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As I said in Diego Lu's post, I want to thank you Andy also on this one.
I should have this as a daily reminder.
I'm the guy who searches the internet for a solution, books or courses when I'm faced with a problem instead of going in and start getting involved in it.
I want to focus on what I can create instead. What can I do ? Who can I help ?
Thanks again.
 
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As I said in Diego Lu's post, I want to thank you Andy also on this one.
I should have this as a daily reminder.
I'm the guy who searches the internet for a solution, books or courses when I'm faced with a problem instead of going in and start getting involved in it.
I want to focus on what I can create instead. What can I do ? Who can I help ?
Thanks again.
Thanks! Glad it helped.

Can you link to your reply in Diego’s post. I think Diego’s post and your reply will be very valuable to people.
 

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I learned slowly that the lad with the lawnmower (who may very well have dropped out of school) was street-smart where I was book-smart.

And that he was streets ahead of me.
This is such a beautiful and powerful wake-up call. I just added it to one of the favorite quotes I must constantly come back to review.
 
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I definitely agree for the most part. I personally needed to see how others started businesses and got through tough situations before getting started or at least I thought I did. Before I paid for Shopify to get my business launched I listened to hours and hours of How I Built This podcast. I was at the time also working on getting healthy from years of alcohol abuse. I would do a 40-60 mile bike ride over 3-4 hours and that podcast got my through it.
 

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Ressalto.


Seu objetivo não é “aprender” nada. É para ajudar as pessoas, depois ajudar as pessoas e ser pago.

Abaixe seus livros e gaste seu tempo ajudando as pessoas. Faça isso sem expectativa e sem se desesperar.

O melhor aprendizado está no trabalho de qualquer maneira.
O que funciona para mim é focar em ajudar os outros. Então você não precisa de livros de autodesenvolvimento, pois não está mais no seu caminho.
These 2 posts began to turn a key in me, I entered the final forum of 2021 and until then I was only consuming.

I believe that because I was overcoming a depression I ended up sinking in the comfort of studying (beware of that personal!).

I was analyzing here that the thoughts that come to my mind are always, if I do not have knowledge or ability how I will help someone, but now I perebo that I could think differently, as you made me understand, I will only know what skills to have and problems to solve if first I have someone to help, and not trying to learn things from nothing.

Thank you @Andy Black

Note: I hope you can understand, my English is still very limited, I use a lot of translators.
 

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These 2 posts began to turn a key in me, I entered the final forum of 2021 and until then I was only consuming.

I believe that because I was overcoming a depression I ended up sinking in the comfort of studying (beware of that personal!).

I was analyzing here that the thoughts that come to my mind are always, if I do not have knowledge or ability how I will help someone, but now I perebo that I could think differently, as you made me understand, I will only know what skills to have and problems to solve if first I have someone to help, and not trying to learn things from nothing.

Thank you @Andy Black

Note: I hope you can understand, my English is still very limited, I use a lot of translators.
Understood perfectly. I'm glad it's turned a key for you. Yes, the *key* is to "help people" rather than "learn things".
 
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The most obvious danger of consuming too much is that it turns you into a consumer.

A lot of that “free” (and paid) content out there is designed to turn you into someone else’s consumer. (And it’s not free btw... not unless you put zero value on the time it took to consume that “free” content.)

You probably knew this right?

But here’s something I’ve noticed from PMs with a few thousand forum members:

Many of you don’t think you know enough to get started.

Many of you are constantly looking for something else to consume so you can finally become a producer.


The more insidious danger of consuming is that it makes you think you don’t already know enough to start.

I always imagine a young lad knocking on the door with a lawnmower in tow.

“Hey mister. Do you need your grass cut?”

“Not today thanks.”

“No thanks. Maybe another time.”

“Oh wow. I was just thinking of finding someone to cut my grass. Yes please.”

(I live in a very polite little world.)


You know what that lad didn’t do?

He didn’t think:

“I need a logo.”

“I need a website.”

“I don’t know enough about cold calling.”

“I need to go to the library and get a heap of books on how to start a business.”


Many of us know to give ourselves a stern talking to when we catch ourselves action faking.

But did you know the hidden rabbit-hole lying in wait for you in the library?

“Oh boy. I didn’t realise I needed to know about marketing as well as just starting a business.”

“Uh-oh... I didn’t know I needed to create avatars of my ideal customers before I go knocking on doors. What if I go round the wrong estate?”

“USP?! Whoa. I’m glad I came into the library today. I wouldn't have known that I didn’t know about USPs.”

“Scaling? Growth? What’s that mean? Should I even try to start a grass cutting business?”

“OMG... look at all this stuff I didn’t know I needed to learn before I even step out of the house and speak to people this fine Saturday afternoon.”


Many of you are straight out of school or college.

You’ve been taught to consume and read your way out of problems.

Whenever a new challenge comes up you’ve been programmed to search for a book or course.

This is how deep the script has it’s claws in you. And the further you got into the education system the deeper those claws.

I get it. I was a good student. I got my degree. I worked a cubicle for nearly 2 decades. I took the courses. I Googled for “books on XYZ”. I took “evening classes on ABC”. I even decided I “needed” an MSc to get ahead.

I learned slowly that the lad with the lawnmower (who may very well have dropped out of school) was street-smart where I was book-smart.

And that he was streets ahead of me.


Then one day someone asked me a very simple question:

“Andy. What if you already know enough?”

Oh.


We all want to join team producer right?

The best way is to produce more, not consume more.

What if you already know enough?

What would you do then?

Do that.

...

PS: This was all *produced* on my phone on a coach to the airport.

I could have consumed a podcast for the hour, or I could have produced a post in that hour. I chose to gain clarity by producing, to help others by producing, and to not clutter up my head with yet more “knowledge”.

I chose to clear my head not fill it.

Excellent point. @fastlane_dad and I have went through the cycle of "overanalyzing" and "over consuming information" many times in our career. I guess lucky for us we have acquired a built in mechanism through the years that usually kicks us out of it. Almost like a sick to our stomach feeling of "OK I HAVE DONE WAY TOO MUCH RESEARCH AND THINKING ABOUT THIS" and completely cleans ourselves of any more books/articles/forums until we do something.

At the end of the day, now that I don't have as much NEED to build or do something successful. I just like learning, researching, and analyzing! So as long as I come into it with my eyes open of what the goal is, I'm fine with wasting a little bit of time. This shouldn't apply to aspiring entrepreneurs that are still in the pits and on their first journey though!
 

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I think everyone has their point. It's a little bit of everything, but do take action on what you know, and you might know more than you give yourself credit for....
 

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To piggyback off of this, my favorite method is to learn through production.

I'm "transitioning" from physicist into a machine learning engineer, because I'm solidly in the camp of "code it yourself if you can". So what's my process for learning this new field?

Example: I wanted to learn to program a deep reinforcement learning algorithm called Deep Q Learning. In a nutshell, it's a way for artificial intelligence agents learn to play video games. These algorithms have applications far beyond trivial video games, but games are the most accessible to the new learner without access to Uber or Doordash levels of data. So how could I learn this?

Option 1) Watch someone else's video tutorial, blindly copy the code line for line without really thinking too deeply.

Option 2) Read some material on how the algorithm works, translate that into code, and turn it into a YouTube video series to teach others.

Option 1 would have gotten me functional code to play with, but if I wouldn't really know the why behind it. When I decide I want to learn something else, I would have to watch more videos and spend the same amount of time because I haven't learned anything that I can generalize.

Option 2 means that I have to struggle (almost 16 hours of coding, testing, debugging) to build something from scratch. At the end of that, I have to go through line by line and be able to justify it to an audience. Then spend a few hours recording, editing, and uploading. So it takes 20 hours when I could have just spent a few watching someone else's content.
I have to endure the pain of feeing stupid and inadequate; ride the wave of feelings from excitement, anxiety, despair, and ultimately triumph and pride. This is in contrast to the purely pleasurable feelings you get from consuming someone's content. This is not an easy path to choose.

But the end result is that I understand the topic inside and out. It means that when I want to learn the next topic I can leverage my slightly deeper understanding to learn it faster.

Repeated iterations of option 2 result in compound returns on learning. This allows one to arrive at a state of deep domain expertise in difficult things.

This is the difference between what Lex Deville would call Tier 1, and Tier 3 gurus. The Tier 1 gurus understand the why, because they have taken concepts from their brain into production. Knowing the why and not just the how allows them to generate new knowledge to sell to the tier 3 gurus. The tier 3 gurus gobble it up and then wonder how the Tier 1 guys come up with this stuff. Never stopping to think that perhaps they should step back and look at first principles.

It's also the reason why Biophase can go from one eCom success to another, as if he's blessed by some Archangel of selling shit online.

TL;DR

Follow Andy's advice and get started learning something by doing / producing
Don't wuss out and read tutorials, really learn how to do it and just take the pain
Become the tier 1 guru and then generate new knowledge in your domain

@404profound
Thank you so much lowtek. I have just recently graduated college and I have no job(by choice). I have been trying to get into the world of cryto and web3 (application production not trading) and I have been "learning" since the last 4 months and never took any action on it. Now that I have read your post I am able to reflect on myself and my "learnings" and I have realized that I have not learnt anything productive. I will now try to implement all the knowledge that I have gained to produce something and see where it goes although it feels like I don't have enough knowledge to get started yet. Thank you again for the awesome post
 
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The most obvious danger of consuming too much is that it turns you into a consumer.

A lot of that “free” (and paid) content out there is designed to turn you into someone else’s consumer. (And it’s not free btw... not unless you put zero value on the time it took to consume that “free” content.)

You probably knew this right?

But here’s something I’ve noticed from PMs with a few thousand forum members:

Many of you don’t think you know enough to get started.

Many of you are constantly looking for something else to consume so you can finally become a producer.


The more insidious danger of consuming is that it makes you think you don’t already know enough to start.

I always imagine a young lad knocking on the door with a lawnmower in tow.

“Hey mister. Do you need your grass cut?”

“Not today thanks.”

“No thanks. Maybe another time.”

“Oh wow. I was just thinking of finding someone to cut my grass. Yes please.”

(I live in a very polite little world.)


You know what that lad didn’t do?

He didn’t think:

“I need a logo.”

“I need a website.”

“I don’t know enough about cold calling.”

“I need to go to the library and get a heap of books on how to start a business.”


Many of us know to give ourselves a stern talking to when we catch ourselves action faking.

But did you know the hidden rabbit-hole lying in wait for you in the library?

“Oh boy. I didn’t realise I needed to know about marketing as well as just starting a business.”

“Uh-oh... I didn’t know I needed to create avatars of my ideal customers before I go knocking on doors. What if I go round the wrong estate?”

“USP?! Whoa. I’m glad I came into the library today. I wouldn't have known that I didn’t know about USPs.”

“Scaling? Growth? What’s that mean? Should I even try to start a grass cutting business?”

“OMG... look at all this stuff I didn’t know I needed to learn before I even step out of the house and speak to people this fine Saturday afternoon.”


Many of you are straight out of school or college.

You’ve been taught to consume and read your way out of problems.

Whenever a new challenge comes up you’ve been programmed to search for a book or course.

This is how deep the script has it’s claws in you. And the further you got into the education system the deeper those claws.

I get it. I was a good student. I got my degree. I worked a cubicle for nearly 2 decades. I took the courses. I Googled for “books on XYZ”. I took “evening classes on ABC”. I even decided I “needed” an MSc to get ahead.

I learned slowly that the lad with the lawnmower (who may very well have dropped out of school) was street-smart where I was book-smart.

And that he was streets ahead of me.


Then one day someone asked me a very simple question:

“Andy. What if you already know enough?”

Oh.


We all want to join team producer right?

The best way is to produce more, not consume more.

What if you already know enough?

What would you do then?

Do that.

...

PS: This was all *produced* on my phone on a coach to the airport.

I could have consumed a podcast for the hour, or I could have produced a post in that hour. I chose to gain clarity by producing, to help others by producing, and to not clutter up my head with yet more “knowledge”.

I chose to clear my head not fill it.
Thanks Andy. I particularly liked the idea that "free content" is not free unless you value your time at 0. Reminded me too of the saying "if the product you are consuming is free, you are the product".
 

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