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I've been trading bitcoin since 2013, and trading ETH since the summer of this year (mining ETH as well on multiple GPU rigs), along with trading many of the alt coins with a multi-market auto trading bot.

Here is my take on the OP's question:
This is a highly speculative strategy, akin to penny stock trading, or venture capital investing i.e. invest in 15 different things, 14 of which will lose or at best, break even, and 1 of which will make more money than you lost on the other 14.


Here is how to do it:
1) Focus on the alts with the highest liquidity. You can get the list of alt-coins, sorted by market cap as a proxy for liquidity.

2) Look at the top 20 or so coins on this list. Possibly filter out coins that are too expensive. Expensive is somewhat subjective - it depends on if you insist on coins being cheaper than $10 or something because the idea here is to buy them really cheap, and hold them for a long time looking for that 10x or 100x gain as Bitcoin did.

3) find the coins that have something that fundamentally differentiates them from other coins and provides some value to miners, holders or people using them for transactions, etc. For example, ETH is ASIC mining resistant and has a contract component as part of its fundamental structure that differentiates it from BTC

4) watch these coins and look for a volatility breakout. Be wary of pump-and-dumps though. After the VB, see if there is any news on why there was a VB. Wait for the coin to start making new highs above the VB peak, and buy in. As a back up entry, buy at the highest historical high. The general idea here is to not waste money on coins that are not showing any signs of life. Avoid opportunity cost.

5) Hold them for a long time. Hold them OFFLINE and not in an "exchange". Use a paper wallet, digital cold storage wallet, etc. The idea is to protect yourself from another Mt.Gox type of event. Also, note that this means holding the coins 8+ years. This is not a short term trade. Recall the Bitcoin for pizzas story: 2 pizzas were purchased for 10,000 BTC back in 2010. Someone in 2010 bought 2 pizzas with 10,000 bitcoins — which today would be worth $20 million Today those would be $194 million dollar pizzas. That is some f'ing expensive-a$$ peperoni!

6) Exit strategy: I'm a trader, so I would attempt to time the exits at the periodic peaks on the way up. I would not cash out my entire position. I would cash out some so I can enjoy the profits (and redeploy them somewhere else), but continue to hold some of the coins.
 
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I put some money into ADA and watched it almost double today. That was kinda fun.

I just started today, I’m no expert. But the ones that I put money into were ADA, TRX and IOTA. Will be fun to watch
 

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Nice. I'm all aboard the ADA train too. Not invested in any other crypto. I just saw it as an opportunity to buy bargain basement equity in someone else's Fastlane which promises a massive value skew. Going to leave those Cardanos right in their wallet for years and just see what happens. :cool:

Do it from your own research. I literally just started speculating in coin today. Ive done maybe, 3 or 4 days of research.

Don’t invest because I said so. Invest because you did the research and like what you see
 

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I’m currently in a couple dozen Alts. But the most recents ones are ADA, GVT, WABI, TNB, CVC, SUB and the soon to be released ACAD (which is currently ICOing, and not yet trading).

The ADA returned more this week than my first 2 years out of college!! Crazy times. I’m not unloading it until it reaches at least $1.20. But that’s just MY target! Do your own due diligence, and be braced for the roller coaster ride!
 
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Copy/paste from the long crypto thread, these are some of the top 3 coins I'm currently in and going under the radar. That's the type of coins I like since they tend to give the biggest multipliers ;)
I was an original NEM (XEM) stake holder and got 2.25 million coins for .075 btc, 2.5-3 years later I sold for about 75 BTC. So I like to buy what goes under the radar. Chasing pumps usually leaves you holding bags and losing. Sure you can win sometimes but you have to be in early.

I'm going to point you guys to 3 alt coins I think will do amazing in Q1-Q2 of 2018. Not saying invest in them, but definitely check them out.

Syscoin - Aiming to be the crypto ebay/amazon. Rebranding should be starting soon. They currently have the "blockmarket" available to use inside of their coin wallet where you can already buy stuff using Bitcoin/Syscoin/Zcash with some pretty big retailers from Canada already listing SKUs and are working on bringing a web version in Q1 that will make it "grandma friendly". Amazing team doing big things going under the radar. Masternodes coming in February as well.

CasinoCoin - Old coin that had died a while back but recently resurrected as a non profit organization in the Isle of Man with some big names on board.
They are aiming to bring crypto to online casinos. Coin is currently going a chain swap from a litecoin based algorithm to ripple based for the super fast transactions. This will bring the coin supply from ~40 million to 40 billion. Currently only on 1 exchange and it will start trading the new coin probably at the end of this week. Heres some links on the people involved in this project.
Main team - Board of Trustees - CasinoCoin
Advisors - Advisory Board - CasinoCoin

As you can see they have a lot of people involved in the gambling industry.

Last but not least. BlockCAT - Aiming to be like the wordpress or app store of smart contracts. They will be releasing the beta of their platform very soon with the first smart contract being an ICO maker. All the smart contracts they release will be a drag and drop type thing so people with no programming skills will be able to use smart contracts. Super low market cap at the moment.
 

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What are the best indicators that a cryptocurrency is going to explode? Sorry for the newbie question... I'm really new on this and want to get good at recognizing those "patterns" ahead of the trend.
I went to their websites and read about them. For instance, I looked up Ripple and Cardano and saw what kind of services they are doiing and planning to do. I also looked at their partners and their team. Read a little about their creators too. For me, it was just looking at all these factors and deciding if I like it and can see a future with it. It's really all just a gamble though. That's why you should only invest with what you are OK with losing.
 
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My wallet is getting itchy and I’m really tempted to go deep in on Tronix TRX. The founder just announced he was locking his 32bn coin into cold storage until 2020, effectively cutting 1/3 of the supply. This means that there’s less chance the market will flood and dilute and that the founder is in it for long run, not just selling his coin.

It went from $0.017 when I bought it on Thursday to $0.042 today. Still cheap, still plenty of room to grow. Chatter is an announcement could come out next week to pump it to $0.50 by Dec 31st...
 
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hey, you should just think about this:

you know that it is easier for a 3 cent coin to go to 3 dollars, than it is for a $300 dollar coin to go to $30,000 same rise.

watch out for the pennystocks but not the shit ones. Good picks with reasons of technology and usage are Siacoin, Bytecoin, Bitshares, Golos, Tron, Electroneum, Redcoin(not sure about this one but it looks like they got new management), Cardano, Stellar, Verge, NEM, Ripple....
 

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Can you explain a little more about this? Whats the correlation of market cap and upside potential?

Market cap is price x circulating supply. Market cap is what the cryptocurrencies are ranked on - So, Bitcon is number 1 as it has a market cap of $240B - Market cap is the projects valuation in fiat currency.

Many people think that a coin with a low price can grow more than a high coin price, which is completely false. Take Verge for example, there is currently a circulating supply of 14.4B XVG tokens and each one is $0.22, which gives us a $3.3B Verge market cap.

I've seen countless people say they cant wait until Verge reaches $100 a token. I mean, if Litecoin can, why can't Verge?! Well, it would need to grow 45400% percent - These massive figures are possible in the crazy-crypto-world. But this would give verge a market cap/value of $1.5 Trillion. Only $100 a token, but a valuation of $1.5 trillion. Extremely unlikely for that project.

Another example is Ripple. Only $2.36 a token, yet has the second highest market cap. Can this really grow 10000% easier than VeChain (or other big projects with much lower market caps). Who knows...

Basically, what I'm trying to say is this - To get an idea of a projects upside potential you need to look at the market cap, not the price.
 
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Basically, what I'm trying to say is this - To get an idea of a projects upside potential you need to look at the market cap, not the price.

This is true, and you also have to remember that the whole ecosystem is growing, so you can't compare a project's potential market cap in comparison to others like I've seen some people do. "Are you crazy, XYZ coin can't 50x from here, that would give it a market cap bigger than Bitcoin"!

1 year ago, Bitcoin's market cap was 15 billion. What if someone said a year ago that Ethereum could hit a market cap of 72 billion? "Almost 5 times bigger than Bitcoin?! Sounds ridiculous!"
 

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Only holding the one alt. Well, one outside the top 20.

VeChain (VEN) - Currently $0.67 with a $185,591,702 market cap.

Looks to have a lot of potential. Undergoing a re-branding next month and currently partnered with a few billion dollar companies. Including - Renault, DIG, DNV GL, and BabyGhost.

"Within 5 years, we believe you’ll be able to scan a product in a store with NFC and see its entire history – who made it – what with – how it got here – and how long it took".

Other than Ven, I currently hold: Ethereum, Ripple, Cardano, Neo, and Omg. EOS and Iota have my attention.
 

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Quick tip if you're trading through Binance to get 50% off trade fees

Stock up on a small amount of Binance coins (BNB) before trading your BTC/XYZ or ETH/XYZ. Check the 'Use BNB to Deduct Fees' and It will cut your all trade fees by 50%
 

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Hey Guys, So we all know research is important, but where do you get this big news from? Do you just google each coin and find the latest news or youtube it and just save on a folder. Whats your method? Any tips anyone?
I'm lucky to get most of my signals from hanging out in a private Whatsapp chat with a bunch of OG whales, founders, etc. I just sit back and listen...a LOT because I trust that they know the ecosystem better than any just about anyone on the planet.

Other than that, though, +1 what ljb7 said.
 
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So with this boom of cryptocurrencies, I've become interested in trying to spot newer coins that have some sort of a competitive advantage/differentiation to the bigger players such as Bitcoin and Ethereum.

I felt having a thread where we can point these out to each other might be quite useful. Ideally the coins would be under $10 or out of the top 20 for market cap and have something different about them.

Anybody got any on their radar?
 
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Thanks for the info. I’m already planning to buy CasinoCoin in the next few days but I was confused by the coin swap. So if I buy CasinoCoin right now, I’m not buying the new coin? It would be the old one?
Well Alcurex was the exchange with the old chain CSC still listed and they started the swap so I think by tomorrow or Tuesday the new coin will be trading and since the coin supply is going to be x1000, I expect new price to be 2-4 satoshi at the beginning
 

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Sorry for the newbie question, but if I put my coins on MEW I can still swing trade with them?

If it’s in your My Ether Wallet, then I think it will cost you Ether everytime you transfer it to an exchange, so I’d just keep it in the exchange if you’re swing trading.
 
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Just one thing to note to people. People are doing 'Pump and Dump' on the smaller cryptocurrencies. They're premoting the currencies on social media, waiting for the price to go up and then getting out and repeat. Since it's not regulated like stocks, I'm not sure if it's illegal or not(probably still is).
Just something to be aware of...
 

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Only holding the one alt. Well, one outside the top 20.

VeChain (VEN) - Currently $0.67 with a $185,591,702 market cap.

Looks to have a lot of potential. Undergoing a re-branding next month and currently partnered with a few billion dollar companies. Including - Renault, DIG, DNV GL, and BabyGhost.

"Within 5 years, we believe you’ll be able to scan a product in a store with NFC and see its entire history – who made it – what with – how it got here – and how long it took".

Other than Ven, I currently hold: Ethereum, Ripple, Cardano, Neo, and Omg. EOS and Iota have my attention.

Just an update letting you know that VeChain is now 100% of my portfolio.

Price is now hovering the $2 mark with a marketcap of $549,860,177.

With the partnerships and deals VeChain has already made, this deserves to be a top 10 coin (I actually think it will be top 5 in the longer term). VeChain has been flying under the rador, making deals, whilst other coins pump from pure hype. Despite all the massive news, the CEO said January will "blow our minds". There's also supposed to be a new exchange, more deals, re-branding and details of their masternode program. If everything runs as expected, I envision a 4B market cap by end of Jan.

Please don't invest any money because of me, or any person on the internet.. But if you like the alt market, then I invite you to spend a few moments looking into VeChain.
 
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Definetely watching this thread. I've read some interesting recomendations about STEEM. Seems promising and its still around $2. I'm buying some and ride the wave (I expect).
 
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I put some money into ADA and watched it almost double today. That was kinda fun.

I just started today, I’m no expert. But the ones that I put money into were ADA, TRX and IOTA. Will be fun to watch

Nice. I'm all aboard the ADA train too. Not invested in any other crypto. I just saw it as an opportunity to buy bargain basement equity in someone else's Fastlane which promises a massive value skew. Going to leave those Cardanos right in their wallet for years and just see what happens. :cool:
 
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Do it from your own research. I literally just started speculating in coin today. Ive done maybe, 3 or 4 days of research.

Don’t invest because I said so. Invest because you did the research and like what you see

I bought into ADA a few weeks ago. That said, this should be a warning sign displayed prominently on anything crypto-mania related.
 

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Incredible the amount of new coins hitting the market, and sure to increase.. can’t imagine (based on my limited knowledge of the space) that there’s enough room/applications for all of them. I fear many will be going to $0 :clench:
 
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For you guys wanting to hold your coin, are you keeping everything on Coinbase/Binance or transferring that into a wallet or something ?

I left mine on binance. I know it’s not the safest, so I’m going to research more into wallets. I know I’m definitely not getting a hardware wallet, I have ~$500 in crypto, and the hardware wallets I’ve seen are $300+.
 
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Ok thanks for the answers guys, is it normal that in Coinbase we can't invest in any others currencies than LTC/BTC/ETH..do i need to go on Binance ?

That’s correct, coinbase is only the big 3 (although Litecoin is technically an altcoin).

Binance is for most other altcoins, as Scot mentioned.
 
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My plan is to diversify as follows:

More Established coins (Big Market Cap)
- LTC
- ETH

Could Be The Future (Medium Market Cap)
- XRP
- IOTA
- ADA
- DASH

Speculative/Niches (Small Market Cap - Bigger Rewards)
- VEN
- REQ
- CSC

My plan is to probably hold these long term and then leave like 1k that I can do some day trading with.
 

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HI Guys, Have Ripple,LTC and ADA. Will be buying few more. Portfolio tripled in value since a month.

For those who are leaving it in exchanges like CoinBase, don't do it. Can be hacked and also if there are forks,very hard to get the new ones like BTG with BTC.

Get hardware ledger<100$, or save it in coinomi or MyEtherwallet. Save the key and phrase in a very secure location.
 
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