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Why does MJ tell the truth? Lying would make him more money.

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Hello Mr. DeMarco, sorry for interrupting. I just have a question, and I would love you to answer it. Why do you tell us the real TRUTH about wealth? Why cant you just lie to us so you can earn more money? Why did you choose to help us instead? It is up to you if you want to answer. Thanks for reading.

Because I remember struggling as a 20 year old and being taken advantage of by every "guru" who claimed to be rich and financially successful. If you're so wealthy, then why the $1,999 seminar and the $5,999 coaching program? Can't I just buy your book for ten bucks, and if I get nothing out of it, I won't need to file bankruptcy a month later?

That said, I was looking at a podcast question list for one of my upcoming interviews, and one of the questions was, "Where do you see yourself in 5 years?" It was a question I couldn't answer because I was already there at my 5 and 10 year vision.

I live exactly how I want to live, where I want, how I want, etc.

There is no future year vision because it is already my reality. The only thing I would change are things I can't directly control -- it would be nice if more people would read my work and learn how to escape this shitty 5-for-2, wait for fifty-years existence everyone has been sold into. But then again, most people love their slavery in exchange for some mindnumbing game on their smartphone and a dumb Sunday football game that has ZERO impact on their life, other than to distract them from their mundane existence.
 

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why are you not a billionaire.

Clearly you didn't understand my response.

This is why I usually ignore (or delete) these types of questions.

I already regret answering.

And BTW I am a billionaire and have been for awhile, assuming you measure by US pennies, the smallest nomimal measurement of currency.

What do you think about bitcoin?

After taking time out of my day to answer your first question, I think I'll pass on your next round of questions.

MJ told you he has the life he always dreamed of. Use your brain. What difference would a few extra zeros on his bank balance mean if he already has everything he wants?

Thank you my friend.

It truly is hard for people to understand. In a conversation I recently had, I mentioned that I could win several million dollars in the lottery and nothing in my life would change.
 
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Mr. Demarco

How did you create this website? Did you use visual studio code to do it? And what programming language did you use as well?

This thread is a classic tale of “one too many”.

When you ask a favor/question of someone it’s best to know when to bow out - by going back for seconds and then thirds you are just putting yourself in the “value taker” box.

Good approach:
- Ask question
- Get response
- Thank them and if it’s actionable advice put it into action
- Come back later and show them it helped you get results and thank them again
- And/or do them something that improves their life or business in some way to over return the favor

The wrong way:
- ask one question
- get response
- ask another
- get response (maybe)
- ask another
- probably have burned the connection by now
- try asking even more questions
- now you’re on the ignore list

I’d really work on this - if you are doing it on these forums you are probably doing it with lots of other great possible connections too.
 

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And my second question. If you have the REAL truth about wealth, why are you not a billionaire. Thank you for taking your time, sir.
MJ is worth a lot of money. But there is a work life balance that some people want.
 
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Mr. DeMarco, Thank you for answering my question! I thought you wouldnt! Btw

I have some more questions if you dont mind. What do you think about bitcoin? As I see with my own eyes, only the "big boys" earn big money on it and keep it, like Elon Musk. In fact, he earned more in bitcoin then he did in his whole Tesla company. Is bitcoin fastlane?

And my second question. If you have the REAL truth about wealth, why are you not a billionaire. Thank you for taking your time, sir.
I know the questions aren’t directed at me but your reply was so disrespectful I feel compelled to say something.

In his reply to your op (that’s right, the best selling author and multimillionnaire’s personal reply to you), MJ told you he has the life he always dreamed of. Use your brain. What difference would a few extra zeros on his bank balance mean if he already has everything he wants?

regarding Bitcoin… in all three of his books, MJ teaches wealth through business systems and money systems. Bitcoin is neither, unless you are building a Bitcoin related business, which I know isn’t what you meant. MJs books do not teach how to get rich playing poker, trading forex, buying Bitcoin or becoming a professional athlete.
And what difference does it make? If MJ says buy Bitcoin are you going to buy it?
 

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They always tell me that he is a guru,

Next time someone claims I'm "just another guru", ask them to send you a link to my advanced training courses: You know, the $4,999 coaching program, or the $10,000 weekend seminar, or my one-on-one mentorship program which I sell for the low low price of $14,999.

Insist that they search for those big ticket upsells and when they can't find them, ask them why they *think* they couldn't find them.
 

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Why get upset? I don’t understand, he has the right to ask a question, you guys have the right to respond and not respond. I doubt his intentions are to “insult” rather to be real. Yea I get he used the words “wealth” with “billionare“ which gives off an immature vibe, but I don’t think letting him know is even productive for everyone’s sake lol.

I believe the first question was asked as such as to put you in a positive light@MJ DeMarco and your absolutely helpful personality. I felt he paid his respects and then thanked you for the response, and then of course felt comfortable to ask a more colorful question let’s say haha. All in good spirits is what I wish to convey.
Because he followed it up with a dumb question and then a condescending question.

It’s like asking Michael Jordan a question about his career which he graciously answers and then following it up with a question like, can you teach me how to shoot 3 pt jumpers? And then saying, if you’re so good at shooting 3 pointers why don’t you have more championships?
 

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Come back later and show them it helped you get results
This! This is so rare that when it happens they’ll be bowled over.
 

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this thread is why i love this community .... everyone trying to help those back down the road / mountain ..... sometimes with love, sometimes with tough love, sometimes with thought ...... good stuff

@David Borodin convince yourself and focus there. Become the example to others. No need to explain yourself to anyone. Show them by results. You got this!
 
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Mr. DeMarco, Thank you for answering my question! I thought you wouldnt! Btw

I have some more questions if you dont mind. What do you think about bitcoin? As I see with my own eyes, only the "big boys" earn big money on it and keep it, like Elon Musk. In fact, he earned more in bitcoin then he did in his whole Tesla company. Is bitcoin fastlane?

And my second question. If you have the REAL truth about wealth, why are you not a billionaire. Thank you for taking your time, sir.
Wow, what an insulting response. I hope that you are 14 year old and have no idea what you are asking.
 

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Mr. Demarco

How did you create this website? Did you use visual studio code to do it? And what programming language did you use as well?

The quickest way to have any high-value person ignore you is to ask them stuff you can find in less than a minute on Google...



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This thread is a classic tale of “one too many”.

When you ask a favor/question of someone it’s best it know when to bow out - by going back for seconds and then thirds you are just putting yourself in the “value taker” box.

Good approach:
- Ask question
- Get response
- Thanks then and if it’s actionable advice put it into action
- Come back later and show then it helped you get results and thank them again
- And/or do them something that improves their life or business in some way to over return the favor

The wrong way:
- ask one question
- get response
- ask another
- get response (maybe)
- ask another
- probably have burned the connection by now
- try asking even more questions
- now youre on the ignore list

Id really work on this - if you are doing it on these forums you are probably doing it with lots of other great possible connections too.
You know what, this is very helpful. Thank you, sir!
I will use this instead of my old way of asking.
I just have a lots of questions, I really want to learn more.
 

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As another method to approach people that you want advice from, I once got a message from some young guy on Linkedin who wrote he wanted to learn from me and be under my guidance (because of some big accomplishment of mine he was aware of), and asked to give him an assignment.

I replied I needed to find more people to interview for a particular project, just a random thing I needed at that moment. He disappeared... then in a month reappeared and reported that he found thirty people who were willing to speak to me, and whether that was enough.

As you may imagine, I got speechless and treated him seriously and gave him whatever advice I could ever since. Especially since he never asked for more than one thing per month and from my perspective, I got more out of knowing him than I had put in.
 
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I think telling the truth made him even more unique which has probably made him more money than if he was like Dan Lok and people of that ilk.
 

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Everytime people see his book. They always tell me that he is a guru, just like the other business books. I try to convince. But then they ask me "Then why isnt he a billionaire?"

Then I have nothing to say. Thats why I asked him
If your OP had included this context, most people wouldn't have got offended by your question and thought you were an insensitive idiot.
Hello people.

I was wondering if you have any experience with business. I really want to learn. For example:

How do you advertise a product?
Should you borrow money to start a company?
But then you start this thread...
 
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Everytime people see his book. They always tell me that he is a guru, just like the other business books. I try to convince. But then they ask me "Then why isnt he a billionaire?"

Then I have nothing to say. Thats why I asked him.
Time is priceless and I wouldn't swap my life for a billion pounds (I'm British). One day you might realise that beyond a certain point more money is just a number. Having more of something that you have enough of doesn't improve your life; it won't buy you more time or pleasure (although wealthy people do live longer). Money brings you choices and freedom unless you become a slave to it. A billionaire who spends all their time trying to earn more money is still a slave to money and hasn't escaped the rat race.
 
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This thread is a classic tale of “one too many”.

When you ask a favor/question of someone it’s best it know when to bow out - by going back for seconds and then thirds you are just putting yourself in the “value taker” box.

Good approach:
- Ask question
- Get response
- Thanks then and if it’s actionable advice put it into action
- Come back later and show then it helped you get results and thank them again
- And/or do them something that improves their life or business in some way to over return the favor

The wrong way:
- ask one question
- get response
- ask another
- get response (maybe)
- ask another
- probably have burned the connection by now
- try asking even more questions
- now youre on the ignore list

Id really work on this - if you are doing it on these forums you are probably doing it with lots of other great possible connections too.
This is hard to learn and I'm guessing the OP is young (?).

I've been in that camp in the past and it's good to be a curious listener - much better than a talker and blabberer who doesn't know anything on their subject - but it is the next level to show some restraint with all the questions.

To OP, I totally get it. @Fox is right though. Maybe this is will be a good learning experience!

(Just saw your reply and like I said, totally get it! It's good that you are so eager to learn and ask questions - it is a lot better than being an inexperienced know-it-all. But now you know!)
 
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Easy to pile on the (likely) young and inexperienced, but we've all been there.

Recall when I was first starting out in my niche for my business, I must have looked like a complete fool asking the most redundant questions to busy and important people who took time out of their day to talk to me. After enough ignoring, I realized that like Fox said, I needed to apply the work and come back with a tangible problem they could assist with or offer insight on. It's made all the difference in the world when it comes to building a contact list and especially when you are starting from absolutely nothing in an industry you know little about (my situation).
 

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You know what, this is very helpful. Thank you, sir!
I will use this instead of my old way of asking.
I just have a lots of questions, I really want to learn more.

Understandable and as a beginner it can seem that “just a few more questions” answered is all you need to get winning but it really isn’t.

At EVERY stage there will be questions so to succeed you need to develop the skills now of being a self starter. A question here or there is fine but when people see that your first move is to just ask another questions - that’s different.

No successful person is going to entertain that and it quickly spoils connections/relationships. You can get feedback from people but try show you are always going to be doing the best you can on your side first before you just come to them.

Anyway we have all been there - hopefully a good lesson learned. The forums are amazingly powerful but it’s also not a question answering machine either - take what’s here already and show you are taking that action. Or just go see if you can come up with an answer yourself and then ask for feedback here after doing some work.
 

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Hello Mr. DeMarco, sorry for interrupting. I just have a question, and I would love you to answer it. Why do you tell us the real TRUTH about wealth? Why cant you just lie to us so you can earn more money? Why did you choose to help us instead? It is up to you if you want to answer. Thanks for reading.

I've said this before in other threads, but some people actually just want to see you to succeed.
 

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Hey, don't worry about it. Nonverbal communication has its shortcomings and it looks like your questions got misinterpreted.
Everytime people see his book. They always tell me that he is a guru, just like the other business books. I try to convince. But then they ask me "Then why isnt he a billionaire?"

Then I have nothing to say. Thats why I asked him.
 

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Everytime people see his book. They always tell me that he is a guru, just like the other business books. I try to convince. But then they ask me "Then why isnt he a billionaire?"

Then I have nothing to say. Thats why I asked him.

Well, now you know, right? Time is the most precious commodity, and once you reach a certain level of wealth, owning your time and doing what you want takes precedence over furthering the number of zeroes you have in the bank!

P.S. Don't try to convince anyone about the book, MJ, or the forum. I've told many people, and I've put a lot of effort into ensuring a few of my friends read the book. They still haven't. Even though they see me as successful and I've given credit where it's due. However, for one of my friends, all it took was mentioning it and it was a done deal. He read it right away and is now doing great as well.
 
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Thats pretty logical, but the thing is...


A quote said "The more you have, The more you want". Then it makes no sense. There is nothing called "enough money". People always want more. It feels like that we dont see the full picture here, to be honest.

That's just what poor people say to convince themselves not to try. But yes, that's called greed.

I'd suggest you stop quoting others and start thinking for yourself. There IS "enough money" and no, people do not always want more. It's not as black and white as you perceive it to be.
 

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It’s also the “take take take” vs “give” philosophy. Too bad. Reputation is hard to earn and yet so easy to lose.
 

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Why get upset? I don’t understand, he has the right to ask a question, you guys have the right to respond and not respond. I doubt his intentions are to “insult” rather to be real. Yea I get he used the words “wealth” with “billionare“ which gives off an immature vibe, but I don’t think letting him know is even productive for everyone’s sake lol.

I believe the first question was asked as such as to put you in a positive light@MJ DeMarco and your absolutely helpful personality. I felt he paid his respects and then thanked you for the response, and then of course felt comfortable to ask a more colorful question let’s say haha. All in good spirits is what I wish to convey.
 
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Im sorry if these questions was disrespectful. I did not mean to. I love his books, thats why I am interested. I was just curious. The only thing I want, is to learn. I try my best to be respectful.

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Why get upset? I don’t understand, he has the right to ask a question, you guys have the right to respond and not respond. I doubt his intentions are to “insult” rather to be real. Yea I get he used the words “wealth” with “billionare“ which gives off an immature vibe, but I don’t think letting him know is even productive for everyone’s sake lol.

I believe the first question was asked as such as to put you in a positive light@MJ DeMarco and your absolutely helpful personality. I felt he paid his respects and then thanked you for the response, and then of course felt comfortable to ask a more colorful question let’s say haha. All in good spirits is what I wish to convey.
Thank you so much for this comment.
 
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Next time someone claims I'm "just another guru", ask them to send you a link to my advanced training courses: You know, the $4,999 coaching program, or the $10,000 weekend seminar, or my one-on-one mentorship program which I sell for the low low price of $14,999.

Insist that they search for those big ticket upsells and when they can't find them, ask them why they *think* they couldn't find them.

no, just let them keep searching! :)
 

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Time is priceless and I wouldn't swap my life for a billion pounds (I'm British). One day you might realise that beyond a certain point more money is just a number. Having more of something that you have enough of doesn't improve your life; it won't buy you more time or pleasure (although wealthy people do live longer). Money brings you choices and freedom unless you become a slave to it. A billionaire who spends all their time trying to earn more money is still a slave to money and hasn't escaped the rat race.
@Cameraman that was a well written, powerful paragraph.
 

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