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  1. GIlman

    The Worldwide C0VlD-19 Coronavirus Pandemic Discussion Thread...

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    Hydroxychloroquine (C18H26ClN3O) is not chemically related to chlorine dioxide (ClO2). The only similarity is the chlorine atom. But otherwise there is no chemical or biological similarity.
  2. GIlman

    The Worldwide C0VlD-19 Coronavirus Pandemic Discussion Thread...

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    Not sure what the relative capacity in Canada is compared to US, likely much lower due to socialized medicine. Other countries like the UK I have looked into have much lower per capita capacity. But here I’m the US many many hospitals are running super low census and actually furloughing people...
  3. GIlman

    The Worldwide C0VlD-19 Coronavirus Pandemic Discussion Thread...

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    Lol, that’s not a single wonder chemical. Its a highly complex variable set of conditions. What about someone that is super fit and eats only cheeseburgers? Maybe they keep their calories at 2K, they will be skinny and fit. :P
  4. GIlman

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    For any treatment there needs to be two things to be useful, safety and efficacy (effectiveness). Safety of anything is first off dose dependent. In medicine we talk about an LD50, which is the lethal dose at which 50% of the study population dies. Even water, pure H2O, has an LD50, it’s...
  5. GIlman

    The Worldwide C0VlD-19 Coronavirus Pandemic Discussion Thread...

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    Also, before even considering getting the CV vaccine, people should seriously consider getting an antibody test for CV. If someone has already developed immunity to CV the utility of a vaccine is likely low or non-existent. Actually the flip side is also true, if people believe they previously...
  6. GIlman

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    Vaccines are medical treatments, all treatments including vaccines have risks. The question is how many people have side effects or die from the vaccine vs long term health effects or death from the disease, that MIGHT influence how much risk is acceptable in a vaccine. For example, say you...
  7. GIlman

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    I am extremely skeptical of this guys claims. He makes very broad sweeping claims with big words and a microscope about covid, but there isn’t really evidence to support his claims. 1) Covid has to be able to get through the cell membrane, research has shown that this happens by the virus...
  8. GIlman

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    I guess there is a little FaceBook philosophy everyone on the internet, it’s unavoidable. I don’t use Facebook for this very reason. I don’t want what I’m seeing filtered or manicured. I want to see the sausage factory as it where, not some pretty end product Sterilized of the reality of how...
  9. GIlman

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    Very good point, although these will provide a younger skewed “experiment”. Mortality rate of 0.12% for this very young leaning population would still be pretty high, although I believe the person that died was somewhat older than the bulk of the very young crew (40’s 50’s as I recall). I will...
  10. GIlman

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    This is why the federal government was meant to have extremely limited power by the framers of the constitution. Most of what California and NY do I have zero interest in, and that’s fine, so long as Arizona can do as we wish. So many of our problems today exist because we have been forced...
  11. GIlman

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    Actually, I think the diamond princess is more distressing than comforting in outlook. As I’ve said before, the problem with this disease is that you HAVE to keep watching to know what really is going on. It has been 2 months since the diamond princess saga began. That article you reference is...
  12. GIlman

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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-judges-30-day-coronavirus-mask-order-blasted-as-ultimate-government-overreach Can someone explain this to me. Preferably someone in Texas with more direct information. How does a judge pass an order on society in general. Isn’t that a legislatures job...
  13. GIlman

    The Worldwide C0VlD-19 Coronavirus Pandemic Discussion Thread...

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    @biophase it’s Maslow hierarchy of needs. As people drop down they start thinking and acting in more impulsive and irrational ways. Some people are falling in level due to health concerns other due to economic concerns. The impact is the same. They respond more instinctually and less based...
  14. GIlman

    The Worldwide C0VlD-19 Coronavirus Pandemic Discussion Thread...

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    Unless you lock the entire population in a room together and they all get sick in very short order you can never achieve 100% infection. The 40-70% suspected infection number likely comes from the suspected transmission rate (R0) of 2.3-3.6 people initially thought. You can see this from a...
  15. GIlman

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    This is from @MTF article about Chelsea infections. “Still,” he added, “it’s kind of sobering that 30 percent of a random group of 200 people that are showing no symptoms are, in fact, infected. It’s all the more reason for everyone to be practicing physical distancing.” This is disheartening...
  16. GIlman

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    There is an abnormal number of young people (<50) getting seriously sick and dying. But....the question right now is the denominator. Different studies have suggested the denominator anywhere from 23-83x the known cases. However the issues with all these studies is sampling bias, which is at...
  17. GIlman

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    The real issue I have with this Dr. and some others that promulgate similar things is that there is a huge logical incoherency with their arguments. First they state that’s you can’t trust what you are being told, the science is rigged, the system is rigged, and your health is in jeopardy...
  18. GIlman

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    I have been thinking a lot about the reopening. There is still a lot unknown about CV19 including the asymptomatic rate of people already infected and recovered. There was just a study from Stanford where they did antibody testing to see who had previously been infected. They sampled 3300...
  19. GIlman

    Photos from the Bunker (Our Fastlane Photo Journal)

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    Had to get out of the bunker for the week. Took the boys out camping.
  20. GIlman

    How might Covid impact sports longterm

    I have a hard time seeing them filling stadiums for a couple years. The sports themselves will still be valued, but I am kinda thinking the paradigm of consumption may dramatically shift. Maybe this will be the beginning of a real VR revolution.

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