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The Video That Got Banned From YouTube. David Icke on C0VlD-19 and 5G

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Freedom of speech: Say what you want, and be accountable for it. If you want to talk about total rubbish, you can. If you want to slander someone, you can... and you will get taken to court for slander.

Freedom of association: You get to choose who you do and do not want to be around. If you don't like what someone is saying in your home, you can tell them to leave.

This applies to corporations as well as individuals.

YouTube cannot censor anyone, all they are doing is exercising their freedom of association.

People have a weird "moral inversion", where freedoms seem to no longer apply once a person or company becomes XYZ big.
 
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Freedom of speech: Say what you want, and be accountable for it. If you want to talk about total rubbish, you can. If you want to slander someone, you can... and you will get taken to court for slander.

Yep, it is freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences. In most free countries the freedom of speech relates to the government not being allowed to put you in jail or kill you just because they don't like or agree with your ideas.

It doesn't mean companies or people are forced to listen to those ideas or give them a platform.

Nobody is infringing on or taking away David Icke's freedom of speech, they just don't have to give him access to their privately owned platform.
 

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Don't spread this guy's complete and utter nonsense. The guy believes that there is a lizard-race living amongst us... he also believes he is the son of the god head and has messages for us. The guy makes his money by attaching BS conspiracy theories to real world events in order to sell books.

Here's his wikipedia page: David Icke - Wikipedia
Yeah the things he believes is terrifying I know the days when I was 15 years old i would check his website almost daily thank God and my father that I came back to reality again indeed this is really strange he ask a lot of money for his lectures and why write 23 something books when you can express your thoughts in 2 or 3 doesn't makes sense

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David motherfucking Icke :rofl:
What gets me with these conspiracy theorist people is that any world event is always a conspiracy. Not once do they turn around to something and say, yknow what its just real. Everything is a conspiracy, every single time.
 
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I understand this stuff is dangerous: it draws people into a rabbit hole without or barely any sources. It's basically impossible to discuss once people are knee deep into this. Every argument is put away as "fake news" or "propaganda", leaving no room for any discussion.

I totally understand why this and other BS (like Alex Jones) has been taken down. And it's definitely not because "there's some truth in it".

People are fighting hard to get your attention, choose wisely.
 

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Lots of entitled snowflakes in this thread

I don't understand the cognitive dissonance with these right-wing conspiracy types.

You're not entitled to use anyone's platform. These are private companies, and they are protecting their brand and their revenue by choosing to not be tarnished by disinformation.

'But muh libertarianism!!1111'

The victim complex and external locus of control is staggering. How can you not see that you are the exact other side of the coin of the left-wing/socialists/whatever that you get off on straw manning day in and day out?

It's just this vast conspiracy keeping you down. Certainly, none of it could just be in your head. You're rational and logical.
 

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I mean, if Bill Gates want to lower 15% of the world's population, it's because he loves us. Anybody who says otherwise should be censored for our own safety right ?

Source?
 
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Spoken like a true drone.

Apparently some people don't care for credentials and qualifications.

Also it is "your opinion", not "you're opinion".

Unfortunately spellcheck doesn't pick that up. He should've used grammarly. It's convenient how he doesn't want you commenting on American issues, yet comments on Australian issues. Ends up contradicting himself.
 

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Lots of entitled snowflakes in this thread

I don't understand the cognitive dissonance with these right-wing conspiracy types.

You're not entitled to use anyone's platform. These are private companies, and they are protecting their brand and their revenue by choosing to not be tarnished by disinformation.

'But muh libertarianism!!1111'

The victim complex and external locus of control is staggering. How can you not see that you are the exact other side of the coin of the left-wing/socialists/whatever that you get off on straw manning day in and day out?

It's just this vast conspiracy keeping you down. Certainly, none of it could just be in your head. You're rational and logical.
It's odd, but I get what you mean, especially on the victim mindset.

I think for every conspiracy, there's always points to shut it down.
Yet, risks to liberties such as the freedom of speech are always present.

Speaking of speech, I'm surprised TFLF mods aren't corraling over here haha.
 
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You know the USA didn't invent "freedom", it wasn't the first to outline the freedom of speech in their legal system too. Nobody was talking about "American" freedoms, the guy in question is English.

Youtube and Facebook are in the USA, the platforms in question. USA inventing freedom or the first to outline them has nothing to do with the present day. Why even bring that up?

As for the gun issue, we didn't get our guns taken away, we stopped people who shouldn't have them from having them. Many of my friends have guns, I go shooting with them regularly. You are misinformed on the gun issue in Australia, as long as you don't have a criminal conviction for a violent crime, you can easily get a gun legally.

Just because you are allowed to own guns does not mean you have the right to bear arms. The government can take it away if it pleases. Also you're not so free to own guns if you must register and let the government know that you have them. And who chooses who should have guns or not? That's where the freedom part comes into question.


At this point I'm assuming you're just a troll, because the USA is ranked 58th in the world for freedom. Australia is ranked 6th. The USA did not only not invent freedom, they don't even excel at it.
Also it is "your opinion", not "you're opinion".

Oh please who even takes those websites seriously or "organizations" for the matter. According to some of those website Finland is the country with the most freedom. But Finland has hate speech laws. Screenshot_2020-04-15 Hate speech.png

How is that having freedom?

Also Australia ranking above the USA is also laughable. Australia also has hate speech laws. Screenshot_2020-04-15 Hate speech laws in Australia - Wikipedia.png You call that having more freedom than the USA? News flash hate speech is also free speech. But you wouldn't know that.

And thanks for correcting my grammar that really showed me ahhh.

I'm not anti-US at all, I just am over some Americans (probably a vocal minority) thinking and preaching that they are the only free country in the world. They aren't, the list of truly free countries is actually quite long.

They may not be only free country but it's the one that fights against censorship the most and the one with the most protected rights by the constitution. You can't be truly be free when hate speech is banned. Careful there don't post anything I might deem as hate speech I might have to report you to your local authorities. LOL :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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Don't spread this guy's complete and utter nonsense. The guy believes that there is a lizard-race living amongst us... he also believes he is the son of the god head and has messages for us. The guy makes his money by attaching BS conspiracy theories to real world events in order to sell books.

Here's his wikipedia page: David Icke - Wikipedia

They prefer to be called reptoids.

:rofl:
 
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They may not be only free country but it's the one that fights against censoring the most and the one with the most protected rights by the constitution. You can't be truly free when hate speech is banned. Careful there don't post anything I might deem as hate speech I might have to report you to your local authorities. LOL

You talk about hate speech, but imo USA is way less tolerant regarding political incorrectness and prude. Parental advisory is American (Tipper Gore tried to silence artists ffs), most American shows are extremely censored whenever they curse, simply an unrevealed nipple can stir a storm through the country.

So how "free speech" is that really? In theory, yes, but in reality?
 

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You talk about hate speech, but imo USA is way less tolerant regarding political incorrectness and prude. Parental advisory is American (Tipper Gore tried to silence artists ffs), most American shows are extremely censored whenever they curse, simply an unrevealed nipple can stir a storm through the country.

So how "free speech" is that really? In theory, yes, but in reality?
Parental advisory is American (Tipper Gore tried to silence artists ffs), most American shows are extremely censored whenever they curse, simply an unrevealed nipple can stir a storm through the country.

So how "free speech" is that really? In theory, yes, but in reality?

What are you even talking about? Here's the problem with foreigners injecting their opinion on American freedoms. The only side of America you see is the side viewed through the media. What you see through the lens of Hollywood is a lot different to what you see and hear on the streets.

There are no laws that send you to jail because you were political incorrect. The reason you hear so much about political incorrectness is because the political correct crow is doing their best to silence people they see as been politically incorrect.

Other countries with hate speech laws don't have to worry about political incorrectness because they have already silenced them through its laws. In those countries the only speech allowed legally is political correctness.

Mass media has warnings, whistles and censorship to alert the consumer that what they are about to see may not be suitable for children. It doesn't mean the content is illegal it just means that it does it's best to protect children from viewing things they may not fully understand. With a parent children can watch rated R movies and listen to explicit material. Nobody stops them. The shows aired through public broadcast channels are censored because they are not targeted at a specific audience. But if you pay to watch a movie you'll get everything uncensored with sex scenes and cursing. Even those movies a child can go watch in theaters as long as an adult is present with them.
 

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Everybody learns on their 4th acid trip that the moon is a spaceship for the reptilians from the Draconian galaxy who use media outlets to inceptualize fear making us easier to control... I mean... who HASN'T sacrificed a child to worship the Annunaki Sumerian God Enu

Smoke weed, hail Satan

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They may not be only free country but it's the one that fights against censoring the most
Source?

Here's the problem with foreigners injecting their opinion on American freedoms.
We're not talking about "American" freedoms. We never were. We're talking about an English person who lives in England having their video taken down from a site that is accessible nearly worldwide, there is a legal entity in the UK called Google and a legal entity called Facebook UK (you'll find most of Facebook's revenue and legal structure is actually in Ireland along with a large portion of their workforce if you take a minute to look), they may have started in the USA, but they are much larger and diverse than that now.

You were literally the first person in this entire chain to try to make it about the USA, this isn't about the USA.
 

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Other countries with hate speech laws don't have to worry about political incorrectness because they have already silenced them through its laws. In those countries the only speech allowed legally is political correctness.

You really should get out more... like out of the USA and see the world. Political disagreement does not equal hate speech anywhere outside of China and North Korea.

Political discourse is a protected right in Australia. Also you can walk up to the Prime Minister (our equivalent of your President) and call him (or her) a c*nt to their face and you'll get about 30-40% of Australia think you are some sort of hero. Yes, this has been a real legal case and the court ruled it was ok, and yes I censored myself, because I personally detest the word and refuse to use it.

Then there was the young lad who cracked an egg over the head of a very racist Australian senator during a press conference, he wasn't prosecuted (neither was the senator for hitting the guy in retaliation).

I'm very confident that if you tried the same thing in the USA you'd be shot well before you got anywhere near the President.

I find it ironic that some of the citizens of the country with the world's highest rate of incarceration thinks that it has the most freedom.
 

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You really should get out more... like out of the USA and see the world. Political disagreement does not equal hate speech anywhere outside of China and North Korea.

Political discourse is a protected right in Australia. Also you can walk up to the Prime Minister (our equivalent of your President) and call him (or her) a c*nt to their face and you'll get about 30-40% of Australia think you are some sort of hero. Yes, this has been a real legal case and the court ruled it was ok, and yes I censored myself, because I personally detest the word and refuse to use it.

Then there was the young lad who cracked an egg over the head of a very racist Australian senator during a press conference, he wasn't prosecuted (neither was the senator for hitting the guy in retaliation).

I'm very confident that if you tried the same thing in the USA you'd be shot well before you got anywhere near the President.

I find it ironic that some of the citizens of the country with the world's highest rate of incarceration thinks that it has the most freedom.

Political correctness is not political disagreement/discourse you're mixing them up. Look up the definition of political correctness not the same as the others. Political incorrectness is illegal in your country. You have HATE SPEECH LAWS that's called censorship from your government. In America no one goes to jail for hate speech. The majority of incarcerated people are their for drug related offenses. Drugs are not speech so they are not protected under law.

Source?


We're not talking about "American" freedoms. We never were. We're talking about an English person who lives in England having their video taken down from a site that is accessible nearly worldwide, there is a legal entity in the UK called Google and a legal entity called Facebook UK (you'll find most of Facebook's revenue and legal structure is actually in Ireland along with a large portion of their workforce if you take a minute to look), they may have started in the USA, but they are much larger and diverse than that now.

You were literally the first person in this entire chain to try to make it about the USA, this isn't about the USA.

I was not the first person in this thread to make it about the USA. In fact it was you responding to @Lionhearted an American user defending the right to free speech and you tried to censor him by telling him that "There are plenty of limitations on "free speech". "

Screenshot_2020-04-15 The Video That Got Banned From YouTube David Icke on Covid-19 and 5G.png

If it wasn't about the USA it is now. And by the way Facebook board of directors are still based in the USA. The other legal entities around the world are subsidiaries to avoid paying taxes in the USA. And no you would'nt be shot before you get near the president just look up all the attempted assasination scares for Trump on youtube.
 
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Have a look at this article really what kinda times do we live in this guy is so crazy I can't believe this man is still not in a mad house he has almost millions subs the poor souls who believe this guy and believing in his theorys are destroying them self David Icke claims the moon is HOLLOW and built by ALIENS in crazy new theory
Can I smoke some with the Aliens, hell I even will talk about unscripted and tell how cool MJ is
 

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Here you go, they've actually dropped further down the list since I last looked... oh and it is a USA based organisation:


I'm not anti-US at all, I just am over some Americans (probably a vocal minority) thinking and preaching that they are the only free country in the world. They aren't, the list of truly free countries is actually quite long.

Thank you for the reply. I would also agree that the US has no monopoly on freedom, but I don’t believe the source you provided being American makes their rankings any more credible.

This is an extremely hairy issue, as many see the right to bear arms as One of the most important freedoms.

Several of those countries with 100 ratings or even 99s have very high gun-control.

I didn’t see where they outlined how they made their judgements, but it is clear to me that this kind of list is going to change depending on the values of the person or group making the list.

So, in my opinion, stating that the US is ranked 58th in terms of freedom is completely meaningless if the reasoning and criteria by those who post it isn’t clearly spelled out. Maybe I’m missing that though.
 

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you tried to censor him by telling him that "There are plenty of limitations on "free speech". "

At no point have I advocated or attempted to sensor anyone.. I think you have some comprehension issues. I'm bowing out of this discussion as it has wasted more than enough of my time and you are not at all open to reason, facts or anything resembling it.
 
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbeFSEJ19QE


Ookay....looks like London Real got reinstated.

Many London Real fans deleted their Linkedin accounts and started posting vlogs to protest.

So Linkedin recovered the profiles of Brian Rose and his itinerary.

I tried to access London Real's Linkedin but somehow couldn't, but the Brian Rose bio is up and about again.

One for the win?
 

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There are some really interesting things being said here.

One is that YouTube is a privately owned company. Which means there is no "right" everybody should be able to speak their opinions, etc. If people at YouTube want to ban a video, they should be able to do so.
However... it contradicts to their mission statement: "to give everyone a voice and show them the world" I think that's where they strike the nerve. They don't do what they claim to do.

As someone who's drawn to conspiracies I have to be careful to not go too deep into it. I have to look at what helps me in my life, and what not. Being too deep into conspiracy theories can make me a little bit crazy. It gets really bad when everything seems a conspiracy theory. However, it also helps me understand better why I should not put my trust in authorities or so called "experts". I think this my personal challenge... how far do I go into this, and at what point do I let it go, so I can live my life in peace? I know my answer. But the question is, do you?
 

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You do have to register guns in some states in the U.S.
7 states make you register some,or all,and then there is this thing called NFA title II weapons.
(8 states prohibits firearms registries btw)
And then we have form 4473.
I might be wrong though,I am not American.
 
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You do have to register guns in some states in the U.S.
7 states make you register some,or all,and then there is this thing called NFA title II weapons.
(8 states prohibits firearms registries btw)
And then we have form 4473.
I might be wrong though,I am not American.
Than don't comment on American issues. I don't get why people from other countries want to comment on American freedoms at all. It's like they're out to prove the American system wrong.

Yes in some states you have to register for open carry that means Carrying your gun out in Public view. But you can still own a gun as long as you keep it inside your home. Even states with the strictest gun laws still let you keep guns in your home.
 
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Than don't comment on American issues. I don't get why people from other countries want to comment on American freedoms at all. It's like they're out to prove the American system wrong.

Yes in some states you have to register for open carry that means Carrying your gun out in Public view. But you can still own a gun as long as you keep it inside your home. Even states with the strictest gun laws still let you keep guns in your home.
The comment has nothing to do with America,just that the info was wrong.

I shall refrain from commenting on any more of your posts.
 

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I've just hit the ignore button on that particular user. Cries if anyone who isn't from the USA talks about the USA, but then has the arrogance to talk about other countries and their freedoms. I've never been a fan of duplicity. If they don't want me to talk about "American" (Pro tip: America is the continent with many other countries on it, USA is the country) freedoms, they shouldn't talk about Australian gun laws or freedom of speech.

Anyway, this thread took a really weird turn at some point.

My thoughts: A privately owned business shouldn't be made to give everyone (or anyone) a platform and if the free market doesn't like it, then the free market will find or make another platform. This is not censorship, censorship can only happen when the government gets involved. Nobody is entitled to access of a privately owned platform.

Also my thoughts: David Icke needs some serious professional help.

I'm out.
 
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Censorship is an action taken by governments
I've just hit the ignore button on that particular user. Cries if anyone who isn't from the USA talks about the USA, but then has the arrogance to talk about other countries and their freedoms. I've never been a fan of duplicity. If they don't want me to talk about "American" (Pro tip: America is the continent with many other countries on it, USA is the country) freedoms, they shouldn't talk about Australian gun laws or freedom of speech.

Anyway, this thread took a really weird turn at some point.

My thoughts: A privately owned business shouldn't be made to give everyone (or anyone) a platform and if the free market doesn't like it, then the free market will find or make another platform. This is not censorship, censorship can only happen when the government gets involved. Nobody is entitled to access of a privately owned platform.

Also my thoughts: David Icke needs some serious professional help.

I'm out.

Perfect summary
 

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"5G causes Covid19" is the propaganda, the story that Western govs are trying to frame around China.

On a side note.....

Give us the F*cking vaccine already, eugenicist Bill "Depopulation" Gates!!! Release the drugs, Melinda "NWO" Gates!
 

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