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Why Can't I Just Do The Dang Work?

James Klymus

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This is also key. We are all busy with jobs and life. If you do the damn work first thing in the day, you leave out the chance of feeling tired, getting side-tracked by random stuff, etc., later in the day.

I actually do get up a few hours before my job, and It used to be my work time then turned into browsing youtube time the past couple months :clench:
 

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Oh and for anyone with a self diagnosed youtube addiction (like me) There's an extension called BlockSite for google chrome. Just download it and put in the sites that distract you, like youtube, facebook, fastlane forum (JK!)

On my phone it's pretty easy to stay off social media when you have the apps deleted, and 95% of the time my personal facebook is deactivated so i'm not tempted to log in and scroll endlessly. I go weeks at a time sometimes without going on facebook.

These arent perfect solutions (you can easily turn off an extension or re download a social media app), but they've certainly helped me and I hope they can help you too
 

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yea i've gotten into this nonsense argument too many times on this forum

i'm a professional research scientist.. i'm honestly not interested in having this debate with laypeople or those without a strong background in biology or neuroscience (phd or better)

take the advice or leave it

Would you mind posting/DMing me a link to your publications? I'ld be interested to read through them


I think first you need to figure out what is holding you back.

  • Is it procrastination or self sabotage as you fear another failure?
  • Is it simply because you are firmly entrenched in your comfort zone and just can't get past it as you don't have an idea worthy enough to entertain the effort required?
  • Is it that you simply don't want it badly enough?
  • Is it entirely something else?

Feelings of frustration is often due to procrastination. That procrastination can be brought on by a strong fear of failure.

We talked quite a bit about fear of failure and about taking small daily steps here

I'm a big advocate of small steps if you can't find it in you to immerse yourself in a project as small steps slowly creates momentum. And it does work.

@Primeperiwinkle has gone from frustration, to small steps to strong focused daily action in a very short space of time. And the longer she continues in that vein, the more progress she makes. Progress she can visibly measure. The longer she maintains that momentum the stronger the habit she will build and the harder it will be to knock her off course. She is building up steam and soon will be a runaway train if she can maintain it.



I went through a bout of analysis paralysis about 4 years ago. It seems that you've created a blueprint for yourself with half-hearted attempts leading to failure. That continual failure loop leads to the fear of failure itself which can block any forward motion.

Failing from one idea to the next is discussed here:


So I think you need a win under your belt so you can break that cycle. Just pick an easy business model. Something you know you can win. That way it will reduce the feelings of anguish and quieten your amygdala from cries out "don't do it, we don't want to fail again!"

Just find a local need and help those around you. Ignore CENTS, you are not looking for the perfect business model, you are just looking to build back some confidence. You can then use that as a stepping stone to heal the hidden fears within and get back on the road to success.

Have a look at @PizzaOnTheRoof's Favouite Gem (below) in the first post of his thread here:

My favorite gems:


Now you have already created a profitable Ecom business, even though it might have had its foundations built on sand. You have the skills. You just need the confidence to start something new and see it through.

Great post!
 
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So you assume I'm a layperson. Assumptions are very dangerous, someone in your profession should know that ;)

I'm not interested in a debate either, but I felt compelled to say something because I KNOW how dangerous and disempowering those things I pointed out that you said are, and I don't want people to pick them up as an excuse, and suffer needlessly because of it.
So far this isn't a helpful, fact-based discussion and the guy on this thread who told you "don't talk to me unless you have a PhD" isn't a scientist at all, but just has a simple agenda to prolong arguments for social media value. He has, however, completed a four-month online course in marketing data (not about scientific theory or research methods), so the world is put on notice. Looking beyond the tangential charts is usually someone choosing to or ignore the truth in order to "speak about what is in his heart."

To address proscrastination and the need to make your life badly, go here:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoA4017M7WU




We are more strongly motivated to avoid pain than to experience the satisfaction of reaching our goals.
BAM.
 
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Hey man, there is great advice here, but sometimes I really feel like it can help to have a good phone call.

Shoot me a private message if you want to talk. I’ve struggled with some of the same things as you and currently run an eCom business. Not going to try and sell you anything - so no worries haha.
 
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So you assume I'm a layperson. Assumptions are very dangerous, someone in your profession should know that ;)

I'm not interested in a debate either, but I felt compelled to say something because I KNOW how dangerous and disempowering those things I pointed out that you said are, and I don't want people to pick them up as an excuse, and suffer needlessly because of it.
i don't wanna clutter up his thread this crap. It's one of those topics that you need years of education to even start grasping, and everyone still has an opinion on despite the lack of education; like drug addiction or social policy and it gets annoying.

It's not an excuse, it's a solution. i've written about the subject ad nauseam. (if you're interested here and here off the top of my head)

if you have any concerns you can post them in one of those threads where it's on-topic.

Edit: here i left a reply to your comment
 
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So you already know my thoughts on this @James Klymus

You can't ignore the role of biology in this. Some people are just born go-getters while others slack.

NOTABLE! What's The Difference Between Slackers And Go Getters? The Answer May Have To Do W/ Brain Chemistry.

The trick is to alter your biology in order to be more in line with those who are naturally motivated.

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I'm not recommending any particular substance, and some of those can be dangerous.. but I'm simply pointing out the role of chemistry in motivation.

That's the first thing. Then the next thing is to become a salesman and sell yourself on whatever you want to accomplish. If your goal isn't totally salient, you're not going to have the motivation to achieve it. Advertisers make the benefits of buying their product so real you can feel them. Food companies know how to make their product look so appealing that you run out and grab it. What you want to do is use similar tactics on your own to 'sell' yourself on whatever you want to achieve. Use the same persuasion tactics on yourself.

We're motivated to do things we think will feel good, and avoid things we think will feel bad. So if there's some fear, that could stop you dead in your tracks. You need to remove the fear. You have to remove punishments and stack rewards.

A Medium post of mine o the topic:


So it's a combination of Biology and Psychology, but Biology is actually the bigger piece of the puzzle, and those who are less educated on this tend to ignore it.

Thanks again Chris, you always have some interesting research when it comes to brain chemistry.

Do you wake up and have a daily to-do list with actionable items that when followed will lead to your desired goals?

When I was having some success I would make a to do list before quitting work for the day, then the next morning I would have exactly what I needed to do. Hmmm don't know why I stopped that
 
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Man, this thread is confusing and unproductive
 

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So what's your gameplan?

Where are you working now? How much money are you setting aside for investing per month?
 
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So what's your gameplan?

Where are you working now? How much money are you setting aside for investing per month?

Working on paying off debt right now, Which will be done by the end of the month.

I save about $1200-1400/mo which has been going to paying off debt, but almost knocked that out so that will be in the bank each month.

Going to use that to build an email list with paid traffic (I have experience building email lists in the past), then I'll be giving value and offering my products via my list & community
 

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Sometimes when I think about the motivation problem that seems to plague so many people I get the idea that it isn't really a motivation problem.

It's a distraction problem.

If you didn't have the internet on your phone.
If you didn't have video games to play.
If you didn't have Netflix to watch.
If you didn't have friends to hang with.
If you didn't have books to read.
If you didn't have forums to browse.
If you didn't have a job to do.
If you didn't have a family to care after.
If you didn't have anything "better" to do.

Would it be hard to do the things you know you need to do to be successful?

Lots of people suggesting books, apps, and other activities to try to get back on track.

Might I suggest taking everything and throwing it out the window for a week. See what happens.

You might just find that the boredom drives you to be productive.
This is a great suggestion here. Eliminate the external triggers to distraction.
These are just the symptoms of distractibility, however.
There are more answers in the thread on "Indistractibility" by bestseller author of "Hooked," Nir Eyal.
 
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Sometimes when I think about the motivation problem that seems to plague so many people I get the idea that it isn't really a motivation problem.

It's a distraction problem.

If you didn't have the internet on your phone.
If you didn't have video games to play.
If you didn't have Netflix to watch.
If you didn't have friends to hang with.
If you didn't have books to read.
If you didn't have forums to browse.
If you didn't have a job to do.
If you didn't have a family to care after.
If you didn't have anything "better" to do.

Would it be hard to do the things you know you need to do to be successful?

Lots of people suggesting books, apps, and other activities to try to get back on track.

Might I suggest taking everything and throwing it out the window for a week. See what happens.

You might just find that the boredom drives you to be productive.
Not necessarily. If i leave myself in my default state with my default inclinations, even if I were to do with all the mobile phones and books and all, I could spend the entire week all in my head thinking about different things and analysing different scenarios from morning till night, all week. And wouldn't get bored while at it.
I think the fundamental issue is that "Resistance" talked about in the book linked to by MHP368 in the 3rd post on this thread.
At least that is what it is for me.
Just a different perspective.
 

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