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100 years ago 50M died in the 1918 Pandemic. It killed 3x the people WW1 did. We are about due for another one.

Accelerating infections:

They are treating an infected guy in Seattle using a robot:

"Plague Inc" is best selling iOS App:
 

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No but the marketing campaign for vaccines and flu shots just got another free 10B in advertising. Smdh.

I’m sure Merck will “rescue” us all.
 

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The only cure for coronavirus is some limes.

I prefer modelovirus though, if im honest.

But in all seriousness, the media is sensationalizing things like usual. 2 Weeks ago we were on the brink of world war 3, now the next plague is upon us.

Also, compared to 100 years ago, we've come a long way with our understanding of viruses and treatment. In people with healthy immune systems, it is rarely fatal. The people who have died were already in poor health.


The jokes and memes I've seen going around show how "concerned" people actually are about this.

Ironically I have a bit of a stuffy nose and sore throat as I type this, so it was nice knowing you guys.
 

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Here's my observation, as someone who does not consume mainstream media.

I sense that people have real fear about this, but I can't tell if that fear is justified or just something manufactured by skillful fearmongers.

The media has really heightened and honed their ability to breed real fear of diseases over the past few years.

Fear is naturally contagious, but there will always be those people who shrug it off and say, "Meh, whatever. It's not going to be as bad as they're trying to get you to think."

I'm one of those people. But it seems that we have gotten thinned out by the media's increasing ability to convince a huge number of people that it WILL be as bad or worse than we think.

I remember discussing Ebola a few years back with a co-worker who was genuinely terrified of Ebola. His attitude was the same as the one in this thread title: "Is Ebola going to kill us all?" I realized then, "Wow, people actually believe this!" This guy was not unstable or just a wuss. He was a manly dude, earning very high wages, well liked, extremely good looking, and overall someone who was enjoying life and fun to be around.

I remember SARS being a thing. I went to China in January of 2004, and lots of people were still wearing masks. I've noticed periodically the contrast between how EVERYONE in China seemed to be adopting mask wearing as a normal thing, and how very few people here do so. It seems to me that China has been MORE successful at breeding that fear population-wide, but we are catching up.

I think this fear becomes easier and easier to breed because every successive event taps into the fear that was already aroused in the last round and just layers on top of it. So for instance, all the fear that built up in my coworker who was afraid of Ebola will probably revive in full force, and now coronavirus will just build on that.

Is it possible to experience a worldwide pandemic? Yeah.

Is it likely that this is it? I don't think so.

Will it affect some people? Yes. Will it be heartbreaking for them? Yes.

But car accidents affect people every day, and we're not terrified to drive our cars. In fact, we tend to think, "It won't happen to me."

Car accidents cause about 40,000 deaths per year in the US [source]. Worldwide, there are an estimated 1.24 million car accident deaths per year [source].

I can see us freaking out and feeling like "it might affect me" if the numbers approach car accident numbers.

I can see us progressing to think, "it might kill us all" if the numbers rise to double or triple that.

Until the death toll for this comes closer to car accident numbers, though, I think it's all just a bunch of hype and manipulation.
 

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Here's my observation, as someone who does not consume mainstream media.

I sense that people have real fear about this, but I can't tell if that fear is justified or just something manufactured by skillful fearmongers.

The media has really heightened and honed their ability to breed real fear of diseases over the past few years.

Fear is naturally contagious, but there will always be those people who shrug it off and say, "Meh, whatever. It's not going to be as bad as they're trying to get you to think."

I'm one of those people. But it seems that we have gotten thinned out by the media's increasing ability to convince a huge number of people that it WILL be as bad or worse than we think.

I remember discussing Ebola a few years back with a co-worker who was genuinely terrified of Ebola. His attitude was the same as the one in this thread title: "Is Ebola going to kill us all?" I realized then, "Wow, people actually believe this!" This guy was not unstable or just a wuss. He was a manly dude, earning very high wages, well liked, extremely good looking, and overall someone who was enjoying life and fun to be around.

I remember SARS being a thing. I went to China in January of 2004, and lots of people were still wearing masks. I've noticed periodically the contrast between how EVERYONE in China seemed to be adopting mask wearing as a normal thing, and how very few people here do so. It seems to me that China has been MORE successful at breeding that fear population-wide, but we are catching up.

I think this fear becomes easier and easier to breed because every successive event taps into the fear that was already aroused in the last round and just layers on top of it. So for instance, all the fear that built up in my coworker who was afraid of Ebola will probably revive in full force, and now coronavirus will just build on that.

Is it possible to experience a worldwide pandemic? Yeah.

Is it likely that this is it? I don't think so.

Will it affect some people? Yes. Will it be heartbreaking for them? Yes.

But car accidents affect people every day, and we're not terrified to drive our cars. In fact, we tend to think, "It won't happen to me."

Car accidents cause about 40,000 deaths per year in the US [source]. Worldwide, there are an estimated 1.24 million car accident deaths per year [source].

I can see us freaking out and feeling like "it might affect me" if the numbers approach car accident numbers.

I can see us progressing to think, "it might kill us all" if the numbers rise to double or triple that.

Until the death toll for this comes closer to car accident numbers, though, I think it's all just a bunch of hype and manipulation.
Agreed

Also, 100 years, we had nothing like the sanitation we have now
 

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Car accidents cause about 40,000 deaths per year in the US [source]. Worldwide, there are an estimated 1.24 million car accident deaths per year [source].

I can see us freaking out and feeling like "it might affect me" if the numbers approach car accident numbers.
This comparison doesn't really make sense, since car accidents don't spread from person to person in the grocery line.
 

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I've heard people talking about it; assumed it may be another sars or swine flu panic. Straight to Wikipedia and assumption confirmed.

MILD RESPIRATORY SYMPTOMS

If we can avoid being elderly, newborn, or immuno-compromised, we should be ok with blankets and chicken soup (thank you South Park).
 

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The only cure for coronavirus is some limes.

I prefer modelovirus though, if im honest.

But in all seriousness, the media is sensationalizing things like usual. 2 Weeks ago we were on the brink of world war 3, now the next plague is upon us.

Also, compared to 100 years ago, we've come a long way with our understanding of viruses and treatment. In people with healthy immune systems, it is rarely fatal. The people who have died were already in poor health.


The jokes and memes I've seen going around show how "concerned" people actually are about this.

Ironically I have a bit of a stuffy nose and sore throat as I type this, so it was nice knowing you guys.
From what I can decipher from the hysteria, this is basically a strong flu virus that results in pneumonia if you are old or already suffering from a condition. If you are one of these people, you could have a 10% chance of dying if you get it.
 

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Aint fear the best advertising... Fear porn... vaccine manufacturers going up in the markets... Problem, reaction, solution.
Yep.
Buy when there is blood (fear) in the streets.
Made a couple grand off of Biotech stocks friday .
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As of right now, there are 56 million people quarantined. Unlike Ebola, which spreads through contact with bodily fluids, this puppy is airborne. Infected people show no symptoms for about a week, which means they can infect countless people before they even realize they're sick.

It's rate of transmission is estimated to be anywhere from 2.6 to 3.8, which means that every person who gets it will infect an average of 2.6 to 3.8 people. Supposedly, this is higher than the rate for the Spanish Flu.

In China, millions of people went to bed thinking things were semi-okay, and woke to find they were quarantined. They're out of n95 masks. The grocery shelves are bare. Their health care providers are likely infected themselves.

Even though I don't think it would get that bad here, I do think it's something to keep an eye on, and stock up on essentials, just to be safe.
 

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Normalcy Bias. The normalcy bias, or normality bias, is a belief people hold when there is a possibility of a disaster. It causes people to underestimate both the likelihood of a disaster and its possible effects, because people believe that things will always function the way things normally have functioned. This may result in situations where people fail to adequately prepare themselves for disasters, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. About 70% of people reportedly display normalcy bias in disasters.
 

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I got it the worst living in BC, but hey...look at SARS, wasn't that the end of the world?
 

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Will this be the end of the world? Probably not. SARS wasn’t. MERs wasn’t. And you know what they say... history repeats itself.... until it doesn’t.

I’m not worried, but our world is so interconnected that I think we underestimate how fast something could spread and overwhelm our ability to contain it. And sure, it’s only killing vulnerable people now, but a few months ago it hadn’t mutated enough to infect humans at all yet, apparently.

Whatever we like to tell ourselves, civilization is fragile, and we’re only ever one good EMP or mutant snake virus away from going lord of the flies in loin cloths.

Just wish I had some big pharma stock so I could afford that bunker.
 

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I got it the worst living in BC, but hey...look at SARS, wasn't that the end of the world?
It sounds like this is more contagious, maybe partially due to the fact that it takes so long for symptoms to show up. Plus, I think it's naïve to believe the official infection & death numbers coming out of China. There's no way they'd quarantine so many people if it weren't a lot more serious than they say. Look at what they're actually doing, and not what they're saying.

Personally, I wasn't worried about SARS. And Ebola, I was concerned mostly because there's always the chance of something like that becoming airborne. But this already IS airborne. Plus, based on the location of ground zero and the nature of the sickness itself, there's plenty of reasons to believe that this isn't a natural sickness, but rather a bio-weapon that was accidentally released.

I'm not suggesting we panic. I'm only suggesting that it's always a good idea to make sure you have enough food/water/whatever to shelter in place if the need ever arises.
 

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When the clock strikes midnight.... 1999 going in to 2000.... WE ARE SCREWED!!! Oh wait, I lived. But in all seriousness, we are all going to die so everyone needs to send me all of their money NOW! DO NOT wait another day! Because if you wait another day, you might figure out you aren't dead yet.... but that's beside the point.... SEND YOUR MONEY NOW!!! Send me a message for PayPal invoice.
 

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Perfect time to start your natural hand cleaning brand. If you've been pondering over the idea, now is the PERFECT time to start.

*this is a serious post.

Entrepreneurs see an opportunity, they execute. Fear is the BEST selling point.
 

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Great time to sell some masks.
Remember to sell the N95 one, not the surgical one!

But even then, other health products related to strengthening of the immune system can do well.

It seems that the virus came from eating ‘exotic animals’...so I guess vegan meats and stuff should get a boost.

Yep.
Buy when there is blood (fear) in the streets.
Made a couple grand off of Biotech stocks friday .
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The only thing I read on SA about the Wuhan virus was ‘hedging with options against Chinese indices’ or something like that lol.

 
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