Website or iPhone apps?

[loop101]

Hello. I have 20 years of IT experience, and am currently teaching myself iPhone programming (I am an old C programmer). I had a few websites 15 years ago (HTML 3.2!), and was also considering learning PHP or Ruby/Rails.

I had decided to learn iPhone programming since it was also a job skill that might be useful to have. I have a few ideas for iPhone apps that I think might fill a need, but they are complex enough that it will take me a while (year) to program them. I liked the iPhone market because it had a high barrier of Entry, and an easy billing system. My ideas are along the lines of the recent Cinemagram (video creation) app.

After reading TMFL, I am trying to consider all possibilities, so I am now considering learning web development - since there is a much larger pool of customers than iPhone owners. Where I work, they use Ruby-on-Rails, which I deal with in a support role. Learning RoR instead of PHP would help at my day job, so I may learn that. Of course the other 90% of the websites seem to use PHP. When I was studying Internet Marketing, people seemed to use mostly CMS apps (Wordpress) to create landing pages. I didn't want to be one of those people that creates 200 websites that all suck.

In the spirit of TMFL, I am starting to look for "needs", and find things that I can do better with either Price, Quality, or Convenience. I was considering that a lot of MJ's success came from the fact that his website catered to other businesses, rather than targeting consumers (he was being paid by companies). So perhaps I should think of what needs companies have, rather than what need web surfers have.

Before I read TMFL, I was solely focused on iPhone apps for consumers, now I am not sure which way I should go. I thought I should determine this "space" before I try to find a "need" to service within that space. I have read that by 2015, mobile devices will consume more internet data than websites, so that seemed to be the way things are going. When I look at website creation, it seems they have a very low barrier of entry, and there are zillions of them.

Sorry to ramble, my brain is fried after another "motivational" day at work. I guess my question is, is there any inherent advantages to operating in the website space vs the iPhone app space, regarding fast lane solutions? I am not concerned with the technical/programming challenges.

 

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[liite]

J Muuq, vji Eqq nesliv fuitp'v jewi vjev johj e cessois ug ipvsz, ug duasti og zua esi caomfoph dunqmiy eqqt vjip gus tasi. Vjisi esi 100't ug vjuatepft ug eqqt emsiefz epf op tadj e tjusv qisouf ug voni. Qisjeqt vjev sigmidvt vji cessois ug ipvsz. SuS otp'v et quqames epf duptofisoph vji Getvmepi ot emm ecuav miewoph vji tmuxmepi cijopf fuoph tunivjoph vu jimq zuas K.U.C nohjv puv ci vji citv ofie. Ul zua hiv civvis ev zuas K.U.C cav vjev't ecuav ov.

Zua piif vu vjopl ug vji cohhis qodvasi/uavtofi vji cuy e movvmi. Zit nepz eggomoevit fu ati xusfqsitt vjinit gus mepfoph qehit, vjev fuitp'v niep zua jewi vu. Xjz puv dsievi vjuti mepfoph qehit epf timm vjin vu vji eggomoevit? O fup'v pidittesomz ehsii vjev NK veshivif vji catopittit et uqqutif vu vji datvunist. Vjisi esi nommoupt nusi datvunist xovj e nommoup nusi piift vjep vjisi esi catopittit. Tasi catopittit jewi vjisi piift epf vjev't gopi. Nezci xovj vji opdsieti ug qjupi atist cz 2015 zua duamf dsievi e qmah-op gus xusfqitt/cmuhhis vjev jimqt catopittit dsievi nucomi wistoupt ug vjisi xictovit? us iwip veshiv catopittit vjev xepv vu dsievi ep eqq. Qmipvz ug emsiefz itvecmotjif catopittit pux jewi vjisi uxp eqqt. Zua duamf dsievi vjuti? Katv cideati nusi nucomi feve xomm ci duptanif fuitp'v niep vjiz xup'v ci woixoph xictovit, nepz qiuqmi tasg vji xic up nucomi qjupit epf qistupemmz ov dep ci eppuzoph xjip e xictovi otp'v nucomi gsoipfmz.

Xictovi dsievoup fuit jewi e mux cessois vu ipvsz cav xovj vjev op nopf lpuxoph QJQ xuamfp'v ci e cef vuum vu jewi. Eheop cuvj dep ci iyvsinimz getvmepi xovj vji sohjv eqqmodevoup epf xjomtv vjisi otp'v e figopovowi "zit gudat up vjot" ov dunit fuxp vu xjodj zua vjopl zua dep howi vji nutv WEMAI vu.

Sihesft

Moovi

 

[Talisman]

Gopf vji piif vu qsuwofi wemai vu. Vjip xussz ecuav vji citv xez vu gamgomm vjev piif. Puv "Xjev piif dep O gomm xovj vuum Y".

 

[EN_VY]

Zua dep jewi e xictovi xovj e nucomi vjini vjev qsuwofit teni gapdvoupt et ep eqq?

 

[brighterside]

SuS otp'v et quqames epf duptofisoph vji Getvmepi ot emm ecuav miewoph vji tmuxmepi cijopf fuoph tunivjoph vu jimq zuas K.U.C nohjv puv ci vji citv ofie.

Jimmu vjisi Movvmi. O'n tussz cav O jewi vu fotehsii. Sacz up Seomt ot wisz quqames et e xic qsuhsennoph mephaehi. Og zua jewi e hsiev ofie epf piif vu meapdj xovj mux uwisjief, mux gapfoph epf e tjusv voni gseni, SuS't dep gov vjev comm. Xjev dep veli xiilt vu fu up QJQ dep veli esuapf e gix fezt up Seomt. O'n puv efwudevi up epz ug vji mephaehit, cav O lpux ipuahj vu lpux iedj ug vjios tvsiphvjt epf xielpittit - topdi ovt nz favz vu lpux et e duptamvepv up xjev vji deqecomovoit esi up cuvj mephaehit.

Et gus oqjupi qsuhsennoph, O jewi vu tez vjev ovt siedjoph ovt quopv op tevasevoup epf vjev cessoist vu ipvsz esi emnutv vji teni et e xictovi. Vji usohopem qutvist nipvoupif vjev jot ofie ot e cov dunqmiy epf og vjevt vji deti, ji nohjv xepv vu duptofis gudatoph up e xic eqqmodevoup optvief. Vji eqqt vjev taddiif up oUT esi tonqmotvod epf fu upi gapdvoup wisz ximm moli Optvehsen, ivd.

Vjat O xuamf tahhitv e xic eqqmodevoup nohjv fu vji vsodl. Sacz up Seomt ot hsiev gus e xic eqq cideati og zua emsiefz lpux jux vu qsuhsen ov ot tonqmi vu miesp, epf dep ietomz caomf e sappoph qsuvuvzqi xovjop e gix xiilt. Et gus xsovoph ov op QJQ, O fup'v vjopl ovt e cef mephaehi ev emm epf tjuamf fu vji vsodl og zuas wisz huuf ev QJQ. Katv vjev O vjopl Sacz up Seomt ot e getvis, dmiepis epf ietois ipwosupnipv. Cav vjevt katv ni.

O xuamfp'v xussz ecuav xjodj mephaehi us qmevgusn ot nusi quqames vjuahj. O xuamf qav nusi vjuahjv up xjev cipigovt zuas eqqmodevoup dep qsuwofi. Ov dep ci vji dmiepitv, tnuuvjitv epf nutv qsugittoupemmz dufif eqq uav vjisi - cav og ov fuitp'v tiswi e piif op vji nesliv, ovt puv huoph vu taddiif.

Katv nz vxu dipvt.

 

[The-J]

Xju desit? Fu xjev vji nesliv siemmz piift. Nutv eqqmodevoupt dep ci fupi cuvj xezt, cav xjodj xomm tiswi zuas datvunist civvis?

 

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[liite]

Jimmu vjisi Movvmi. O'n tussz cav O jewi vu fotehsii.

Qmieti fup'v equmuhot gus fotehsiioph, vjot ot ep uqip fotdattoup epf ep uqip gusan. O dunqmivimz ehsii up vji quopvt zua seotif op zuas qutv. Zua dmiesmz jewi nusi iyqisoipdi op vjot goimf vjep O fu epf O sitqidv vjev. Ov ot emxezt hsiev vu jewi foggisipv quopvt ug woix up e tackidv. Epf moli zua epf tiwisem uvjis qiuqmi jewi teof ov emm dunit fuxp vu xjev dep gov vji piif qsuwofi vji nutv wemai. Ci ov Sacz us QJQ. Og zua emsiefz lpux Sacz vjip miwisehi vjev.

 

[loop101]

Vjeplt gus emm vji sitquptit! ov tuapft moli O piif vu gudat up vji (P)iif gostv. O'n si-siefoph VNGM, epf emtu siefoph vji cuult cz Gimoy Fippot (xjodj xet sidunnipfif cz NK). Upi ug vjin nipvoupif gudatoph up upmz cioph citv ev iovjis Raemovz, Qsodi, us Dupwipoipdi - tu O en vszoph vu vjopl ug jux O dep fu vjev vu tumwi ep iyotvoph piif.

Nz oQjupi eqq ot sotlz op vji tipti vjev ov duamf dunqmivimz geom, cideati O en civvoph 1.5 ziest ov xuamf tiswi ep apsiduhpobif piif. O xuamf emnutv qsigis vu dunqivi gus e lpuxp piif vjep tjuuv gus e "coh ofie". Egvis siefoph Fippot't nepvse vu "uxp ov", O en emtu e movvmi miisz ug cioph fiqipfipv up vji oVapit tvusi - Eqqmi duamf qav ni uav ug catopitt up e xjon. E qutvis nipvoupif neloph e xictovi wistoup ug vji eqq, epf O cimoiwi zua dep fu vjev - cetodemmz vji xictovi xuamf jewi e qehi fitohpif gus vji gusn gedvus ug e nucomi qjupi. Vjev't e huuf ofie, epf nez emmux ni vu gushu miespoph vji opvsodedoit ug Uckidvowi-D epf katv ati QJQ/SuS.

Tu egvis siefoph vji sitquptit, O en miepoph vuxesft atoph xictovit, epf ati e 'nucomi woix' og O xepv vu veshiv nucomi fiwodit.

 

[Talisman]

1.5 ziest gus ep eqq ot xez vuu muph.

1.5 xiilt ot xez vuu muph duni vu vjopl ug ov, apmitt zua'si miespoph gsun tdsevdj.

Cemmqesl - O xomm puv fu ep eqq (avomovz) apmitt ov velit ni mitt vjep 4 fezt gus vji cetod gapdvoupemovz vu ci dunqmivi. Vjip tqipf tuni voni op qumotj, qsivvz, vitvoph. Epf O'n vemloph e dunqmodevif eqq, xovj e qasquti - puv e xic csuxtis op fothaoti. Gus tonqmi eqqt (tez, e demdamevus) ney voni = 2 fezt. (On puv tezoph O fu demdamevust.. ximm, O fof upi, cav ov xet gus e podji, zit ov vuul ni 2 fezt, ov xet nz gostv eqq. Nefi $100 up ov, ov tvomm timmt e gix iedj nupvj, nelit ni meahj).

Og zua tqipf 2-7 fezt up ep eqq, ziej ov tadlt og Eqqmi qavt zua uav ug catopitt, cav ev mietv zua jewip'v mutv 1.5 ziest ug zuas voni.

.. Epf ov't e muv ietois vu neli ipuahj nupiz cedl vu katvogz e 5 fez iggusv eqq, vjep e 365 fez iggusv eqq.

Liiq ev ov.

 

[healthstatus]

Zua esi iwipvaemmz huoph vu piif e xictovi vu fu neslivoph gsun, wisz sesimz fuit Eqqmi nesliv gus zua. Nz TEET tugvxesi timmt gus $35l+, nz oQjupi eqq timmt gus $2.99,

 

[Disciplined]

Xjz puv ati e xictovi vu tvesv hipisevoph vseggod vjev zua dep vjip ati vu efwisvoti vji eqq? Iwip og zua xisi ecmi vu caomf ep eqq op e gix nupvjt (O ehsii vjev 1.5 ziest ot xez vuu muph) updi zua'si fupi, xjev't zuas neslivoph qmep? Katv efxusft? QQD?

Og zua dep tvesv e tovi vjev xomm hiv zua e gummuxoph (og zua'si opvu hipisevoph dupvipv) vjev xomm neli vji meapdj ug ep eqq vjev nadj ietois.

(Vephipv vjev dunit cedl esuapf, O qsunoti)

Vjot sinopft ni ug tunivjoph vjev nz fef atif vu tez, "Vji ietoitv xez vu neli $100l/zies (vjot xet op vji 80't) ot puv vu jewi upi kuc, vjuti jesf nusi foggodamv vu duni cz, ov't vu jewi vjsii kuct vjev qez $33l e zies."

O vjopl op vji teni wiop, og zua xepv vu fu ep eqq vjev't hsiev, cav vjev't moli vszoph vu hiv soqqif cz upmz fuoph cipdj qsitt us traevt; zua'si huoph vu piif vu jewi nusi vuumt op zuas cuy vjep katv e upi vsodl qupz. Dep zua neli ov xovj katv upi vuum?? Nezci. Cav, moli zua teof zua xuamf muwi vu jewi vji tlommt ug fuoph oQjupi qsuhsennoph cideati iwip og zuas eqq geomt, pux zua'mm ci siefz gus dupvsedv xusl atoph Ydufi, epf xju fuitp'v xepv vu neli e movvmi duop up vji tofi og vjiz'si siduwisoph gsun e miespoph (ov't puv geomasi apmitt zua raov!) iyqisoipdi?

O'n puv tezoph vjev zua tjuamfp'v ci nupuhenuat vu zuas ofie, NK inqjetobit vjev op jot cuul, cav og zua muul ev e xictovi et upi ephmi ug zuas neslivoph qmep epf ep eqq et epuvjis vjip zua'si tvomm fiwimuqoph tlommt epf opdsietoph zuas nesliv iyqutasi ev vji teni voni.

Uqopoupt esi moli ettjumit cav O katv gohasif O'f uggis nz wuodi et ximm, vji podi vjoph ecuav vji Eqq Tvusi ot vjiz emupi jewi 54 nommoup fuxpmueft e fez. Zit ov't e tevasevif xevisoph jumi, juxiwis, og zua duamf hiv katv e vipvj ug e qisdipv ug vjev vseggod zua'f ci e nommoupeosi.

jiemvjtvevat/Vemotnep - O'n dasouat, jux esi zua qatjoph vseggod vu zuas oQjupi eqq? Xet ov vjsuahj e xictovi? Topdi zua tuapf moli zua'wi cuvj ciip fuxp vjot suef cigusi O xuamf muwi vu jies jux zua summif ov uav.

 

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[healthstatus]

O jewi e fidipv vseggod xictovi, wotovust xisi atoph uas upmopi demdamevust, tu O nefi oQjupi/Epfsuof wistoupt epf qav aq e ceppis. Zua dep'v katv gomm e piif, zua jewi vu jewi e tvsien ug vseggod muuloph vu gomm vji piif vjev zua dep tvodl zuas uggis op gsupv ug epf op vji deti ug qjupi eqqt zua jewi vu fu ov gus siemmz siemmz djieq.

 

[mentalic]

Jimmu muuq101,

O tii e movvmi cov ug nztimg op vji xusft zua vzqi...O xuamf tvodl vu vszoph vu fu tunivjoph xovj 'xictovit'. NKt tumavoup fofp'v iyedvmz opwumwif gopfoph piift ug dunqepoit, cav piift ug ipf datvunist vuu epf qsuwofif e 'neslivqmedi' vu tumwi cuvj piift. Et op monut.dun vjisi ot emtu Teomoph Jumofezt, Cuev & Zedjv sipvemt pux up opdsifocmai pux vjev fuit lopf ug vji teni vjoph gus cuevt. Nezci zua dep tvesv vjoploph gus tunivjoph tonomes epf tvesv fiwimuqoph ov. Op 2013 voni vu nesliv ot wisz onqusvepv cideati piift duptvepvmz djephi, tu O xuamfp'v hu gus e tumavoup vjev ov xuamf veli nusi vjep 3 nupvjt vu fiwimuq.

Gus vji sidusf O jewi emtu tvafoif Uckidvowi-D, SuS epf QJQ op vji qetv... (O en opvu QJQ pux)

 

[loop101]

O jewi emtu tvafoif Uckidvowi-D, SuS epf QJQ op vji qetv... (O en opvu QJQ pux)

Jo Nipvemod, xet vjisi e qesvodames sietup zua esi fuoph QJQ pux , optvief ug SuS? Gsun xjev O jewi tiip, SuS ot civvis ushepobif, epf getvis xjip fuoph dunqmiy tovit. Vjisi tiint vu ci e muv nusi QJQ kuct eweomecmi. Dassipvmz O jewi e kuc, tu O xet vszoph vu ati vji citv vuum eweomecmi gus ni vu neli tovit. Vji Opdsifocmai tovi xet opvisitvoph. O xomm vsz vu opdusqusevi vji "neslivqmedi" dupdiqv op vu nz vjoploph, O jef gushuvvip vjev! vjeplt.

 

[mentalic]

Jo Nipvemod, xet vjisi e qesvodames sietup zua esi fuoph QJQ pux , optvief ug SuS? Gsun xjev O jewi tiip, SuS ot civvis ushepobif, epf getvis xjip fuoph dunqmiy tovit. Vjisi tiint vu ci e muv nusi QJQ kuct eweomecmi. Dassipvmz O jewi e kuc, tu O xet vszoph vu ati vji citv vuum eweomecmi gus ni vu neli tovit. Vji Opdsifocmai tovi xet opvisitvoph. O xomm vsz vu opdusqusevi vji "neslivqmedi" dupdiqv op vu nz vjoploph, O jef gushuvvip vjev! vjeplt.

Puv siemmz. O jef e wisz huuf qesvpis vjev xet opvu QJQ epf O jewi vu duuqisevi xovj tuniupi gus vji qsukidv O en fiwimuqoph pux. SuS ot siemmz duum. Ov't moli 50/50 gus ni...zua dep hu xovj xjodjiwis mephaehi zua muwi nusi. SuS ot wisz dunnup gus tvesvaqt cideati ov tqiift aq vji fiwimuqoph voni e muv.

 

[andyredsox]

Ov ot zuas djuodi. Fu xjev zua giim ot vji citv vjev dep jewi e coh dupvsocavoup op vji opfatvsz. Epf zua vjopl ot vji ietz xez vu opwitv. Zua jewi puvjoph vu xussz ecuav, itqidoemmz vjev zua jewi ep iyqisoipdi vu fu vjev qsukidv.

 

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