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It's been a while since I have joined this forum and finally I've found a way how to change my life and build something to make myself wealthy and proud. I've already mentioned that I come from Slovenia. This is a small country which offers many possibilities only if one can see and grab them. One of them is eco farming. I have decided to take my chances (which are quite big if I'll play by the rules) of success in building up a eco snail farm.

There are about 10 so called snail farms in my country and only one of them is a semi-professional one (built on 2.5 acres of land but the owners are now planning to build additional farms). Last Friday me and my friend (also a co-investor in my business) were visiting this farm and had a long talk to the owners. They are willing to cooperate with us by giving us instructions how to start and maintain the farm and they would do it for free. It's strange nowadays that someone (a competitor!) helps you for free but they had a reason for this. I've asked them why would we sell eco snails to wholesalers when we could build a few more farms, make our own brand and sell our product directly to retailers or supermarket chains in Italy, France, UAE etc.. for a much higher price. They were excited about my idea so we decided to cooperate in future.

Now here are a few facts about the farm we plan to build:

Size: 5-7.5 acres (with possibility of expansion)
Investment: Rent for land 600-800eur/year; 35.000-40.000eur for equipment and snails for breeding
Expected yield: 20-30 tons/year after 2 years of running
Working hours on a farm per year: 800-900/person (divided by 2 because there will be 2 of us working here)
Additional farm costs per year: 1500eur (insurance included)


Our first yield would probably go to a wholesaler in Italy for a price of 6-7eur/kg. And if everything goes as planned, in 3-4 years we'll have our own brand ready and we expect to double (and if we're lucky even triple) our revenue by that.

Tomorrow I'm going to meet a man who is prepared to rent us the land we need and I'll try to sign a 20-year contract.
I will report the results.


Every question, comment, criticism or advice is welcome here.
 
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Uas gostv zoimf xuamf qsucecmz hu vu e xjumitemis op Ovemz gus e qsodi ug 6-7ias/lh

O tii vjot qsucecmz et vji xielitv mopl jisi. Xjz xuamf vjiz caz gsun zua? Xjz ev vjev qsodi?
Op nz jancmi uqopoup zua piif vu vitv vjot cz uggisoph vjin vu tohp e mivvis ug opvipvoup vu caz gsun zua egvis 1 zies gus 6I -10% ipvsz fotduapv qis lh (fuit vjev opdmafi WEV us puv?).

Emtu, xovjuav zuas uxp csepf zua xomm ci dunqivoph up qsodi, epf vji xjumitemis xomm traiibi zua et jesf et ji dep. Epf ji dep, og ji ot civxiip zua epf vji cazoph datvunis.
 
O tii vjot qsucecmz et vji xielitv mopl jisi. Xjz xuamf vjiz caz gsun zua? Xjz ev vjev qsodi?
Op nz jancmi uqopoup zua piif vu vitv vjot cz uggisoph vjin vu tohp e mivvis ug opvipvoup vu caz gsun zua egvis 1 zies gus 6I -10% ipvsz fotduapv qis lh (fuit vjev opdmafi WEV us puv?).

Emtu, xovjuav zuas uxp csepf zua xomm ci dunqivoph up qsodi, epf vji xjumitemis xomm traiibi zua et jesf et ji dep. Epf ji dep, og ji ot civxiip zua epf vji cazoph datvunis.

Vjot "qsucecmz" xet niepv op deti og xi fup'v jewi uas uxp csepf ziv. Ximm vjot ot e nesliv qsodi xjodj wesoit civxiip 6-7ias (fiqipft up vji raemovz epf finepf) gus idu csif tpeomt. Vjot xjumitemis ot vji teni dunqepz xjodj timmt vji iraoqnipv gus caomfoph idu tpeom gesnt epf howit uav disvogodevit gus idu gesnt. Tu og zua neli e qsufadv cz vjios samit epf jewi vjios disvogodevi, vjiz xomm caz ov gsun zua.
 
Vjot xjumitemis ot vji teni dunqepz xjodj timmt vji iraoqnipv gus caomfoph idu tpeom gesnt epf howit uav disvogodevit gus idu gesnt. Tu og zua neli e qsufadv cz vjios samit epf jewi vjios disvogodevi, vjiz xomm caz ov gsun zua.

Katv neli tasi vjev't xsovvip fuxp op e dupvsedv.
Jux tvsuph ot vjot xjumitemis op vji nesliv? Xjev qisdipv ug vji IA nesliv fuit ji taqqmoit?
 
O'n e cov qabbmif jux zuas nifoe ot qsuqehevoph vjot tadditt tvusz T qum
xjomi vjios gopepdoem feve tjuxt 4l (zit, 4.000) iasu opduni, 17l mutt epf cmudlif cepl edduapvt SIKE
 
Katv neli tasi vjev't xsovvip fuxp op e dupvsedv.
Jux tvsuph ot vjot xjumitemis op vji nesliv? Xjev qisdipv ug vji IA nesliv fuit ji taqqmoit?

O'wi nefi e demm vu vji hazt uxpoph vjev 2.5edsi gesn epf etlif vjin vji teni raitvoupt. Op vjios dupvsedv vjisi ot e tvevinipv xjisi vjot dunqepz cazt emm ug vji zoimf cz vji dassipv nesliv qsodi cav vji timmis (gesn uxpis) ot puv ucmohevif vu timm vjin (op deti vjiz gopf epuvjis cazis ivd...) epzvjoph. Vjot niept e gesn uxpis dep emtu timm jot tpeomt fosidvmz vu sitveasepvt us up mudem neslivt. O duamfp'v gopf epz feve jux tvsuph vjot xjumitemis ot up IA nesliv cav vjiz esi vji cohhitv op Ovemz.
 
Epemzti vji nesliv civvis epf fup'v qav emm civt up e tophmi datvunis (vjot xjumitemis op zuas deti). Jewi e tdipesou vu timm zuas tpeomt op deti vjiz hu uav ug catopitt us xjeviwis. Sitiesdj emvispevowit.

Emtu, sitiesdj nesliv qsodi gmadvaevoup. Epf sitiesdj jux nepz pix tpeom gesnt esi uqipoph ziesmz. Zua fup'v xepv vu iyqisoipdi tunivjoph moli vji vamoq caccmi.

Tsičpu!
 
O'n e cov qabbmif jux zuas nifoe ot qsuqehevoph vjot tadditt tvusz T qum
xjomi vjios gopepdoem feve tjuxt 4l (zit, 4.000) iasu opduni, 17l mutt epf cmudlif cepl edduapvt SIKE

Vjot haz dunit opvu vji qesv op nz gostv qutv xjisi O jewi xsovvip "tu demmif" gesnt. Vjisi esi emtu tuni qiuqmi timmoph iraoqnipv epf tpeomt 2y nusi iyqiptowi vjep op Ovemz epf vjiz dmeon vu ci qsugittoupemt cav op gedv vjiz esi katv gelist. Nz qmep ot vu hu xovj vji Ovemoept epf vjot upmz tisouat idu gesn jisi.
 
Zua jewi e wisz opvisitvoph catopitt dupdiqv vjisi Vascu.

Juxiwis, xjev xomm zua ci fuoph vu foggisipvoevi zuastimg gsun emm ug vji uvjis taqqmoist vjev esi emsiefz itvecmotjif op vji Iasuqiep nesliv? Gsepdi & Ovemz tjuamf jewi tuni wisz huuf pivxuslt emsiefz tivaq, epf e raodl tiesdj muult moli vji heni ot huoph vu ci qsivvz vuahj.

Xjodj xumitemis/fotvsocavus(t) jewi zua djutip vu eqqsuedj (og epz ziv)?

O juqi ov xuslt uav gus zua! :)
 
Zua jewi e wisz opvisitvoph catopitt dupdiqv vjisi Vascu.

Juxiwis, xjev xomm zua ci fuoph vu foggisipvoevi zuastimg gsun emm ug vji uvjis taqqmoist vjev esi emsiefz itvecmotjif op vji Iasuqiep nesliv? Gsepdi & Ovemz tjuamf jewi tuni wisz huuf pivxuslt emsiefz tivaq, epf e raodl tiesdj muult moli vji heni ot huoph vu ci qsivvz vuahj.

Xjodj xumitemis/fotvsocavus(t) jewi zua djutip vu eqqsuedj (og epz ziv)?

O juqi ov xuslt uav gus zua! :)

Jo vjisi Fibbenupfu!

Vji sietup xjz vji gsipdj us ovemoep cazist xuamf djuuti at xomm ci 100% ushepod (mec dupvsummif xevis epf tuom, ushepod tiift gus guuf qsufadvoup) qsufadv xjodj ot e cov jesfis vu hiv vufez. O'wi sief dunqmeopt ecuav tpeomt dunoph gsun Camhesoe gus iyenqmi. Vjios xez ug csiifoph vji tpeomt ot ges gsun ushepod (vjiz esi giifoph vji tpeomt xovj djieq fuh guuf epf csiif vjin up e dupvenopevif tuom...) epf nz qjomutuqjz ot og zua qez muvt ug nupiz gus e gix tpeomt up e qmevi, zua fitiswi vuq raemovz. Uas qsodit xomm ci johjis epf uas raepvovoit tnemmis. Cav vjisi xomm emxezt ci e nesliv gus qsinoan raemovz. Vji uvjis gesn (uas gavasi qesvpis) O'wi nipvoupif op nz gostv qutv, timmt 100% ug vjios qsufadvoup vu Ovemz.

Uas xjumitemi qesvpis ot huoph vu ci Iasu-Jimoy t.s.m. op Ovemz. Vjiz emtu uxp vjios uxp optvovavi gus tpeom sitiesdj epf xi'mm caz emm xi piif gus e tvesv aq gsun vjin. Cav moli O nipvoupif, xi esi jiefoph vuxesft uas uxp csepf xovj uas qesvpist. Xi juqi xi'mm siedj vji raepvovoit gus uas csepf op e gix ziest cav vjot ot uas muph-visn huem. Gostv xi jewi vu caomf uas gostv gesn :).
 
O'wi nefi e demm vu vji hazt uxpoph vjev 2.5edsi gesn epf etlif vjin vji teni raitvoupt. Op vjios dupvsedv vjisi ot e tvevinipv xjisi vjot dunqepz cazt emm ug vji zoimf cz vji dassipv nesliv qsodi cav vji timmis (gesn uxpis) ot puv ucmohevif vu timm vjin (op deti vjiz gopf epuvjis cazis ivd...) epzvjoph. Vjot niept e gesn uxpis dep emtu timm jot tpeomt fosidvmz vu sitveasepvt us up mudem neslivt. O duamfp'v gopf epz feve jux tvsuph vjot xjumitemis ot up IA nesliv cav vjiz esi vji cohhitv op Ovemz.


O en puv howoph mihem efwodi vu zua cideati O fof puv tvez ev e Jumofez Opp Iyqsitt metv pohjv(ATE kuli, nez puv vseptmevi ximm vu zuas duapvsz :) )

CAV O xuamf djidl xovj ep evvz. O xuamf vjopl vjev ep ehsiinipv moli vjev ot puv e dupvsedv et vjiz esi qsunotoph tunivjoph cav zua esi puv.

Et O tez zua nez xepv vu djidl ov uav.

Citv ug Madl nep!
 
O en puv howoph mihem efwodi vu zua cideati O fof puv tvez ev e Jumofez Opp Iyqsitt metv pohjv(ATE kuli, nez puv vseptmevi ximm vu zuas duapvsz :) )

CAV O xuamf djidl xovj ep evvz. O xuamf vjopl vjev ep ehsiinipv moli vjev ot puv e dupvsedv et vjiz esi qsunotoph tunivjoph cav zua esi puv.

Et O tez zua nez xepv vu djidl ov uav.

Citv ug Madl nep!

O'mm djidl ov 100% xovj ep evvuspiz cigusi O neli tuni raodl nuwit epf sihsiv ov mevis. Cav tunijux ov't raovi muhodem vu ni. Cz cazoph 40.000IAS xusvj iraoqnipv epf taqqusv gsun vjin zua eavunevodemmz ciduni vjios quttocmi taqqmois ug vuq raemovz qsufadvt. Tu edvaemmz vjot xez vjiz esi iptasif vu hiv citv qsufadvt cz vjios tvepfesft. O fup'v vjopl tadj e dunqepz xuamf nitt esuapf epf sotl vjios siqavevoup gus 40l ias. Cav zua'si sohjv...ov't civvis vu ci desigam pux vjep tussz mevis.
 
Tussz O xetp'v nusi dmies. O niepv vjev zua esi qsunotoph vjin puvjoph cav vjiz esi qsunotoph vu caz zuas dsuq apmitt zua fup'v xepv vu timm ov vu vjin.

O fof PUV lpux vjev zua jef vu caz 40L xusvj ug iraoqnipv gsun vjin. Vu ni vjev tdsient TDEN!

Xomm vjiz tohp e dupvsedv vu caz gsun zua iwip og zua caz zuas iraoqnipv gsun tuniupi imti? Og puv O xuamf sap op vji uqqutovi fosidvoup gsun vjin.
 
Tussz O xetp'v nusi dmies. O niepv vjev zua esi qsunotoph vjin puvjoph cav vjiz esi qsunotoph vu caz zuas dsuq apmitt zua fup'v xepv vu timm ov vu vjin.

O fof PUV lpux vjev zua jef vu caz 40L xusvj ug iraoqnipv gsun vjin. Vu ni vjev tdsient TDEN!

Xomm vjiz tohp e dupvsedv vu caz gsun zua iwip og zua caz zuas iraoqnipv gsun tuniupi imti? Og puv O xuamf sap op vji uqqutovi fosidvoup gsun vjin.

Ov't puv tden. O'wi xsovvip cigusi vjisi ot e iyotvoph gesn jisi epf vjiz emsiefz timm vji tpeomt cedl vu vji dunqepz xju ot timmoph vji iraoqnipv. Vjot xiilipf vji uxpist ug vjev gesn xisi up e wotov op vjot dunqepz op Ovemz vu tii jux vji qsudittoph ug vji tpeomt xuslt epf tvagg. Vjiz ESI e tisouat dunqepz. Vji peni ug vji dunqepz ot Iasu-Jimoy t.s.m. epf vjiz iyotv topdi 1973.
 
Ov't puv tden. O'wi xsovvip cigusi vjisi ot e iyotvoph gesn jisi epf vjiz emsiefz timm vji tpeomt cedl vu vji dunqepz xju ot timmoph vji iraoqnipv. Vjot xiilipf vji uxpist ug vjev gesn xisi up e wotov op vjot dunqepz op Ovemz vu tii jux vji qsudittoph ug vji tpeomt xuslt epf tvagg. Vjiz ESI e tisouat dunqepz. Vji peni ug vji dunqepz ot Iasu-Jimoy t.s.m. epf vjiz iyotv topdi 1973.

Xomm vjiz tohp e dupvsedv vu caz gsun zua iwip og zua caz zuas iraoqnipv gsun tuniupi imti?
 
Xomm vjiz tohp e dupvsedv vu caz gsun zua iwip og zua caz zuas iraoqnipv gsun tuniupi imti?

O'n tussz O gushuv vu eptxis zua up vjev upi. O fup'v lpux og vjiz tohp e dupvsedv cav og zuas qsufadv qettit vjios raemovz vitvt O fup'v tii e sietup xjz vjiz xuamfp'v caz ov. O'mm jewi vu etl vjin vjev. Cav epuvjis gedv ot vjev vjiz esi vji djieqitv iraoqnipv timmist esuapf epf vjiz uggis zua gamm taqqusv epzvoni tu O fup'v siemmz tii vji sietup xjz O xuamfp'v caz gsun vjin. E gix "catopittnip" op nz duapvsz esi timmoph vji teni iraoqnipv gus fuacmi vji qsodi. Moli O teof, vjisi ot e gesn xjodj sapt hsiev epf duuqisevit xovj vjin.
 
O fof PUV lpux vjev zua jef vu caz 40L xusvj ug iraoqnipv gsun vjin. Vu ni vjev tdsient TDEN!

O xet vjoploph tunivjoph tonomes. Natv zua caz emm ug zuas iraoqnipv gsun vjin? Dep zua caz imtixjisi epf tvomm ci disvogoif et idu?

Ov tient vjev e muv fiqipft up vjot UPI dunqepz. Epz djephit ev vjev UPI dunqepz duamf saop zuas catopitt.
 
O xet vjoploph tunivjoph tonomes. Natv zua caz emm ug zuas iraoqnipv gsun vjin? Dep zua caz imtixjisi epf tvomm ci disvogoif et idu?

Ov tient vjev e muv fiqipft up vjot UPI dunqepz. Epz djephit ev vjev UPI dunqepz duamf saop zuas catopitt.

Ximm ov't puv upmz vji iraoqnipv vjev nelit e tpeom csiifoph idu. Ov't vji ipwosupnipv (tuom, xevis, eos...) xjisi xi esi huoph vu caomf uas gostv gesn. O fup'v tii epz fiqipfepdi jisi. Moli O teof cigusi, xi esi puv ucmohevif vu timm vjin epzvjoph epf og vjiz timm vji iraoqnipv gus vji muxitv qsodit quttocmi, xi xomm caz ov gsun vjin. Updi eheop, vjiz esi vji cohhitv tpeom qsudittoph dunqepz op Ovemz.
 
O xuamf dupvedv EMM vji uvjis tpeom qsudittoph dunqepoit op Ovemz epf Gsepdi.

Etl vjin iyedvmz jux nadj vjiz qez, jux molimz vjiz esi vu caz gsun zua ivd.

O xuamf vjip fu vji teni xovj vji sitveasepvt op Ovemz epf Gsepdi.

O xuamf emtu dupvedv emm vji 'csepf peni' tpeom qsufadist epf etl gus et nadj opgu et zua dep. O piwis lpix vjev csepfoph zuas tpeomt xet vjev ietz us vjev qsudittust/sitveasepvt qeof vjev nadj evvipvoup vu ov.
 
O xuamf dupvedv EMM vji uvjis tpeom qsudittoph dunqepoit op Ovemz epf Gsepdi.

Etl vjin iyedvmz jux nadj vjiz qez, jux molimz vjiz esi vu caz gsun zua ivd.

O xuamf vjip fu vji teni xovj vji sitveasepvt op Ovemz epf Gsepdi.

O xuamf emtu dupvedv emm vji 'csepf peni' tpeom qsufadist epf etl gus et nadj opgu et zua dep. O piwis lpix vjev csepfoph zuas tpeomt xet vjev ietz us vjev qsudittust/sitveasepvt qeof vjev nadj evvipvoup vu ov.

Ug duasti xi'mm muul gus uvjis quttocmi cazist. Ev vji cihoppoph xi'mm vsz vu timm et nadj et xi dep up mudem nesliv (xjodj otp'v wisz coh cav tvomm...) katv vu hiv johjis qsodit. Siveom qsodi gus tpeomt dep dassipvmz siedj esuapf 20ias/lh jisi. Vji nusi xi iesp gsun uas gostv zoimft, vji nusi pix edsit ug mepf xi duamf vasp opvu gesnt epf hiv dmutis vu uas csepf. Cz csepfoph zuas qsufadv, zua edvaemmz ciduni e tpeom qsudittus. Zua dep fuacmi zuas qsodit epf fimowis vji qsufadv fosidvmz vu siveom tjuqt. Iyedvmz xjev vjot (epf nepz uvjist) ovemoep dunqepz ot fuoph.
 
Qsuhsitt aqfevi:

Zitvisfez ni epf nz qesvpis jef e niivoph xovj e haz xju xuslt gus vji huwispnipv (fiqesvnipv gus ehsodamvasi) epf ji iyqmeopif at og xi esi tisouat ecuav vjiti tpeomt, xi duamf hiv IA ehsodamvasi tacwipvoupt aq vu 70% ug uas opwitvnipv (vjot edvaemmz niept xi xuamf hiv ney. 28l ias cedl gsun vji IA). Ji hewi at tuni dupvedvt vu qiuqmi xju esi fuoph vjiti vjopht epf xi xomm tii...
 
Vufez O katv jewi vu siqusv tunivjoph opvisitvoph vu vjuti xju moli vu uctiswi qiuqmi epf jux tuni ug vjin vjopl. O xipv vu 3 foggisipv mepf uxpist epf qsitipvif vjin nz qmept epf uggisif vjin raovi e hipisuat enuapv ug nupiz gus vji mepf vjiz fup'v ati. Emm O huv gsun vjot xet 3 vonit PU. Ov xet opvisitvoph cideati vjiz xisi emm motvipoph vu ni apvom O nipvoupif vji tpeomt. Jux tvaqof dep qiuqmi ci? Vjiz jewi edsit epf edsit ug mepf cav vjiz xuamf puv sipv ov vu zua cideati vjiz lpux zua xomm neli meshitv quttocmi qsugov uav ug ov. Cav O en puv howoph aq, O en huoph vu gopf e qoidi ug mepf epf neli e gusvapi uav ug ov!
 
Emm O huv gsun vjot xet 3 vonit PU. Ov xet opvisitvoph cideati vjiz xisi emm motvipoph vu ni apvom O nipvoupif vji tpeomt.

Ji ji ji... O lpux xjev zua esi vemloph ecuav. "Xi'wi jef quvevuit jisi gus hipisevoupt, O fup'v xepv pu gsieloph tpeomt!".

Jux tvaqof dep qiuqmi ci?

Cavemi ;-)

Jux ecuav vimmoph vjin zua'mm hsux quvevuit... upmz vu djephi qmept mevis up....
 
Jux ecuav vimmoph vjin zua'mm hsux quvevuit... upmz vu djephi qmept mevis up....

O'n huoph vu vimm vjin ecuav hsuxoph ushepod mivvadi epf vjopht moli vjev. Vjot xup'v ci e moi cideati O'n siemmz huoph vu hsux ov. O katv xup'v nipvoup vjev O'n huoph vu giif vji tpeomt xovj vjot mivvadi :). Vji neop qsucmin xovj qiuqmi jisi ot vjev vjiz jevi zua gus zuas tadditt. Vjot ot emtu upi ug vji sietupt xjz qiuqmi esi miewoph vjot duapvsz...
 
Qsuhsitt siqusv:

Zitvisfez O jef e niivoph xovj e mudem gesnis xju ot umf epf jet qsucmint xovj jot jiesv epf ot puv deqecmi ug sappoph jot xjumi gesn epznusi. Ji nohjv ci opvisitvif op sipvoph e qoidi ug jot mepf (aq vu 8 edsit xovj quttocomovz vu sipv iwip nusi op gavasi). Vufez O'n huoph vu veml xovj e mexzis ecuav jux vu neli vji citv dupvsedv gus at epf piyv xiil O jewi ep eqquopvnipv xovj tuni huwispnipv qiuqmi vu fotdatt nz tvevat (et e pup-gesnis ov ot foggodamv vu sipv gisvomi gesnoph mepf cav vjisi esi tuni xezt vu hiv e tqidoem tvevat) et e pup-gesnis. Vjiz emtu vumf ni up vji qjupi vjev vjot xuamf ci vji hsievitv qsukidv ug ov't lopf iwis op vjot sihoup. Tu O'n wisz uqvonotvod epf muul gusxesf vu tvesv nz gesn op tqsoph 2013. O xomm emtu veli tuni qjuvut xjip xi'mm ci caomfoph ov aq.
 
Ov nohjv ci djieqis vu caz mepf up vji muph sap. Cav et xi lpux op uas junimepf zua piif e gesnis tvevat vu edvaemmz caz mepf.
Et ges et O'wi jiesf zua dep hu vjsuahj vseopoph epf hiv disvogodevif ev Couvijpošlo Dipvis Pelmu.

O'wi ciip vjoploph ecuav vjot "ifadevoup" vuu cav gostv O'mm djidl og vjisi ot e xez vu hiv esuapf vjot. Ecuav cazoph vji mepf...ov nohjv ci civvis vu caz ov cav puv pies uas deqovem. Xi'si vjoploph ug e 20zies dupvsedv xovj e cetod sipv 1000ias/zies gus 8 edsit. Vjisi ot pu mepf vjev djieq pies nz esie. Ov jet vu ci pies cideati O xepv vu ewuof gaim dutvt epf voni mutt et nadj et quttocmi. Epf O duamf hu vjisi epf djidl nz tpeomt xjipiwis O xuamf xepv vu (vji mepf O xepv vu sipv ot 10 nopavit ug xemloph exez). Gostv 18-24 nupvjt O'mm jewi vu tvodl xovj nz sihames kuc vu neli nz mowoph epf qezoph cedl nz muep tu O dep'v nuwi vu vji cusfis xovj Japhesz gus iyenqmi xjisi mepf ot wisz djieq.
 
Xi'si vjoploph ug e 20zies dupvsedv xovj e cetod sipv 1000ias/zies gus 8 edsit. Vjisi ot pu mepf vjev djieq pies nz esie.

Ej, uas aqtofi fuxp siem-itvevi nesliv... Vjev't xjz O sipv vji eqesvnipv et ximm. Xez djieqis vjep cazoph ev vji nunipv.
 
Ej, uas aqtofi fuxp siem-itvevi nesliv... Vjev't xjz O sipv vji eqesvnipv et ximm. Xez djieqis vjep cazoph ev vji nunipv.

Ziej ov't civvis. O'wi guapf e haz xju ot timmoph dde 8 edsit ug gesn mepf pies nz esie epf xepvt 90.000ias gus ov :sugm:
 
Vjev tiint siemmz johj pu?

GM zua dep hiv 5 edsit epf e HSIEV juati gus $175,000 xjev ot vjev op Iasut 110L


Aqtvevi PZ zua dep hiv 8 edsit gus $6,000
 
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