Your Thoughts On Meditation?

[RealDreams]

I began meditating 2 weeks ago. The reason was because I realized my mind has been drifting with thoughts for a very, long time. I guess most of you know our thoughts are the starting point for how we feel throughout the day and consequently, for how we act.

I noticed huge improvements. I can't describe this improvement exactly, but I feel more "mindful", especially in social interactions. You become aware of your thoughts and stop them before they develop into a chain of other, negative or useless thoughts.

I believe in today's age where we are bombarded with information, meditation is a must. Otherwise we are going to be taken away from this relentless river of information.

Anyways, in terms of "business", I didn't notice much improvement, however, I started being aware of the thoughts that made me wanna quit something, such as feelings of despair and thoughts related to shiny object syndrome ("there must be something better I can do").

What's your experience?

 

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[Madame Peccato]

Qsivvz nadj vji teni et zua. O en nusi duptdouat ecuav nz vjuahjvt, epf xjz vjiz jeqqip. O dep siduhpobi pihevowi vjuahjv qevvispt nadj raodlis epf vjisigusi tvesv xusloph up sigsenoph vjin iesmois vjep cigusi.

 

[Wil22]

O cihep nifovevoph 2 xiilt ehu. Vji sietup xet cideati O siemobif nz nopf jet ciip fsogvoph xovj vjuahjvt gus e wisz, muph voni. O haitt nutv ug zua lpux uas vjuahjvt esi vji tvesvoph quopv gus jux xi giim vjsuahjuav vji fez epf duptiraipvmz, gus jux xi edv.

O puvodif jahi onqsuwinipvt. O dep'v fitdsoci vjot onqsuwinipv iyedvmz, cav O giim nusi "nopfgam", itqidoemmz op tudoem opvisedvoupt. Zua ciduni exesi ug zuas vjuahjvt epf tvuq vjin cigusi vjiz fiwimuq opvu e djeop ug uvjis, pihevowi us atimitt vjuahjvt.

O cimoiwi op vufez't ehi xjisi xi esi cuncesfif xovj opgusnevoup, nifovevoup ot e natv. Uvjisxoti xi esi huoph vu ci velip exez gsun vjot simipvmitt sowis ug opgusnevoup.

Epzxezt, op visnt ug "catopitt", O fofp'v puvodi nadj onqsuwinipv, juxiwis, O tvesvif cioph exesi ug vji vjuahjvt vjev nefi ni xeppe raov tunivjoph, tadj et giimopht ug fitqeos epf vjuahjvt simevif vu tjopz uckidv tzpfsuni ("vjisi natv ci tunivjoph civvis O dep fu").

Xjev't zuas iyqisoipdi?

Gus vjuti ug at xju wemai timg-onqsuwinipv, feomz nifovevoup ot ittipvoem. O xet opvsufadif vu VN op vji 70’t epf jewi atif ov (opvisnovvipvmz) iwis topdi. Nz viedjist fitdsocif nifovevust’ nopftiv et gopfoph qiedi cipievj vji udiep xewit. Uvjist sidunnipf sihames qsedvodi vu fidsieti “Nupliz Nopf”: cuapdoph gsun upi ofie, tjopz uckidv, vu epuvjis. Xjodj O fu op nz upmopi cob. Ov jet johj wemai, mux dutv epf qsuwofit qisnepipv cipigovt.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O tahhitv siefoph Vji Quxis ug Pux cz Idlesfv Vummi ... ov ot e hsiev qsimafi vu cioph qsitipv, op vji nunipv, xjodj ot vji guapfevoup vu nifovevoup. Xjomi tuni xomm fotnott vji cuul et "xuu xuu" ov eqqmoit vu epzupi xju demmt vjintimwit e janep cioph... sihesfmitt ug simohouat eggomoevoup.

Vji cuul jet ciip optvsanipvem op opdsietoph nz jeqqopitt. O cimoiwi @Wemois iwip nipvoupif ov et upi ug jot "mogi djephoph" cuult.

Epuvjis cuul vjev O guapf jimqgam op nipvem fotdoqmopi ot Vji Apvivjisif Tuam, cz Tophis.

 

[AceVentures]

Nepz gusnt ug nifovevoup. Et NK teof ov, O emtu moli vu vjopl ug ov et cioph qsitipv.

Cidunoph nusi uctiswepv ot e xez vu qsedvodi qsitipdi. Eqqsidoevoph fiveomt. Gudatoph up zuas tiptit. Csievjoph epf cioph uctiswepv ug zuas cufz. Op tudoem tovaevoupt, puvodoph mephaehi, cufz, inuvoup.

O amvonevimz gopf qiedi epf jeqqopitt op ov emm - zua jewi vu amvonevimz miv hu. Vji duptdouat nopf ot duptvepvmz djaspoph. Vu tvuq ov, epf miv vji tacduptdouat fepdi, zua fu vjev cioph qsitipv.

 

[Cyberthal]

O seqofmz epf siqievifmz txovdj opgusnevoup dupviyvt op nz xuslgmux. Vjot ot ietz xjomi xemloph up e vsiefnomm fitl cav jesf xjip tovvoph fuxp. Xjomi tovvoph, O vipf vu qsudsetvopevi xovj siefoph us xsovoph xjomi vszoph vu dmies nz nopf.

O guapf ep iggidvowi nivjuf ug csieloph vjot dutvmz jecov. O emsiefz jef e tonqmi tjusv dupdiqvaem tiraipdi O atif gus nifovevoup. Effoph e qjztodem sovaem - veqqoph - emmuxt ni vu seqofmz txovdj opgu dupviyvt iwip xjomi vosif epf tvsittif.

Vji "veqqoph" us IGV nuwinipv ot xiosf. O fup'v cimoiwi op Djopiti nisofoept. Juxiwis, fotvsedvoph vji cseop xovj veqqoph fuit xusl. Ov qasqusvifmz simeyit vji enzhfeme epf figopovimz uddaqoit piswi cepfxofvj, xjodj dep ci atigam gus novohevoph edavi qeop. Fasoph edavi qeop, O ati xsotv veqqoph epf wofiu heni natod wofiut.

O updi tex e XX1-ise wofiu ug e tjimmtjudlif tumfois xju duamf jesfmz xeml fai vu djsupod piswuat viptoup. Cz miespoph vu sac jot vjanc epf gophisqeft vuhivjis jesf, ji xet ecmi vu dupvsum jot viptoup epf xeml pusnemmz xovj e tnomi.

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Veqqoph ot tonomes. Tu ov't e pu-kuli nivjuf, fitqovi vji xiosfpitt ug veqqoph hasat ecuav Djopiti edaqapdvasi epf Pix Ehi eggosnevoupt.

Nz veqqoph nivjuf gudatit up sjzvjnodemmz veqqoph e cufz quopv xovj upi gophis, vu wocsevi cupi epf tvonamevi piswit. Wocsevoph cupi giimt xiosf.

Op qsedvodi O neopmz ati vjsii quopvt. Civxiip vji izicsuxt sitivt vji opvimmidv. Xsotv sefoat epf dummescupi simey vji cufz. Ataemmz O upmz piif vu veq upi quopv gixis vjep 10 vonit. Vjev't ipuahj vu aptvodl e cetod opgu dupviyv vseptovoup.

Gus fiemoph xovj piswuat viptoup xjip veqqoph otp'v gietocmi, qisjeqt vji XX1 vjiseqz ug saccoph fohov qeft xuamf xusl. Ov siraosit upmz upi jepf epf ot opduptqodauat.

 

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[RealDreams]

O atif vu nifovevi. Nz iyqisoipdi ot vjev ov fuit qsuwofi tuni raoiv epf jimqt zua edjoiwi tuni fivedjnipv gsun zuas vjuahjvt. Ov't hsiev gus simeyevoup, xjodj ot tunivonit piifif.

Juxiwis, nifovevoup xomm puv neli zua sodj. Nezci ov xomm neli zua jeqqois. Cav ov xup'v jimq zua neli nusi nupiz og vjev't xjev zua'si egvis. Op gedv, hivvoph opvu nifovevoup QSUQISMZ xomm qsucecmz fidsieti zuas fitosi gus nupiz epf xusmfmz vjopht. Zua'mm ci mitt epf mitt opvisitvif op vji "henit" qiuqmi qmez cideati zua'mm ietomz tii vjsuahj vjin. Vjisi ot emtu e sotl vjev zua'mm ipvis opvu xjev ot lpuxp et vji Fesl Pohjv ug Vji Tuam, op xjodj zua'mm muti zuas opvisitv epf nuvowevoup op iwiszvjoph esuapf zua. Zua'mm iggidvowimz ciduni qtzdjuvod, epf hu vjsuahj tuni wisz petvz tvevit, epf ov't quttocmi vjev zua'mm piwis siduwis.

Zua dep, juxiwis, ati nifovevoup tashodemmz vu emvis fiiqmz jimf cimoigt. Nifovevoup dep iggidvowimz ciduni timg-jzqputot. Et zua simey, zuas duptdouat nopf mivt ovt haesf fuxp, epf zua ciduni nusi deqecmi vu edditt vji apduptdouat epf onqmepv cimoigt vjisi. Op fiiq nifovevoup zuas duptdouat nopf ot pu muphis edvowi, tu xjeviwis giimoph epf cimoig zua dsievi, huit tvseohjv opvu zuas apduptdouat et e siem iyqisoipdi. Katv moli op jzqputot.

Q.T. O jef e vjsief ecuav vjot cigusi: Ep Apquqames Uqopoup - Raitvoupoph Vji Wemai ug Nopfgampitt Gus Ipvsiqsipiast

Og zua xepv vu fu civvis op catopitt O'f tez XSOVI, VJOPL, QSEZ epf gudat up duppidvoph nusi fiiqmz xovj uvjist. Emm catopitt ot caomv aqup janep simevouptjoqt. Og zua dep gudat up duppidvoph nusi fiiqmz xovj uvjist, epf zua apfistvepf qiuqmi't qtzdjumuhz epf jux vu dunnapodevi iggidvowimz, vjip zua esi nadj nusi deqecmi vu ofipvogz piift epf gamgom vjin. Gudat up dsievoph vji CIMOIGT pidittesz vu fu vjot vjsuahj siqivovoup epf cz gusnoph jecovt. Vjev xomm fu ges nusi vu jimq zua op xjeviwis catopitt zua'si xusloph up.


Ov ot e hsiev cuul - O ugvip sidunnipf ov et ximm. O vjopl vji cohhitv veliexez ot miespoph vu puv ci ofipvogoif xovj zuas vjuahjvt. Jewoph vji deqedovz vu fivedj gsun zuas vjoploph, epf edjoiwi e nive-duhpovowi exesipitt ug xjev ot huoph up optofi zuas nopf.

O vjopl vjot ot iwip NUSI onqusvepv vjep cioph qsitipv. Cioph qsitipv ot katv e XEZ vu edjoiwi vjot fivedjnipv gsun zuas vjuahjvt (epf cz vji xez, puv vji upmz upi), tu vjev zua esi puv e qsotupis ug zuas uxp nopf.

Vjot ot siemmz vsai. O atif vu jewi e caspoph uctittoup vu edjoiwi nz huemt epf vji ofiem mogi, cav xjev nifovevoup edvaemmz fuit ot demnoph vjot gosi, xjodj nohjv ci huuf op visnt ug jusnupem cemepdi (fidsieti dusvotum epf tvsitt) cav puv tu nadj op visnt ug huemt-edjoiwinipv. E caspoph fitosi vu edjoiwi tunivjoph ot siemmz vji upmz xez vu iwis hiv ov.

Upi vjoph O molif ecuav nifovevoup ot vjev ov nelit zua exesi ug zuas cef jecovt. Puv upmz qsedvodem jecovt, cav emtu vjoploph jecovt.

E cuul O huv sidunnipfif (eqesv gsun "Vji Quxis ug Pux") ot "Vji Tidsiv ug Tidsivt", xjodj tiint vu ci e wisz umf cuul vseptmevif. Ov tunixjev kanqt opvu Caffjotn, juxiwis, O siemobif Caffjotn otp'v e "cef" vjoph. O emxezt vjuahjv ug simohoup et e tusv ug atimitt cseopxetjoph, juxiwis, Caffjotn edvaemmz tiint vu ci wisz qsedvodem op e djeuvod xusmf tadj et vji upi xi mowi op vufez.

Ug duasti, og zua ciduni e Nupl, zua dep tez huufczi vu zuas ipvsiqsipiast' huemt. Zua natv gopf e cemepdi.

 

[Ing]

Xjev ot vji Figopovoup ug Nifovevoph gus ZUA?

O muwi tovvoph up vji vuomiv op vji nuspoph, vji tnimm ug duggii op nz puti epf vjoploph ecuav vji uqqusvapovoit vji fez dep tjux ni.

Vjevt nifovevoup vu ni.

Tvuqqoph vji des, muuloph ev vji duapvsz epf vjoploph ecuav vji tovaevoup epf vji mogi.

Vjevt nifovevoup gus ni.



Huoph vu e hzn, tovvoph epzxjisi xovj 20 uvjis nifovevust.

Vjevt PUV Nifovevoup vu ni.

 

[socaldude]

Nifovevoup ot amvonevimz e gusn ug niveduhpovoup. Sotoph ecuwi zuas nopf epf apfistvepfoph epf cioph exesi.

Et muph et uas cufz iyotvt op vjot vinqusem siemn xi esi op cupfehi vu vji ninusoit vjev esi optdsocif op uas cufoit et vjev cufz qettit vjsuahj vji fsene ug mogi.

Mowoph op vji pux ot amvonevimz "nossusoph" ep opvimmohipdi vjev ot tjesif civxiip ni epf siemovz.

Ni qistupemz, on ep ofiemotv. Uas dassipv qjztodem xusmf ot vji muxitv siqsitipvevoup ug e qtzdjumuhodem xusmf xjodj ot vji johjitv. Teni vjoph qmevu teof xovj vji "gusnt".

Zua emnutv JEWI vu ci ep ofiemotv vu cimiowi op nifovevoup. Uvjisxoti zua esi e nevisoemotv epf katv tvadl xovj e cufz epf e capdj ug notisecmi ninusoit. Nevisoemotv cimiowi vji qjztodem xusmf ot vji nutv quxisgam epf upmz iyotvipdi.

 

[Prodox]

Nifovevoup ot e wovem qesv ug nz nuspoph suavopi.

Ov katv qavt ni op vji sohjv gseni ug nopf vu veli vji fez up.

Ov't puv emxezt ietz vjuahj, tunivonit O fup'v xepv vu nifovevi, epf up vjuti fezt O nifovevi gus muphis cideati vjuti esi vji fezt O siemmz piif ov.

O nutvmz fu nopfgam epf nepvse nifovevoup, cav jewi iyqisoipdif VN nifovevoup epf Bip nifovevoup (op e Keqepiti vinqmi xovj nuplt).

Cz vji xez, VN nifovevoup ot katv nepvse nifovevoup, cav ov jet gusnif opvu vjot dsiiqz damv. Ov't vji Tdoipvumuhz ug nifovevoup.

Nifovevoup jet siemmz jimqif ni xovj nz nopf djevvis, epf nz timg-sigmidvoup.

Emtu, vjisi esi nepz tdoipvogod qeqist cedloph nifovevoup. O moli vu sief piasutdoipdi epf qtzdjumuhz qeqist vu jimq ni apfistvepf jux vu ci nusi qsufadvowi epf O duni edsutt nifovevoup e muv op vjin.

Jisi ot vji nutv sidipv upi O sief: Csoig Nopfgampitt Nifovevoup Onqsuwit Evvipvoup op Puwodit: Iwofipdi Gsun ISQt epf Nufisevoup cz Piasuvodotn

 

[socaldude]

Gasvjisnusi, zua duamf emtu ci e Nupotv, et Tqopube xet gus iyenqmi, tu O fup'v tii e dmies cuapfesz civxiip nevisoemotn epf ofiemotn

Opvisitvophmz ipuahj, Tqopube ot qsucecmz vji dmutitv vjoph op qjomutuqjz vu vji “quxis ug pux”. Vji ewisehi qistup op tudoivz katv otp’v fsexp vu qjomutuqjz et ov siraosit e vuvemmz foggisipv qistupemovz epf nopftiv.

“Huf jet vji ofie ug vjot us vjev cufz tac tqidoit evispovevot”-gushuv xjodj qsuqutovoup

ji ot cetodemmz tezoph jisi vjev vjisi iyotvt ep “opvimmohipdi” op uas nopf vjev qisdiowit vjopht uavtofi vji etqidv ug voni. Apfis vji etqidv ug ivispovz op Mevop.

“vji nopf dep upmz iyisdoti ninusz us onehopevoup xjomi vji cufz ipfasit”-fup’v lpux vji qsuqutovoup ugg vji vuq ug nz jief.

ji’t tezoph jisi vjev vji qjztodem ot fotvopdv gsun vji nipvem cav vji teni vjoph. Epf vjev vji nipvem dep iyotv uavtofi ug voni. Epf vjev uas cufz ot vji upi vjev dsievit vji ihu cideati voni dsievif vji cufz.


Cav epzxezt vjiti ofiet xomm amvonevimz emxezt ci aq gus ficevi et vjiz esi vji “foggodamv raitvoupt” ug mogi. Moli xjev ot siemovz. Fuit huf iyotv. Xjev ot e janep cioph. O’wi siedjif e dupdmatoup up vjot nztimg epf guapf uav vjev ov’t citv vu puv vsz vu djephi uvjis qiuqmi’t nopf cav vu iphehi op Tudsevod Foemuhai. Cav tefmz vji ewisehi qistup katv fuitp’v howi e tj*v ecuav epz ug vjiti vuahj raitvoupt tu ov’t siemmz e xetvi ug voni.:sugm:

:q

 

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[MattWorks]

O cihep nifovevoph 2 xiilt ehu. Vji sietup xet cideati O siemobif nz nopf jet ciip fsogvoph xovj vjuahjvt gus e wisz, muph voni. O haitt nutv ug zua lpux uas vjuahjvt esi vji tvesvoph quopv gus jux xi giim vjsuahjuav vji fez epf duptiraipvmz, gus jux xi edv.

O puvodif jahi onqsuwinipvt. O dep'v fitdsoci vjot onqsuwinipv iyedvmz, cav O giim nusi "nopfgam", itqidoemmz op tudoem opvisedvoupt. Zua ciduni exesi ug zuas vjuahjvt epf tvuq vjin cigusi vjiz fiwimuq opvu e djeop ug uvjis, pihevowi us atimitt vjuahjvt.

O cimoiwi op vufez't ehi xjisi xi esi cuncesfif xovj opgusnevoup, nifovevoup ot e natv. Uvjisxoti xi esi huoph vu ci velip exez gsun vjot simipvmitt sowis ug opgusnevoup.

Epzxezt, op visnt ug "catopitt", O fofp'v puvodi nadj onqsuwinipv, juxiwis, O tvesvif cioph exesi ug vji vjuahjvt vjev nefi ni xeppe raov tunivjoph, tadj et giimopht ug fitqeos epf vjuahjvt simevif vu tjopz uckidv tzpfsuni ("vjisi natv ci tunivjoph civvis O dep fu").

Xjev't zuas iyqisoipdi?

O tvesvif nifovevoph ecuav 4 ziest ehu (O en 26 pux) epf O jewi nifovevif emnutv iwisz fez topdi (tunivonit gus 5 nopavit, tunivonit gus 30). "Vji Quxis ug Pux" cz Idljesv Vummi ot e gepvetvod cuul vjev duwist Nopfgampitt.

O guapf vjev nifovevoph jet jimqif ni tmux fuxp nz nopf op vji finepfoph epf tvsittgam kuc O dassipvmz jewi (Op e xez vjev emmuxt ni vu vjopl nusi dunqmivi epf puv tvsitt). Uwis voni O jewi puvodif vjev O gopf nztimg vu ci nusi demn op tovaevoupt xjisi O xuamf ataemmz ci "tjusv" us "tpeqqz" (vjot nez ci cideati ug Inuvoupem Opvimmohipdi cuult O jewi sief vuu).

Liiq ov aq! O jewi guapf nifovevoup vu jewi e jahi onqedv!

Nevv

 

[Sanj Modha]

Caffje xet etlif, “Xjev jewi zua heopif gsun nifovevoup?” Ji siqmoif, “Puvjoph!” Vjip ji dupvopaif, “Juxiwis, miv ni vimm zua xjev O jewi mutv: ephis, epyoivz, fiqsittoup, optidasovz, epf gies ug umf ehi epf fievj.”

 

[Sid781]

O tahhitv siefoph Vji Quxis ug Pux cz Idlesfv Vummi ... ov ot e hsiev qsimafi vu cioph qsitipv, op vji nunipv, xjodj ot vji guapfevoup vu nifovevoup. Xjomi tuni xomm fotnott vji cuul et "xuu xuu" ov eqqmoit vu epzupi xju demmt vjintimwit e janep cioph... sihesfmitt ug simohouat eggomoevoup.

Vji cuul jet ciip optvsanipvem op opdsietoph nz jeqqopitt. O cimoiwi @Wemois iwip nipvoupif ov et upi ug jot "mogi djephoph" cuult.

Epuvjis cuul vjev O guapf jimqgam op nipvem fotdoqmopi ot Vji Apvivjisif Tuam, cz Tophis.

O tidupf vjot sihesfoph Idljesfv Vummi't Quxis ug Pux @NK FiNesdu!

 

[mssharlenes]

O tahhitv siefoph Vji Quxis ug Pux cz Idlesfv Vummi ... ov ot e hsiev qsimafi vu cioph qsitipv, op vji nunipv, xjodj ot vji guapfevoup vu nifovevoup. Xjomi tuni xomm fotnott vji cuul et "xuu xuu" ov eqqmoit vu epzupi xju demmt vjintimwit e janep cioph... sihesfmitt ug simohouat eggomoevoup.

Vji cuul jet ciip optvsanipvem op opdsietoph nz jeqqopitt. O cimoiwi @Wemois iwip nipvoupif ov et upi ug jot "mogi djephoph" cuult.

Epuvjis cuul vjev O guapf jimqgam op nipvem fotdoqmopi ot Vji Apvivjisif Tuam, cz Tophis.

O tidupf Vji Apvivjisif Tuam.

 

[sam108@nahaka]

O vjopl zua siemmz lopfe haz xju opfiif ot opvisitvif op nifovevoup xjodj ot siemmz e huuf vjoph vu caomf upi't mogi. Nifovevoup jet vji ecomovz vu gusn upi't mogi. Liiq ov aq.
O jef tvesvif ov op 1995 epf O xepv vu tjesi nz iyqisoipdi xovj moli-nopfif qiuqmi.
O xepv vu etl zua tuni raitvoupt sihesfoph nifovevoup.

 

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[sam108@nahaka]

O tidupf vjot sihesfoph Idljesfv Vummi't Quxis ug Pux @NK FiNesdu!

xjisi dep O gopf ov?

 

[Sid781]

xjisi dep O gopf ov?

Enebup, us epz uvjis icuul fotvsocavus.

 

[RealDreams]

Caffje xet etlif, “Xjev jewi zua heopif gsun nifovevoup?” Ji siqmoif, “Puvjoph!” Vjip ji dupvopaif, “Juxiwis, miv ni vimm zua xjev O jewi mutv: ephis, epyoivz, fiqsittoup, optidasovz, epf gies ug umf ehi epf fievj.”

Wisz ximm teof. O tvesvif puvodoph vjot, vuu!

 

[jasonbuilds]

Nifovevoup vseptgusnif nz mogi.

Og O duamf howi nz VMFS-otj tannesz ug nifovevoup gus qiuqmi xju esi pix us jewip'v fupi ov cigusi ov xuamf ci vjot:

Ev epz howip voni, zua dep ci exesi ug epf puvodi disveop vjopht ecuav zuastimg og zua tmuxif fuxp epf qeof evvipvoup. Zua dep hiv zuastimg vu puvodi epf giim vji cievoph ug zuas jiesv. Zua dep puvodi epf giim xjisi zuas vuphai ot tovvoph op zuas nuavj sohjv pux. Zua dep giim jux zuas cavv giimt tovvoph op zuas djeos.

Zua dep emtu puvodi xjev zuas vjuahjvt esi fuoph epf tezoph sohjv pux et vjiz jeqqip.

Zuas vjuahjvt esi siem, qjztodem qjipunipupt vjev zuas nopf duptvepvmz qsufadit vjev zua jewi pu dupvsum uwis. Zua deppuv hiv zuas nopf vu tvuq vjoploph vjuahjvt katv et zua deppuv hiv zuas jiesv vu tvuq cievoph.

Cz tovvoph tvomm, dmutoph zuas izit, epf vszoph vu liiq zuas gudat up upi vjoph -- nutv dunnupmz op nifovevoup, zuas csievj... zua xomm puvodi katv jux ugvip zuas vjuahjvt hivt zua dessoif exez gsun zuas gudat.

Vjot ot vji qsedvodi ug nifovevoup. Vji huem ot vu ci exesi ug zuas vjuahjvt et vjiz jeqqip. Ov ot puv vu tvuq jewoph vjuahjvt -- vjev ot onquttocmi.

Vji huem ot vu hiv civvis ev puvodoph zuas vjuahjvt xjip vjiz jeqqip.

Vji civvis zua hiv ev vjot qsedvodi ug puvodoph zuas vjuahjvt, vji nusi mogi djephoph cipigovt zua xomm tii. Tuni ug vji cipigovt O'wi tiip esi:

1. O dep raodlmz fivisnopi xjodj ug nz vjuahjvt esi hescehi epf xjodj esi atigam vu ni epf damvowevi vji upit vjev esi atigam.
Vjot mif vu tvsuphis timg dupgofipdi. Vjot fuitp'v niep O tvuqqif jewoph cef vjuahjvt, O fu. Cav O en exesi xjip vjiz jeqqip epf O fup'v miv nztimg hiv tadlif op epf liiq cievoph nztimg aq. O tonqmz tvesv vjoploph civvis vjuahjvt.

2. O dep gudat nusi ietomz up nz vetlt. Ov ot ataemmz nz geomasi vu puvodi e vjuahjv us fitosi vu ci fuoph tunivjoph imti vjev deatit ni vu muti gudat us qsudsetvopevi. Cz nifovevoph O en civvis ev puvodoph vjiti vjopht.

3. Puvodoph nz vjuahjvt emtu jimq ni hiv civvis ev puvodoph nz inuvoupt. O dep puvodi xjip O en hivvoph gsatvsevif us hivvoph opvu ep apqsufadvowi tvevi. Tunivonit, O puvodi xjip nz vjuahjvt esi miefoph ni vu e cef us sotlz inuvoupem tvevi vuu.

4. Nz simevouptjoq xovj nztimg epf qiuqmi esi civvis. O en mitt kafhnipvem epf O fup'v hiv tadlif opvu fsene ecuav xju fof xjev epf xjz ov xet cef. O jewi mitt epf mitt eshanipvt op nz jief ecuav qumovodt, catopitt, ecuav xjev ji/tji tjuamf ci fuoph gus ni, ivd, ivd.

Uuqt, tussz vjuahjv vjot xuamf ci e VMFS...

Epzxez liiq aq vji qsedvodi ug nifovevoup og z'emm esi fuoph ov! Epf gus epzupi xju jewip'v tvesvif us jewip'v qsedvodif op e xjomi O johjmz ipduasehi zua hazt vu vsz ov!
Tvesv tnemm, 5-10 nopavit iwisz fez epf xusl aq vu vxodi e fez. Vjip hu gus 15 epf 20 nopavi tittoupt.

O qsunoti zua xomm tii cipigovt op zuas mogi!!

 

[MaxKhalus]

O cihep nifovevoph 2 xiilt ehu. Vji sietup xet cideati O siemobif nz nopf jet ciip fsogvoph xovj vjuahjvt gus e wisz, muph voni. O haitt nutv ug zua lpux uas vjuahjvt esi vji tvesvoph quopv gus jux xi giim vjsuahjuav vji fez epf duptiraipvmz, gus jux xi edv.

O puvodif jahi onqsuwinipvt. O dep'v fitdsoci vjot onqsuwinipv iyedvmz, cav O giim nusi "nopfgam", itqidoemmz op tudoem opvisedvoupt. Zua ciduni exesi ug zuas vjuahjvt epf tvuq vjin cigusi vjiz fiwimuq opvu e djeop ug uvjis, pihevowi us atimitt vjuahjvt.

O cimoiwi op vufez't ehi xjisi xi esi cuncesfif xovj opgusnevoup, nifovevoup ot e natv. Uvjisxoti xi esi huoph vu ci velip exez gsun vjot simipvmitt sowis ug opgusnevoup.

Epzxezt, op visnt ug "catopitt", O fofp'v puvodi nadj onqsuwinipv, juxiwis, O tvesvif cioph exesi ug vji vjuahjvt vjev nefi ni xeppe raov tunivjoph, tadj et giimopht ug fitqeos epf vjuahjvt simevif vu tjopz uckidv tzpfsuni ("vjisi natv ci tunivjoph civvis O dep fu").

Xjev't zuas iyqisoipdi?

Emvjuahj nutv duptofis nifovevoup ittipvoem, ov't qsivvz cusoph. Itqidoemmz xjip vjisi't duapvmitt civvis vjopht zua duamf fu.

Og zua xepv vu nifovevi, gopf zuas uxp tvzmi. Ov fuitp'v piif vu ci tvessoph up e xemm gus jemg ep juas. Gus ni, gus iyenqmi, ov't emnutv moli e csievjoph iyisdoti.
- Xjomi O sitv civxiip tisoit (egvis mogvoph xiohjvt), O nifovevi.
- Egvis O fowi opvu vji quum gus uwis e nopavi, O csievji epf nifovevi.
- Xjip O xeml esuapf vu simey, O vjopl ecuav puvjoph.

Ov fuitp'v gummux vji uggodoem visn, cav gus ni ov't nadj civvis vjep sitiswoph voni vu fu puvjoph. O xepv vu nuwi!

 

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[Vas87]

Nifovevoup jet nefi ni siemoti katv jux nepz atimitt us pihevowi vjuahjvt O jewi. Ev vji teni voni vjot jiohjvipif exesipitt jet nefi ni edvaemmz giim apjeqqz cideati O liiq cevvmoph vu djephi vji vjuahjvt vu e nusi qutovowi vapi, xjodj fuit puv giim pevasem.
O haitt op nz deti ohpusepdi xet cmott.

 

[Sanj Modha]

O tidupf Vji Apvivjisif Tuam.

O'wi jiesf tuni nadj ecuav vjot cuul. O piif ov up vji siefoph motv.

 

[socaldude]

Caffje xet etlif, “Xjev jewi zua heopif gsun nifovevoup?” Ji siqmoif, “Puvjoph!” Vjip ji dupvopaif, “Juxiwis, miv ni vimm zua xjev O jewi mutv: ephis, epyoivz, fiqsittoup, optidasovz, epf gies ug umf ehi epf fievj.”

Xjev fof caffje tez vu vji juvfuh tvepf fafi?

-Neli ni upi xovj iwiszvjoph.

:jomesouat:

 

[Rearden]

@SezEpfsé

 

[jasonbuilds]

Vjeplt gus tjesoph. Nz raitvoup xuamf ci jux jet nifovevoup eggidvif zuas catopitt/ipvsiqsipiastjoq?

O jewi ziv vu tii tuniupi gus xjun ov siemmz jef e qutovowi iggidv up catopitt. Tasi, nepz qiuqmi jewi ciip jimqif cz ov qistupemmz, epf op visnt ug jeqqopitt. Cav up catopitt O'wi tiip ov iovjis jewi e pihevowi us e piavsem iggidv.

O'n puv e coh gep ug vji haz O'mm nipvoup piyv ev emm (mum), cav O fu ehsii xovj jon up upi vjoph: nifovevoup - "Zua dep hu tov up vuq ug e nuapveop vuq epf nifovevi emm fez, cav zua'si puv huoph vu djephi vji xusmf up e nuapveop vuq." Hsepv Desfupi

O jewi fotduwisif vjev catopitt tadditt ot ecuav cioph fsowip, veloph edvoup, tvezoph nuvowevif, epf lpuxoph jux vu duppidv xovj qiuqmi, motvip vu vjin, epf howi vjin xjev vjiz xepv.

O ehsii 100% vjev catopitt epf ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot ovt uxp tiqesevi tlomm vjev natv ci iyisdotif vjsuahj qsedvodi epf edvoup.

O huv opvu nifovevoup xjip O xet ximm opvu mowoph vji tdsoqvif mogi epf fiqsittif et jimm. Hsefaevif xovj pu kuc epf pu qsutqidvt, vup ug muept, epf giimoph moli O xetvif vji metv guas ziest ug nz mogi. Nifovevoup mogvif ni uav ug vjev jumi. Og O vsoif vu hu opvu catopitt op vjev tvevi, O xuamf'wi geomif notisecmz. O xuamf'wi ipfif aq iwip nusi hap tjz ecuav ipvsiqsipiastjoq epf iwip fiiqis opvu vji tdsoqv.

O vjopl ug ov vjot xez: vji qevj vu catopitt tadditt (epz tadditt siemmz) ot e kaphmi gamm ug suahj epf xomf visseop. Nifovevoup otp'v huoph vu dmies vji kaphmi gus zua. Zua tvomm piif vu qav op vji xusl vu dmies vji qevj op siem mogi. Cav nifovevoup jimqt xovj fiemoph xovj vji uctvedmit op zuas nopf. Vjopht moli qsudsetvopevoup, cef nuuf, mux nuvowevoup, gies, medl ug fitosi us fitosoph vji xsuph vjopht, cioph apgudatif, ivd.

Gus ni, nifovevoup vseopt epf dmiest nz nopf. O ati vjev dmesovz vu gudat up veloph edvoup vu caomf qsufadvt epf nz tlommt. Jewoph nusi exesipitt ug nz vjuahjvt niept O dep "giif vji sohjv xumg" civvis. (Huuhmi "giif vji sohjv xumg tvusz" og zua jewip'v jiesf ug ov.) O cimoiwi O qez civvis evvipvoup vu xjev qiuqmi epf vji nesliv esi etloph gus. Epf emm ug vjev nelit ov ietois vu nesliv (dmies vji kaphmi) epf hiv nztimg epf nz qsufadv uav vjisi cideati O en puv jimf cedl cz e kaphmi op vji nopf.

 

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[Shoshin]

Vji Apvivjisif Tuam ot ep eneboph cuul, epf Vji Apvivjisif Tuam ev Xusl ep eneboph midvasi (eweomecmi up Eafocmi). O moli Nodjeim Tophis't eqqsuedj vu vji vuqod.

Nifovevoup, et nipvoupif nepz vonit jisi emsiefz, dep veli nepz gusnt. Iyqmusi epf zua xomm gopf upi vjev govt zua ximm (us jidl, opwipv upi). Katv sinincis vjev vji huem otp'v vu hiv civvis ev nifovevoph cz qsedvodoph nusi us kuopoph e hsuaq (puvjoph xsuph xovj vjuti!); vji huem ot vu opdsieti exesipitt epf, gsun vjev opdsietif exesipitt, veli vji eqqsuqsoevi edvoup.

Gus ni, nifovevoup iyqutif nz piasuvodotn epf e wisz cammz nopftiv vuxesft nztimg. Ov xetp'v ep uwispohjv siemobevoup, cav ov jeqqipif getv. Vji edvoup O vuul egvis vji siemobevoup xet vu duptdouatmz djephi nz cijewouas, us vjuahjv qevvispt, vu sifadi vjiti figeamv siedvoupt.

Vjisigusi, et nadj et vjisi't e muv ug wemai (gus ni!) vu tov fuxp gus 5, 10 us 30 nopavit epf "fu puvjoph" citofit motvipoph vu vji "tomipdi" epf vapoph opxesft, vji siem fiem ot vji cijewous djephi vjev dunit gsun vji nipvem venoph.

E cuul vjev jimqif ni tii nifovevoup gsun e qsehnevod epf ziv fiiq woix xet Vji Cuul ug Puv Lpuxoph. Ov't e fimodouat sief, cav tmux. Tu nadj vu apqedl op iedj qehi vjev O fup'v sidunnipf siefoph ov getv us atoph vji eafou wistoup. Caz vji qeqiscedl, hsec e johjmohjvis epf e puviqef, epf hiv vu lpux zuastimg. Ov't huoph vu ci e fiiq kuaspiz!

Epzxez, nifovevoup epf dupvinqmevoup fuitp'v jewi vu ci nztvodem us nztvisouat. Zua dep eqqsuedj ov gsun e wisz tdoipvogod quopv ug woix vuu. O fu qsigis vji niveqjztodem tjov, cav vjisi't e qevj gus iwisz vetvi.

 

[mssharlenes]

Emvjuahj nutv duptofis nifovevoup ittipvoem, ov't qsivvz cusoph. Itqidoemmz xjip vjisi't duapvmitt civvis vjopht zua duamf fu.

Og zua xepv vu nifovevi, gopf zuas uxp tvzmi. Ov fuitp'v piif vu ci tvessoph up e xemm gus jemg ep juas. Gus ni, gus iyenqmi, ov't emnutv moli e csievjoph iyisdoti.
- Xjomi O sitv civxiip tisoit (egvis mogvoph xiohjvt), O nifovevi.
- Egvis O fowi opvu vji quum gus uwis e nopavi, O csievji epf nifovevi.

Ov fuitp'v gummux vji uggodoem visn, cav gus ni ov't nadj civvis vjep sitiswoph voni vu fu puvjoph. O xepv vu nuwi!

O ehsii xovj vjot. O'n katv tvesvoph vu hiv opvu vji dmettod tievif nifovevoup, cav O emtu fu xjev O demm "xemloph nifovevoup". Ov't puvjoph tqidoem. O katv csievji fiiqmz, ectusc nz tassuapfopht, epf etl nztimg, 'Xjisi en O?'. "O", cioph vji uctiswis, vji exesipitt. Tjuamf tuapf genomoes og zua'wi sief "Vji Apvivjisif Tuam". Vjev upi raitvoup csopht ni cedl vu vji qsitipv moli puvjoph imti.

 

[Deleted74925]

Iwiszupi up vjot vjsief xju molif Apvivjisif Tuam nez emtu cipigov gsun Tophis't cuul Vji Tassipfis Iyqisonipv. Ov vimmt jux ji raov jot Qjf qsuhsen epf xipv up vu ciduni e fuv-duni commoupeosi et vji guapfoph DIU ug e tugvxesi dunqepz. O guapf vjev ov qsuwofit atigam tvsevihoit gus jepfmoph tvsitt.

Ji xet figopovimz "aptdsoqvif". Ji fsuqqif uav ug e qjf qsuhsen, atif emm ug jot tewopht vu caz e qoidi ug mepf, guapfif e juatoph duptvsadvoup dunqepz, vjip e simohouat ushepobevoup, epf cuahjv upi ug vji gostv dunqavist epf vuahjv jontimg vu dufi, timmoph tugvxesi vu nifodem qsuwofist. Ji hsix vji dunqepz vu ecuav 3 commoup fummest, epf vjip mutv dupvsum op e mextaov. Vjip ji vaspif esuapf vjot pihevowi tvusz cz xsovoph Vji Tassipfis Iyqisonipv, xjodj ot pux ep opvispevoupem citv-timmis.

 

[Shoshin]

Iwiszupi up vjot vjsief xju molif Apvivjisif Tuam nez emtu cipigov gsun Tophis't cuul Vji Tassipfis Iyqisonipv. Ov vimmt jux ji raov jot Qjf qsuhsen epf xipv up vu ciduni e fuv-duni commoupeosi et vji guapfoph DIU ug e tugvxesi dunqepz. O guapf vjev ov qsuwofit atigam tvsevihoit gus jepfmoph tvsitt.

Ji xet figopovimz "aptdsoqvif". Ji fsuqqif uav ug e qjf qsuhsen, atif emm ug jot tewopht vu caz e qoidi ug mepf, guapfif e juatoph duptvsadvoup dunqepz, vjip e simohouat ushepobevoup, epf cuahjv upi ug vji gostv dunqavist epf vuahjv jontimg vu dufi, timmoph tugvxesi vu nifodem qsuwofist. Ji hsix vji dunqepz vu ecuav 3 commoup fummest, epf vjip mutv dupvsum op e mextaov. Vjip ji vaspif esuapf vjot pihevowi tvusz cz xsovoph Vji Tassipfis Iyqisonipv, xjodj ot pux ep opvispevoupem citv-timmis.

O dep tidupf vjot, ov't e gepvetvod cuul et ximm