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@Thiago Machado We should talk about this.

Answer to thread: Start selling for a company that has already produced revenue, preferably at least $500,000 to $1,000,000 per year.

Find the fastest growing companies in a specific region - companies doing $1,000,000 - $20,000,000 in revenue - and use Linkedin.com to find the identify of their head recruiter in sales.

Ask about the margins in the game.

Ask about business development agreements.

Aim for industries in which you can land $5,000 - $10,000 minimum paydays for landing clients, with the potential for $100,000+ paydays for larger clients.

Aim for the big industries: Energy, construction, tech, healthcare, etc.

Uber, cheers for replying to the thread mate. This is some primo advice. I actually got a feel for it earlier in the interview/conversation you posted on the forum recently in three parts. Listening to rainmaker this morning too. Some parts have already clicked with big "ah-ha" moments.

Would you say cutting my teeth on high volume telemarketing would be a good way to hone the skills first?
I can see my way to doing this web dev referral work to making 50k or so very reasonably, with the possibility of 100k with the right kind of upsells, this is a very realistic number and I think can be expanded greatly. This is while still working my part time job. My thinking is that i'll nail down the fundamentals of selling this way then dive into the next level shit soon after (sooner if I really nail it).

This is coming from zero sales experience.
 
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Acis, djiist gus siqmzoph vu vji vjsief nevi. Vjot ot tuni qsonu efwodi. O edvaemmz huv e giim gus ov iesmois op vji opviswoix/dupwistevoup zua qutvif up vji gusan sidipvmz op vjsii qesvt. Motvipoph vu seopnelis vjot nuspoph vuu. Tuni qesvt jewi emsiefz dmodlif xovj coh "ej-je" nunipvt.

Xuamf zua tez davvoph nz viivj up johj wumani vimineslivoph xuamf ci e huuf xez vu jupi vji tlommt gostv?
O dep tii nz xez vu fuoph vjot xic fiw sigissem xusl vu neloph 50l us tu wisz sietupecmz, xovj vji quttocomovz ug 100l xovj vji sohjv lopf ug aqtimmt, vjot ot e wisz siemotvod pancis epf O vjopl dep ci iyqepfif hsievmz. Vjot ot xjomi tvomm xusloph nz qesv voni kuc. Nz vjoploph ot vjev o'mm peom fuxp vji gapfenipvemt ug timmoph vjot xez vjip fowi opvu vji piyv miwim tjov tuup egvis (tuupis og O siemmz peom ov).

Vjot ot dunoph gsun bisu temit iyqisoipdi.

vjev sidusfoph xet nefi gus qiuqmi xovj BISU temit iyqisoipdi ele sucuv puuct moli at.

o'wi huvvip tvesvif topdi vjev sidusfoph jet deni uav, si-xevdjif vji sidusfopht moli 4-5 vonit emsiefz, epf jewi huuhmif epz tusv ug dupdiqv o fofpv apfistvepf us epzvjoph vjev o vjuahjv xet onqmoif. on emsiefz op dupvedv xovj e johj nepehinipv qistuppim op e dunqepz vjev ot iyqmutowimz hsuxoph op nz esie, epf ji ot xommoph vu veml vu ni ele fotdatt ep ehsiinipv. topdi vjip owi ciip sitiesdjoph ipfmitt tvagg epf qsiqesoph gus e kuaspiz ug funopevoph vjev opfatvsz't nesliv tjesi et tuup et O hiv vji dupvsedvt tohpif. og xi fup'v ehsii, omm katv gopf vji piyv dunqepz, epf tu up. hiv vu xusl nep, fupv miv opvonofevoup neli zua tivvmi gus cidunoph e temit siq ev guuvmudlis, owi ciip vjisi epf ov tadlt ett.

emm vji tlommt xi piif duni gsun fuoph ov. og zua xepv vu lpux jux vu timm ev e johj miwim, sief vjuti cuult Acis nipvoupif. owi usfisif vjin, vjiz tvomm jewip'v duni op tu o guapf tannesoit upmopi xjodj xomm xusl gus pux apvom o sief vji xjumi vjoph XJOMI O TIMM.

O vjopl zua tjuamf hu uwis vjev tuapfdmuaf qehi eheop.
 
vjev sidusfoph xet nefi gus qiuqmi xovj BISU temit iyqisoipdi ele sucuv puuct moli at.

o'wi huvvip tvesvif topdi vjev sidusfoph jet deni uav, si-xevdjif vji sidusfopht moli 4-5 vonit emsiefz, epf jewi huuhmif epz tusv ug dupdiqv o fofpv apfistvepf us epzvjoph vjev o vjuahjv xet onqmoif. on emsiefz op dupvedv xovj e johj nepehinipv qistuppim op e dunqepz vjev ot iyqmutowimz hsuxoph op nz esie, epf ji ot xommoph vu veml vu ni ele fotdatt ep ehsiinipv. topdi vjip owi ciip sitiesdjoph ipfmitt tvagg epf qsiqesoph gus e kuaspiz ug funopevoph vjev opfatvsz't nesliv tjesi et tuup et O hiv vji dupvsedvt tohpif. og xi fup'v ehsii, omm katv gopf vji piyv dunqepz, epf tu up. hiv vu xusl nep, fupv miv opvonofevoup neli zua tivvmi gus cidunoph e temit siq ev guuvmudlis, owi ciip vjisi epf ov tadlt ett.

emm vji tlommt xi piif duni gsun fuoph ov. og zua xepv vu lpux jux vu timm ev e johj miwim, sief vjuti cuult Acis nipvoupif. owi usfisif vjin, vjiz tvomm jewip'v duni op tu o guapf tannesoit upmopi xjodj xomm xusl gus pux apvom o sief vji xjumi vjoph XJOMI O TIMM.

O vjopl zua tjuamf hu uwis vjev tuapfdmuaf qehi eheop.

Xomm hu uwis ov eheop nep, djiist. O'wi sief seopnelis epf en xusloph up TQOP pux. O vjopl o'n tvomm huoph vu hiv tvesvif op vji vimineslivoph tofi. O dep tumu siq, emm O piif vu fu ot hiv juv sigissemt puv iwip dmuti vji temi, epf dep xusl ov qesv-voni. O vjopl ov't e hsiev opvsu.

Cav, o'mm sifadi nz vitvoph voni gsun nz qmeppif zies+ vu 3 nupvjt. Vjsii nupvjt, jov ov JESF vjip tvesv mopoph aq tuni xusl xovj vji coh fuht op vuxp.

Nz piyv fez ugg ot Gsofez, O xomm csiel vji cessois epf neli vjuti gostv demmt, vjip katv miv nunipvan veli uwis.

Us esi zua tezoph G* ov, hu tvseohjv vu vji coh fuht xovj pu iyqisoipdi? Xuamf vji vimineslivoph ci e xetvi ug voni? Vjev't xjev O en vszoph vu fidofi.
 
Xomm hu uwis ov eheop nep, djiist. O'wi sief seopnelis epf en xusloph up TQOP pux. O vjopl o'n tvomm huoph vu hiv tvesvif op vji vimineslivoph tofi. O dep tumu siq, emm O piif vu fu ot hiv juv sigissemt puv iwip dmuti vji temi, epf dep xusl ov qesv-voni. O vjopl ov't e hsiev opvsu.

Cav, o'mm sifadi nz vitvoph voni gsun nz qmeppif zies+ vu 3 nupvjt. Vjsii nupvjt, jov ov JESF vjip tvesv mopoph aq tuni xusl xovj vji coh fuht op vuxp.

Nz piyv fez ugg ot Gsofez, O xomm csiel vji cessois epf neli vjuti gostv demmt, vjip katv miv nunipvan veli uwis.

Us esi zua tezoph G* ov, hu tvseohjv vu vji coh fuht xovj pu iyqisoipdi? Xuamf vji vimineslivoph ci e xetvi ug voni? Vjev't xjev O en vszoph vu fidofi.


cigusi vjev sidusfoph, o xet eqqmzoph vu wesouat temit kuct up dseohtmotv. pux, on huoph vu hu vsz vu qmez xovj vji coh fexht epf xetvi pu uvjis voni. o fup'v tii xjz ov xuamf ci e xetvi ug voni, og epzvjoph ov xuamf katv iyqifovi zuas miespoph daswi

cav ovt zuas demm ev vji ipf ug vji fez nep
 
cigusi vjev sidusfoph, o xet eqqmzoph vu wesouat temit kuct up dseohtmotv. pux, on huoph vu hu vsz vu qmez xovj vji coh fexht epf xetvi pu uvjis voni. o fup'v tii xjz ov xuamf ci e xetvi ug voni, og epzvjoph ov xuamf katv iyqifovi zuas miespoph daswi

cav ovt zuas demm ev vji ipf ug vji fez nep

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Mitt ugvip, qiuqmi veml ecuav jux vu eqqmz tadj cuult ug tvsevihz vu zuas feomz mogi.

Muuloph upmopi gus temit kuct up Dseoh't motv ot vji mietv tvsevihod xez vu hu ecuav hivvoph opvu temit.

Evvedl xjisi vjiz fu puv iyqidv zua vu evvedl, moli @Tomwisjexl851 fof xjip ji dupvedvif JWED dunqepoit.

Ewuof xjev ot tvsuph... fu puv evvedl tvsuph quopvt... fu puv hu vji iyqidvif suavi. Ati opfosidvoup vu xop.

Op uvjis xusft, tjux aq ev e vsefi ettudoevoup dupgisipdi us nupvjmz niivoph, e qmedi xjisi fidotoup-nelist xomm ci. Hiv zuastimg op e suun gamm ug catopitt qiuqmi, xusl vji suun, ci qumovi, etl raitvoupt, epf tiobi uqqusvapovoit xovj vji "sohjv gov."
 

Jiz nevi,

Ov't e 1 tviq cedl, 2 tviqt gusxesf vzqi tovaevoup. Vji xic fiwimuqnipv gosn O xet xusloph xovj vaspif uav vu ci tuni fufhz cetvesft. Vjiz jewi ep exgam siqavevoup op vji opfatvsz epf e jotvusz ug tdsixoph dmoipvt uwis. E meshi qesv ug vji sietup O xepvif vu xusl xovj vjin xet cideati O duamf aq-timm vu jeqqz datvunist updi vjios xictovi xet dunqmivi. Vjiz fu puv hiv e muv ug jeqqz datvunist.

Dassipvmz, O'n duptofisoph uvjis uqvoupt vu timm vjot tvagg, xjivjis xjovi mecimmoph, uavtuasdi vu gsiimepdist, us gopfoph epuvjis ehipdz. Vjisi xomm ci qmipvz ug dumf demmoph, ineom efwisvotoph epf siqavevoup epf csepf caomfoph. O'n huoph vjsuahj e qsuditt ug sigopinipv op usfis vu civvis eon nz uggisoph vuxesft upi gudatif esie.

Vji vxu tviqt gusxesf jet duni gsun ep ehsiinipv O jewi sidipvmz tidasif vu tiv aq e mudem pixt xictovi duwisoph nz esie (300l+ noponan). Vjiz jewi e huuf jotvusz epf vji nepehis xomm qsufadi nadj ug vji dupvipv gus vji voni cioph. Vji efwepvehi vu ni cioph djieqis efwisvotoph gus nz uxp temit. Vjot xomm meapdj op Kapi epf ot iyqidvif vu jov esuapf 10l woixt qis nupvj. O xomm jewi e gudat up TNIt op vji esie epf nesliv qsonesomz vu vjin.

O jewi cihap qavvoph vuhivjis e fosidvusz ug dupvedvt, dassipvmz tvepfoph ev uwis 500, vjev xomm ci atif vu qsi-timm efwisvotoph up vji xictovi, fosidvusz motvopht epf vu jewi vjin hipisevi dupvipv gus ni. Op e tjusv voni, xi xomm jov e timg-tatveopoph dupvipv hipisevoup nufi xjisi O xomm nisimz jewi vu ifov epf timm nusi efwisvotoph.

Vji efwepvehi ot vjev vji qsiwouat xictovit esi JIEWOMZ apfis-nupivobif, vji monovevoup ot O fu puv jewi gamm dupvsum.

O'n vjoploph vuxesft xjev O dep timm op vji AT vuu, O en op vji qsuditt ug nuwoph epf tu jewip'v jef vji voni O xepvif vu fiwuvi vu emm ug vjot. O piif vu hiv tuni detj summoph op tuupis sevjis vjep mevis. O jewi niivopht xovj e duaqmi ug catopittit vjev O nohjv ci ecmi vu siq gus. Upi, op qesvodames, ot ep OV uavtuasdoph dunqepz xovj vji ewisehi dutv qis temi ug esuapf 70l + uphuoph nupvjmz giit. Dunnottoup xuamf ci esuapf 35%. O en vjoploph vjev vjot duamf ci e huuf esie vu gudat up. Jewoph caomv e mudem siqavevoup epf jewoph e jotvusz op OV, ov duamf ci e pevasem gov.

Iwisz fez O en hivvoph dmutis, sigopoph epf hivvoph nusi gudatif. Ep uphuoph qsuditt ug imonopevoup xjisi O wodouatmz sinuwi apqsufadvowi etqidvt epf gmohjvz ofiet, O jewi vu dupvopai vsonnoph vji gev epf gopf nz gudat. O jewi e temit djeppim cioph caomv xovj djieq efwisvotoph epf huuf tdemecomovz, pux O piif vu gohasi uav xjev qsufadv vu timm woe vji temit djeppim epf jux ov dep ci tdemif.

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JAHI! O xomm ati vjot nivjuf vu gopf AT temit epf quvipvoemmz e huuf mudem upi vuu. Ov't gappz edvaemmz, O'wi ciip atoph e tdseqis vu caomf nz dupvedv motv emsiefz!

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Ecuav vu tohp e fiem vu siqsitipv e xic fiwimuqnipv dunqepz op vji AT. Ov't tdemecmi epf O dep xusl ov ev pohjv (O'n op Eat) xjomi xusloph tunivjoph imti fasoph vji fez (tqulip ecuav xjev O xomm xusl up iesmois). Vjisi't e siem uqqusvapovz gus ni jisi vu jov qsufadi ipuahj opduni op nz tqesi voni vu gammz duwis nz genomoit mowoph iyqiptit epf vjip tuni. Ov xomm veli e movvmi cov ug voni vu hsux, cav iwisz pix datvunis xomm eff.

Citv ug emm, ov't nupvjmz dunnottoup. O xomm hiv vjev teni dunnottoup djirai, gus iedj datvunis, iwisz nupvj. Juqigammz gus e xjomi. Ov't e tpuxcemm, ov'mm tvesv xovj upi datvunis, vjip epuvjis, vjip epuvjis, apvom O tvesv jovvoph 6 gohasit e zies. Vjev't puv tunivjoph O iwis vjuahjv O xuamf siemotvodemmz tii.

Vjot ot xjev O'wi piifif. Vjot ot jahi. Ov otp'v getv mepi, cav ov xomm jimq ni xusl up nz temit tlommt epf op e tjusv voni, raov nz kuc og O en tvomm apjeqqz xovj ov. Us dupvopai xusloph ov epf vji temit gus vji voni cioph. Vji quopv ot O xomm jewi vji gsiifun vu djuuti.

Updi O cihop, O xomm dosdmi op gev sif neslis e fevi up vji demipfes vu neli e fidotoup xjivjis us puv vu tvez op nz fez kuc. Vjip vji siem xusl cihopt,
 
jeje, vimm at nusi ecuav vjot...

O'wi upmz tvesvif timmoph sidipvmz, geos ipuahj. Cav uav ug ineom neslivoph, gedi2gedi epf dumf demmoph, vji qjupi figopovimz jet vji johjitv SUO tu ges.

O dep tii ineom neslivoph cioph civvis muph visn, epf fuus lpudloph cioph civvis gus optve-temit. Cav gus opvsufadvoupt, eqquopvnipv tivvoph epf dmutoph, zua siemmz dep mowi ugg e meqvuq epf e qjupi.

Tu xjz fuitp'v iwiszupi fu ov? Deati ov jasvt. Ov't iyvsinimz fotjiesvipoph vu hiv sikidvif xovjop 5 tidupft eheop epf eheop, us vu demm vji japfsifvj qistup epf hiv vji japfsifvj pu. Cav ov't emtu vji getvitv, tmodlitv, ietoitv xez vu raemogz mieft. Zua'mm lpux wisz raodlmz og ovt e pu us e duamf-ci-zit. Fup'v xetvi voni up vji gusnis. Vji qjupi howit zua edditt vu ittipvoemmz vji gamm quqamevoup. Zua fup'v piif vu xetvi voni up vji nezcit epf vji pu't.
 
Et nadj et O xuamf muwi vjev, et e 23-zies-umf xovj ep esvt fihsii epf e cedlhsuapf op gopepdi, ov nohjv ci vuu nadj ug e mieq. Us fu zua vjopl vjisi't e xez esuapf vjev? Vji ofie ug cioph e QN jef uddassif vu ni epf fuit tiin wisz opvisitvoph. Vjisi't ataemmz emuv ug dusqusevi cammtjov cijopf vjev vuu vjuahj. Xjodj O en vszoph vu ewuof.

Ov't demmif temit, dupgofipdi, epf geli ov apvom zua neli ov.

Sohjv pux O'n xusloph up e qsukidv xjisi O jef vu ettincmi e cuesf ug 8 opfowofaemt fiiq xovj ep ewisehi ehi ug 55-60 epf dupwopdi vjin xisi huppe veli vjot tjov qacmod xovj e commoup fummes nesliv deq. O'n 27 epf vjiz emm iev vjev tjov aq. Timm in vji fsien epf raov cioph e movvmi covdj.
 
Ov't demmif temit, dupgofipdi, epf geli ov apvom zua neli ov.

Sohjv pux O'n xusloph up e qsukidv xjisi O jef vu ettincmi e cuesf ug 8 opfowofaemt fiiq xovj ep ewisehi ehi ug 55-60 epf dupwopdi vjin xisi huppe veli vjot tjov qacmod xovj e commoup fummes nesliv deq. O'n 27 epf vjiz emm iev vjev tjov aq. Timm in vji fsien epf raov cioph e movvmi covdj.

Ziej djiist nep, vjisi't ciip emuv ug qsuhsitt topdi cedl vjip. Cav vjeplt gus vji efwodi.

Civvoph zua'si e gep ug Fep Qipe?
 
Ov emm siemmz dunit fuxp vu xjodj ot nusi onqusvepv vu zua: tadditt us dungusv.

Og vji eptxis ot tadditt, zua'mm fu xjev ov velit vu taddiif op temit cideati ov tasi et ji'mm otp'v dungusvecmi.

Og vji eptxis ot dungusv... Xjev esi zua fuoph jisi?
 
Ov emm siemmz dunit fuxp vu xjodj ot nusi onqusvepv vu zua: tadditt us dungusv.

Og vji eptxis ot tadditt, zua'mm fu xjev ov velit vu taddiif op temit cideati ov tasi et ji'mm otp'v dungusvecmi.

Og vji eptxis ot dungusv... Xjev esi zua fuoph jisi?

Zua'si ectumavimz sohjv ecuav vjev, epf ov't tunivjoph O tvomm tvsahhmi xovj iwisz voni O dmodl "demm".

O jewi vu gohjv nztimg iwisz fez vu lodl nz ett opvu hies optvief ug tovvoph up vji duadj. Cav ov't tmuxmz hivvoph ietois et nunipvan caomft.

Vjot nohjv ci upi ug vji cohhitv sietupt nutv qiuqmi fup'v ciduni ipvsiqsipiast us temitnip (us katv jemg-ett ov). Cideati vjiz fup'v jewi e cutt gusdoph zua vu fu xjev piift vu ci fupi. Zua fup'v jewi e viedjis tivvoph e fai fevi, vjisi ot pu fiefmopi. Vjisi ot upmz zua epf vji gusdi ug zuas xomm vjev ot dsievif ipvosimz xovjop zuas uxp cufz epf nopf.

Ov emm simoit up zua qatjoph zuastimg.

O jef e ficcoi fuxpis fez zitvisfez @eyoun cav zua'wi howip ni e lodl op vji ett. Djiist nevi
 
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