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    Just finished reading through this.
    Thank you for the thread and I appreciate it being on the outside.

    The main point I've garnered through my reading is to take the initial manufacturing process very seriously. The more hard work put into the process up front will bear the fruits of having lesser and smaller problems to deal with later.

    Also, are you able to provide a link to the third-party articles that you use? (They are pretty easy to find with a search engine but I still think that it would be good to source them).
     
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    Hey, great post, I am in the process of importing 2500 units of a electronic product, production has finished, we have had 6 units sent to us to test and 3 out of the 6 units have broken / are faulty.

    How should I resolve this with the factory in China? Do I get them to rework, I have no way to test every pair for a good amount of time to ensure the quality, any ideas?

    The pre production samples were perfect and had no issues.
     
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    Please send me a PM
     
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    PM sent, thanks.
     
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    Hi Arun Siva and fellow Fastlaners,

    I'm pretty new to this forum and just discovered this fantastic thread as I'm looking for potential pain points and unmet needs, especially of people who purchase from Chinese vendors or otherwise have business dealings with Chinese companies. I'm specifically looking for such unmet needs from a legal angle due to my professional background (I'm an in-house attorney at a multinational in Taiwan). I'm also bilingual (English/Mandarin) and was wondering if I could use my skills to create a service or product that would be of value to people or companies in the West doing business with Chinese companies.

    (Btw, please let me know in case it is more appropriate to open my own thread instead of posting here.)

    My questions to you and other veterans who have experience with business dealings and negotiations with Chinese vendors would be:

    1. What are your specific pain points or needs, if any, when it comes to communicating in English with your Chinese vendors (is the language barrier a real problem)? Would it make sense, in your view, to use standard letters or documents (such as POs, RFQ, etc) in English attached with a reliable Chinese translation just as a back-up to avoid miscommunications? Or is this never an issue?

    2. Do you ever actually enter contracts with the Chinese side and if so, what kind of contracts would that be in your biz? Would these contracts be signed in English or Chinese or both? What are common problems you encounter wrt contracts? (A friend of mine who used to be a garment manufacturer in China before he retired told me he never used any contracts with his mostly US buyers at all, so I'm wondering if this is true in general or just in his particular line of business).

    3. Would you see any value in having (customizable) drafts of contracts, baseline agreements, Terms & Conditions, clauses, letters or forms (or any other legal documents) available to you in English, attached with a reliable Chinese translation that has been reviewed and approved by a local Chinese lawyer as conforming with local laws?

    These are my basic questions so far as I'm still in the "chasing needs" phase and wondering if I should take this further or not.

    In case there exists such a need, I'd be willing to invest some time in creating some of those generic documents mentioned above, based on your input, and also provide Chinese translations and share them here at no cost.

    I look forward to your feedback. Thanks a lot in advance!
     
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    This is kind of off-topic to the thread.

    I think you should copy/paste this into a new post. You'll probably get more people seeing it that way.

    FWIW, I think there's a lot of value in this idea. I think you're onto something.
     
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    amp0193, thanks a lot for your feedback. Much appreciated! And sorry for the off-topic post. I think I will start a new thread of my own, as per your suggestion.
     
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    feel free to PM me with specific questions. Id be glad to help anyway
     
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    Hi Arun Siva, thanks so much for this offer. I've just PM'd you.
     
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    A good pdf on DFM analysis and what to expect for small or large scale manufacturing.
     

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