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  1. GIlman

    The Worldwide C0VlD-19 Coronavirus Pandemic Discussion Thread...

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    to find summaries of scientific articles, the best source is pubmed, it’s online free to use. Some link to full articles. Some are just summaries, but you can get a good idea what is going on in the scientific literature. Here is a link to a search on covid and chloroquine. Btw when searching...
  2. GIlman

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    no worries, I don’t take your posts that way at all. I actually appreciate discussions where people challenge each other with well thought out arguments. Your arguments are well thought out with good intentions the point I’m trying to make is that the assumption that this is no different than...
  3. GIlman

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    I feel really really bad for small businesses, my brother owns a small business,my other brother works for one and has no work, my son has a small business that will probably be affected, I have a small business that will be affected. but, as @lowtec said this is just the tip of the iceberg...
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    I read that, and understood it was an assumption (they clearly state that), but the only way for that assumption to be changed is for it to be wrong. In other words we will only know it is wrong in hindsight. The truth is only known as a historical context. By their very nature all...
  5. GIlman

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    I hope your right, but I genuinely believe you are extremely wrong. Please don’t take that personal, I have the utmost respect for you. using H1N1 as a reference, about 1% of people required hospitalization. With CV it has been 20% based on all data we have, that would be 20 million...
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    I’ve been reading this the last hour. It’s a leaked copy of the US Covid19 response plan. Probably the most direct honest source of what’s going on. https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6819-C0VlD-19-response-plan/d367f758bec47cad361f/optimized/full.pdf#page=1 one thing I found shocking...
  7. GIlman

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    I’m not a pulmonologist, so I would trust them when it comes to asthma treatment. My familiarity is more with oral steroids used in transplant and Chrons patients. Oral steroids are systemic, affecting the whole body, inhaled steroids may have a different dynamic as they are more localized to...
  8. GIlman

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    That didn’t take long. We were discussing earlier in this thread governments using cellphone data to track and identify coronavirus contacts, which doesn’t bode well for the future of privacy. https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/17/21183716/coronavirus-C0VlD-19-israel-natanyahu-cellphone-data-tracking
  9. GIlman

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    Things like steroids would be expected to make the infection worse. By steroids I’m assuming you are talking about corticosteroids type steroids such as cortisone, prednisone, prednisolone, etc (not sex steroids like testosterone). Steroids do many things, but they suppress the immune system...
  10. GIlman

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    Just got off the phone with someone in Telluride. Apparently they have had a bunch of children under 4 show up to the ER with breathing problems that tested positive. They are now testing the entire town is what I was told. here is an article I googled about it, maybe there is a better more...
  11. GIlman

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    No, no available test yet. The test we have right now is a PCR test that looks for actual virus material. Once your body clears that through your immune system the test would show negative. In fact that’s how we know that someone has cleared the infection when their test turns negative. As far...
  12. GIlman

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    Just got off of phone call re: planning. Up at Lake Tahoe they have acquired a whole office building and they are working to create negative pressure rooms as an expansion hospital. This is a positive sign we are trying to learn from China and Italy and get ahead of this. I saw someone else...
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    I am 100% certain they are correct. Even though the proportions are smaller, we have known for quite some time that people of all ages end up in the ICU. Expect death rates in the <40 to rise significantly when ICU resources fail. I know this because I have seen healthy teens get critically...
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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/politics/young-people-coronavirus-caution-white-house/index.html There’s lots of reasons young people should take this seriously. They are not nearly as safe as they think.
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    This is probably something a lot of people have missed because there is so much to pay attention to, but they are deregulating the medical field allowing doctors and nurses to cross state lines and work with minimal friction, the governors just have to allow it. nursing, respiratory...
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    A genuine MASSIVE coronavirus business idea/need.

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    I have been thinking a lot about handing the surge capacity. Needs are air containment, climate control, protection from the elements, and electricity. We saw Wuhan make huge hospitals in 10 days. We can do the same. what about using shipping containers, we can space these out, setup...
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    I don’t know if people caught it at the end of trumps conference, but they made reference to New York already running out of ventilators. They also said that there were several previously healthy teen and early 20’s in ICU’s on ventilators. here is an interesting read from evergreen hospital...
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    A genuine MASSIVE coronavirus business idea/need.

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    they look legit. The top one is more comfortable to wear because of the outlet valve they don’t get so humid inside. the bottom style is required during surgery or any sterile procedure. But I’m assuming your taking about for consumer use.
  19. GIlman

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    Reports are Wuhan is beginning to return back to work, seems like most people are staying on quarantine though. My big question that will be answered over the next month, is does the disease start to bloom again as they relax the quarantine. and....are they really relaxing the quarantine...
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    BTW there was a 5.7 earthquake in Utah a bit ago, if anyone has family there. Epicenter 10 miles from SLC. Hopefully that was the big one and not a precursor quake. 5.7 will rattle people but shouldn’t cause much structural damage. Have had several aftershocks in the mid 3’s.

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