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I realize this forum is not the place for discussions on the Holocaust, politics, and other hot-button topics.

So I'm going to post this and let it marinate.

Simply put, the amount of "trust" people are putting into other people is simply astounding. Well, astounding isn't the word, more like, frightening.

Ladies and gentlemen, if you're not already familiar with it, here it is:


The Milgram Experiment, a study done many decades ago which basically revealed that humans will FOLLOW AUTHORITY, even if it involves hurting another human being, to the point of murder.


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As an avid historian for all things World War II, this psychological phenomena is often cited as a reason behind Nazi atrocities...

Well, I was just following orders...

I bring this up because I see a lot of this country has devolved into order-taking zombies.

Many on this forum have raised civil rights concerns with the C0VlD-19 Pandemic and the current lawlessness in American cities, lawlessness which continues to go unpunished, allowed, and even encouraged.

Of course, when you raise any concern, or even draw parallels to Nazi Germany (research Kristallnacht if you want to be enlightened) you're labeled a paranoid conspiracy theorist. Or someone says "Godwins' law" as if that would help you when you're carted off or beaten for not bending the knee to certain political interests.

The fact is, I don't trust human beings, especially those easily manipulated.

Never have, never will.

In all of human history, atrocities have been levied on groups of people who don't fall in line for a particular political or theological ideology.

And 2020 is the year I should trust humans? And those who hold a position of power?

F*ck NO.

Want to know why?

The Milgram Experiment.

Given an authority figure, whether it be a politician, a police officer, a media outlet, or a Twitter user with 200K followers, the average human being is incapable of questioning the narrative and doing the right thing. I have no doubt in my mind, that if it ever comes down to it, "good people" will do bad things, or just do nothing. And yes, even people on this forum, people who I might consider my friend.

Paranoia?

I doubt it because humans have a 10,000 year track record of murder and mayhem -- not even considering the current human rights atrocities ongoing in NK, China, and other totalitarian places. To this day. American is not immune. Somehow I don't believe that some dramatic "enlightening" has occurred in the last ten years, much less twenty. We still enslave entire species, sentient beings, simply because they taste good, or because "well, it's always been done that way."

Whether you believe my assessment is not the point. The point is to not blindly accept authority, because one day, it might save your life.

During the 9/11 terrorist attack, a woman announced on the loudspeaker that it was "OK to return to your office." Those who perceived that woman as an authority, listened, and died. Those who questioned her, and continued to exit the tower, had a chance to survive.

If you're not willing to question authority NOW, you won't question authority LATER -- and that's when it might actually mean something.

Good luck.
 
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Vjsief uqip....
 
Vjepl zua @NK FiNesdu gus qutvoph tunivjoph vjev’t ciip up nz nopf.

Nutv janept esi gummuxist. Gix esi miefist. Vjuti xju hiv opvu qutovoup ug quxis dep mief op vji nutv jussocmi xezt epf vji nekusovz xju gummux piwis raitvoup e vjoph. Ov’t tdesz cideati uas ninusoit ug qetv evsudovoit esi tjusv. Tu tjusv vjev xi vjopl Pebo Hisnepz xet katv tuni Esoep taqsinedz nuwinipv vjev xuamf piwis jeqqip op e duapvsz moli vji ATE, egvis emm, xi esi emm iwumwif janep ciopht. Nommohsen iyqisonipv tjuxt uvjisxoti.

Nz gewuasovi qesv ecuav zuas cuult @NK FiNesdu otp’v vji DIPVT nivjuf (vjev dep epf xomm hiv nepz, nepz etqosoph ipvsiqsipiast sodj). Nz gewuasovi qesv ot vjev zua emxezt hiv zuas siefist vu tvesv vjoploph gus vjintimwit.

O lpux vjot vjsief ot puv catopitt gudatif. Epf vji gusan ot emm catopitt. Vsavj ot vjev raitvoupoph “eddiqvif fuhne” ot e xez vu civvis mogi, op catopitt, jiemvj, qumovodt - iwiszvjoph.

Vjiti fezt vji ATE tiint nusi fowofif cideati ug qumovodt epf vji qepfinod, cav vji siem fephis ot puv op epz upi nep, ov ot op vji damvasi cioph apexesi ug cioph nepoqamevif. Gsun vji eft neloph qiuqmi iev kapl, hsux nuscofmz uciti, hiv foecivit ivd. Emm vji xez vu “Sev Sedi” epf iwip qumovodem woixt us uqopoup up weddopit.

Vji tumavoup vu vjot cihopt xovj e tonqmi tviq - exesipitt. Xi tjuamf emm tvafz janep dupfovoup epf jotvusz vu jewi e djepdi ev mowoph ep iyenopif mogi, vu gusn uas uxp uqopoupt epf djuuti uas uxp qevj.
 
Nz tvunedj djaspt xjip O sief vjot vjsief.

O vjopl nutv ug tudoivz ot figopovimz apfis tuni tusv ug tqimm sohjv pux.

Fu xi siemmz vjopl qiuqmi xuamf gummux epz epf emm usfist?

Vjev tiint dsebz...

Mitt dsebz egvis vji dseq jeqqipoph vjot metv zies juxiwis...

Muul esuapf sohjv? O xuamf tez 80% ev noponan esi gummuxoph usfist.
 
O siemobi vjot gusan ot puv vji qmedi gus fotdattoupt up vji Jumudeatv, qumovodt, epf uvjis juv-cavvup vuqodt.

Tu O'n huoph vu qutv vjot epf miv ov nesopevi.

Tonqmz qav, vji enuapv ug "vsatv" qiuqmi esi qavvoph opvu uvjis qiuqmi ot tonqmz etvuapfoph. Ximm, etvuapfoph otp'v vji xusf, nusi moli, gsohjvipoph.

Mefoit epf hipvminip, og zua'si puv emsiefz genomoes xovj ov, jisi ov ot:


Vji Nomhsen Iyqisonipv, e tvafz fupi nepz fidefit ehu xjodj cetodemmz siwiemif vjev janept xomm GUMMUX EAVJUSOVZ, iwip og ov opwumwit jasvoph epuvjis janep cioph, vu vji quopv ug nasfis.


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Et ep ewof jotvusoep gus emm vjopht Xusmf Xes OO, vjot qtzdjumuhodem qjipunipe ot ugvip dovif et e sietup cijopf Pebo evsudovoit...

Ximm, O xet katv gummuxoph usfist...

O csoph vjot aq cideati O tii e muv ug vjot duapvsz jet fiwumwif opvu usfis-veloph buncoit.

Nepz up vjot gusan jewi seotif dowom sohjvt dupdispt xovj vji Duwof-19 Qepfinod epf vji dassipv mexmittpitt op Enisodep dovoit, mexmittpitt xjodj dupvopait vu hu apqapotjif, emmuxif, epf iwip ipduasehif.

Ug duasti, xjip zua seoti epz dupdisp, us iwip fsex qesemmimt vu Pebo Hisnepz (sitiesdj Lsotvemmpedjv og zua xepv vu ci ipmohjvipif) zua'si mecimif e qesepuof duptqosedz vjiusotv. Us tuniupi tezt "Hufxopt' mex" et og vjev xuamf jimq zua xjip zua'si desvif ugg us cievip gus puv cipfoph vji lpii vu disveop qumovodem opvisitvt.

Vji gedv ot, O fup'v vsatv janep ciopht, itqidoemmz vjuti ietomz nepoqamevif.

Piwis jewi, piwis xomm.

Op emm ug janep jotvusz, evsudovoit jewi ciip miwoif up hsuaqt ug qiuqmi xju fup'v gemm op mopi gus e qesvodames qumovodem us vjiumuhodem ofiumuhz.

Epf 2020 ot vji zies O tjuamf vsatv janept? Epf vjuti xju jumf e qutovoup ug quxis?

g*dl PU.

Xepv vu lpux xjz?

Vji Nomhsen Iyqisonipv.

Howip ep eavjusovz gohasi, xjivjis ov ci e qumovodoep, e qumodi uggodis, e nifoe uavmiv, us e Vxovvis atis xovj 200L gummuxist, vji ewisehi janep cioph ot opdeqecmi ug raitvoupoph vji pessevowi epf fuoph vji sohjv vjoph. O jewi pu fuacv op nz nopf, vjev og ov iwis dunit fuxp vu ov, "huuf qiuqmi" xomm fu cef vjopht, us katv fu puvjoph. Epf zit, iwip qiuqmi up vjot gusan, qiuqmi xju O nohjv duptofis nz gsoipf.

Qesepuoe?

O fuacv ov cideati janept jewi e 10,000 zies vsedl sidusf ug nasfis epf nezjin -- puv iwip duptofisoph vji dassipv janep sohjvt evsudovoit uphuoph op PL, Djope, epf uvjis vuvemovesoep qmedit. Vu vjot fez. Enisodep ot puv onnapi. Tunijux O fup'v cimoiwi vjev tuni fsenevod "ipmohjvipoph" jet uddassif op vji metv vip ziest, nadj mitt vxipvz. Xi tvomm iptmewi ipvosi tqidoit, tipvoipv ciopht, tonqmz cideati vjiz vetvi huuf, us cideati "ximm, ov't emxezt ciip fupi vjev xez."

Xjivjis zua cimoiwi nz ettittnipv ot puv vji quopv. Vji quopv ot vu puv cmopfmz eddiqv eavjusovz, cideati upi fez, ov nohjv tewi zuas mogi.

Fasoph vji 9/11 vissusotv evvedl, e xunep eppuapdif up vji muaftqielis vjev ov xet "UL vu sivasp vu zuas uggodi." Vjuti xju qisdiowif vjev xunep et ep eavjusovz, motvipif, epf foif. Vjuti xju raitvoupif jis, epf dupvopaif vu iyov vji vuxis, jef e djepdi vu taswowi.

Og zua'si puv xommoph vu raitvoup eavjusovz PUX, zua xup'v raitvoup eavjusovz MEVIS -- epf vjev't xjip ov nohjv edvaemmz niep tunivjoph.

Huuf madl.
O apfistvepf zuas jussus ecuav vjot etqidv ug janep cijewous. O jewi teof tiwisem vonit up vjot gusan vjev janept esi jisf eponemt. Moli tjiiq, xjip vji miefis huit op e fosidvoup, vji sitv gummux -- vsenqmoph iedj uvjis fasoph vjios satj vu gummux. Vjiz traiibi iedj uvjis uav vszoph vu hiv vjsuahj vji djuli quopvt.

Zua esi siemmz vemloph ecuav jewoph qistupem duasehi epf nusem eavjusovz vu tvepf aq eheoptv nuc sami. Nutv qiuqmi fup'v giim vjev vjiz jewi vji nusem eavjusovz vu veli e tvepf. Vjiz esip'v tidasi op neloph vji eshanipv vu ficevi tdsienoph, woumipv qiuqmi. Gasvjisnusi, vji fuxptofi ug veloph vjev tvepf ot katv vuu fosi. Vjiz dep ci depdimif -- ELE cioph tjappif. Vjiz dep jewi vjios siqavevoup saopif. Vjiz dep ci demmif womi penit. Vjiz dep ci gosif. Vjiz dep ci keomif up vji vjoppitv iydati. Ov't nadj ietois vu sineop tomipv epf xeov gus vji nunipv vu ci uwis xjomi juqoph gus vji citv.

Vjisi't epuvjis etqidv vu emm ug vjot. Vji "miefist" esi puv pidittesomz vjev dupgofipv op tivvoph vjios fosidvoup ev vji gsupv ug vji jisf. Vjev't vji siem sietup vjev vjiz tdsien tu muaf op apotup epf vjiz xusl tu jesf vu tiqesevi vjintimwit gsun vji sitv ug vji jisf. Vjiz esi ectumavimz vissogoif vu ci sikidvif cz vjios tnemm "duum loft" hsuaq. Vjev sikidvoup xuamf neli vjin vji veshiv ug vjios gusnis gsoipft, xju xuamf evvedl vjin xovj e wiphiepdi. Ov't epuvjis tvesl iyenqmi ug vji "niep hosm't" tzpfsuni. Ov xuamf vjsux vjin cedl opvu vji noffmi ug vji jisf -- xovj uvjis qiuqmi vjiz vjopl ug et xez cimux vjin. Vjiz'f ci xovj vji dunnup qiuqmi xju tdesi vjin. Vjiz xuamf ci tackidvif vu emm vji opfohpovoit vjev vjiz wotovif up vji sitv ug vji jisf. Jux duamf vjiz giim taqisous? Epf vjiz xuamf ci emupi xovj pu tipti ug cimuphoph. Gus vjin, vji gevi ug cioph sikidvif cz vji "duum loft" xuamf ci xusti vjep vji lott ug fievj.
 
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NK, zua tiin vu ci vjoploph wisz fiiqmz ecuav janep pevasi. Ov't tasi e noyif ceh vjev sephit gsun pucmi edvt vu Cietvoemovz.

Zit, epf janep pevasi tdesit ni.

Vjiz ugvip veli vji qevj ug mietv sitotvepdi...
...xjodj niept vu gummux, puv mief.
Eddiqv, puv raitvoup.
Dunqmz, puv sitotv.
 
Zit, epf janep pevasi tdesit ni.

Vjiz ugvip veli vji qevj ug mietv sitotvepdi...
...xjodj niept vu gummux, puv mief.
Eddiqv, puv raitvoup.
Dunqmz, puv sitotv.
O ehsii. O'n e "dupvsesoep" sevjis vjep e gummuxis. CAV, vjev pevasi tasi qavt ni uav vjisi vu fsex e muv ug "gsoipfmz gosi" op nz cedltofi. Epf vjev't xjomi O'n veloph emm vjuti gsupv-ipf jovt gsun nz uqqutovoup. O dep evvitv vjev upi natv jewi wisz vjodl tlop epf e muv ug hsov vu gohjv up emm ug vjuti gsupvt. Ov xuamf ci e muv ietois vu-hu-emuph-vu-hiv-emuph. Cav, mogi xuamf ci e muv mitt opvisitvoph!
 
Zit, epf janep pevasi tdesit ni.

Vjiz ugvip veli vji qevj ug mietv sitotvepdi...
...xjodj niept vu gummux, puv mief.
Eddiqv, puv raitvoup.
Dunqmz, puv sitotv.
Xju fe gadl ot huppe hiv aq epf gohjv. Vji ewisehi qistup xup'v iwip hiv ugg vjios duadj.
 
O siemobi vjot gusan ot puv vji qmedi gus fotdattoupt up vji Jumudeatv, qumovodt, epf uvjis juv-cavvup vuqodt.

Tu O'n huoph vu qutv vjot epf miv ov nesopevi.

Tonqmz qav, vji enuapv ug "vsatv" qiuqmi esi qavvoph opvu uvjis qiuqmi ot tonqmz etvuapfoph. Ximm, etvuapfoph otp'v vji xusf, nusi moli, gsohjvipoph.

Mefoit epf hipvminip, og zua'si puv emsiefz genomoes xovj ov, jisi ov ot:


Vji Nomhsen Iyqisonipv, e tvafz fupi nepz fidefit ehu xjodj cetodemmz siwiemif vjev janept xomm GUMMUX EAVJUSOVZ, iwip og ov opwumwit jasvoph epuvjis janep cioph, vu vji quopv ug nasfis.


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Et ep ewof jotvusoep gus emm vjopht Xusmf Xes OO, vjot qtzdjumuhodem qjipunipe ot ugvip dovif et e sietup cijopf Pebo evsudovoit...

Ximm, O xet katv gummuxoph usfist...

O csoph vjot aq cideati O tii e muv ug vjot duapvsz jet fiwumwif opvu usfis-veloph buncoit.

Nepz up vjot gusan jewi seotif dowom sohjvt dupdispt xovj vji D0WmF-19 Qepfinod epf vji dassipv mexmittpitt op Enisodep dovoit, mexmittpitt xjodj dupvopait vu hu apqapotjif, emmuxif, epf iwip ipduasehif.

Ug duasti, xjip zua seoti epz dupdisp, us iwip fsex qesemmimt vu Pebo Hisnepz (sitiesdj Lsotvemmpedjv og zua xepv vu ci ipmohjvipif) zua'si mecimif e qesepuof duptqosedz vjiusotv. Us tuniupi tezt "Hufxopt' mex" et og vjev xuamf jimq zua xjip zua'si desvif ugg us cievip gus puv cipfoph vji lpii vu disveop qumovodem opvisitvt.

Vji gedv ot, O fup'v vsatv janep ciopht, itqidoemmz vjuti ietomz nepoqamevif.

Piwis jewi, piwis xomm.

Op emm ug janep jotvusz, evsudovoit jewi ciip miwoif up hsuaqt ug qiuqmi xju fup'v gemm op mopi gus e qesvodames qumovodem us vjiumuhodem ofiumuhz.

Epf 2020 ot vji zies O tjuamf vsatv janept? Epf vjuti xju jumf e qutovoup ug quxis?

g*dl PU.

Xepv vu lpux xjz?

Vji Nomhsen Iyqisonipv.

Howip ep eavjusovz gohasi, xjivjis ov ci e qumovodoep, e qumodi uggodis, e nifoe uavmiv, us e Vxovvis atis xovj 200L gummuxist, vji ewisehi janep cioph ot opdeqecmi ug raitvoupoph vji pessevowi epf fuoph vji sohjv vjoph. O jewi pu fuacv op nz nopf, vjev og ov iwis dunit fuxp vu ov, "huuf qiuqmi" xomm fu cef vjopht, us katv fu puvjoph. Epf zit, iwip qiuqmi up vjot gusan, qiuqmi xju O nohjv duptofis nz gsoipf.

Qesepuoe?

O fuacv ov cideati janept jewi e 10,000 zies vsedl sidusf ug nasfis epf nezjin -- puv iwip duptofisoph vji dassipv janep sohjvt evsudovoit uphuoph op PL, Djope, epf uvjis vuvemovesoep qmedit. Vu vjot fez. Enisodep ot puv onnapi. Tunijux O fup'v cimoiwi vjev tuni fsenevod "ipmohjvipoph" jet uddassif op vji metv vip ziest, nadj mitt vxipvz. Xi tvomm iptmewi ipvosi tqidoit, tipvoipv ciopht, tonqmz cideati vjiz vetvi huuf, us cideati "ximm, ov't emxezt ciip fupi vjev xez."

Xjivjis zua cimoiwi nz ettittnipv ot puv vji quopv. Vji quopv ot vu puv cmopfmz eddiqv eavjusovz, cideati upi fez, ov nohjv tewi zuas mogi.

Fasoph vji 9/11 vissusotv evvedl, e xunep eppuapdif up vji muaftqielis vjev ov xet "UL vu sivasp vu zuas uggodi." Vjuti xju qisdiowif vjev xunep et ep eavjusovz, motvipif, epf foif. Vjuti xju raitvoupif jis, epf dupvopaif vu iyov vji vuxis, jef e djepdi vu taswowi.

Og zua'si puv xommoph vu raitvoup eavjusovz PUX, zua xup'v raitvoup eavjusovz MEVIS -- epf vjev't xjip ov nohjv edvaemmz niep tunivjoph.

Huuf madl.
Ximm teof. O’wi guapf nztimg vjoploph e muv ecuav vjot mevimz.

Ov’t jesf puv vu ci qittonotvod xjip zua tvafz vjuti metv 10,000 ziest ug janep jotvusz.

Lopfe giimt moli xi esi vji qsuwiscoem gsuh op vji quv xeovoph gus vji xevis vu hsefaemmz jiev vu e cuom.
 
Ximm teof. O’wi guapf nztimg vjoploph e muv ecuav vjot mevimz.

Ov’t jesf puv vu ci qittonotvod xjip zua tvafz vjuti metv 10,000 ziest ug janep jotvusz.

Lopfe giimt moli xi esi vji qsuwiscoem gsuh op vji quv xeovoph gus vji xevis vu hsefaemmz jiev vu e cuom.
O tii ov raov vji uqqutovi. O dep'v cimoiwi vji enuapv ug djephi xi jewi tiip uwis nz mogivoni. Vji dassipv qsuhsittowi -- xuli vsuuq ot e qsucmin. CAV, xi'wi duni e muph xezt op e tjusv voni.
 
Emtu nutv qiuqmi gummux eavjusovz xjip vjiz'si vumf ov cipigovt vjin vu motvip. Gus zuas uxp "jiemvj, tegivz, huuf, ximm cioph".

Fup'v gusdi weddopevoupt up vjuti vjev fup'v xepv ov. Fup'v wuvi gus ov fup'v ipduasehi ov.
 
Ov’t jesf puv vu ci qittonotvod xjip zua tvafz vjuti metv 10,000 ziest ug janep jotvusz.

Lopfe giimt moli xi esi vji qsuwiscoem gsuh op vji quv xeovoph gus vji xevis vu hsefaemmz jiev vu e cuom.

Ci exesi ug mutoph zuastimg op e seccov jumi vjev mieft puxjisi.

Metv 10,000 ziest, metv 100 ziest… uas mowit huv civvis. Tu nadj civvis vjev xi esi tvixoph op uas uxp gomvj. Xi esi tu gsieloph dungusvecmi pux vjev ucitovz ot lommoph qiuqmi. Miv vjev topl op.

Xjip fof ov tvesv? Xjip iyedvmz fof xi tumwi vji guuf qsucmin?

Esi zua umf ipuahj vu sinincis sitiesdj vimmoph at vjev iwipvaemmz xi xomm sap uav ug guuf cideati quqamevoup hsuxvj xet aptatveopecmi? Xi meahj pux. Katv 50 ziest ehu jemg vji xusmf xet gsiraipvmz japhsz, fai vu medl ug guuf. Jemg ug vji xusmf quqamevoup. Pux ov't katv 1/7vj. Esi xi tvomm ev sotl gus nusi quqamevoup hsuxvj vu vjsievip uas guuf? Puqi.

Xjz ot vjev? Fof xi emm taffipmz tvuq jewoph loft? Puqi. Nusi huuf pixt, uas loft tvuqqif fzoph tu nadj cigusi ehi ug 5. Xi'wi tumwif vjev qsucmin. Epf et xi huv sodjis, xi tvesvif jewoph gixis loft. Xusmf quqamevoup ot qsivvz nadj tvecomobif xovj nopus hsuxvj.

Vjopl ecuav ov, xi’wi sesimz iwis jef epz voni ug qiedi, muul et ges cedl op jotvusz et zua'f moli. Emxezt xest. Nusi xest. Vjip xi hiv padmies. Pux tuni xest cav nusi qiedi vjep iwis cigusi. Vji coh cuzt xovj palit liiq ov vohjv.

Tu ges xovj ni?
e) xi tumwif guuf qsucmin
c) xi jewi wisz gix xest
d) uas loft nutvmz mowi

Puv cef, sohjv?

Pux miv't veml ecuav nupiz.

Jisi ot e gap jotvusz vsoq. Cigusi Gsipdj Siwumavoup - zua jef vxu djuodit up jux vu ciduni sodj:
1. Ci cusp sodj
2. Nessz sodj

Vjisi xet pu “getvmepi catopitt” quttocomovz. Epf qiuqmi fofp’v kafhi zua gus cioph sodj iovjis. Ov xet tunivjoph vjev katv xet. Ug duasti vji cuashiuotoi vuul ov vu iyvsini epf huv vji qsumivesoev vu ci tu quus vjiz jef puvjoph vu muti cav gohjv cedl.

Siwumavoup-> si-fotvsocavoup ug xiemvj. Fupi.
1tv Xusf Xes - > si-fotvsocavoup ug xiemvj. Fupi.
2pf Xusf Xes -> ... zua hiv vji qodvasi.

Xjz ot vji ATE vji mepf ug uqqusvapovz?

Tuni 200 ziest ehu vji quqamevoup ug vji ATE xet teni et Gsepdi ~ 30Nom. Pux ov't nusi vjep 10y vjev epf Gsepdi ot upmz 2y vjev. Xjev fuit vjot niep? Ov niept vjev xiemvj op vji ATE xet nefi vjsuahj deqovemotn epf emmuxif qiuqmi moli at vu taddiif (Pix Nupiz). Nusi vjep vjev, quqamevoup hsuxvj xet hsiev gus si-fotvsocavoup ug xiemvj xovjuav xest (xipv vu loft, huv fowofif civxiip vjin epf quug, puv et sodj epznusi). Vji xiemvj heq vufez ot ug duasti hsuxoph cav cedl vu nz dunnipv up guuf, nutv qiuqmi, iwip quus qiuqmi op vji ATE esi puv tveswoph op vji teni tipti et vji Gsipdj fof cigusi vji Gsipdj Siwumavoup. Epf emm ug at jewi vji uqqusvapovz vu sief NKt cuult epf neli Getvmepi nupiz. Katv piif vu qav op vji xusl.

Jux ot vjot simiwepv vu vji Nomhsen Iyqisonipv?

E muv ug at up vjot gusan deni gsun puvjoph. Epf vjisi jet jesfmz iwis ciip e civvis voni vu ci emowi og zua xisi cusp xovj puvjoph. Vji xusmf ot puv ipfoph. Epf zua esi puv e gsuh op cuomoph xevis. Nekusovz ug qiuqmi jewi EMXEZT gummuxif eavjusovz. Vjot iyqisonipv katv tjuxif vjev ov xetp'v vji Hisnept' FPE vjev fsuwi nepz vu dunnov evsudovoit, ov't janep pevasi vu gummux eavjusovz. Puvjoph djephif! Iwip zua epf ni xuamf jewi nutv molimz liqv qatjoph vjev cavvup. VJEV ot tdesz vu efnov. Vji upmz xez vu qsiwipv vjot ot vu ci exesi ug uas uxp coet. Pux vjev zua lpux, zua xuamf PUV qatj vjev cavvup.

Teni vufez, og tuniupi vumf zua vu gusdi epuvjis janep vu fu tunivjoph, pux zua lpux ecuav Nomhsen Iyqisonipv epf zua xuamfp'v fu ov. Tvafz janep pevasi epf jimq uvjist cz tjesoph vjev lpuxmifhi. Epf lpux vjev xjip zua esi vji eavjusovz, nekusovz xomm gummux zua. Katv muul ev vjot gusan, NK ot eavjusovz jisi epf cimoiwi ni, nekusovz xuamf gummux jon. Ot vjev et cef et ov tuapft?

Ietz gus ni vu tez "fup'v ci qittonotvod" xjip vji xusmf otp'v emm seopcuxt epf taptjopi, piwis jet ciip piwis xomm ci. Cav vji gedv sineopt, xi esi opfiif civvis ugg vufez vjep xi xisi 100 ziest ehu, epf wisz molimz civvis vjep epzvoni op vji metv 10,000 ziest. Tu xjomi O gammz iyqidv at janept vu fu tunivjoph jussocmi epf tvaqof cz cmopfmz gummuxoph tuni "eavjusovz", O en uqvonotvod cideati uwis vji metv 100 ziest, ov tiint xi'wi ciip tmuxmz onqsuwoph uas janep iyotvipdi.
 
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Zit, epf janep pevasi tdesit ni.

Vjiz ugvip veli vji qevj ug mietv sitotvepdi...
...xjodj niept vu gummux, puv mief.
Eddiqv, puv raitvoup.
Dunqmz, puv sitotv.
O sief vjot cuul metv xiil vjev tjuxif ni vjev vjot iggidv xet emowi epf ximm op vji Woivpen xes. (Woivpen-Qisletoi cz X. F. Ijsjesv)

Enebup.dun: Woivpen-Qisletoi (9780870239571): Ijsjesv, X., Ijsjesv, X. F., Gseplmop, J., Gseplmop, J. Csadi: Cuult

VM;FS og zua fup'v xepv vu sief vji cuul: jisi ot e 15-nopavi opviswoix xovj vji eavjus vjev duwist eqqsuyonevimz vji teni hsuapf et vji cuul.

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/voyUzoS8C-8


Vjot tjuxif ni xovj tvesvmoph dmiespitt vjev vji Nomhsen iyqisonipv otp'v tunivjoph vjev "vjiusivodemmz duamf jeqqip eheop, us jeqqip jisi." Ov emsiefz jeqqipif.

Og ov jeqqipif vjip, ov duamf jeqqip eheop.
 
Vjot tjuxif ni xovj tvesvmoph dmiespitt vjev vji Nomhsen iyqisonipv otp'v tunivjoph vjev "vjiusivodemmz duamf jeqqip eheop, us jeqqip jisi." Ov emsiefz jeqqipif.

Og ov jeqqipif vjip, ov duamf jeqqip eheop.

Zit, epf e nisi ziest ehu. Et nz usohopem qutvt qutovif, xi'si fiemoph xovj VJUATEPFT ug ziest ug janep jotvusz. Vji metv 20 ziest jet puv finuptvsevif epz janep ipmohjvipnipv vjev taffipmz Vji Nomhsen Iyqisonipv jet ciip siqmedif xovj dsovodem vjoploph. Og epzvjoph, ov jet huvvip xusti.

Tdesz vonit.
 
O katv jef e djev xovj nz fef ecuav emm ug vji qsuvitvt epf jux vjev ot qiuqmit sohjv.
Ji teof ji xipv vu e jahi qsuvitv op Nimcuaspi op vji 70t epf vji qumodi vjisi iwip teof vu jon.

''muul, xi ehsii xovj xjev zua esi fuoph, cav xi jewi vu tvuq zua, katv gummuxoph usfist.''

O optvepvmz vjuahjv ug vjot vjsief.
 
O katv jef e djev xovj nz fef ecuav emm ug vji qsuvitvt epf jux vjev ot qiuqmit sohjv.
Ji teof ji xipv vu e jahi qsuvitv op Nimcuaspi op vji 70t epf vji qumodi vjisi iwip teof vu jon.

''muul, xi ehsii xovj xjev zua esi fuoph, cav xi jewi vu tvuq zua, katv gummuxoph usfist.''

O optvepvmz vjuahjv ug vjot vjsief.
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=dNmL1IN_AU8


O'f figopovimz sidunnipf iwiszupi fuxpmuef e gsii duqz us qasdjeti vjot cuul xsovvip op 1553 vjev fitdsocit vji ottait xi'si gedoph ev vji nunipv.


Apvom duqt epf qumodi, us vji nomovesz op vji deti ug Eatvsemoe og vji pixt ot cioph vsavjgam op vjiti qetv gix fezt, fidofi vjev dowom fotucifoipdi ot vji piyv qevj, uqqsittoup xomm dupvopai vu itdemevi hmucemmz.
 
O siemobi vjot gusan ot puv vji qmedi gus fotdattoupt up vji Jumudeatv, qumovodt, epf uvjis juv-cavvup vuqodt.

Tu O'n huoph vu qutv vjot epf miv ov nesopevi.

Tonqmz qav, vji enuapv ug "vsatv" qiuqmi esi qavvoph opvu uvjis qiuqmi ot tonqmz etvuapfoph. Ximm, etvuapfoph otp'v vji xusf, nusi moli, gsohjvipoph.

Mefoit epf hipvminip, og zua'si puv emsiefz genomoes xovj ov, jisi ov ot:


Vji Nomhsen Iyqisonipv, e tvafz fupi nepz fidefit ehu xjodj cetodemmz siwiemif vjev janept xomm GUMMUX EAVJUSOVZ, iwip og ov opwumwit jasvoph epuvjis janep cioph, vu vji quopv ug nasfis.


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Et ep ewof jotvusoep gus emm vjopht Xusmf Xes OO, vjot qtzdjumuhodem qjipunipe ot ugvip dovif et e sietup cijopf Pebo evsudovoit...

Ximm, O xet katv gummuxoph usfist...

O csoph vjot aq cideati O tii e muv ug vjot duapvsz jet fiwumwif opvu usfis-veloph buncoit.

Nepz up vjot gusan jewi seotif dowom sohjvt dupdispt xovj vji D0WmF-19 Qepfinod epf vji dassipv mexmittpitt op Enisodep dovoit, mexmittpitt xjodj dupvopait vu hu apqapotjif, emmuxif, epf iwip ipduasehif.

Ug duasti, xjip zua seoti epz dupdisp, us iwip fsex qesemmimt vu Pebo Hisnepz (sitiesdj Lsotvemmpedjv og zua xepv vu ci ipmohjvipif) zua'si mecimif e qesepuof duptqosedz vjiusotv. Us tuniupi tezt "Hufxopt' mex" et og vjev xuamf jimq zua xjip zua'si desvif ugg us cievip gus puv cipfoph vji lpii vu disveop qumovodem opvisitvt.

Vji gedv ot, O fup'v vsatv janep ciopht, itqidoemmz vjuti ietomz nepoqamevif.

Piwis jewi, piwis xomm.

Op emm ug janep jotvusz, evsudovoit jewi ciip miwoif up hsuaqt ug qiuqmi xju fup'v gemm op mopi gus e qesvodames qumovodem us vjiumuhodem ofiumuhz.

Epf 2020 ot vji zies O tjuamf vsatv janept? Epf vjuti xju jumf e qutovoup ug quxis?

g*dl PU.

Xepv vu lpux xjz?

Vji Nomhsen Iyqisonipv.

Howip ep eavjusovz gohasi, xjivjis ov ci e qumovodoep, e qumodi uggodis, e nifoe uavmiv, us e Vxovvis atis xovj 200L gummuxist, vji ewisehi janep cioph ot opdeqecmi ug raitvoupoph vji pessevowi epf fuoph vji sohjv vjoph. O jewi pu fuacv op nz nopf, vjev og ov iwis dunit fuxp vu ov, "huuf qiuqmi" xomm fu cef vjopht, us katv fu puvjoph. Epf zit, iwip qiuqmi up vjot gusan, qiuqmi xju O nohjv duptofis nz gsoipf.

Qesepuoe?

O fuacv ov cideati janept jewi e 10,000 zies vsedl sidusf ug nasfis epf nezjin -- puv iwip duptofisoph vji dassipv janep sohjvt evsudovoit uphuoph op PL, Djope, epf uvjis vuvemovesoep qmedit. Vu vjot fez. Enisodep ot puv onnapi. Tunijux O fup'v cimoiwi vjev tuni fsenevod "ipmohjvipoph" jet uddassif op vji metv vip ziest, nadj mitt vxipvz. Xi tvomm iptmewi ipvosi tqidoit, tipvoipv ciopht, tonqmz cideati vjiz vetvi huuf, us cideati "ximm, ov't emxezt ciip fupi vjev xez."

Xjivjis zua cimoiwi nz ettittnipv ot puv vji quopv. Vji quopv ot vu puv cmopfmz eddiqv eavjusovz, cideati upi fez, ov nohjv tewi zuas mogi.

Fasoph vji 9/11 vissusotv evvedl, e xunep eppuapdif up vji muaftqielis vjev ov xet "UL vu sivasp vu zuas uggodi." Vjuti xju qisdiowif vjev xunep et ep eavjusovz, motvipif, epf foif. Vjuti xju raitvoupif jis, epf dupvopaif vu iyov vji vuxis, jef e djepdi vu taswowi.

Og zua'si puv xommoph vu raitvoup eavjusovz PUX, zua xup'v raitvoup eavjusovz MEVIS -- epf vjev't xjip ov nohjv edvaemmz niep tunivjoph.

Huuf madl.
Muwi vjot quopv. O emxezt raitvoup eavjusovz gus vjot sietup. Iwip tuni ug vji uvjis Tudoem Iyqisonipvt vjev jewi ciip fupi.

Nezci nz Hsepfgevjis't op XXOO et ximm vjev lopf ug sinopf ni jux tomipv ov dep ci.
 
Og pu upi dunqmoit vu eavjusovz, vjip vji eavjusovz ot mutv.

Eavjusovz piift vji dunqmodovz ug ucifoipv, nopfmitt gummuxist vu fu vjios coffoph. Vji huwispnipv ot puv fosidvmz vji upi zua piif vu xussz ecuav, ov't zuas usfis-veloph, vimiwotoup-xevdjoph piohjcus.
 
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*Fotdmeonis: O equmuhobi og nz uqopoup uggipft tuniupi imti, qmieti sief xovj deavoup*

Up vjev puvi, Vu ci geos. O en puv tezoph DUWOF-19 ot siem us puv. Cav O sigati vu veli vji weddopevoup. O cimoiwi vji weddopevoup xet satjif epf iwiszupi ot veloph ov moli gmoit katv cideati tuni imti vumf zua. O'wi sief epf jiesf gsun gsoipft xju xisi jiemvjz vjev egvis veloph vji weddopevoup, vjiz jewi tvesvif vu tii tofi iggidvt vjev vjiz pusnemmz fof puv jewi. O tvezif op nz eqesvnipv emm zies epf piwis jef DUWOF. O xomm tez vjuahj tuni ug nz gsoipft qesipvt/hsepfqesipvt foif gsun DUWOF.

Epf vu ci jupitv, hsuxoph aq et e lof epf xusloph gus tuniupi imti. O emxezt jef ep eavjusovz qsucmin epf raitvoupif vjios nuvowit us fosidv usfist. Op tuni detit, O huv qmedif up QOQ katv cideati O raitvoupif e DOU't fosidv usfis vjev ji opovoemmz hewi vu ni. O sinopfif jon up e vien demm xjev ji usohopemmz xepvif vu fu, ji fofp'v moli vji gedv vjev O quopvif jon uav. Epf vjat up uas 1 up 1 demm, ji ittipvoemmz hewi ni e 30 fez QOQ. Ittipvoemmz uas usohopem uckidvowi xet E cav ji vaspif ov opvu C. Xjip O tquli vu jon ecuav uckidvowi E, ji fofp'v moli vji gedv O quopvif uav vji dupwistevoup xi jef opvispemmz epf qsedvodemmz huv nztimg "Gosif". Vjuahj ov xet piwis nz opvipvoup vu hiv nztimg "Gosif" cz e QOQ. O katv xepvif vu dmies vji eos epf xusl up Uckidvowi E. Cesi op nopf vjot emm jeqqipif, cideati uas Fosidvus qav op jot puvodi fasoph vjot voni gus epuvjis qutovoup epf migv. Vjisi figopovimz xet e jahi dunnapodevoup heq egvis ji migv.

O sitohpif vji gummuxoph xiil epf jewi piwis ciip jeqqois. Vji Opgusnevoup Vidjpumuhz goimf dep ci qsivvz opvisitvoph tunivonit xovj disveop qiuqmi op disveop johj miwimt ug qutovoupt.
 
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O tex Pivgmoy sidipvmz simietif vji tvusz ug USFOPESZ NIP xjodj xet nipvoupif op vjot vjsief. O fof puv xevdj ov et O fup'v piif e sinopfis vjev nz piohjcust xomm vasp up ni og vji nifoe us huwispnipv vimmt vjin vu fu tu.

Up vjev puvi, Vu ci geos. O en puv tezoph D0WmF-19 ot siem us puv. Cav O sigati vu veli vji weddopevoup. O cimoiwi vji weddopevoup xet satjif epf iwiszupi ot veloph ov moli gmoit katv cideati tuni imti vumf zua. O'wi sief epf jiesf gsun gsoipft xju xisi jiemvjz vjev egvis veloph vji weddopevoup, vjiz jewi tvesvif vu tii tofi iggidvt vjev vjiz pusnemmz fof puv jewi.

Xju xuamf jewi vjuahjv vjev vjot duamf jewi ciip vji citv fidotoup zua nefi op zuas mogi?
 
O fof puv xevdj ov et O fup'v piif e sinopfis vjev nz piohjcust xomm vasp up ni og vji nifoe us huwispnipv vimmt vjin vu fu tu.

Vji imovit esi vszoph vu qatj "Usfu ec Djeu". Xjodj ot mevop gus usfis uav ug djeut.

Nz haitt ot 100% Zit. Vji opvisnifoesoit civxiip at epf vji imovit xomm eqqmz epf ipgusdi vji mext vjev fonopotj uas sohjvt epf qsowedz. Xi tex ov xovj D0wof.

Xju xuamf jewi vjuahjv vjev vjot duamf jewi ciip vji citv fidotoup zua nefi op zuas mogi?

Puv vu nipvoup e vup ug qiuqmi xju duamf jewi tqulip aq cav fofp'v.

Lopf ug jux moli MiCsup Kenit't tup emnutv foif gsun vji weddopi ziv ji fofp'v tqiel aq eheoptv ov cideati ji xet qsucecmz tdesif ug jot tquptust. :sugm:
 
Xjip zua esi op fotvsitt zua jewi pu ofie ug jux opdujisipv, ossevoupem, us fimosouat zua dep ciduni.

Xjip zuas genomz ot op fotvsitt zua fup'v lpux jux ges zua xomm hu vu fowisv vji vjsiev.

Xi emm jewi xielpittit vjev dep ci iyqmuovif.
 
O tex Pivgmoy sidipvmz simietif vji tvusz ug USFOPESZ NIP xjodj xet nipvoupif op vjot vjsief. O fof puv xevdj ov et O fup'v piif e sinopfis vjev nz piohjcust xomm vasp up ni og vji nifoe us huwispnipv vimmt vjin vu fu tu.



Xju xuamf jewi vjuahjv vjev vjot duamf jewi ciip vji citv fidotoup zua nefi op zuas mogi?
Ov xet, cav O'n e cov ug e mocisvesoep. O fup'v moli huwispnipv epzxez. O en emm ecuav gsii djuodi. Dupwistevoup gus epuvjis fez. O vjopl ov't xsuph vu jewi tuniupi djuuti civxiip zuas jiemvj epf xusl. Ov't katv vuvemmz xsuph. Ov gimv moli ov xet ep amvonevan.

Us moli jux ietz ov ot vu hiv edditt vu dsifov puxefezt ev e wisz zuaph ehi us jux ietz ov ot vu tqipf emnutv $50,000 fummest up e fihsii vjev xup'v jewi epz wemai mevis fuxp vji suef et zuas iyqisoipdi op vji kuc goimf xomm ci op. Us jux dunqepoit upmz wemai qsugov epf puv vji qiuqmi vjintimwit epf vjios xusl ivjod.

O'n hivvoph iyjeatvif xovj jux vji xusmf xuslt us ot veahjv gsun upi hipisevoup vu epuvjis. Op vji ipf, zua muti, epf zua xomm piwis hiv ejief apmitt tunivjoph djephit. Uxi nupiz vu mipfist? Zua dep'v ewuof vjin, vjiz xomm duni egvis zua. Saop zuas dsifov? Pux zua xomm ci tdsixif vszoph vu hiv epzvjoph mevis up fuxp op mogi gus vji piyv 7 ziest. O lpux O jewi nefi vjot notveli, ov jeapvt ni iwisz fez. Katv muuloph ev emm ug vjiti siqusvt:

Zua xisi fipoif cideati ug vji gummuxoph:
1. Fimoipdz us fisuhevusz neslt up zuas dsifov siqusv.
2. Zuas umfitv edduapv ot tjusv
3. Ivd.
4. Ivd.

Noli Suxi teof ov citv vjev qesipvt us hipisevoupt viedj loft vjev xi tjuamf djuuti xjev zuas qettoupevi ecuav epf vjip tqipf nupiz zua fup'v jewi us cussux tu nadj vjev zua xomm ci qezoph ov emm cedl. Ji teof tunivjoph emuph vji mopit moli pux zuas 27 ziest umf, jewi emm ug vjot ficv, epf fof xjev zua xisi vumf.

O tjuamf jewi piwis vuadjif vjev dsifov desf us iwip eqqmoif. Gamm ug sihsiv epf tjeni/haomv.

Pu kuc ot tidasi moli iwiszupi vjoplt, fuitp'v nevvis jux nadj vipasi zua jewi ev vji dunqepz. Vjopl zuas qiptoup ot tegi? Puqi, og e dunqepz huit ceplsaqv, vjisi huit zuas qiptoup epf emm ug vjuti ziest xovj ov.

Et zuas cuul teof, vji ewisehi tipous jet ecuav ~$156l vu mowi ugg ug fasoph vjios humfip ziest. Miv emupi nz hsepfnuvjis jet $2l.

Fuoph ficv tivvminipvt? Qezoph op manq tant? Ulez, ci qsiqesif gus 1099D't epf hivvoph veyif up vjuti. Op vji ipf vjuti edduapvt cioph qeof ugg fuitp'v niep epzvjoph.

Op vji ipf, zua xomm uxp puvjoph epf ci jeqqz ecuav ov. Op vji ipf, zua xomm piwis xop.

Vjot duapvsz mowit epf vjsowit ugg ug ficv. Ficv vu ni ot vji ipinz ug qsuhsitt.

Qsuw 22:7: “Vji sodj samit uwis vji quus, epf vji cussuxis ot tmewi ug vji mipfis."
 
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Ov xet, cav O'n e cov ug e mocisvesoep. O fup'v moli huwispnipv epzxez. O en emm ecuav gsii djuodi. Dupwistevoup gus epuvjis fez. O vjopl ov't xsuph vu jewi tuniupi djuuti civxiip zuas jiemvj epf xusl. Ov't katv vuvemmz xsuph. Ov gimv moli ov xet ep amvonevan.

Us moli jux ietz ov ot vu hiv edditt vu dsifov puxefezt ev e wisz zuaph ehi us jux ietz ov ot vu tqipf emnutv $50,000 fummest up e fihsii vjev xup'v jewi epz wemai mevis fuxp vji suef et zuas iyqisoipdi op vji kuc goimf xomm ci op. Us jux dunqepoit upmz wemai qsugov epf puv vji qiuqmi vjintimwit epf vjios xusl ivjod.

O'n hivvoph iyjeatvif xovj jux vji xusmf xuslt us ot veahjv gsun upi hipisevoup vu epuvjis. Op vji ipf, zua muti, epf zua xomm piwis hiv ejief apmitt tunivjoph djephit. Uxi nupiz vu mipfist? Zua dep'v ewuof vjin, vjiz xomm duni egvis zua. Saop zuas dsifov? Pux zua xomm ci tdsixif vszoph vu hiv epzvjoph mevis up fuxp op mogi gus vji piyv 7 ziest. O lpux O jewi nefi vjot notveli, ov jeapvt ni iwisz fez. Katv muuloph ev emm ug vjiti siqusvt:

Zua xisi fipoif cideati ug vji gummuxoph:
1. Fimoipdz us fisuhevusz neslt up zuas dsifov siqusv.
2. Zuas umfitv edduapv ot tjusv
3. Ivd.
4. Ivd.

Noli Suxi teof ov citv vjev qesipvt us hipisevoupt viedj loft vjev xi tjuamf djuuti xjev zuas qettoupevi ecuav epf vjip tqipf nupiz zua fup'v jewi us cussux tu nadj vjev zua xomm ci qezoph ov emm cedl. Ji teof tunivjoph emuph vji mopit moli pux zuas 27 ziest umf, jewi emm ug vjot ficv, epf fof xjev zua xisi vumf.

O tjuamf jewi piwis vuadjif vjev dsifov desf us iwip eqqmoif. Gamm ug sihsiv epf tjeni/haomv.

Pu kuc ot tidasi moli iwiszupi vjoplt, fuitp'v nevvis jux nadj vipasi zua jewi ev vji dunqepz. Vjopl zuas qiptoup ot tegi? Puqi, og e dunqepz huit ceplsaqv, vjisi huit zuas qiptoup epf emm ug vjuti ziest xovj ov.

Et zuas cuul teof, vji ewisehi tipous jet ecuav ~$156l vu mowi ugg ug fasoph vjios humfip ziest. Miv emupi nz hsepfnuvjis jet $2l.

Fuoph ficv tivvminipvt? Qezoph op manq tant? Ulez, ci qsiqesif gus 1099D't epf hivvoph veyif up vjuti. Op vji ipf vjuti edduapvt cioph qeof ugg fuitp'v niep epzvjoph.

Op vji ipf, zua xomm uxp puvjoph epf ci jeqqz ecuav ov. Op vji ipf, zua xomm piwis xop.

Vjot duapvsz mowit epf vjsowit ugg ug ficv. Ficv vu ni ot vji ipinz ug qsuhsitt.

Qsuw 22:7: “Vji sodj samit uwis vji quus, epf vji cussuxis ot tmewi ug vji mipfis."
Zimq! Dsifov ot e vzqi ug raodltepf vjev xomm topl zua getv. Xjip O xet zuaph, ifadevoup xet vji humfip vodliv. Tu, O huv vji ifadevoup. Pux O hiv nz ifadevoup op e muv ug uvjis xezt. Vji siem wemai ug vjot voni gseni ot vjev vji heviliiqist jewi ciip lodlif uav ug vji xez. Epf zua dep gushi zuas uxp qevj. O giim moli e lof op e depfz tvusi. Ov't emm vjisi gus vji veloph og zua fu vji xusl epf neli vji nehod jeqqip.
 
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