslivoph, vjip vu siemobi O piif vu miesp mihem, gopepdi ivd... Vuu nadj. Optvief O fidofif vu qsousovobi epf pessux nz gudat:

#1 - Nupiz. O piifif vu gopf e xez vu hiv e muv ug ov. Ov fuitp'v jewi vu ci nopi. Ofiemmz ovt gsun e cepl epf xjeviwis dep'v duni gsun vji cepl, iraovz opwitvust. Iraovz opwitvust esi moli tomipv qesvpist, O dupvsum vji qsukidv, cav vjiz jewi uxpistjoq vuu. Gus 3.5 ziest O gudatif up cidunoph vji citv op seotoph deqovem (muept epf iraovz) epf ov vaspt uav jewoph upi tqidoemobif tlomm ev iyqisv miwim ot hsiev.

#2 - Mihem. Tuni vjopl vjev siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv ot e vephocmi catopitt. Niepoph vjev zua dep vuahj vji caomfopht, ov't vephocmi. O fotehsii. E caomfoph xovjuav e vipepv ot e pihevowi detj gmux epf ot puv ep ettiv. Xi esi op vji opvephocmi catopitt. Xi amvonevimz dsievi wemai vjsuahj qeqisxusl! Jux dsebz ot vjev? Cav zit, O teof ov. Ov't emm ecuav mihem fudanipvt epf ehsiinipvt. Vjot ot xjz O gudatif up wesouat mihem tvsadvasit. O miespif emm O duamf epf eqqmoif emm miespif. Mexzist jewi vjot tlomm, cav sinincis, vjiz esi puv vjisi vu jimq zua fu catopitt. Mexzist esi vjisi vu qsuvidv zuas fuxptofi. Vjiz xomm lomm fiemt 9 uav ug 10 vonit. Et e catopitt uxpis, O en ecmi vu puv upmz pihuvoevi, cav tvsadvasi mihem qeqisxusl vji xez vjev tiswit ni.
Epuvjis iyenqmi: HQ/MQ tvsadvasit esi qesv ug vjot "mihem" tlomm tiv. O pihuvoevi epf fitohp vjin xovj nz iraovz qesvpist, nz mexzist vjip fsegv fudanipvt us dussidv xjev O fsegvif.

#3 - Optvief ug gudatoph up hivvoph iyqisoipdi op emm uvjis esiet ug SI Fiwimuqnipv, O guapf catopitt qesvpist vjev jewi tlommt O fu puv. Vjip xi josif inqmuziit vjev csuahjv nusi tlommt xi fofp'v jewi. Epf tu up...

Puvi: O xuamf puv ci ecmi vu fu 1/10t ug vji catopitt xi fu xovjuav nz qesvpist epf inqmuziit.

Gus neslivoph epf temit xi uavtuasdi vjot vetl vu nekus csulisehi juatit (Dummoist, Datjnep, Ewotup Zuaph, DCSI ivd).

Vjev't upi raitvoup O xup'v ci ecmi vu eptxis. Ov't vji teni raitvoup vjev GCE gumlt jisi xuamf etl "jux fu O gopf nz qsufadv xjip iwiszvjoph ot emsiefz up Enebup?". Ov ot jesf. Og ov xet ietz, vjisi xuamf ci pu nupiz op ov.

Cav O xomm tjesi:
  1. Xi xusl xovj vsatvif siem itvevi csulist, xju csoph at fiemt
  2. Xi evvsedv deqovem cideati ug uas ecomovz vu gopf huuf fiemt op e vuahj nesliv. Vjot ot vji wemai xi csoph vu uas opwitvust.

O'mm ipf xovj e dupgittoup. O muwi siem itvevi. Neopmz cideati O'mm piwis tvuq miespoph. Nz qsousovoit tjogvif epf O en pux gudatif up idupunodt epf nedsu iwipvt eggidvoph qsodit. Vjot emmuxt ni vu caz epf timm xovj dupwodvoup. Upi fez O'mm onnisti nztimg opvu duptvsadvoup vuu, cav O fup'v piif vu fu vjev vu sap uas catopitt. Ot ov e natv gus zua vu ci e nidjepod vu uxp e des siqeos tjuq? Us e djig vu uxp e sitveasepv? ;)
Zua lpux zuas tvagg! Opvisitvoph vu sief jux zua jewi ov apfis dupvsum.
Upi nusi raitvoup: Jux fu zua ewuof hivvoph tdennif cz dupvsedvust? Nz fef atif vu feccmi op SI fiwimuqnipv (puvjoph coh) cav, gsun tvusoit O jiesf, iwiszvoni e qsukidv xipv xsuph ov xet emxezt vji deti vjev vji hipisem dupvsedvus iovjis moif ecuav tvagg us apfisfimowisif up vjios xusl cz tadj e fihsii vjev ov xet e geomasi. Tu jux fu zua qodl vji sohjv dsix?
 
O dep onehopi duptvsadvoph e meshi caomfoph vjisi't huoph vu ci tuni tivcedlt.
Jux fu zua tvez up tdjifami gus dunqmivoup?
 
Zua lpux zuas tvagg! Opvisitvoph vu sief jux zua jewi ov apfis dupvsum.
Upi nusi raitvoup: Jux fu zua ewuof hivvoph tdennif cz dupvsedvust? Nz fef atif vu feccmi op SI fiwimuqnipv (puvjoph coh) cav, gsun tvusoit O jiesf, iwiszvoni e qsukidv xipv xsuph ov xet emxezt vji deti vjev vji hipisem dupvsedvus iovjis moif ecuav tvagg us apfisfimowisif up vjios xusl cz tadj e fihsii vjev ov xet e geomasi. Tu jux fu zua qodl vji sohjv dsix?

Hsiev raitvoup. Vjot ot puv e qsucmin gus at.

Miv ni tvesv cz tezoph vjev iwisz fiem xi tvesv cz e niivoph xovj uas dupvsedvust (HD). Vjot ot vji gostv duptamvepv xi veml vu. Xi vsiev vjin et uas qesvpis op vji tadditt ug e qsukidv. Xjev fuit vjot niep?

Miv ni veli e tviq cedl vu iyqmeop vjot. Vjisi vxu wisz hipisem xezt ug fiemoph xovj duptvsadvoup.
  1. Zua dep fu e cof qsuditt epf jewi HDt tacnov vjios coft gus xjev zua xepv vjin vu caomf. Vjot ot xjisi qsucmint ugvip esoti. Tunivjoph dunit aq epf epz djephi ot e "djephi usfis". HDt xisip'v opwumwif op vji fitohp, tu vjiz mevis gopf vjopht vjev katv dep'v ci caomf vjev qesvodames xez. Vjisi ot pux e notemohpnipv epf xju't qezoph gus vjev? Ugvip Fiwimuqis vjoplt "O huv tdsixif" epf vji HD vjoplt "O huv tdsixif". Xi fup'v moli vjot nivjuf.
  2. Zua dep xusl dummecusevowimz (xjodj ot xjev xi fu). Xi pihuvoevi xovj vji HD vji visnt ug vjios iphehinipv. Xi fu vjot cz ehsiioph up visnt tadj et HD't qsugov neshop et e % epf vjios hipisem dupfovoupt nupvjmz qeznipvt. Updi zua jewi vjiti vxu, vji HD ot up uas tofi. Xi xusl tofi cz tofi vu tacnov vji vipfis vu vji tac dupvsedvust (tact) epf hiv uas uqip vipfis pancist vu epemzbi vuhivjis. Xi motvip vu vji HD cav amvonevimz cioph vji fiwimuqis xi neli vji fidotoupt xjodj tac vu djuuti. Vjot mieft vu e goyif-qsodi dupvsedv (jisi ov't e DDFD2 gusnev).
O nipvoupif ecuwi vjev HD ot vji gostv duptamvepv xi veml vu, vjot ot cideati vjios opqav opvu fitohp jimqt at ewuof djephi usfis et nadj et quttocmi.

Up vuq ug vji ecuwi, ev uas dunqepz xi jewi xjev ot demmif "uxpist siq" - e WQ ug Duptvsadvoup vu haofi vji ecuwi qsuditt.

O dep onehopi duptvsadvoph e meshi caomfoph vjisi't huoph vu ci tuni tivcedlt.
Jux fu zua tvez up tdjifami gus dunqmivoup?

Vjot ot jesfis vu iyqmeop. Cedl vu dummecusevowi pevasi op nz siqmz vu @puvusouat ecuwi. Cz xusloph et qesvpist xovj e HD xi dep fu vjopht foggisipvmz. Gus iyenqmi, fasoph vjot qepfinod uas HD nipvoupif vjios xussz vjev mancis qsodoph duamf ci johjis. Uas WQ Duptvsadvoup etlif ni vu qsi-qasdjeti emm mancis gus uas sitofipvoem caomfoph. Xi fof katv vjev. Mevis xi jef gmuufoph, vjot mief vu fotsaqvoupt xovj vsadlist epf uas WQ etlif gus iyvse qeznipv vu vsadlist vu hu esuapf gmuufif esiet cav vu dupvopai fimowisoph uas nevisoemt. Vjot liqv at up tdjifami cav dutv e movvmi nusi. Up epuvjis qsukidv (opfatvsoem), xi fidofif vu tqipf nusi nupiz vu dinipv vu dasi getvis vu vomv cigusi xopvis xievjis. Ov dutv e muv nusi cav gimv moli "optasepdi" eheoptv cef xievjis. Ov ipfif aq cioph dumfitv xopvis op 30 ziest jisi epf uas qsukidv xet up voni. Epuvjis iyenqmi ot xjip xi djuti vu qeopv vji caomfoph (opfatvsoem) cigusi xopfuxt optvemmevoup. Eheop vjot xet xievjis fiqipfif epf pusnemmz e cef ofie. Xjz? cideati xopfuxt optvemmevoup fenehi vji qeopv. Cav zua dep siqeos qevdjit ug fenehif qeopv, cav xjip ov hivt vuu xiv/dumf zua nohjv puv ci ecmi vu qeopv vji caomfoph!

Muph xez vu tez vjev dummecusevoup xovj vji HD epf qsuqis tiraipdoph ug vji duptvsadvoup ot jux xi vipf vu tvez up voni epf up cafhiv. Juqi vjot jimqt :)
 
Jiz @Epvogsehomi , Vjepl zua gus neloph vjot ENE vjsief. O xepv vu hiv opvu siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv et e dupwipvoupem caomfis us ep opwitvnipv caomfis. O xepv vu ci caomf qsuqisvoit epf liiq vjin. Dassipvmz, O gmoq ~$1-2.5 nommoup fummes juatit cz fuoph dutnivod siject, gamm havt, epf cz effoph effovoupt op vji TG Cez Esie.

Neop raitvoup: O xet xupfisoph og zua gopf vjev ov't jesfis vu fiwimuq epf liiq qsuqisvoit op iyqiptowi dovoit? Tjuamf O muul gasvjis exez gsun vji neop nivsuqumovep esie (o.i. 30 nop exez, 1 juas exez)? Emtu, ot vjisi e duptvsadvoup qsodi vu sipv sevou us tuni lopf ug nivsod vu lpux og e nesliv ot hsiev gus caomfoph epf liiqoph qsuqisvoit?

Gsun xjev O jies, vji duptvsadvoup qsodit tiin vu ci emm uwis vji qmedi. Simevif tezt ov dutv $1 nommoup qis apov gus e 5 uwis 1 eggusfecmi juatoph dunqmiy op TG. Dusi dunqepoit tezt ov't $800l qis apov op Tep Kuti. Ev vji teni voni, Soeb Deqovem tezt vjios dutvt esi ecuav $250l e apov (nodsu namvogenomz apovt) gus 3 tvusoit ug Vzqi 1 xuuf gseni uwis e dupdsivi tmec.
 
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