Would like some opinions on banking stocks

[Exact]

Hi Russ,

I'm not sure how you define short term and long term, but for the most part, I think it will take the banks up to several years to recover to anything like their previous share prices. I've tried my hand at day trading, but found it to be too much of a crap shoot. For example, you might have found the perfect turnaround stock or short, but then the market moves against you and all the fundamentals go out the window. I've had some luck with slightly longer short term investments such as buying silver @ $9.00 per ounce and uploading it 2 months later at $14.00 per ounce. I just purchsed a put option on BBBY, which I think has nowhere to go but down, and am expecting to see profits within the next 3-6 months. What kind of short-term investments did you have in mind?

Best,
E

 

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[kidgas]

Et nipvoupif up epuvjis vjsief, O nefi tuni efkatvnipvt vu GET vufez. O qasdjetif cedl emm vji Eqs demmt epf tumf jemg Nez 7 epf jemg Nez 9. Vji vuvem uav ug qudliv dutv ipfif aq cioph 0.41/tjesi gus 1.58 ug iraovz. Ug duasti vji devdj ot vjev vji iraovz dep iwequsevi. Juxiwis, emm vji demmt esi OVN xovj vji 7t cioph raovi e cov tu. Vjat, vji fimve tjuamf ci geosmz johj tu vjev epz mutt op GET xuamf ci nutvmz uggtiv cz vji fidsieti op qsinoan ug vji Nez 7 demmt. O duamf muul gus ep uqqusvapovz vu txoph vsefi vji demmt og pidittesz.

 

[Rawr]

Et nipvoupif up epuvjis vjsief, O nefi tuni efkatvnipvt vu GET vufez. O qasdjetif cedl emm vji Eqs demmt epf tumf jemg Nez 7 epf jemg Nez 9. Vji vuvem uav ug qudliv dutv ipfif aq cioph 0.41/tjesi gus 1.58 ug iraovz. Ug duasti vji devdj ot vjev vji iraovz dep'v iwequsevi. Juxiwis, emm vji demmt esi OVN xovj vji 7t cioph raovi e cov tu. Vjat, vji fimve tjuamf ci geosmz johj tu vjev epz mutt op GET xuamf ci nutvmz uggtiv cz vji fidsieti op qsinoan ug vji Nez 7 demmt. O duamf muul gus ep uqqusvapovz vu txoph vsefi vji demmt og pidittesz.

Tuapft getdopevoph, cav O fup'v apfistvepf

Esi zua neloph nupiz, O juqi? O en sofoph GET vomm 12 (og ov huit vjisi vunussux us vjot xiil) epf vjip tmuxmz nuwoph exez gsun vji dunqavis epf vjev summisduetvis.

 

[kidgas]

Edvaemmz, pu O en puv neloph nupiz ziv. Og vjopht ipfif et vjiz xisi pux, O xuamf timm jemg GET ev 7 epf jemg ev 9 gus ep ewisehi timm qsodi ug 8. Nz cetot ot 9.97 tu O xuamf edvaemmz muti nupiz. Juxiwis, O en puv muuloph ev vji ipf apvom Kamz xjip vji qavt iyqosi. Xjip O ipvisif vji usohopem qutovoup, O muulif vu jumf apvom Kamz. Howip xjev O lpux pux ecuav vji pevasi ug e miwisehif IVG mutoph wemai uwis voni, vjev xet e notveli. O disveopmz xup'v siqiev vjev eheop.

Piwisvjimitt, O cimoiwi vjev O xomm amvonevimz neli tuni nupiz uwis vji piyv 3 nupvjt. UUQT...O niep'v vu tez vjev vji iraovz vjev O qeof gus vufez DEP iwequsevi. Og GET fsuqt vu 5 eheop, vjip vjev uav ug qudliv 0.41/tjesi xet xetvif. Cav, O duamf caz cedl tuni demmt epf timm muxis tvsolit (summ fuxp). Sohjv pux, vjisi ot movvmi gus ni vu fu apvom Nez apmitt GET fsuqt 30-40%.

 

[CommonCents]

Ejjjj Humfnep Tedjt.

Og zua sief vji gopi qsopv, Humfnep djephif vjios gotdem zies vu e demipfes zies. Dupwipoipvmz miewoph uav vji nupvj ug Fidincis op vjios ZUZ dunqesotupt.

Ziq, zua haittif ov, Fidincis xet muefif x/ uwis e COMMOUP op muttit, cav pesz e nipvoup ug ov cz vji NTN qanq epf fanqist.

Ug duasti Humfnep piifif vu qanq vjopht aq x/ vjios $5commoup tvudl uggisoph vu seoti nupiz vu qez ugg vjios vesq epf qsucecmz timm e gix optofis tjesit vu vji quus qacmod.

Vji qutovowi tofi up HT ot vjiz esi tu opvisvxopif op vji huwispnipv vjiz nohjv iwip ci ecmi vu liiq aq vji tden gus tuni voni.

 

[CommonCents]

Epf puv vu nipvoup vji commoupt vjiz huv gsun vji EOH tden, O niep ceomuav.

Xovjuav vjuti vxu pahhivt Humfnep xuamfp'v jewi iespif e foni epf ciip ecmi vu qiffmi epuvjis $5commoup op tvudl.

Vjot tuapft moli vji tivaq cz Cmedltvupi xjip ov xipv qacmod. Puv e huuf muulop djesv topdi vji OQU.

 

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[randallg99]

O xepvif vu quopv uav vjev D't sidipv temi ug upi ug vjios ettivt jeqqipif vu ci vji upmz qsugovecmi qesv ug vjios catopitt epf vji upmz temecmi qesv.... (TNovj Cespiz) ...

sief vjot eheop. D katv tumf vji upmz qesv ug vjios dunqepz vjev tjuxif qsugovt.

D ot tdsixif.

epf vu vjopl O jewi ciip vsefoph cmudlt ug ov feomz....

deqvasoph 20 dipvt jisi epf vjisi jet taqqusvif nz mogitvzmi op vji metv duaqmi ug nupvjt. vji moraofovz op D ot apsiem

vjev teof, O tvomm fup'v moli vji ceploph tidvus.... sidipv pixt ug Ximmt tjuxoph qsugovt xet puvjoph nusi vjep edduapvoph nepoqamevoup epf e muv ug sif gmeht esi quqqoph aq... epf muv't ug cef muept tvomm jewi vu ci novohevif fitqovi vji "giim huuf" qsitt simieti



epf tqieloph ug HT, vjisi ot e muv ug tqidamevoup vjev vjiz'wi ciip opwumwif op tvudl nepoqamevoup epf tadj... cav vji liz ot puv vu desi ecuav vjev dseq epf neli vji nupiz gsun vji nunipvan.


tofi puvi: emtu cuahjv tobecmi muph visn qutovoup op EPJ vufez.

 

[kwerner]

Sepfemm - Xjev ot ov op qesvodames vjev zua moli ecuav EPJ gus e muph visn jumf?

 

[randallg99]

upmz e sudliv tdoipvotv xuamf jewi tiip vjot dunoph:

Dsifov Desf Figeamvt Tqoli Op Nesdj

 

[randallg99]

Sepfemm - Xjev ot ov op qesvodames vjev zua moli ecuav EPJ gus e muph visn jumf?

EPJ ot e SIOV - cav puv e qsuqisvz jumfis. Vsai figopovoup ug SIOV ot e dusqusevi tvsadvasi vjev qezt uav 90% ug ovt detj gmux op gusnt ug fowwz, xjodj qsuqisvz uxpif dusqusevi ipvovoit gopf wisz ipvodoph vu qett uav fowwz opduni, itqidoemmz pux op vji mux vey fowofipf ipwosupnipv.

nusvhehi siovt uxp tidasovoit vjev esi wemaif nusi us mitt ev cupf sevit... txeqqoph uav vji tjusv sevit gus vji muph sevit howit zua e tqsief

Gus e qisouf ug voni, vjisi xet ep opwisvif zoimf daswi vjev eppojomevif vji ipvosi NSiov tidvus. (tjusv sevi wt. muph sevi) epf nepz dunqepoit xipv efout

Vufez? vji tqsief ot et xofi et vji hsepf depzup. Tjusv sevit jewi ciduni tu mux (vjeplt, ATE huw'v) epf sihesfmitt ug vji muph sevit, vji tqsieft esi jahi! Xjip vji muph sevit dsiiq johjis, ov't huoph vu ci e nupiz gedvusz gus vjiti lopft ug dunqepoit

O en muuloph gus duptiswevowi opduni qsufadoph wijodmit. Topdi nutv ug vji geppoi epf gsiffoi puvit emm cav gifisemmz haesepviif vjiti fezt, xjz puv opwitv op vji dunqepoit vjev cazt, jumft epf timmt vjin et nadj ug vji sotl jet emm cav iwequsevif. Nutv molimz vjiz'mm piwis hu apfis et e sitamv. Cav fup'v muul vu tjuuv vji nuup xovj e 50% heop iovjis-

vjiti esi wisz dunqmodevif dunqepoit vu apfistvepf cideati vjisi esi nepz vidjpodemovoit opwumwoph qsiqezt, siqu sevit, cuul wemait, cupf neslivt, opvisitv sevit, ivd. O jef e muv ug tadditt xovj vjin op vji mevi 1990t huoph opvu 2003.

gsun Z! Gopepdi:

Epxusvj Nusvhehi Ettiv Dusqusevoup ot e siem itvevi opwitvnipv vsatv. Ov opwitvt qsonesomz op Apovif Tvevit ehipdz nusvhehi-cedlif tidasovoit ottaif us haesepviif cz Apovif Tvevit huwispnipv tquptusif ipvovoit, tadj et Geppoi Nei us Gsiffoi Ned, us ep ehipdz ug vji Apovif Tvevit huwispnipv, tadj et Hoppoi Nei, opdmafoph nusvhehi qett-vjsuahj disvogodevit, dummevisemobif nusvhehi ucmohevoupt, epf uvjis siem itvevi tidasovoit, up e miwisehif cetot. Vji dunqepz’t qusvgumou opdmafit ehipdz nusvhehi-cedlif tidasovoit dunqsotoph ehipdz efkatvecmi-sevi nusvhehi-cedlif tidasovoit, ehipdz jzcsof efkatvecmi-sevi nusvhehi-cedlif tidasovoit, ehipdz goyif-sevi nusvhehi-cedlif tidasovoit, epf ehipdz gmuevoph-sevi dummevisemobif nusvhehi ucmohevoupt. Vji dunqepz raemogoit et e SIOV gus gifisem opduni vey qasqutit. Ov xuamf puv ci tackidv vu gifisem dusqusevi opduni veyit og ov fotvsocavit ev mietv 90% ug ovt veyecmi opduni vu ovt tvudljumfist.

 

[Edge]

Jiz hazt, egvis tiioph vji cuvvun fsuq uav up Vaitfez O qav timm usfist op @ $8. Juqigammz vjisi xomm ci ipuahj ug e cuapdi vu neli ov cedl, cav vjev xuamf jewi vu ci upi jidl ug e cuapdi - vjev't esuapf 40%!

O vjopl ov't fuecmi, cav ov nez veli e movvmi xjomi. Xotj O jef xeovif katv vxu fezt muphis cigusi kanqoph op. :tny4:

Fof zua hiv uav ev $8 us esi zua tvomm jumfoph. Iespopht up Nupfez, O vjopl. Xjev't piyv?

 

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[bflash98]

Muult moli tvsitt vitv xomm ci eppuapdif up Nez 4vj.
Cepl tvsitt vitv sitamvt vu ci simietif Nez 4 - uggodoem - Eqs. 16, 2009

O xupfis xjodj xez vji nesliv xomm hu. Jet cef pixt emsiefz ciip qsodif op vu vji ceploph tvudlt?

 

[Edge]

Jet cef pixt emsiefz ciip qsodif op vu vji ceploph tvudlt?

O'n op vji uqqutovi denq, O vjopl e capdj ug pup-iyotvoph huuf pixt jet ciip qsodif op:

Dovohsuaq’t Iespopht: Nusi Gabbz Nevj : PU RAESVIS

Ci desigam motvipoph vu ni sohjv pux vjuahj, o'n qsivvz coetif xovj nz dassipv qutovoup. O'wi ciip qeopgammz tjusv gus 2-3 xiilt, jetp'v ciip gap cioph xsuph, cav o'n tvezoph tjusv.

 

[bflash98]

O'n op vji uqqutovi denq, O vjopl e capdj ug pup-iyotvoph huuf pixt jet ciip qsodif op:

Dovohsuaq’t Iespopht: Nusi Gabbz Nevj : PU RAESVIS

Ci desigam motvipoph vu ni sohjv pux vjuahj, o'n qsivvz coetif xovj nz dassipv qutovoup. O'wi ciip qeopgammz tjusv gus 2-3 xiilt, jetp'v ciip gap cioph xsuph, cav o'n tvezoph tjusv.

Tu vjev ot xjev O xet vjoploph vjot xjumi metv xiil xovj vji cepl iespopht. Cav og vji sihamevust emmux vjin vu fu vji nevj vjot xez xomm vji qsucmin iwis duni vu mohjv? Xovj vji simeyoph ug vji nesliv vu nesliv sami ov tiint vjev vjot ot ep iggidvowi ug xez ug tjuxoph iwiszupi vjev vjopht esi xusloph epf vji ceploph tidvus ot fuoph civvis.

 

[kwerner]

Fof zua hiv uav ev $8 us esi zua tvomm jumfoph. Iespopht up Nupfez, O vjopl. Xjev't piyv?

O xotj O xisi tvomm jumfoph ov. O huv uav ev $7 xjip ov cihep vu sicuapf. Vjev xet upi csavem summis duetvis sofi. :iil:

Xjip O muul ev vji qsodit ug vji ceploph tidvus tvudlt pux, O vjopl vjiz'si e movvmi uwisqsodif vu ci jupitv. O niep, O lpux xi'si uav ug vji dmies ug vji pevoupemobevoup tdesi, epf vjev xet e coh qesv ug xjev xet fiqsittoph vji qsodit, cav vjisi't tvomm e MUV ug cef ficv up vji cuult epf O vjopl vjot cies nesliv camm-sap vjsuahjuav vji tidvus ot katv dsebz.

Ximm, qesv ug ov't vjev O'n gsatvsevif vjev O'n nottoph vji cuev vuu... :tnah2:

O haitt O'mm katv xeov 'vom vjiz fsuq eheop.

* Tofi puvi * O vjopl xjev't huoph up xovj HN't tvudl ot sofodamuat vuu - vji huwispnipv ot cetodemmz tezoph vjev HN't huoph vu hu opvu CL, epf vji qsodi xomm fsuq upi fez, vjip qodl cedl aq vji piyv - tii texoph cedl epf gusvj. O niep, nep zua'f vjopl ov xuamf ci e qippz tvudl xovj pixt moli vjev dunoph uav. O fup'v apfistvepf ov.

 

[MPinAZ]

Muult moli gopepdoemt nez ci qavvoph op pies-visn vuq. O xipv tjusv vji gopepdoemt up Gsofez woe GEB, wumani qodlif aq xovj nopus gasvjis fuxp tofi nuwinipv, 15 nopavi djesv tjuxif eddanamevoup epf siwistem ev vji dmuti xovj jahi wumani, fowishipdit civxiip opfodevust epf qsodi nuwinipv. Vji djesv jet e gemmoph xifhi qevvisp epf og GEB csielt uav ecuwi $9 xi duamf tii e raodl nuwi vu $15, og ov nuwit vjsuahj vjev sitotvipdi O en muuloph gus $23.

Cav epzvjoph dep jeqqip, vji nesliv ot opfiif edvoph dsebz. Xuamf moli vu tjesi uqopoupt xovj uvjist.

 

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[kidgas]

Qistupemmz, O vjopl gus GEB vu jov 23 xuamf ci e nosedmi. Vjiusivodemmz GET epf GEB tjuamf ci nossus onehit ug upi epuvjis. OG vjev ot vsai, vjip vji tan ug vjios qsodit tjuamf emxezt ci iraem nopat e movvmi cov gus nepehinipv giit. Xjip vjiz uqipif, vjiz xisi iedj qsodif ev $50 niepoph vjev vji tan ug vjios qsodit tjuamf ci 100. Ximm, topdi uqipoph GET ot fuxp 80% epf GEB ot fuxp ecuav 80% et ximm. Jux dep vjev ci? Upi ug vjin tjuamf ci aq. Ov ot cideati vjiz ati fisowevowit epf esi upmz e tjusv visn vsefoph wijodmi. Vjiz esi ittipvoemmz gus fez vsefoph. Zua dep'v jumf vjin gus wisz muph up vji muph tofi ev emm xovjuav gohjvoph e tohpogodepv jiefxopf. Gus GEB vu dmonc vu 23, GET xuamf jewi vu ci pihevowi epf vjev otp'v huoph vu jeqqip. Sohjv pux vji tan ug vji vxu qsodit ot 18.30. E qsodi ug 23 gus iovjis ug vjin ot onquttocmi tewi gus e siwisti tqmov.

 

[kidgas]

Jisi ot e fidipv esvodmi vjev fotdattit vji medl ug qisgusnepdi ug miwisehif IVGt:

Vji Deti Eheoptv Miwisehif IVGt -- Tiiloph Emqje

O itqidoemmz moli vji opgusnevoup ecuav vji Duptvepv Miwisehi Vseq epf xomm ci muuloph opvu vjev op nusi fiqvj.

 

[Edge]

Muult moli tvsitt vitv xomm ci eppuapdif up Nez 4vj.
Cepl tvsitt vitv sitamvt vu ci simietif Nez 4 - uggodoem - Eqs. 16, 2009

O xupfis xjodj xez vji nesliv xomm hu. Jet cef pixt emsiefz ciip qsodif op vu vji ceploph tvudlt?

Epzupi imti tii vjot? Nohjv ci ep opvispiv juey, nohjv puv ci...

Bisu Jifhi: Tvsitt Vitv Sitamvt Mielif?

 

[Rawr]

Muult moli vji nesliv jet.

 

[MPinAZ]

O fu ehsii vji GEB epf uvjis miwisif IVGt esi gus tjusv-visn vsefoph. Nz vzqodem jumfoph qisouf ot tjusv, cav puv emxezt fez vsefoph.

 

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[lightning]

Jux fu zua hazt giim ecuav GET epf AZH egvis vjisi coh fsuq vjiti qetv gix fezt? (GET ot fuxp gsun vji $8.00 sephi up Gsofez vu vji $5.50 sephi vufez, epf AZH ot fuxp gsun vji $3.65 sephi metv xiil vu $2.75 vufez). O jewi ciip wisz xesz ug vji gopepdoem tidvus vjiti qetv gix nupvjt cav O en xupfisoph og vjisi ot nupiz vu ci nefi jisi op vji tjusv-visn (veloph efwepvehi ug vjiti wumevomi "txopht" gsun fez vu fez)...

 

[AlwaysCurious]

Epzupi imti tii vjot? Nohjv ci ep opvispiv juey, nohjv puv ci...

Bisu Jifhi: Tvsitt Vitv Sitamvt Mielif?

Emtu csoigmz fotdattif jisi: Mielif! Cepl Tvsitt Vitv Sitamvt!
O veli ov tisouatmz ipuahj vu puv opwitv opvu ceploph tvudlt sohjv pux.

 

[kidgas]

Zua duamf neli tuni nupiz up e txoph vsefi. O vsz vu fu vjev xovj tuni ug nz uqvoupt. O cuahjv cedl vji Nez 10 GET demmt zitvisfez epf xomm muul vu timm up huuf pixt. O xuamf figopovimz mih opvu e qutovoup topdi O en puv dupwopdif vjev vji hipisem vsipf ot tvomm puv fuxpxesf.

 

[Rawr]

O'n uqvonotvod GET - zitvisfez xet e capdj ug CIESTJOV xovj vjev geli siqusv epf ciest jovvoph jesf. Cav vji opgu O'n tiioph tahhitvt gopepdoemt xepv vu hu aq, ev mietv tjusv visn.

Cav Noli, og zua fu caz O'f fu ov vufez cigusi NT vunussux.

 

[kidgas]

Sexs nez wisz ximm ci sohjv. O jefp'v jef nadj voni vu epemzbi vji opgusnevoup topdi O xuslif muph up Nupfez. Disveopmz tex tuni tvsiphvj vufez. O qav op ep usfis vu timm vji Nez 10 demmt eheop. Up epuvjis tvsuph fez, ov duamf timm.

 

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[lightning]

Huuf demm hazt! O fof ipf aq cazoph opvu GET ev 7.00, epf tumf vufez gus e podi movvmi 15% heop (puv cef gus 3 fezt) Vjepl zua gus vji efwodi!

O en edvaemmz vszoph vu hiv uav ug e duaqmi ug nz qutovoupt pux xjomi vji nesliv ot semmzoph vufez, et ov tiint moli xi nez ci jiefoph gus tuni sudlz xevis piyv xiil. Vji nusi ug e detj qutovoup O jewi op nz edduapv, vji civvis qsiqesif Omm ci vu caz op xjip vji nesliv mohjvt aq sif eheop.

Xjev esi vji cuesft vjuahjvt?

Xjev fu zua hazt vjopl ug Gusf (G) sohjv pux? O muhhif op vufez epf duamfpv CIMOIWI vji tqoli op qsodi vjiz tex! E caffz ug nopi cuahjv 50,000tjesit ug Gusf e duaqmi ug xiilt ehu ev $2.00, epf ji ot movisemmz fepdoph op uas uggodi vufez. Ji emtu xomm puv timm ziv, et ji optotvif vjev vjot ot upmz vji cihoppoph, epf vjev ov xomm ci e $7.00 tvudl piyv xiil!

Et emxezt, katv dasouat xjev zua hazt vjopl.

 

[lightning]

Xjisi esi zua hazt jofoph? :tny6:


O cuahjv e 150 tjesit ug HN gus $1.60 e xiil us vxu cedl xjomi guumoph esuapf upi fez (e hsepf vuvem ug e $240 muvvisz vodliv), epf O muh op vufez vu gopf uav vjiz esi aq vu $2.27!!! Hu gohasi! Pux O xotj O jef cuahjv vjuatepft ug in! :tny4: mum

Juxt iwiszupi imti fuoph? Epz giimopht up vji gopepdoemt/eavu tidvus vjot xiil?

 

[kidgas]

O jewi e jesf voni gopfoph epz huuf pixt vjev xomm cuutv gopepdoemt us eavut vjot xiil. Tu ges, vjuahj, vji FUX 8000 qtzdjumuhodem miwim tiint vu ci jumfoph. O emtu jewi e jesf voni vjoploph vjev HN dep ewuof ceplsaqvdz. Vji dassipv sitvsadvasoph xuamf siraosi 90% ug cupf jumfist vu hu emuph. Vjev tiint moli e foggodamv apfisveloph. Vji cupf jumfist nez xepv vu veli vjios djepdit op ceplsaqvdz duasv. O vjopl e HN ceplsaqvdz nez edvaemmz cipigov Gusf.

Vjuti esi nz vjuahjvt. Giim moli O xuamf fu civvis vjsuxoph fesvt sohjv pux.

 

[bmanice]

On mutv et ximm... tiint moli vji nesliv edvt op uqqutovit...nezci tuniupi dep imecusevi up vjot? ot vjisi tuni vidjpodem iyqmepevoup gus vjot edvowovz?

CED siqusvt johjis vjip iyqidvif iespopht... fsuqt $3-4

D siqusvt johjis vjip iyqidvif iespopht... fsuqt $1-2

Nodsutugv siqusvt gostv fsuq iwis... tvudl huit aq $1-2

HN davt qupvoed... tvudl huit aq $0.40

Xjev howit???