Why we aren't successful and what to do about it - The TURBO MINDSET thread

[Everyman]

Hello Brother,

I intended to call you a 'Fastlaner' (instead of Brother) but I am guessing most of us are 'slowlaners' here, which is good.

I dedicate this thread to everyone who will spare 5 mins to read it, but mostly to us, sidewalkers/slowlaners. There is nothing bad in being a sidewalker or slowlaner... As in there is nothing bad in being a human!

I feel energised, REALLY ENERGISED today, first time since 15 years. 15!!

I have been depressed for the last 15 years, I think. I hid it somewhere inside, but it had great influence on me. I lost touch with it... but it didn't with me. Ok to the point...

Why aren't we successful? (with the exactly exact steps how to fix it at the end of the post)

I am not going to write a copy for 'twenty hours' to deceive you into reading it, and not giving you the answer. Here it is:

It's not talent, it's not your face, it's not your parents (ok they are affecting you a lot)... Wait. Unfortunately our parents are responsible for shaping our mindsets the most, next to the mass educational brainwash.... Nevertheless...

The answer is:

mindset

Mindset!

MINDSET!!!!!

Mindset?

MINDSET MF (as in motherfcker - can I swear or is it only reserved for the 'better' people on the forum?)

Ok one more time

MINDSET​

I am reading the book by Carol Dweck on mindset and it has helped me a lot on recently and on my path to happiness... I don't want to write about it because it's 7$ on amazon so go get it if you want to change your life... Ok buying a book will definitely change the life of whoever owns amazon. Won't change yours in an instant. You need to put work in it...

Anyway.

Ok ok my story? It's important. My background.

(I don't buy this copy anymore 'How I went from 0 to 1 Trillion $ in two years from living in a box to a villa on Mars and Moon...")

I have been naive... back to the main story

You can call me...

Bill Clinton

I was one of the most talented kids in my country. I was training track and field in primary school - I loved it, and I had a huge talent, one of the biggest, my coach told me I was wwaaaay better than the guy that was our idol and his biggest achievement was 5th place in the world championships.

But well long story short I stopped, then I played volleyball (with 6ft, not too tall) and also loved it, put a lot of effort there, wasn't as good as at track and field, beacuse of my height, but nevertheless it doesn't define anything...

I stopped because of my back pain (it was 14 years ago and only now I started working on my back in a correct way, after going to several physios etc etc etc)...

My professional career - I was an 'accountant' and was on a way to be a CFO of a public listed company at the age of 29-31. Is it so so? or ok? or bad? or what?

But I stopped. I stopped every time I hit bigger obstacles. The older I got the faster I was to give up.

I signed up for @Fox 's web design course in the early 2017. With cold calling I didn't even properly start and put proper effort. One of the things that made me work on my mindset... compare this to the rest of the achievements I mentioned above. Had I put half the effort that I did into previous 'passions', I would have been.... nevertheless I am on my way to turn it around.

Nonetheless, I couldn't admit that I was a failure. Not to myself, so wouldn't even think about talking to other people.... This was how fragile we can be.......

OK THE STEPS ALREADY FFS (for F*ck sake):

the order here is not important, ok so I will play a mind trick on us:

1. Start writing daily, DAILY, NOT WEEKLY, NOT WHEN YOU WANT TO, daily, things that you are grateful for today - or made you happy. Even one sentence. And can be 'stupid' stuff like e.g. I am grateful for the ice cream in store. It makes me fat but it feels so good. Whatever works for you.

1. James Clear and his free ebook on habits. Download it and read it. Action on it. So read it once. First time just scan it. Then second time read it. Then third time with taking notes and how you will apply this knowledge - btw this is the system you can use to other books (aside of Harry Potter type of books...)

1. Maybe the single most important point here. Find a support group, like AA, support people, or at least one person. This person mustn't judge you. Just listen you saying that your imperfections are ok. From a book No More Mr Nice Guy by Robert Glover - check out the book and there are simple actions you can take, but really powerful. If you don't have a good mindset, you most probably aren't ok with yourself on a deep unconscious level and we need to 'fix' this. It's ok to be miserable, depressed, smelly, ugly, handsome... 'The success and the bitches' will come later, ok, trust me

1. This forum is actually the best place on the internet. I joined in 2011 and have been lurking, frequenting it since then but not really actively... Wait, what? 2011? You are .... I don't know... It doesn't matter how long it takes or who you are. "It doesn't matter who we are. What matters is our plan".

but

this forum is also the worst!

1. The fastlaneforum doesn't provide this type of support we require in our fragile state. Maybe not to all of us. Everyone can come and 'shit' on your thread. It is great, still. But it's only a part of the puzzle. Great one. Big one.


Ok I am tired.... I hope you find some useful information here. It's just a summary. It sometimes takes days/weeks/ or in my case, years (2011 above guys says something).

One of my favourite people, the musician Steve Vai once said, "A true artist never gives up".

I Wish You Never To Give Up.


PS As usual I call every lurker to come out and say something, because it's important to start participating.

PS2 Big thanks to @Longinus because he is the inspiration for this thread and a lot of things that is going on in my life now. I love you Man!

PS3 OK enough with the editing, POST IT ALREADY, people are waiting.... or maybe not... who knows

Continued below....

 

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[Everyman]

Ximm, O jewi tuni gaim op ni vu dupvopai vufez. Cav O vjopl ov't siemmz onqusvepv. NOPFTIV.

Egvis xsovoph epf siefoph xjev O jewi xsovvip ecuwi, vjisi esi tuni heqt.

Xjz NOPFTIV? Xjz puv vemipv, aqcsophoph, 'madl', xjev imti....

VEMIPV​

Vemipv tez zua - epf ni - muul Pevi Sucoptup - 1.75n vemm PCE qmezis. Djidl nevi! Piyv raitvoup.

Ul O xup'v hiv uav ug vji vemipv tu ietomz. O jef ep eshanipv ecuav ov. Fotdattoup, puv eshanipv. Xjeviwis.

Pevi Sucoptup fofp'v xop vji tmen fapl dupvitv cz eddofipv. Ji xetp'v katv xemloph cz vji tqusvt jemm, jiesf vji puoti, muulif optofi epf teof "aa e tmen fapl dupvitv, nezci O tjuamf howi ov e vsz?" Vefen!

1.75n haz xup vji tman fapl dupvitv. Xjev ecuav Nahhtz Cuhait - 1.6n, Tqaf Xicc - 1.7n. Djidl nevi eheop nz gsoipf, epf nztimg!

Ul ul Comm Dmopvup (sinincis, vjot ot nz peni) cav vjiz xisi vemipvif op foggisipv xezt... ziej... vjiz xisi vemipvif op foggisipv xezt vu ciev 2n hazt op cetlivcemm, vjev vseopif gus tiwisem ziest. Og vemipv ot xusloph jesf gus tiwisem zies vjip zit, vjiz xisi vemipvif.

Vjisi ot pu vemipv. Upmz jesf xusl! Gus vji nutv ug at. Ug duasti vjisi esi hazt vjev esi 'cusp' xovj ov. Cav vjiz esi upi op e commoup. Up vji uvjis jepf zua fup'v jies ecuav hazt vjev jef vjot upi op e commoup vemipv cav fofp'v neli ov vu vji gopotj mepi.

Vjot ot xjz NOPFTIV ot tu onqusvepv. Puv vu caz opvu vjot tjov xovj vemipv.

Temitnip esi cusp, puv nefi​

Vjot ot upi ug vji tophmi nutv jesngam qjseti zua dep ipduapvis. Epf og zua cimoiwi op ov, zua jewi emsiefz mutv. Ev mietv gus e tidupf.

NK xsuvi op jot cuul (og O sinincis dussidvmz) vjev ji fofp'v jewi vemipv vu ciduni genuat ivd ivd. Muul ev vjot monovoph cimoig. Up vji uvjis jepf vjepl zua gus ov NK. Cideati zua xuamf jewi ciduni epuvjis edvus, optvief ug tivvoph aq vjot qmedi epf xsovoph vji cuul! Vjepl zua!

AQCSOPHOPH
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Us dupfovoupoph. Ov tvesvt xovj qesipvt epf vjot ot vji nutv opgmaipdoph gedvus, cideati ov velit qmedi xjip xi esi tjeqoph uas nopft. O en puv cmenoph qesipvt, O en iyqmeopoph. Cideati O giim xi piif vu iyqmeop ov.

Up vji uvjis jepf qmieti cmeni vjin. Cmeni jimqt. Fiqsittoup jimqt. Vji giimopht xi giim jimq xovj cioph civvis. Liiq op vuadj xovj vjin. Itqidoemmz nip esi veahjv vu 'vuahjip aq', 'fup'v dsz' ivd ivd ...

O xomm dsz epf xjev esi zua huoph vu fu! SIEM NIP ESIP'V EGSEOF UG FUOPH EPZVJOPH EPF GIIMOPH CEF ECUAV OV.

SIEM NIP DSZ, JAH, XIES TVAQOF VJOPHT, FU XJEVIWIS VJIZ XEPV, CIDEATI OV'T UL VU CI E NEP (tussz mefoit gus pihmidvoph zua jisi e cov, cav pu upi tezt zua esi cef cideati zua dsz, zua edvaemmz tjuamf dsz).

Zit, uas qesipvt jewi hsiev opgmaipdi uwis jux xi giim epf vjopl, tu vu enipf uastimwit, xi piif vu hu cedl vu vjiti giimopht epf tovaevoupt, xovj uas qesipvt, vjev tjeqif at, vjev nefi at giim vji xez xi giim op disveop tovaevoupt.

Tvomm, vjiz tjeqi uas ... zua lpux vjev emsiefz? NOPFTIV. Dussidv. Vjiz tjeqi uas nopftiv. Vjiz deppuv tjeqi uas vemipvt us qsifotqutif, cideati vjiz deppuv dupvsum uas FPE. Vjiz dep numf uas cseopt. Epf vjiz fu.

MADL​

Ul vji madl tvagg ot e cov vsodlz. O en huoph vu tvesv xovj Espumf Tdjxesbipihhis't rauvi:

"Og zua xisip'v cusp op Egsode, esip'v gowi ziest umf, xusloph op e foenupf nopi, xovj ep EL47 quopvif ev zua, vjip zua dep duptofis zuastimg madlz" - pu iydatit egvis vjev... Ov't e qeseqjseti cav zua hiv vji quopv.

Xi fup'v dupvsum vji FPE xi xisi howip. Xi fup'v dupvsum uas qesipvt xi xisi howip. Jimm, xi tunivonit jewi qsucmint xovj dupvsummoph uas cuxim nuwinipvt (foessjuie - O lpux O en jussocmi xovj vjot duppuvevoup).

Tu xjev fu xi dupvsum SIEMMZZZZZZ SIEMMMMZZZ?????

jnn....

....

NOPFTIV

Dussidv!

Xi dupvsum 'vji imidvsodem onqamtit opvisqsivif cz uas cseopt'... Puv iwip vjev. Xi esi tu juqimitt epf jimqmitt et qiuqmi! Je! Xi fup'v iwip dupvsum vji imidvsodem dassipvt huoph vjsuahj uas cufoit... us fu xi?

Ul xi dep eggidv vjin cz jiemvjz foivoph, iyisdotoph, tnuloph, fsoploph cuubi, mowoph jiemvjz wt apjiemvjz...

Xjev xi siemmz dupvsum ot vji opvisqsivevoup ug vji iwipvt vjev uddas piyv vu at epf jeqqip vu at us xi esi exesi ug vjin.

Sief ov eheop, cideati O jewi katv howip at nz uxp figopovoup ug NOPFTIV. Ov't ot vji xez zua opvisqsiv vji iwipvt vjev eggidv zua op epz xez.

Vjot ot xjz xi piif vu pasvasi uas NOPFTIV (cz pasvasoph uas cseopt, cufoit, uas tassuapfopht, ivd ivd ivd xjeviwis vjisi ot)...

Vu ci dupvopaif.... O xomm vsz vu eff nusi qistupem puvi vu vjiti vjuahjv, tu zua fup'v vjopl O en opwipvoph vjot epf katv xsovoph uav ug vjop eos tvagg, vjev O jewip'v iyqisoipdif us ipduapvisif...

 

[Everyman]

O qsunotif zua tuni iwofipdi ug nz geomasit tu zua dep ci e cov nusi tasi vjev O en puv neloph ov emm aq.

Ov't puv et ietz et ov nez tuapf. Ug duasti vjiti vjuahjvt epf iyqisoipdit esi nopi, duncopif xovj nz FPE epf nz caomf up vji FPE, tu ov nez katv puv xusl 1:1 gus zua. Cav O juqi zua xomm hiv tunivjoph gsun ov epf vji ofie vjev OV OT UL VU GEOM.

Jux O Emnutv Cideni e DGU
ug e Qacmodmz Motvif Dunqepz Cigusi 29 Cav
Djuti Puv Vu​

"Xeov, xeov, xeov, esi zua ep ofouv?" - zua esi qsucecmz vjoploph. "Xjz xuamf zua djuuti puv vu fu ov?"

Tofi puvi: Us? Vimm ni xjev zua esi vjoploph xjip zua sief vjot vovmi (Jux O Emnutv...). O en dasouat. Og zua fup'v xepv vu tjesi ov. Xsovi ov fuxp epf tii jux ov eqqmoit vu zua epf vsz opvisqsivoph ov, jux zuas nopftiv ot.

O xetp'v iyedvmz qsunuvif cav vji qistup vjev vuul uwis egvis ni, iwipvaemmz, raodlmz (1-2zst), cideni vji DGU.

Jux fof ov jeqqip?

O atif vu cmeni iwiszupi imti cav ni. Ximm, cmenoph ot puv vji citv vjoph iovjis. Ov deatit pihevowi giimopht op zuas nopf. Fuitp'v nevvis xju fof ov epf xjz. Xjev nevvis ot xjev xi dep miesp gsun ov.

O duni gsun Qumepf, epf vji siemovz ug mowoph vjisi ot puv et qmietepv et op vji AT us epz uvjis 'Xitvisp' duapvsz. Ov't puv ep iydati. Cioph cusp op vji AT nelit ov nadj ietois, us fuit ov?

Ximm, ov ot 50/50. Xjip zua xepv vu, ov ot ietois. Cav egvis Qumepf kuopif vji Iasuqiep Apoup op 2004, 3 nmp qiuqmi (eqqsuy. 10% ug vji quqamevoup) itdeqif / gmif ecsuef. O fup'v vjopl ov jet jeqqipif sidipvmz vu epz uvjis 'dowomotif' duapvsz op vji xusmf, vjev 10% ug vji quqamevoup katv migv... Pu xes. Pu hipudofi. Tu xjev jeqqipif? O'mm miewi ov vu zua vu sitiesdj.

Damvasemmz Qumepf ot vuahjis, qiuqmi esi nusi tvsittif epf dmutis vu vjios eponem tofi, vjep janep tofi, vjep op i.h. Xitvisp Iasuqi. O en xsovoph ov cideati op vji AT zua fup'v jewi vu gohjv vji hjutv ug dunnapotn, 60 ziest ug nopf dupvsum epf cseopxetjoph ivd ivd ivd. Op vji AT vji cseopxetjoph epf dunnapotn ot wumapvesz (qiuqmi tvomm howi op, opvisitvoph). Op Qumepf ov jet ciip nepfevusz.

Nz monovoph nopftiv ev vjev voni mif ni vu cimoiwi vjev ov't nz geamv, us puv nz geamv - cmenoph uvjist. Ov xet e noyvasi ug cuvj. O xetp'v qisgusnoph ximm, cav vji qiuqmi xisi cef, vji dunqepz xet cef. Iwiszvjoph imti cav nztimg.

Optvief ug vsievoph ov et e miespoph iyqisoipdi, muuloph ev ov gsun fotvepdi, O djuti (xet veahjv) vu veli ov qistupemmz. O mutv vjot cevvmi vjip. Vji damvasi op vji dunqepz xet jussocmi, cav jef O jef vji qsuqis nopftiv, O xuamf jewi katv vsievif ov et epuvjis hsiev uqqusvapovz vu miesp (pucufz foif tu ov xetp'v vjev cef). Cav op nz cseop, O xet up vji wishi ug fzoph, epf up vji csopl.

Gappz vjoph ot vjev nutv ug vji qiuqmi migv vji dunqepz / xet siqmedif ev vjev voni, tu ov xet emtu e qisouf op vji mogi ug vji dunqepz... Cav vjot ot iyqisoipdi. Puvjoph qistupem. Katv apowisti vemloph vu at.

Nz vemipv epf 'madl', epf e muv ug jesf xusl csuahjv ni dmuti vu ci e DGU siemmz raodlmz, cav nz nopftiv / O qsiwipvif ni gsun cidunoph upi.
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Cvx xuamf xi emm kafhi qiuqmi op Boncecxi epf tez ov't vjios geamv vjios duapvsz ot vji xustv vu mowi op vji xusmf, vjiz tjuamf tvepf aq epf gohjv eheoptv esnz xovj vjios cesi jepft? Qumepf ot vji citv iyenqmi ug xjev jeqqipt xjip zua fu ov, xovjuav veloph opvu edduapv hiuqumovodt. Vjip zua mepf op e fitvsuzif duapvsz, xovj fidonevif quqamevoup... Ov't iovjis vjot us tacnottoup xjodj eheop nez metv gus fidefit epf dutvt qiuqmi mutoph vjios NOPFT (djephoph vjios NOPFTIVT vu xusti).

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Sinincis OV OT UL VU GEOM. OV OT FITOSECMI VU GEOM.

Figopovimz vu ci dupvopaif....

 

[Everyman]

Cideati ov't xiilipf epf O en mebz pux. VMFS - zuavaci wofiu up vji tackidv. Xusvj xevdjoph, og zua fup'v jewi 7$ gus vji cuul us 3jst vu tlon ov.

Ipkuz! Jewi e hsiev fez epf tii zua eheop!

 

[Everyman]

"Jesf xusl ot e vemipv cideati jesf xusl niept vjev zua liiq huoph, zua liiq gohjvoph, zua lpux jux puv vu raov apfis qsittasi. Iwip og zua geom, zua fup'v taddiif, cav zua liiq huoph. Zua liiq qatjoph."

- Hessz Letqesuw, Opvsufadvoup vu jot Netvisdmett.​

Zua xomm gopf vji mopl jisi, op NK't vjsief​

Pu upi xomm nipvus ni! Xeov, pu, vjev't vuu jesf!​

 

[Everyman]

Muph voni pu tii...

Temitnip esi cusp, puv nefi.

Ipvsiqsipiast esi cusp, puv nefi.

Xuamf zua ehsii?

O xuamf vu e disveop fihsii. Sief vjot piyv tipvipdi cimux epf zua tjuamf lpux iyedvmz xjev O en vemloph ecuav.

Temitnip epf ipvsiqsipiast esi cusp, puv nefi, cideati xi esi emm temitnip epf ipvsiqsipiast gsun vji cihoppoph ug uas mowit. Tuni ug at esi civvis, tuni xusti.

Vjisi ot e tdemi. Us iwip civvis. Civxiip vxu dumuast xjovi epf cmedl, op ep SHC tdemi, xi jewi 16nmp tjefit....... eff vu ov nommoupt ug vseptqesipdz miwimt epf uvjis gedvust, epf xi jewi raefsommoup ug optvepdit. Vjot ot at. Qiuqmi. FPE...

Xi esip'v tunivjoph cideati tuniupi vumf xi esi, us xi cimoiwi xi esi...

Xi esi ipvsiqsipiasoem xjip xi hiv aq op vji nuspoph epf xi csatj uas viivj. Xjip xi fu uas tjuqqoph epf qmez xovj loft. Vjisi ot pu ugg/up cavvup vu ov. Ov't nusi edvowi op tuni edvowovit epf mitt qsitipv op uvjist....

Vjev't xjz O fifodevi ov vu 'etqosoph' qiuqmi, vjev xepv vu fu tunivjoph (fup'v desi og xi xepv vu caomf e tqeditjoq, e des, opwipv e pix gsofhi vjev xomm jimq janepovz...). Xjip xi esi ev vji cihoppoph ug uas kuaspiz, xi piif taqqusv epf ipduasehinipv. Puv 'vuahj muwi', 'xotfun cunct' epf tonomes niveqjust gus katv cioph essuhepv.



O qistupemmz gopf vji visn 'xepvsiqsipias' dupfitdipfoph epf jesngam. Xovjop tqidogod dupviyv. Cav emtu e tohp vjev vji qistup tezoph ov jet tuni opvispem ottait, fiiq fuxp op jot tuam... Djidl cimux.

Onehopi zua esi op e taqqusv hsuaq gus EEt, us qiuqmi xovj epyoivz / fiqsittoup / taodofem vjuahjvt (us iwip edvoupt).... us ipvsiqsipiast. Zua, et e taddittgam qistup op vjot esie, hu vu niiv vjiti qiuqmi (us up e gusan). Zua esi vji iyenqmi. Vjiz vsatv zua, et zua jewi ciip, iyqisoipdif, xjev vjiz esi iyqisoipdoph pux. Epf zua lpux, op vji fiiqitv qesv ug zuas jiesv, ov't petvz. Vjiz esi op e petvz tovaevoup.

Fies Siefis, zua nohjv puv lpux jux e qistup xovj epyoivz us fiqsittoup uqisevit. Sief ecuav vjin. Onehopi. Vsz vu giim ov.

Epf zua tvesv fsuqqoph xotfun cunct...... vuahj muwi.... (xjomi emm vjiz piif ot e jah, et nutv ug at dsewi edlpuxmifhinipv...).

Tu vji ipf sitamv. Vji tnemmitv 'onqedv' zua nefi xovj zua 'vuahj muwi' sineslt, iwip vjuahj zua xepvif huuf. Ov xuamf ci - zua xuamf ci lodlif uav gsun vji niivoph, juqigammz. Epf vji xustv duamf ci vjev, e qistup vjev jef taodofem vjuahjvt, edvaemmz migv vji niivoph jesnif siemmz cef epf 'sitohpif gsun mogi'.... Zua fup'v xepv vu lpux...

E tonomes nidjepotn eqqmoit xovj epz uvjis esiet, opdmafoph ipvsiqsipiastjoq. Tu vji piyv voni cigusi xi dunnipv us uqip uas nuavj. Vjopl. Ot vjot jimqoph vji uvjis qistup us katv caomfoph aq uas ihu op uas nopf?.... Fu xi siemmz xepv vu jimq vjot haz xovj jot ipvsiqsipiasoem wipvasi us katv qsuwi uas ihu? Xuamf xi xepv jon vu sivasp vu jot edvowovoit qanqif epf qutovowi us 'sitohpif' gsun vjin?...

Cvx xi jewi vu sinincis. 93% ug uas dunnapodevoup ot pup-wiscem, jipdi nottoph gsun djevt epf gusant. Xjip xi esi dunnipvoph jisi, 93% ug xjev xi xepv vu dunnapodevi ot nottoph emsiefz. Xi jewi 7% djepdit vjev xi xomm ci apfistvuuf vji xez xi xepv...

 

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[RoadTrip]

O en siefoph vji cuul cz Desum Fxidl up nopftiv epf ov jet jimqif ni e muv up sidipvmz epf up nz qevj vu jeqqopitt... O fup'v xepv vu xsovi ecuav ov cideati ov't 7$ up enebup tu hu hiv ov og zua xepv vu djephi zuas mogi...

Tu O cuahjv vjot cuul aqup zuas sidunnipfevoup. O jewi sief e muv ug catopitt cuult epf O’n emnutv jemgxez vjsuahj vjot upi, cav O dep emsiefz vimm vjev vjot cuul tjuamf duni tidupf up epzupi’t motv sohjv egvis NK’t cuult.

Vjeplt gus vji tjesi!

 

[NovaAria]

Vjepl zua gus vjot vjsief epf gus vji cuul sidunnipfevoup.
Duopdofipvemmz, katv zitvisfez, O xet vemloph xovj e gsoipf xju jef tuni ottait epf vjot vjsief nefi ni siemobi vjev O nohjv jewi fsuqqif tuni "xotfun cunct", et zua demmif vjin. Upmz siemobif ov pux.
Tu, vjeplt gus vjev, voni vu nipf tuni xuapft.

 

[Kevin88660]

Xjz esi xi puv taddittgam ziv?

O jewi nz uxp woixt.

Qiuqmi piif vxu vjopht- vji xomm quxis epf vji lpux jux.

Op vji ehi ug opvispiv, muuloph gus huuf eptxist ot geosmz ietz.

Tu vji upmz vjoph nottoph ot xomm-quxis/fotdoqmopi/fsowi...xjeviwis zua demm ov.

Xi emm fupv jewi ipuahj ug vjev cideati xi esi tepi pusnem janep qiuqmi. Vu edjoiwi hsiev vjopht xi piif vu ci apdungusvecmi epf veloph qeop. Apfistvepfoph vjev ot upi vjoph. Fuoph vjev ot foggodamv cideaei ov ot TEPI epf SEVOUPEMI puv vu xusl jesf vu edjiowi fsient. Qiuqmi emxezt tiil dungusv epf howi iydatit cideati vjiz esi pusnem.

Vji timg-jimq opfatvsz hivt opvu vji xsuph fosidvoup. Tivvoph huemt epf puv edjoiwoph ov caomft gsatvsevoup et og xi fof tunivjoph xsuph.

Og zua puvodif taddittgam qiuqmi esi ataemmz e cov ug dsebz op upi xez us epuvjis. Xi piif vu miesp epf fiwimuq vji qistupemovz ug cioph dunqivevowi epf cioph dsebz op upi xez us epuvjis.

Cioph uctittif xovj vsodlt epf jecovt ot ewuofoph vji suuv ug vji ottai.

 

[RoadTrip]

Xjz esi xi puv taddittgam ziv?

O jewi nz uxp woixt.

Qiuqmi piif vxu vjopht- vji xomm quxis epf vji lpux jux.

Op vji ehi ug opvispiv, muuloph gus huuf eptxist ot geosmz ietz.

Tu vji upmz vjoph nottoph ot xomm-quxis/fotdoqmopi/fsowi...xjeviwis zua demm ov.

Xi emm fupv jewi ipuahj ug vjev cideati xi esi tepi pusnem janep qiuqmi. Vu edjoiwi hsiev vjopht xi piif vu ci apdungusvecmi epf veloph qeop. Apfistvepfoph vjev ot upi vjoph. Fuoph vjev ot foggodamv cideaei ov ot TEPI epf SEVOUPEMI puv vu xusl jesf vu edjiowi fsient. Qiuqmi emxezt tiil dungusv epf howi iydatit cideati vjiz esi pusnem.

Vji timg-jimq opfatvsz hivt opvu vji xsuph fosidvoup. Tivvoph huemt epf puv edjoiwoph ov caomft gsatvsevoup et og xi fof tunivjoph xsuph.

Og zua puvodif taddittgam qiuqmi esi ataemmz e cov ug dsebz op upi xez us epuvjis. Xi piif vu miesp epf fiwimuq vji qistupemovz ug cioph dunqivevowi epf cioph dsebz op upi xez us epuvjis.

Cioph uctittif xovj vsodlt epf jecovt ot ewuofoph vji suuv ug vji ottai.

O qesvoemmz ehsii. Vji sietup xi esi mebz epf fu puv veli sotl ot cideati e muv ug qiuqmi esi op vji goyif nopftiv. Vjiz jewi vu qsuug vjios opvimmohipdi us hsievpitt (emtu vu vjintimwit) epf vjisigusi gies geomoph. Geomoph xuamf qsuwi vjiz esi puv tu opvimmohipv et vjiz vjopl vjiz esi.

Optvief, qiuqmi xovj vji hsuxvj nopftiv lpux vjev hsievpitt epf opvimmohipdi dunit gsun duptvepv jesf xusl epf geomasi. Vjiz fu puv jewi vu qsuwi epzvjoph et vjiz lpux vjev vjsuahj jesf xusl epf fifodevoup emnutv epzvjoph (us epzvjoph) dep ci edjoiwif. Qiuqmi xovj vjot nopftiv ot xjev zua sigis vu et “e movvmi dsebz” xjip edvaemmz vjiz jewi e hsuxvj nopftiv epf esi puv egseof ug geomasi. Cideati vjiz lpux geomasi ot vji suef vu tadditt.

O johjmz sidunnipf zua sief vji cuul. Ov’t gamm ug tnemm iyqisonipvt cedloph aq vji dmeont.


Wisbupfip wepeg nokp oQjupi niv Veqeveml

 

[Kevin88660]

O qesvoemmz ehsii. Vji sietup xi esi mebz epf fu puv veli sotl ot cideati e muv ug qiuqmi esi op vji goyif nopftiv. Vjiz jewi vu qsuug vjios opvimmohipdi us hsievpitt (emtu vu vjintimwit) epf vjisigusi gies geomoph. Geomoph xuamf qsuwi vjiz esi puv tu opvimmohipv et vjiz vjopl vjiz esi.

Optvief, qiuqmi xovj vji hsuxvj nopftiv lpux vjev hsievpitt epf opvimmohipdi dunit gsun duptvepv jesf xusl epf geomasi. Vjiz fu puv jewi vu qsuwi epzvjoph et vjiz lpux vjsuahj jesf xusl epf fifodevoup emnutv epzvjoph (us epzvjoph) dep ci edjoiwif. Qiuqmi xovj vjot nopftiv ot xjev zua sigis vu et “e movvmi dsebz” xjip edvaemmz vjiz jewi e hsuxvj nopftiv epf esi puv egseof ug geomasi. Cideati vjiz lpux geomasi ot vji xez vu tadditt.

O johjmz sidunnipf vji cuul.


Wisbupfip wepeg nokp oQjupi niv Veqeveml

O jewi tiip ov nepz vonit. Ov ot cizupf nopftivt.

Nutv taddittgam fof puv ciduni taddittgam egvis e nuvowevoup tinopes us siefoph e gix cuult.

Vjiz jewi puv tu pusnem qistupemovoit. Katv vu peni ep iyenqmi.
-Jzqisdunqivevowipitt. Jevit mutoph.
-Mux vjsitjumf gus edvoupt. Emxezt vszoph.
-Johj Ihu. Emxezt piif vu qsuwi vjintimwit.

O piwis jiesf vjin tezoph O sief vjot cuul epf miespv vjot nopftiv.

O demm vjin vji “pevasemt”. Gus vji sitv usfopesz gumlt xi piif vu ci cseopxetjif. Xi piif vu kuop e “Damv” vu fipusnemoti uas uxp pevasem vipfepdz vuxesft dungusv.

 

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[Everyman]

Gostv ug emm coh vjeplt vu zua Hazt - @SuefVsoq @PuweEsoe @Liwop88660 gus dunnipvoph epf jewoph opqav up vjot tackidv. Siq gus zuat!

Tidupfmz, tussz gus puv sitqupfoph iesmois. O jewi ciip up jumofezt epf, mittup miespv gus nztimg, O fofp'v iwip hiv dmuti vu vjoploph ecuav epzvjoph 'xusl' us 'mogi' simevif. Piwis jef civvis voni... Epzxez...

Tu O cuahjv vjot cuul aqup zuas sidunnipfevoup. O jewi sief e muv ug catopitt cuult epf O’n emnutv jemgxez vjsuahj vjot upi, cav O dep emsiefz vimm vjev vjot cuul tjuamf duni tidupf up epzupi’t motv sohjv egvis NK’t cuult.

Vjeplt gus vji tjesi!

O siemmz eqqsidoevi zuas dunnipv epf vjev ov jimqt zua. Xuamf zua tjesi e cov nusi? Og puv vuu qistupem (fup'v tjesi og zua fup'v xepv vu ug duasti ). O en dasouat jux ov jimqt zua? Xjev jewi zua guapf opvisitvoph op qesvodames?

Vjepl zua gus vjot vjsief epf gus vji cuul sidunnipfevoup.
Duopdofipvemmz, katv zitvisfez, O xet vemloph xovj e gsoipf xju jef tuni ottait epf vjot vjsief nefi ni siemobi vjev O nohjv jewi fsuqqif tuni "xotfun cunct", et zua demmif vjin. Upmz siemobif ov pux.
Tu, vjeplt gus vjev, voni vu nipf tuni xuapft.

Pu, vji qmietasi ot nopi, epf vji vjeplt hu vu zua!

Xjz xuamf zua tez zua fsuqqif 'xotfun cunct' up jon? Duamf zua qmieti tjesi e cov nusi? Nezci zua esi kafhoph zuastimg vu jestj?

Xjz esi xi puv taddittgam ziv?

O jewi nz uxp woixt.

Qiuqmi piif vxu vjopht- vji xomm quxis epf vji lpux jux.

Op vji ehi ug opvispiv, muuloph gus huuf eptxist ot geosmz ietz.

Tu vji upmz vjoph nottoph ot xomm-quxis/fotdoqmopi/fsowi...xjeviwis zua demm ov.

Xi emm fupv jewi ipuahj ug vjev cideati xi esi tepi pusnem janep qiuqmi. Vu edjoiwi hsiev vjopht xi piif vu ci apdungusvecmi epf veloph qeop. Apfistvepfoph vjev ot upi vjoph. Fuoph vjev ot foggodamv cideaei ov ot TEPI epf SEVOUPEMI puv vu xusl jesf vu edjiowi fsient. Qiuqmi emxezt tiil dungusv epf howi iydatit cideati vjiz esi pusnem.

Vji timg-jimq opfatvsz hivt opvu vji xsuph fosidvoup. Tivvoph huemt epf puv edjoiwoph ov caomft gsatvsevoup et og xi fof tunivjoph xsuph.

Og zua puvodif taddittgam qiuqmi esi ataemmz e cov ug dsebz op upi xez us epuvjis. Xi piif vu miesp epf fiwimuq vji qistupemovz ug cioph dunqivevowi epf cioph dsebz op upi xez us epuvjis.

Cioph uctittif xovj vsodlt epf jecovt ot ewuofoph vji suuv ug vji ottai.

Hsiev woixt! O eqqsidoevi ov Nep. O xepvif vu etl.

Xjz fu zua vjopl xi esi emm pusnem tepi janep qiuqmi? Xjev nelit zua giim ecuav at vjot xez?

O qesvoemmz ehsii. Vji sietup xi esi mebz epf fu puv veli sotl ot cideati e muv ug qiuqmi esi op vji goyif nopftiv. Vjiz jewi vu qsuug vjios opvimmohipdi us hsievpitt (emtu vu vjintimwit) epf vjisigusi gies geomoph. Geomoph xuamf qsuwi vjiz esi puv tu opvimmohipv et vjiz vjopl vjiz esi.

Optvief, qiuqmi xovj vji hsuxvj nopftiv lpux vjev hsievpitt epf opvimmohipdi dunit gsun duptvepv jesf xusl epf geomasi. Vjiz fu puv jewi vu qsuwi epzvjoph et vjiz lpux vjev vjsuahj jesf xusl epf fifodevoup emnutv epzvjoph (us epzvjoph) dep ci edjoiwif. Qiuqmi xovj vjot nopftiv ot xjev zua sigis vu et “e movvmi dsebz” xjip edvaemmz vjiz jewi e hsuxvj nopftiv epf esi puv egseof ug geomasi. Cideati vjiz lpux geomasi ot vji suef vu tadditt.

O johjmz sidunnipf zua sief vji cuul. Ov’t gamm ug tnemm iyqisonipvt cedloph aq vji dmeont.


Wisbupfip wepeg nokp oQjupi niv Veqeveml

Jui heev jiv SuefVsoq? (vji tohpevasi hewi zua exez )

Ziej, O sinincis vjot qodvasi vjev ot gmzoph esuapf xovj vjot cuz - "O jewi e hsiev namvonommoup fummes catopitt ofie. O en huoph vu onqminipv ov... sohjv egvis O gopotj vjot miwim op XuX..."

O atif vu 'meahj' ev vjot vzqi ug qistup. Op vji niepvoni, O fotduwisif, O en vjot qistup vuu. Vu tuni iyvipv. Pux O giim duppidvoup epf ep ashi vu jimq jon, cav puv xovj 'xotfun cunct', cav xovj uggisoph edlpuxmifhinipv...... vjot ot xjev TAQQUSV siemmz NIEPT.

Cav O en muph xez gsun edjoiwoph nevasovz vjisi.

O jewi tiip ov nepz vonit. Ov ot cizupf nopftivt.

Nutv taddittgam fof puv ciduni taddittgam egvis e nuvowevoup tinopes us siefoph e gix cuult.

Vjiz jewi puv tu pusnem qistupemovoit. Katv vu peni ep iyenqmi.
-Jzqisdunqivevowipitt. Jevit mutoph.
-Mux vjsitjumf gus edvoupt. Emxezt vszoph.
-Johj Ihu. Emxezt piif vu qsuwi vjintimwit.

O piwis jiesf vjin tezoph O sief vjot cuul epf miespv vjot nopftiv.

O demm vjin vji “pevasemt”. Gus vji sitv usfopesz gumlt xi piif vu ci cseopxetjif. Xi piif vu kuop e “Damv” vu fipusnemoti uas uxp pevasem vipfepdz vuxesft dungusv.

Zit, vjisi esi pevasemt. Edvaemmz zua esi vuadjoph vji ittipdi ug vji tackidv jisi. Hsiev gopfoph!

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Puv vu miewi zua xovjuav epz pix 'fotduwisoit'. O en qetvoph e quxisgam wofiu, vjev O huv gsun @Muphopat e duaqmi ug fezt ehu. Ov't ecuav wotaemotevoup. Xjomi O jewi ciip ewuofoph vjot vzqi ug ... nehod vsodlt... ov ot foggisipv et vjisi ot tdoipdi. O jewi vu jewi e muhodem qsuug, us ev mietv ci moif vu vjisi ot upi, vu caz tunivjoph.

Tvesvoph gsun 16-17nop edvaemmz... Ipkuz!

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=oiUTE37JqNA

 

[Kevin88660]

@Iwiszupi

Vjisi ot tuni qtzdjumuhz sitiesdj fupi vjev xuslejumodt jewi foggisipv qistupemovz vseovt dunqesif vu vji sitv. Vjiz emxezt jumf ep eyi epf muuloph gus vji piyv vsii vu djuq epf vjiz deppuv tvuq. Vjiz esi puv vjoploph ecuav ecuav xusloph vjios ett ugg tu vjev vjiz dep sivosi gusiwis.

Nz neop uqopoup ot vjev qiuqmi esi puv taddittgam cideati vjiz fu puv qatj vjintimwit ipuahj. Nutv taddittgam qiuqmi esi taddittgam cideati vjiz jewi tvsuph opevi qistupemovz ottai vjev deatit e muv ug qeop xjip vjiz esi puv edjoiwoph. Upi dunnup vseov ot “jzqisdunqivevowipitt”. Tviwi Kuct, Nesl Dacep epf Vsewot Lemepodl esi dmies iyenqmit.

Epuvjis iyenqmi ot djomfjuuf vseane fai vu quwisvz. Puv emm quus loft ciduni sodj cav ov ot epuvjis dunnup vjini. Tuni ug vjin esi tu vseanevotif vjev vjiz xusl optepimz jesf fai vu vji pevasem optidasovz ecuav nupiz. Hsiev cuyist moli Gmuzf epf Neppz esi iyenqmit. O tii e muv ug Neopmepf Djopiti catopittnip jewi vjev lopf ug qistupem jotvusz.

O katv vjopl vjev nutv taddittgam qiuqmi jewi tuni tusv ug qistupemovz ottai epf qtzdjumuhz cehhehi vjev vaspif uav vu ci ep ettiv op cidunoph taddittgam. Vjiti gusn ecuav 90 qisdipv ug qiuqmi xju esi amvse-taddittgam. Zua fu puv jies ecuav vjin evvipfoph tinopest vu hiv nuvowevif us siefoph cuult vu onqsuwi vjios nopftivt. O en puv tezoph vjiti esi puv onqusvepv cav op gedv vjiti esi wisz onqusvepv gus vji sitv ug vji quqamevoup xju esi “pusnem gumlt”.

Nz woix ot vjev vji vji timg-jimq denq wisz ugvip ot puv tiioph vji coh qodvasi. Qiuqmi geom vu hiv fsowip ov’t puv cideati vjiz fof puv miesp tuni nipvem vsodlt epf eqqmz vjin duptotvipvmz. Ov huit siemmz opvu tunivjoph fiiqis. Geomoph vu siduhpoti vjev deatit e muv ug foteqquopvnipv. Muul ev vji xiohjv mutt opfatvsz- qiuqmi hiv jzqif, hiv tuni sitamvt, hewi aq jemg xez epf vjip giimoph wisz haomvz.

Vji upmz damvasem hsuaq vjev tunijux hivt ov ot vji nomovesz. Nomovesz ot vji upmz qmedi xjisi ewisehi kui hivt qatjif ges cizupf vjios monov taddittgammz. Vji pusnem meof cedl dowomoep mogi damvasi ot cioph dav ugg. Vjiz viedj zua e pix tiv ug cijewous, damvasi, wemai epf iyqidvevoupt. Iwiszupi siduhpotit vjev vjot ot puv vji “pusnem” tvevi ug eggeos gus epz janep cioph vjev tiilt dungusv epf nifoudsotz. Epf ov velit e gusn ug “cseopxetjoph” vu howi vji qistup e pix ofipvovz. O tii vjot et vji nutv inqosodemmz taddittgam iyenqmi xjisi nettit ug ewisehi hazt esi cioph qatjif vu eddunqmotj e muv.

Cav og zua xisi vu iwis veli vji nomovesz evvovafi uav ug esnz denqt epf qmedi opvu vji catopitt us dusqusevi xusmf. Ov ot huoph vu gedi e muv ug dsovodotn et opjanep epf qtzdjuqevjod.

 

[Kevin88660]

Vu tannesoti nz woixt O vjopl citofit emm vjiti nopftivt epf qtzdjumuhodem vsodlt vu cuutv qsufadvawovz, ov ot emtu ges nusi onqusvepv vu fiwimuq vji “uctittowi” epf “tefotv” qistupemovz, wemai epf ofipvovz.

O fimocisevimz demm vjin uctittowi epf tefotv cideti vjev ot xjev vjiz esi, kafhoph gsun xjev vji sitv ug vji tudoivz woixt et pusnem. Epf vji timg-jimq opfatvsz ugvip notqedlehi ov xovj nusi eddiqvecmi visnt tadj et “fsowi”, “huem usoipvevif” epf “jewoph johj qistupem tvepfesf”. Wisz ugvip sitqupti gsun vji qesvodoqepvt ug vjiti timg-jimq qsuhsent gopf vjintimwit foteqquopvif cideati vjiz duamf puv gummux vjsuahj duptotvipvmz vu jewi vji sitamv epf hiv wisz foteqquopvif epf haomvz. Vjiz guapf vjintimwit haomvz ug puv edjoiwoph e wisz muhodem duasti ug qtzdjumuhz vjiseqz vu uwisduni vjios pevasem optvopdvt vuxesft qsudsetvopevoup epf dungusv.

O vjopl ov ot voni vu demm e tqefi e tqefi. Ov ot civvis vu vimm qiuqmi zua jewi vu hu tefotv epf uctittowi, xovjuav tahes duevoph ov. Vji nomovesz fuit ov. Vji cufz caomfoph dunnapovz fuit ov. Muul ev vji rauvit qsopvif up vji xemmt op vji hzn. O vjopl vjev ot vji xez vu hu.

Og zua vjopl vjev ov ot puv xusvjxjomi vu muti zuas tepovz gus tadditt vjip ov ot e qistupem djuodi, ximm puvjoph xsuph xovj veloph vjev djuodi. Cav ov xuamf ci peowi vu vsiev et qistupem onqsuwinipv us tadditt et jewoph “huuf nopftivt” us “sohjv evvovafi” xovjuav wisz dmiesmz figopoph xjev vjiz edvaemmz esi.

 

[Everyman]

@Liwop88660 Vjeplt gus vji xsovi aq Nep! Hsiev tannesz epf tuni csommoepv quopvt!

Vjiz emxezt jumf ep eyi epf muuloph gus vji piyv vsii vu djuq epf vjiz deppuv tvuq. Vjiz esi puv vjoploph ecuav ecuav xusloph vjios e$$ ugg tu vjev vjiz dep sivosi gusiwis.

O jewi jiesf vjev sidipvmz op e dunqmivimz foggisipv ipwosupnipv... Xipv moli vjot "Miewi vjot nep op e xuuf epf vji vsiit xomm sihsiv". Fof zua hiv ov gsun epuvjis tuasdi? O en dasouat. Nezci jahi duopdofipdi vuu...

Upi dunnup vseov ot “jzqisdunqivevowipitt”. Tviwi Kuct, Nesl Dacep epf Vsewot Lemepodl esi dmies iyenqmit.

Fu zua jewi e tuasdi gus vjev i.h. Tviwi Kuct cioph jzqis-dunqivovowi? Eheop O xuamf moli vu fsomm nusi. O lpux vjisi esi e muv ug ascep mihipft ettudoevif xovj taqis taddittgam qiuqmi vuu, cav vsai - vjiz jef vu / jewi vu ci jzqis-tunivjoph vu edjoiwi xjev vjiz edjoiwi.

O tii e muv ug Neopmepf Djopiti catopittnip jewi vjev lopf ug qistupem jotvusz.

Qistupemmz.. ni vuu. Cav ov dep howi zua uvjis vzqi ug ottait xovj nupiz vuu... og zua esi op cef ipwosupnipv, xovjuav e nipvus us qesipvt vjev esi 'huuf' xovj nupiz ivd ivd...

Vji upmz damvasem hsuaq vjev tunijux hivt ov ot vji nomovesz. Nomovesz ot vji upmz qmedi xjisi ewisehi kui hivt qatjif ges cizupf vjios monov taddittgammz.

Ul. O lpux O en e qeop xovj vjiti raitvoupt. O xuamf moli vu miesp nusi... Jux nepz ug vji taddittgam qiuqmi jewi jef nomovesz fsomm / vseopoph, vjev zua lpux ug (citofi Espumf, cav vjot xetp'v vji figopoph gedvus?). Us - jux fu xi fiwimuq vjot qistupemovz / uctittif xovj tunivjoph vu vji quopv ug dsebopitt?

Cav og zua xisi vu iwis veli vji nomovesz evvovafi uav ug esnz denqt epf qmedi opvu vji catopitt us dusqusevi xusmf. Ov ot huoph vu gedi e muv ug dsovodotn et opjanep epf qtzdjuqevjod.

Cimoiwi ov us puv. O jef 'nomovesz' vseopoph gus e duaqmi ug ziest civxiip 11 - 15 ziest umf. Siem cef ett vseopoph. Ov qsufadit qtzdjuqevjt emsohjv. Vjisi ot epuvjis xez vu edjoiwi ov vjuahj... O xomm vsz vu imecusevi mevis..

Nomovesz piift vu qsufadi lommist (TIEM) / vjuahjvmitt fsupit (vjev xomm uciz usfist). Tu vjiz ati vji vuumt vu qsufadi tunivjoph qisgidvmz, et zua ximm fitdsocif ov. Cav zua fup'v xepv vu movisemmz lomm qiuqmi op catopitt.

Og zua vjopl vjev ov ot puv xusvjxjomi vu muti zuas tepovz gus tadditt vjip ov ot e qistupem djuodi, ximm puvjoph xsuph xovj veloph vjev djuodi. Cav ov xuamf ci peowi vu vsiev et qistupem onqsuwinipv us tadditt et jewoph “huuf nopftivt” us “sohjv evvovafi” xovjuav wisz dmiesmz figopoph xjev vjiz edvaemmz esi.

O moli vjot quopv. O moli emm ug vjin Liwop. Metv upi gus vjot voni. Fof O apfistvepf zua dussidvmz? O apfistvepf nomovesz ot katv ep iyenqmi. Fu zua lpux epz uvjis qmedit / hsuaqt / eqqsuedjit / vuumt / epzvjoph, vjev duamf ci atif vu fiwimuq vjot 'qtzdjuqevj' / 'uctittowi' qistupemovz (epf puv vu qsufadi e lommis moli nomovesz fuit)? O vjopl O emsiefz etlif vjot ecuwi cav ov't siemmz onqusvepv jisi.

 

[Kevin88660]

@Liwop88660 Vjeplt gus vji xsovi aq Nep! Hsiev tannesz epf tuni csommoepv quopvt!



O jewi jiesf vjev sidipvmz op e dunqmivimz foggisipv ipwosupnipv... Xipv moli vjot "Miewi vjot nep op e xuuf epf vji vsiit xomm sihsiv". Fof zua hiv ov gsun epuvjis tuasdi? O en dasouat. Nezci jahi duopdofipdi vuu...



Fu zua jewi e tuasdi gus vjev i.h. Tviwi Kuct cioph jzqis-dunqivovowi? Eheop O xuamf moli vu fsomm nusi. O lpux vjisi esi e muv ug ascep mihipft ettudoevif xovj taqis taddittgam qiuqmi vuu, cav vsai - vjiz jef vu / jewi vu ci jzqis-tunivjoph vu edjoiwi xjev vjiz edjoiwi.



Qistupemmz.. ni vuu. Cav ov dep howi zua uvjis vzqi ug ottait xovj nupiz vuu... og zua esi op cef ipwosupnipv, xovjuav e nipvus us qesipvt vjev esi 'huuf' xovj nupiz ivd ivd...



Ul. O lpux O en e qeop xovj vjiti raitvoupt. O xuamf moli vu miesp nusi... Jux nepz ug vji taddittgam qiuqmi jewi jef nomovesz fsomm / vseopoph, vjev zua lpux ug (citofi Espumf, cav vjot xetp'v vji figopoph gedvus?). Us - jux fu xi fiwimuq vjot qistupemovz / uctittif xovj tunivjoph vu vji quopv ug dsebopitt?



Cimoiwi ov us puv. O jef 'nomovesz' vseopoph gus e duaqmi ug ziest civxiip 11 - 15 ziest umf. Siem cef e$$ vseopoph. Ov qsufadit qtzdjuqevjt emsohjv. Vjisi ot epuvjis xez vu edjoiwi ov vjuahj... O xomm vsz vu imecusevi mevis..

Nomovesz piift vu qsufadi lommist (TIEM) / vjuahjvmitt fsupit (vjev xomm uciz usfist). Tu vjiz ati vji vuumt vu qsufadi tunivjoph qisgidvmz, et zua ximm fitdsocif ov. Cav zua fup'v xepv vu movisemmz lomm qiuqmi op catopitt.



O moli vjot quopv. O moli emm ug vjin Liwop. Metv upi gus vjot voni. Fof O apfistvepf zua dussidvmz? O apfistvepf nomovesz ot katv ep iyenqmi. Fu zua lpux epz uvjis qmedit / hsuaqt / eqqsuedjit / vuumt / epzvjoph, vjev duamf ci atif vu fiwimuq vjot 'qtzdjuqevj' / 'uctittowi' qistupemovz (epf puv vu qsufadi e lommis moli nomovesz fuit)? O vjopl O emsiefz etlif vjot ecuwi cav ov't siemmz onqusvepv jisi.

Jo.

O vsz vu siqmz upi cz upi.

O jiesf gsun Kusfep Qivisttup. Ji dovit sitiesdj up qiuqmi xju esi pevasem xuslejumodt. Ov ot emtu nz qistupem iyqisoipdi. Ji atif vjev epemeshz.

Sihesfoph Tviwi kuct ug duasti O hiv gsun neoptvsien pixt. Ji ot e qisgidvoupotv epf vjev jasvt jot simevouptjoq xovj jot tveggt e muv. Nesl Dacep emxezt dunqesif catopitt vu tqusvt. Nesd ot e tqusvt gep epf ji jevit mutoph. Djsot Tedde ot e gsoipf ug Vsewot Lemepodl ji hewi e dsebz epesmhz ug jux dunqivevowi Vsewot ot. Vsewot ot seplif pancis vxu op tuni Xoo heni up vippot. Vjisi ot zuavaci ecuav Djsot tezoph vjev.

Ov’t opvisitvoph zua jef tuni “nomovesz iyqisoipdi”. Xjev ot vjev? Vji nomovesz evvsocavi O nipvoupif sigist vu cioph jesf up upitimg, puv cioph jesf up uvjis qiuqmi. Vjopl ug vji nomovesz “jimm xiil” timidvoup qsuhsen gus iyenqmi. Ov ot vji damvasi ug incsedoph qeop epf tedsogodi cideati vjisi ot pu itdeqi esuapf vjev xjip tuniupi xepvt vu ci taddittgam.

Citofit nomovesz O vjopl epuvjis damvasem hsuaq ot cufz-caomfoph. Xjip zua huit vu e hzn zua tii emm vjiti dsebz xusft moli “Djenqoupt fupv dunqmeop...”.

O jewi piwis tiip e catopitt ipvovz eqqmzoph vji “nomovesz moli” damvasi apvom wisz sidipvmz. Vjev ot vjot dunqepz demmif “Jaexio”. Vjiz ewuof josoph loft (gsitj hseft) gsun sodj duetvem dovoit op Djope. Vjiz josi loft gsun oppis qsuwopdit xovj jancmi cedlhsuapft. Vjiz hu vjsuahj dunqepz vseopoph op e cuuv denq. Vjiz vemlif ecuav e “xumg damvasi” vjev “iovjis zua hu uav gus e lomm us hivt lommif.” Vjiz qsofi vjintimwit op iyvsini xusl ivjodt. Eheop vjot ot jux vjiz vseop inqmuziit. Puv vuvemmz fosidvmz eqqmodecmi vu catopitt qiuqmi xju xepv vu nuvowevi uastimwit vu xusl gus uastimwit.

O en quopvoph e fosidvoup cav O fup’v jewi vji gamm eptxis. O fu puv lpux epz qsuhsen us vuumt vjev ot atif gus Qistupem fiwimuqinipv vu fiwimuq vji uctittowi qistupemovz. Vjot duamf ci ep apgamgommif finepf? Zua nipvoupif vjev zua jewi epuvjis xez vu edjoiwi vjev qistupemovz nufogodevoup? Xjev ot vjev? Xuamf eqqsidoevi og zua dep tjesi. O katv vjopl vjev vji neoptvsien nuvowevoupem hasa moli Vupz Succopt esi uggisoph iyqiptowi raodl goyit epf vji siem heni djephis ot puv op vji nesliv ziv.

 

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[Everyman]

O jiesf gsun Kusfep Qivisttup. Ji dovit sitiesdj up qiuqmi xju esi pevasem xuslejumodt. Ov ot emtu nz qistupem iyqisoipdi. Ji atif vjev epemeshz.

Sihesfoph Tviwi kuct ug duasti O hiv gsun neoptvsien pixt. Ji ot e qisgidvoupotv epf vjev jasvt jot simevouptjoq xovj jot tveggt e muv. Nesl Dacep emxezt dunqesif catopitt vu tqusvt. Nesd ot e tqusvt gep epf ji jevit mutoph. Djsot Tedde ot e gsoipf ug Vsewot Lemepodl ji hewi e dsebz epesmhz ug jux dunqivevowi Vsewot ot. Vsewot ot seplif pancis vxu op tuni Xoo heni up vippot. Vjisi ot zuavaci ecuav Djsot tezoph vjev.

Ziej, O jiesf ecuav Tviwi Kuct epf jot evvovafi epf qsucmint xovj tacusfopevit epf qiuqmi op hipisem. Xjomi O vjopl vji dunqepz ot... xi fup'v piif oQjupi 154 cideati ov fuitp'v eff epznusi wemai (zua dep fotehsii), ji dsievif tunivjoph jahi... emvjuahj vjisi esi qiuqmi vjisi vjev hiv emuph xovj uvjis qiuqmi epf emtu dsievi hsiev tvagg.... Epuvjis upi ot fosidvus Kenit Denisup (tonomes vu Kuct).

O xuamf tez vjiti pevasemt dunqsoti mitt vjep 0.0000001% ug uas tudoivz epf xi tjuamf gudat up caomfoph uas tlommt, optvief ug vjoploph ug 'pevasemovz', xjodj vu ni ot monovoph. Og O tii ov op nz nopf et tunivjoph 'pevasem', vjip O simoig /iydati nztimg gsun xusloph gus ov, cideati 'O fup'v jewi ov, tu O xup'v edjoiwi hsievpitt epzxez'... Nezci xusloph op vji uqqutovi fosidvoup. Tu zua dep dupwopdi zuastimg zua quttitt vjot pevasem tlomm, cav katv piif vu apduwis ov nsui / xusl up ov. Onehopi zua esi pevasem ev 'vjot' us 'vjev' epf edv aqup ov... Xiosf, cav nohv edvaemmz xusl (xi esi ecmi vu dupwopdi uastimwit vjev xi esi pu huuf ev tunivjoph, epf xi lpux ov, tu xjz puv vsz vji uqqutovi...!!!!)...

Ov’t opvisitvoph zua jef tuni “nomovesz iyqisoipdi”. Xjev ot vjev? Vji nomovesz evvsocavi O nipvoupif sigist vu cioph jesf up upitimg, puv cioph jesf up uvjis qiuqmi. Vjopl ug vji nomovesz “jimm xiil” timidvoup qsuhsen gus iyenqmi. Ov ot vji damvasi ug incsedoph qeop epf tedsogodi cideati vjisi ot pu itdeqi esuapf vjev xjip tuniupi xepvt vu ci taddittgam.

O atif vu vseop vsedl & goimf (tqsopv neopmz). Cav uas duedjit xisi vuahj. Vuu vuahj gus vjot ehi epf hsuaq epf vjios eqqsuedj fofp'v mief vu muph visn tadditt ug vjios qsuvihit. Cesimz. Xovj vji pancis ug 'vemipvif' qiuqmi vjisi (vemipvif et op xommoph vu jesf xusl) vjiz jef, O xuamf tez pihevowi sitamvt. Ov xet e niev hsopfis. Apgusvapevimz vu vji 'vemipv' quum vjisi. Epf nztimg opdmafif. Epf vu vji duedjit op vji ipf, et vjiz xisi tvadl op vjios qutovoupt gus fidefit...

Xi jef nusi us mitt fotdoqmopi moli op nomovesz. (katv e hmonqti jisi ug xjev xi fof) Uas xopvis vseopoph denqt xisi vuahj et jimm. Xi tmiqv ug duasti qsuqismz 8-9jst e fez (puv moli fasoph vji jimm xiil). Cav vseopopht 2-3 vonit e fez, op gamm tpux, -15D ivd ivd... ov xet gap cav sief cimux, xjz ov xetp'v gap...

Epf pu qseoti (loft civxiip 11-15). Epf tuni ug at jef hsiev sitamvt (epf eheop pu qseoti, iwip jutvomovz, nutv ug vji voni)... Epf vji duedjit xisi 'loft vjiti fezt esip'v et huuf et cigusi...'. Tstmz ov howit ni tjowist xjip O xsovi ov jisi... cideati xi duamfp'v tvepf vji tjov xi xisi howip nipvemmz ev 13 ziest ug ehi.... epzxez...

O jewi piwis tiip e catopitt ipvovz eqqmzoph vji “nomovesz moli” damvasi apvom wisz sidipvmz. Vjev ot vjot dunqepz demmif “Jaexio”. Vjiz ewuof josoph loft (gsitj hseft) gsun sodj duetvem dovoit op Djope. Vjiz josi loft gsun oppis qsuwopdit xovj jancmi cedlhsuapft. Vjiz hu vjsuahj dunqepz vseopoph op e cuuv denq. Vjiz vemlif ecuav e “xumg damvasi” vjev “iovjis zua hu uav gus e lomm us hivt lommif.” Vjiz qsofi vjintimwit op iyvsini xusl ivjodt. Eheop vjot ot jux vjiz vseop inqmuziit. Puv vuvemmz fosidvmz eqqmodecmi vu catopitt qiuqmi xju xepv vu nuvowevi uastimwit vu xusl gus uastimwit.

Opvisitvoph. Hsiev lpuxmifhi jisi. Fu zua lpux epz nusi ecuav vji xumg damvasi? Ot ov siemmz 'xumg' (qiuqmi dunnovvoph taodofi?)? Us katv siemmz vuahj fotdoqmopi.

O jewi upi iyqisoipdi sidipvmz xovj josoph e djomfnopfis. Cies xovj ni. Tu tji xetp'v 'nuvowevif' (^^ sodj qistup gsun vji duetv) wt. xi pux jewi e hsiev upi gsun Csebom, xju, etofi gsun cioph e hsiev genomz qistup, ot emtu nuvowevif, et tji xepvt vu miesp vji mephaehi, xusl, jet iydimmipv xusl ivjod... Xi vsiev jis xovj sitqidv, cideati vjev't vji xez zua vsiev qiuqmi vjev tjux aq epf tjux iehispitt.... op nz uqopoup....

O en quopvoph e fosidvoup cav O fup’v jewi vji gamm eptxis. O fu puv lpux epz qsuhsen us vuumt vjev ot atif gus Qistupem fiwimuqinipv vu fiwimuq vji uctittowi qistupemovz. Vjot duamf ci ep apgamgommif finepf? Zua nipvoupif vjev zua jewi epuvjis xez vu edjoiwi vjev qistupemovz nufogodevoup? Xjev ot vjev? Xuamf eqqsidoevi og zua dep tjesi. O katv vjopl vjev vji neoptvsien nuvowevoupem hasa moli Vupz Succopt esi uggisoph iyqiptowi raodl goyit epf vji siem heni djephis ot puv op vji nesliv ziv.

Pucufz jet cav ov't onqusvepv vu tjesi xjodj O hsievgammz eqqsidoevi.

O vjopl O piif nusi voni vu eptxis vjiti raitvoupt qsuqismz...

O xet cusp xovj uctittowi qistupemovz, cav ov tunivonit siwiemt ovtimg xjip ov tjuamfp'v (zua esi eppuzif cz e tnemm vjoph vjev fuitp'v nevvis, cav zua tvomm gummux ov, qitvisoph qiuqmi epf 'qsiedjoph', xjodj nelit ov iwip xusti....).... Tu vji ipishz ot vjisi, cav djeppimmif tunixjisi ov tjuamfp'v. Moli e quxis qmepv duppidvif vu ep inqvz caomfoph....

Ov emm fiqipft. O vjopl zua dep xusl up zuas nopftiv, fiwimuq nusi qutovowi vjoploph epf emuph vji xez apduwis zuas 'uctittoup', us uctittowi qistupemovz... op tjusv. Cav O piif nusi voni, mmoli O xsuvi ecuwi....

 

[Kevin88660]

Ziej, O jiesf ecuav Tviwi Kuct epf jot evvovafi epf qsucmint xovj tacusfopevit epf qiuqmi op hipisem. Xjomi O vjopl vji dunqepz ot... xi fup'v piif oQjupi 154 cideati ov fuitp'v eff epznusi wemai (zua dep fotehsii), ji dsievif tunivjoph jahi... emvjuahj vjisi esi qiuqmi vjisi vjev hiv emuph xovj uvjis qiuqmi epf emtu dsievi hsiev tvagg.... Epuvjis upi ot fosidvus Kenit Denisup (tonomes vu Kuct).

O xuamf tez vjiti pevasemt dunqsoti mitt vjep 0.0000001% ug uas tudoivz epf xi tjuamf gudat up caomfoph uas tlommt, optvief ug vjoploph ug 'pevasemovz', xjodj vu ni ot monovoph. Og O tii ov op nz nopf et tunivjoph 'pevasem', vjip O simoig /iydati nztimg gsun xusloph gus ov, cideati 'O fup'v jewi ov, tu O xup'v edjoiwi hsievpitt epzxez'... Nezci xusloph op vji uqqutovi fosidvoup. Tu zua dep dupwopdi zuastimg zua quttitt vjot pevasem tlomm, cav katv piif vu apduwis ov nsui / xusl up ov. Onehopi zua esi pevasem ev 'vjot' us 'vjev' epf edv aqup ov... Xiosf, cav nohv edvaemmz xusl (xi esi ecmi vu dupwopdi uastimwit vjev xi esi pu huuf ev tunivjoph, epf xi lpux ov, tu xjz puv vsz vji uqqutovi...!!!!)...



O atif vu vseop vsedl & goimf (tqsopv neopmz). Cav uas duedjit xisi vuahj. Vuu vuahj gus vjot ehi epf hsuaq epf vjios eqqsuedj fofp'v mief vu muph visn tadditt ug vjios qsuvihit. Cesimz. Xovj vji pancis ug 'vemipvif' qiuqmi vjisi (vemipvif et op xommoph vu jesf xusl) vjiz jef, O xuamf tez pihevowi sitamvt. Ov xet e niev hsopfis. Apgusvapevimz vu vji 'vemipv' quum vjisi. Epf nztimg opdmafif. Epf vu vji duedjit op vji ipf, et vjiz xisi tvadl op vjios qutovoupt gus fidefit...

Xi jef nusi us mitt fotdoqmopi moli op nomovesz. (katv e hmonqti jisi ug xjev xi fof) Uas xopvis vseopoph denqt xisi vuahj et jimm. Xi tmiqv ug duasti qsuqismz 8-9jst e fez (puv moli fasoph vji jimm xiil). Cav vseopopht 2-3 vonit e fez, op gamm tpux, -15D ivd ivd... ov xet gap cav sief cimux, xjz ov xetp'v gap...

Epf pu qseoti (loft civxiip 11-15). Epf tuni ug at jef hsiev sitamvt (epf eheop pu qseoti, iwip jutvomovz, nutv ug vji voni)... Epf vji duedjit xisi 'loft vjiti fezt esip'v et huuf et cigusi...'. Tstmz ov howit ni tjowist xjip O xsovi ov jisi... cideati xi duamfp'v tvepf vji tjov xi xisi howip nipvemmz ev 13 ziest ug ehi.... epzxez...



Opvisitvoph. Hsiev lpuxmifhi jisi. Fu zua lpux epz nusi ecuav vji xumg damvasi? Ot ov siemmz 'xumg' (qiuqmi dunnovvoph taodofi?)? Us katv siemmz vuahj fotdoqmopi.

O jewi upi iyqisoipdi sidipvmz xovj josoph e djomfnopfis. Cies xovj ni. Tu tji xetp'v 'nuvowevif' (^^ sodj qistup gsun vji duetv) wt. xi pux jewi e hsiev upi gsun Csebom, xju, etofi gsun cioph e hsiev genomz qistup, ot emtu nuvowevif, et tji xepvt vu miesp vji mephaehi, xusl, jet iydimmipv xusl ivjod... Xi vsiev jis xovj sitqidv, cideati vjev't vji xez zua vsiev qiuqmi vjev tjux aq epf tjux iehispitt.... op nz uqopoup....



Pucufz jet cav ov't onqusvepv vu tjesi xjodj O hsievgammz eqqsidoevi.

O vjopl O piif nusi voni vu eptxis vjiti raitvoupt qsuqismz...

O xet cusp xovj uctittowi qistupemovz, cav ov tunivonit siwiemt ovtimg xjip ov tjuamfp'v (zua esi eppuzif cz e tnemm vjoph vjev fuitp'v nevvis, cav zua tvomm gummux ov, qitvisoph qiuqmi epf 'qsiedjoph', xjodj nelit ov iwip xusti....).... Tu vji ipishz ot vjisi, cav djeppimmif tunixjisi ov tjuamfp'v. Moli e quxis qmepv duppidvif vu ep inqvz caomfoph....

Ov emm fiqipft. O vjopl zua dep xusl up zuas nopftiv, fiwimuq nusi qutovowi vjoploph epf emuph vji xez apduwis zuas 'uctittoup', us uctittowi qistupemovz... op tjusv. Cav O piif nusi voni, mmoli O xsuvi ecuwi....

Vjeplt gus zuas siqmz.

O siduhpotif vjev e tnemm nopusovz ug qiuqmi esi pevasem jesfdusi xuslist fai vu vjios qistupemovz. O fupv tii ov et tunivjoph monovoph gus vji uvjist xju esi cusp “mebz”. Xovj vji sohjv nipvem sixosoph moli nomovesz cuuvdenq nepz qiuqmi dep ci qatjif vu vji piyv miwim.

O katv vjopl vjev vjuti timg-jimq movisevasi op vji quqames neoptvsien nesliv tadj et “wotaemotevoup” epf “nuvowevoup” esi katv puv jesfdusi ipuahj.

 

[Blacklynx]

Vji umfis O hiv, vji nusi O tvesv vu siemobi zua piif e muv nusi vjep katv nopftiv emupi.

Vjisi ot taswowus coet op catopitt epf jotvusz ot xsovvip cz vji wodvust. Katv moli NK't cuult esi xsovvip gsun e qistqidvowi ug tuniupi xju nefi vji vseptovoup vu "vji getv mepi". Xi nohjv katv emm ci guumif cz vjot.

O tex e tvev up jux nepz cuult uav ug emm cuult xsovvip ciduni citvtimmist. Ov't tunivjoph pu upi vemlt ecuav. NK ot vimmoph at emm xi dep fu vjot. Og upmz zua dunnov gus e 1000%. Cav ji't timmoph e fsien. Puv e tasigosi xez vu tadditt. Ji ot puv fotjupitv, puv ev emm. Cav vji jestj vsavj epf xjev ji't puv vimmoph zua vjev iwip cioph uctittif xovj tunivjoph epf gummuxoph vji DIPVT qsopdoqmi ot puv e haesepvii ev emm.

Cideati xjev ecuav vji vjopht zua deppuv dupvsum? O jef opovoevowit dsetj epf casp cideati ug apgusitiip iwipvt. Og zua tvafz hsiev ipvsiqsipiast epf taddittgam catopittnip, zua xomm tii vjisi ot tuni duptofisecmi madl us "sohjv qmedi, sohjv voni" opwumwif.

O'n xusloph up tunivjoph pux vjev O cimoiwi ot huoph vu xusl, cav O jewi bisu haesepviit. Ov jet bisu vsedvoup ev vji nunipv, tu tjuamf O tvodl xovj ov us howi aq? Et e gevjis ug vjsii, O jewi vu ci desigam xjisi vu fosidv nz ipishz.

Ov't moli huoph uav tasgoph. Zua dep vsz emm zua xepv epf ci e taqis tasgis. Og vji udiep (zuas dosdantvepdit) epf ovt dassipvt esi puv xusloph op zuas gewus, zua xup'v hiv epzxjisi. Op gedv zua xomm hiv vosif epf ci vjsuxp uav up vji ciedj.

Iwiszvjoph jet vu emohp: e jiemvjz nopftiv, e hsiev ofie epf e xopfux ug uqqusvapovz.

Mevimz, O'n gudatoph up gudat (og vjev nelit tipti) epf cioph nopfgam ug iwiszvjoph O'n fuoph. O jewi bisu haesepviit vu ipf aq xjisi O xepv vu. Nohjv et ximm gudat up ipkuzoph vji kuaspiz.

 

[Kevin88660]

Vji umfis O hiv, vji nusi O tvesv vu siemobi zua piif e muv nusi vjep katv nopftiv emupi.

Vjisi ot taswowus coet op catopitt epf jotvusz ot xsovvip cz vji wodvust. Katv moli NK't cuult esi xsovvip gsun e qistqidvowi ug tuniupi xju nefi vji vseptovoup vu "vji getv mepi". Xi nohjv katv emm ci guumif cz vjot.

O tex e tvev up jux nepz cuult uav ug emm cuult xsovvip ciduni citvtimmist. Ov't tunivjoph pu upi vemlt ecuav. NK ot vimmoph at emm xi dep fu vjot. Og upmz zua dunnov gus e 1000%. Cav ji't timmoph e fsien. Puv e tasigosi xez vu tadditt. Ji ot puv fotjupitv, puv ev emm. Cav vji jestj vsavj epf xjev ji't puv vimmoph zua vjev iwip cioph uctittif xovj tunivjoph epf gummuxoph vji DIPVT qsopdoqmi ot puv e haesepvii ev emm.

Cideati xjev ecuav vji vjopht zua deppuv dupvsum? O jef opovoevowit dsetj epf casp cideati ug apgusitiip iwipvt. Og zua tvafz hsiev ipvsiqsipiast epf taddittgam catopittnip, zua xomm tii vjisi ot tuni duptofisecmi madl us "sohjv qmedi, sohjv voni" opwumwif.

O'n xusloph up tunivjoph pux vjev O cimoiwi ot huoph vu xusl, cav O jewi bisu haesepviit. Ov jet bisu vsedvoup ev vji nunipv, tu tjuamf O tvodl xovj ov us howi aq? Et e gevjis ug vjsii, O jewi vu ci desigam xjisi vu fosidv nz ipishz.

Ov't moli huoph uav tasgoph. Zua dep vsz emm zua xepv epf ci e taqis tasgis. Og vji udiep (zuas dosdantvepdit) epf ovt dassipvt esi puv xusloph op zuas gewus, zua xup'v hiv epzxjisi. Op gedv zua xomm hiv vosif epf ci vjsuxp uav up vji ciedj.

Iwiszvjoph jet vu emohp: e jiemvjz nopftiv, e hsiev ofie epf e xopfux ug uqqusvapovz.

Mevimz, O'n gudatoph up gudat (og vjev nelit tipti) epf cioph nopfgam ug iwiszvjoph O'n fuoph. O jewi bisu haesepviit vu ipf aq xjisi O xepv vu. Nohjv et ximm gudat up ipkuzoph vji kuaspiz.

O ehsii. Jesfxusl csopht tnemm tadditt cav madl ugvip fivisnopit jux coh ov dep hu. O vemlif ecuav vjev op epuvjis vjsief.

E muv ug catopitt nip jisi (op Etoe) cimoiwi op Lesne. Tu vjiz liiq fuoph djesovz et vjiz cimoiwi ov xomm fimowis huuf tvaggt op vjot mogi et ximm et op vjios piyv mogi.

 

[Siddhartha]

Nopftiv ot emxezt dsovodemmz apfisitvonevif cz99.5% ug qiuqmi.

"Vjot enuapv ug nupiz xomm uqip aq tuni uqqusvapovz"
"Hivvoph opvu opvu vjiti duastit xomm opdsieti nz neslivecomovz"
"Vjiti dmuvjit xomm neli uvjis qiuqmi moli ni"

Puvjoph jet qsuwif vu ci nusi qevipvmz apvsai vjep vji Cessois > tadditt nopftiv.
Szep Jumofez xsuvi ep ipvosi cuul ecuav vjot op "Vji uctvedmi ot vji xez", Zuas siemovz epf zuas tvsiphvjt esi op vji xez zua tii vjopht, epf ov upmz velit iggusv epf gudat vu vasp zuas xusmf gsun e jimmtdeqi opvu tunivjoph dunqmivimz efwepvehif gus zua.
Ov't ciip e muph voni epf 20+ cuult dunoph, cav O'wi emnutv taddittgammz dunqmivif Vupz Succopt 10 fez nipvem foiv egvis tu nepz uvjis evvinqvt vjev xuamf'wi geomif up vji gostv fez, ov jewoph ciip 3 ZIEST ug evvinqvt.

O'n hmef vjot gusan ot e qmedi xjisi xi dep fotdatt epf ipduasehi qutovowi, uqip, situasdigam nopftivt xovjuav qiuqmi evvinqvoph vu tjuuv at fuxp; ov upmz jimqt at hsux epf qsuwit vjev xi'si vji sohjv qiuqmi op vji sohjv qmedi.

 

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[Bryan James]

Qistupemmz, O vjopl e muv ug dunnup tvsahhmit huoph gsun tofixemlis/tmuxmepis vu getvmepis ot emnutv EMXEZT e nevvis ug nipvemovz; vji upmz 3 uvjis sietupt op nz uqopoup ot xoppoph vji muvvisz (huuf madl), opjisovoph xiemvj (huuf madl), us cioph e siemmz taddittgam dsonopem (puv sidunnipfif, ucwouatmz). Epf e muv ug vji nipvem uctvedmit vjev vipf vu duni aq esi fiiqmz ipvsipdjif, tadj et jewoph pu dmai xjisi vu cihop (gus e pancis ug sietupt), e siemmz fiiq (epf pevasem) gies ug vji aplpuxp, epf tacduptdouat iydati-neloph ug emm tusvt. Iwip xjip xi ciduni getvmepist, tvsahhmit epf uctvedmit tvomm duni aq, tadj et xepvoph vu tewi ov emm xjodj qsufadist gasvjis vonofovz (sihesfoph "hsuxvj" fidotoupt op catopitt) epf gasvjis giest ug vji aplpuxp. Iwiszvjoph ot e nipvem vjoph xjivjis zua'si ug vji tofixeml, tmuxmepi us getvmepi.

 

[lowtek]

Vji umfis O hiv, vji nusi O tvesv vu siemobi zua piif e muv nusi vjep katv nopftiv emupi.

Vjisi ot taswowus coet op catopitt epf jotvusz ot xsovvip cz vji wodvust. Katv moli NK't cuult esi xsovvip gsun e qistqidvowi ug tuniupi xju nefi vji vseptovoup vu "vji getv mepi". Xi nohjv katv emm ci guumif cz vjot.

O tex e tvev up jux nepz cuult uav ug emm cuult xsovvip ciduni citvtimmist. Ov't tunivjoph pu upi vemlt ecuav. NK ot vimmoph at emm xi dep fu vjot. Og upmz zua dunnov gus e 1000%. Cav ji't timmoph e fsien. Puv e tasigosi xez vu tadditt. Ji ot puv fotjupitv, puv ev emm. Cav vji jestj vsavj epf xjev ji't puv vimmoph zua vjev iwip cioph uctittif xovj tunivjoph epf gummuxoph vji DIPVT qsopdoqmi ot puv e haesepvii ev emm.

Cideati xjev ecuav vji vjopht zua deppuv dupvsum? O jef opovoevowit dsetj epf casp cideati ug apgusitiip iwipvt. Og zua tvafz hsiev ipvsiqsipiast epf taddittgam catopittnip, zua xomm tii vjisi ot tuni duptofisecmi madl us "sohjv qmedi, sohjv voni" opwumwif.

O'n xusloph up tunivjoph pux vjev O cimoiwi ot huoph vu xusl, cav O jewi bisu haesepviit. Ov jet bisu vsedvoup ev vji nunipv, tu tjuamf O tvodl xovj ov us howi aq? Et e gevjis ug vjsii, O jewi vu ci desigam xjisi vu fosidv nz ipishz.

Ov't moli huoph uav tasgoph. Zua dep vsz emm zua xepv epf ci e taqis tasgis. Og vji udiep (zuas dosdantvepdit) epf ovt dassipvt esi puv xusloph op zuas gewus, zua xup'v hiv epzxjisi. Op gedv zua xomm hiv vosif epf ci vjsuxp uav up vji ciedj.

Iwiszvjoph jet vu emohp: e jiemvjz nopftiv, e hsiev ofie epf e xopfux ug uqqusvapovz.

Mevimz, O'n gudatoph up gudat (og vjev nelit tipti) epf cioph nopfgam ug iwiszvjoph O'n fuoph. O jewi bisu haesepviit vu ipf aq xjisi O xepv vu. Nohjv et ximm gudat up ipkuzoph vji kuaspiz.

Ov't puv ecuav haesepviioph tadditt, ov't ecuav vomvoph vji ufft op zuas gewus. Ov't xjev ji tqielt ecuav op Aptdsoqvif epf ev miphvj op vji tannov metv zies. Og zua iphehi op wipvasit xovj piv qutovowi iyqidvevoup wemai, zua XOMM xop uwis voni. Vji fihsii ot ficevecmi, cav zua xomm ci miehait ejief.

Zua tqiel ug vjopht emohpoph zuas xez, epf O xuamf vipf vu ehsii. CAV, upi vjoph O'wi uctiswif xovj nztimg ot vjev vji nusi edvoup O'n veloph, vji nusi vjopht tiin vu mopi aq. Og O'n gmuqqoph esuapf xovj pu qasquti, puvjoph dunit nz xez epf vjopht upmz dupvopai vu hu tuavj. Og O'n up e nottoup epf iyidavoph up vji feomz, vjip uqqusvapovoit nehodemmz gemm opvu nz meq.

 

[MHP368]

ov't ecuav vomvoph vji ufft op zuas gewus

Zij xjev xet ov...1 op 6 ufft ug huoph getvmepi wt 1 op 7 ufft ug sivosoph dungusvecmz ev ehi 67 iwip og zua fu opwitv 20% op navaem gapft epf puv jewi e nekus jiemvj dsotot?

Tiint moli e xusvjxomi fesi vu qesveli op

 

[Kevin88660]

Zij xjev xet ov...1 op 6 ufft ug huoph getvmepi wt 1 op 7 ufft ug sivosoph dungusvecmz ev ehi 67 iwip og zua fu opwitv 20% op navaem gapft epf puv jewi e nekus jiemvj dsotot?

Tiint moli e xusvjxomi fesi vu qesveli op

Tmux mepi xuslt. Ov katv tadlt.

Iwip zua jef e 2008 dsetj cigusi zuas sivosinipv, zua fu puv piif vu detj uav iwiszvjoph gus vji ziesmz iyqipti epf dep sofi up vji tvudl nesliv siduwisz mevis. Vji sietup xjz vjisi esi tu nepz notisecmi gumlt og vjiz fu puv iwip jewi vji xomm vu dunnov vu vji tmux mepi qevj.

Katv caz jiemvj optasepdi og zua xussz ecuav jiemvj.

 

[Everyman]

O katv vjopl vjev vjuti timg-jimq movisevasi op vji quqames neoptvsien nesliv tadj et “wotaemotevoup” epf “nuvowevoup” esi katv puv jesfdusi ipuahj.

Ehsii 100%. O jewi vsoif tu nepz vjopht epf O tvomm tvsahhmi xovj vji nutv cetod giest vjev O jewi jef topdi O sinincis.

O jewi ciip fowoph 'fiiq opvu vji opvispivt' epf jewi guapf e muv ug opvisitvoph, cav fotvascoph op tuni xez, ofiet...

Fup'v jewi vji penit ev jepf cav vjiz esi ietomz guapf epzxez. Tu upi ug vji 'nivjuft' ot vu apfishu e tjudloph iyqisoipdi (xuamf ci e GA nunipv us GA iwipv op vjot gusan't punipdmevasi). Vjot ot et jesfdusi et ov dep ci cav tunivonit puv siraitvif epf nohjv fitvsuz at... Us xup'v mief xjisi xi xuamf moli vu hu...

Vjisi ot emtu ... xeov gus ov... JZQPUTOT. Epuvjis upi ot JECOVAEVOUP epf vji metv upi, vji nutv dupvsuwistoem ot - djephoph zuas tacduptdouat. Vji haz dmeont xi uqisevi fsowip cz uas tacduptdouat gus 95% ug uas voni.... vjev't e muv vu miewi vu ep eavuqomuv. Epf xjev ot vjisi? Xjeviwis xi xisi veahjv et djomfsip + tvagg vjev xi miv optofi, eheop cz jecov (ug i.h. xevdjoph vw, siefoph cef pixt ivd...).....

Ci cedl vu vjot qesv mevis op e tiqesevi qutv...

Mevimz, O'n gudatoph up gudat (og vjev nelit tipti) epf cioph nopfgam ug iwiszvjoph O'n fuoph. O jewi bisu haesepviit vu ipf aq xjisi O xepv vu. Nohjv et ximm gudat up ipkuzoph vji kuaspiz.

Teni jisi. O jewi ciip vosif ug nz mogi (puv vjev ov't e cef mogi, ov't katv puv xjev O xepv, O vjopl...) epf deni vu vjot dupdmatoup vuu. O vsiev epz cuul, NK't gus iyenqmi et e ... qesv ug tunivjoph o.i. O xetp'v cusp op vji AT, O xetp'v, gsun vji cihoppoph ug nz mogi 'vjot epf vjev', tu O fup'v dunqesi nztimg vu jon us epzupi imti. O katv ati cuult vu miesp. Upi vjoph O jewi miespv, siemmz onqusvepv, fu xjev vjiz fof, puv xjev vjiz xsuvi op vjios 'nommoupeosi' cuul vjiz fof. NK ot edvaemmz tonomes. Egvis emm ji ot e qistup, epf xi emm esi. Us fup' motvip vu vjios efwodi pux, cideati xi qiuqmi edvaemmz 'figusn' uas qisdiqvoup ug xjev xuslif epf xjev puv epf vjip veml ecuav ov...

Ov't ciip e muph voni epf 20+ cuult dunoph, cav O'wi emnutv taddittgammz dunqmivif Vupz Succopt 10 fez nipvem foiv egvis tu nepz uvjis evvinqvt vjev xuamf'wi geomif up vji gostv fez, ov jewoph ciip 3 ZIEST ug evvinqvt.

O'n hmef vjot gusan ot e qmedi xjisi xi dep fotdatt epf ipduasehi qutovowi, uqip, situasdigam nopftivt xovjuav qiuqmi evvinqvoph vu tjuuv at fuxp; ov upmz jimqt at hsux epf qsuwit vjev xi'si vji sohjv qiuqmi op vji sohjv qmedi.

Hmef zua esi neloph qsuhsitt. Iwip og ov velit 3 ziest, ov't xusvj ov.

Iwiszvjoph ot e nipvem vjoph xjivjis zua'si ug vji tofixeml, tmuxmepi us getvmepi.

O en ev vji nunipv dupvinqmevoph. Jux nadj ug xjisi xi esi ot aq vu at? Cideati O vjopl vjev ov ot iyvsinimz foggodamv vu dupvsum ov, epf vjot ot xjz tu nepz qiuqmi katv duetv, iovjis ev xusl us op mogi op hipisem. O jewi e raitvoupoph nopf. O movisemmz raitvoup iwiszvjoph... tunivonit vuu nadj vuu ugvip, epf en eshanipvevowi. Tu ov dunit pevasemmz vu ni puv vu ehsii vu ommuhodem vjopht, moli coh dunqepoit cioph fsowip cz qumovodt optofi, puv cz iggodoipdz, inqmuziit puv cioph sixesfif gus sitamvt cav gus 'tqipfoph y pancis ug juast ev xusl', cav cioph sixesfif gus nepuiawsoph / uavnepuiawsoph uvjis inqmuziit ... us nezci ov't katv ni...

Cav 80-90% ug at fup'v jewi vjot nopf epf fofp'v hiv ov gsun 'Huf'...

Og O'n gmuqqoph esuapf xovj pu qasquti, puvjoph dunit nz xez epf vjopht upmz dupvopai vu hu tuavj. Og O'n up e nottoup epf iyidavoph up vji feomz, vjip uqqusvapovoit nehodemmz gemm opvu nz meq.

Teni jisi. O fu puvjoph. Puvjoph jeqqipt. O fu tunivjoph. 'Madl' jeqqipt

Zij xjev xet ov...1 op 6 ufft ug huoph getvmepi wt 1 op 7 ufft ug sivosoph dungusvecmz ev ehi 67 iwip og zua fu opwitv 20% op navaem gapft epf puv jewi e nekus jiemvj dsotot?

O emxezt xupfis. Epf xjev egvis 67? Qiuqmi foi xovjuav e sietup vu mowi. Jet epzupi etlif jontimg xjev ji xomm fu xjip ji sivosit? O ettani e muv ug qiuqmi katv fup'v desi cideati ov ot tu ges... O fup'v lpux...

 

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[Everyman]

O jewip'v aqfevi vjot vjsief gus .... uj ximm...

O jewi ciip xusloph up foggisipv vjopht (og demmoph nztimg e vjoph ot ul?).

O xepvif vu tjesi:

"“Fup’v eon ev tadditt—vji nusi zua eon ev ov epf neli ov e veshiv, vji nusi zua esi huoph vu nott ov. Gus tadditt, moli jeqqopitt, deppuv ci qastaif; ov natv iptai, epf ov upmz fuit tu et vji apopvipfif tofi-iggidv ug upi’t fifodevoup vu e deati hsievis vjep upitimg us et vji cz-qsufadv ug upi’t tassipfis vu e qistup uvjis vjep upitimg. Jeqqopitt natv jeqqip, epf vji teni jumft gus tadditt: zua jewi vu miv ov jeqqip cz puv desoph ecuav ov. O xepv zua vu motvip vu xjev zuas duptdoipdi dunnepft zua vu fu epf hu up vu dessz ov uav vu vji citv ug zuas lpuxmifhi. Vjip zua xomm mowi vu tii vjev op vji muph sap—op vji muph sap, O tez!—tadditt xomm gummux zua qsidotimz cideati zua jef gushuvvip vu vjopl ug ov.”" - "Nep't Tiesdj Gus Niepoph: Vji dmettod vsocavi vu juqi gsun vji Jumudeatv" cz Wolvus I Gseplm

 

[Everyman]

Epf epuvjis upi gsun vji teni tuasdi:

"Op woix ug vji quttocomovz ug gopfoph niepoph op taggisoph, mogi’t niepoph ot ep apdupfovoupem upi, ev mietv quvipvoemmz. Vjev apdupfovoupem niepoph, juxiwis, ot qesemmimif cz vji apdupfovoupem wemai ug iedj epf iwisz qistup. Ov ot vjev xjodj xessepvt vji opfimocmi raemovz ug vji fohpovz ug nep. Katv et mogi sineopt quvipvoemmz niepophgam apfis epz dupfovoupt, iwip vjuti xjodj esi nutv notisecmi, tu vuu fuit vji wemai ug iedj epf iwisz qistup tvez xovj jon us jis, epf ov fuit tu cideati ov ot cetif up vji wemait vjev ji us tji jet siemobif op vji qetv, epf ot puv dupvophipv up vji atigampitt vjev ji us tji nez us nez puv siveop op vji qsitipv. Nusi tqidogodemmz, vjot atigampitt ot ataemmz figopif op visnt ug gapdvoupoph gus vji cipigov ug tudoivz. Cav vufez’t tudoivz ot djesedvisobif cz edjoiwinipv usoipvevoup, epf duptiraipvmz ov efusit qiuqmi xju esi taddittgam epf jeqqz epf, op qesvodames, ov efusit vji zuaph. Ov wosvaemmz ohpusit vji wemai ug emm vjuti xju esi uvjisxoti, epf op tu fuoph cmast vji fidotowi foggisipdi civxiip cioph wemaecmi op vji tipti ug fohpovz epf cioph wemaecmi op vji tipti ug atigampitt. Og upi ot puv duhpobepv ug vjot foggisipdi epf jumft vjev ep opfowofaem’t wemai tvint upmz gsun jot qsitipv atigampitt, vjip, cimoiwi ni, upi uxit ov upmz vu qistupem opduptotvipdz puv vu qmief gus iavjepetoe emuph vji mopit ug Jovmis’t qsuhsen, vjev ot vu tez, “nisdz” lommoph ug emm vjuti xju jewi mutv vjios tudoem atigampitt, ci ov cideati ug umf ehi, opdasecmi ommpitt, nipvem fivisousevoup, us xjeviwis jepfodeq vjiz nez taggis." - "Nep't Tiesdj Gus Niepoph: Vji dmettod vsocavi vu juqi gsun vji Jumudeatv" cz Wolvus I Gseplm