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GOLD! The "Astonishing Secrets" Thread

Discussion in 'The Unscripted Entrepreneurial Mind' started by IceCreamKid, Jan 23, 2014.

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    Hi Bowden, I'm sure it's very deep and dangerous stuff but what I'm asking is where do you find them. Greg
     
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    Zen is a banned forum member.
     
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    Hi amp, Thanks for the response. Now that is true irony. Greg
     
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    Sincere Thanks @IceCreamKid. For all the love and value you showered on us.

    All My Rep For Your Posts/values.
     
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    Real secret for entrepreneur.
     
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    I really appreciate all that you do.
    I enjoy spending time with you.

    I can’t wait to see you.
     
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    Good to see you still growing strong. I remember when you joined.
     
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    I just found this thread and I was immediately intrigued by who Zen was. Now I'm going to waste all day trying to figure out what happened.
     
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    Don't waste your time with Zen. In a nutshell it was kind of like growing up as a kid and believing in Santa Clause but then one day you find out Santa isn't who you thought he was! :)
     
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    I know this post is old, but might this advice change for a target audience that is under 30 years old? (thus grew up in the digital age)

    I work for a small company selling travel packages and the target audience's age restriction is 18-30 (for legal reasons).

    After reading one of the threads here about blogs, I've started my own travel-related blog recently targetting the same audience age(different country).

    The company I work for hardcore believes in picking up the phone and dialing, in fact, we get in trouble if we're caught sending an email to discuss anything.

    The company isn't doing badly from what I know, but my natural instinct feels like being able to email this specific audience or have a chat feature might drive sales up.

    However, I also can't tell if it's because all of us just suck at over the phone sales. (since a lot of the workers are new-ish at sales)

    My natural instinct sometimes sucks though.

    Two of my main questions from this post:
    1) Is phone still the preferred method for an audience that grew up in the digital age?

    2) How can I tell if the lack of results through the phone is because of the phone's ineffectiveness to the target audience or due to bad sales skills?
     
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    Yes absolutely -- if your audience is young people, the best communication is the method that young people prefer. That would be text, followed by email. Messages should be tailored for audiences.
     
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    Thank you for the explanation
     
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    So true! And a powerful mind shift in that as well. I am working on that shift as well right now.
     
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    Man, this is what I feel like I've been doing for so long! So "me" focused and pushing hard for ideas to come to me.
     
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    It's crazy that I remember Zen and his post.
     
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    Incredible amount of notions and teachings.
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    Woooow
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    I'm actually up to page 14 of this thread however I thought I'd post as I have a problem that keeps coming up.

    I know people here don't think passion is the way to go for the fast lane, it's more about how you can help others. That's basically the gist of what I am getting.

    To keep a long story short, I'm a little bit lost. I am a online marketer specialising in SEO and content marketing. The last two places that I worked with almost killed me (not literally) but it really did emotionally as they were completely toxic workplaces. I stopped working so I could recuperate from these terrible places for several months and I decided that I would build up my personal reserves and do what I enjoy and try new things. So for example, exercise like dance class, singing lessons. I also travelled a little bit, started learning how to create really basic AR (augmented reality).

    While I was building this basic AR app, I thought "Ok I feel a lot better now what's the next place I'm supposed to work at?" Believe it or not, that day I got a call from an old colleague who said she was going back to study and she was trying to figure out who would be trustworthy, reliable, and could basically replace her. She thought I would be a perfect fit because not only do I have the skills, I also fit into the company culture because they primarily work with organisations that help people (like social causes). I would only be there once a week as a freelancer/subcontractor and then do the rest of the work at my own leisure.

    TBH I didn't want to take the job because I felt like agency work wasn't for me and I was tired of it. I felt I was more useful being dedicated to that one company where I could make a bigger impact on getting their name out there online. However after a while I relented because I realised that I did just out of the blue ask myself what's next and that I was ready and maybe this was just a stepping stone to somewhere else.

    Don't get me wrong, I couldn't be happier with this company. I absolutely love that place and the people are SO GOOD. The clients are typically pretty awesome cos I guess the vibe of helping the community attracts likeminded clients. It has been a really soft place to land. My confidence is up. It is a role that is different to the norm as I normally am not a salesperson but now I am. And I've actually made sales which is pretty cool.

    So what's the problem?

    1) I am my own department of 1, and I am really their marketing arm. They have no intention of hiring more marketers, the boss basically told me that she sees me as another business owner and it willing to build my company up. She's just grateful she has someone she can actually rely on that delivers results especially when it comes to SEO as they've apparently had quite a number of companies over the years who said they could do it but just sucked at it.

    2) I actually hate SEO. lol I don't hate SEO as in don't believe in it. I definitely think it's a worthy investment. I just hate doing the off-page (backlinking and outreach).

    3) I don't really know if I even want to own an online marketing company. I would rather write. I know my writing of this post is a bit all over the place since it's a mind dump, however I actually was quite well known as a writer before returning back to Australia where my confidence just went down cos of all these really bad things that happened. I realised that I wanted to go back to writing after watching some shows my ex-colleague and friend produced. I worked with her when I worked overseas and just watching her shows inspired me to want to tell stories that actually meant something. Just like how I used to.

    So I'm reading IceCreamKid's posts where he's basically saying don't follow your passion (which for me is writing) and figure out how you can love others instead. Well okay, I guess in my current situation how I can love others is by providing them more traffic to their websites. What if it's not really my jam and I'm just doing it because I'm rolling along with what life has thrown at me?
     
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    Are you not able to write on the side? What's stopping you from writing?
     
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    Great question. There's nothing stopping from writing on the side except for time.

    I think it's more about the expectation of having an online marketing company. The role I have at the moment isn't FT. Whenever I try to plan what is expected of me i.e. going from subcontractor to full on doing it that there's always a stumbling block. Like for example I'm going through Michael Port's book about being booked solid and for some reason I always end up writing something else not quite related to the role I'm in right now.
     
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    @IceCreamKid i hope i get this soon brother; thank you for your words of wisdom;
     
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    Thanks for the mindset. Its 5am as I finish reading this entire thread. I'm going to take some action as a sign of thanks and make some calls before I fall asleep. :cool:
     
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    Wow man, my mindset has been the polar opposite of what it should be. I am doing what I am for all the wrong reasons. Thanks for the eye opener @IceCreamKid
     
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    Well I'll be damned. You made my ice cream melt this thread is next level. @IceCreamKid

    I never read this since I joined. Big mistake.
    It clicks with me so much because there is a very deep "entrepreneurial" spirituality to it.
    This should have been the first thread I read.
    Thank you so much.

    Since I joined I have been chasing ideas and asking the wrong questions. Chasing after money.

    I have learned a lot here I believe it is crucial to any new/rising entrepreneur like me to understand. Especially when there are so many people on Youtube and social media trying to tell you a step by step guide to success.

    I will self reflect on some thoughts and maybe it will be useful to someone.

    Stop trying to listen to all the noise and frequencies you hear. You will just get lost. Tune in to your own radio station and expand on it. Relying on others to give you a secret sauce forever will only set you back and slow you down. Rely on yourself more. Your creativity and ingenuity. Unfortunately since I have joined I was chasing that secret sauce and I have come to realize it this past week. But I think we all chased a secret sauce when we first started or joined this forum.

    Focus on your own business. There is no one size fits all. There is no ONE answer to every problem. If there was then that would be the end of entrepreneurship. The moment you full on copy someone else is the moment you just f*cked both your business and yourself.

    If you have X business maybe direct mail is your next step. Ask yourself who your target audience is. Will they even be on instagram to find your service or product? Again, rely on yourself to ask these questions and seek the help of others then but do not chase a secret sauce.

    So much noise in the world that it is so damn hard to filter through the pile of sh*t. Quite frankly, whoever finds this forum should feel blessed. I mean that sincerely. Before I joined and read MJ's books I was lost watching Youtube videos of shopify/oberlo dropshipping gurus giving me the secret sauce. The threads here help me regain focus and have taught me so much and I am still learning. I never knew entrepreneurship was this vast.

    It is so easy to get lost and become a lamb among lambs but in the world of entrepreneurship we are the shepherds and must pave our path individually and help the lambs find their way.

    I hate calling entrepreneurship as business. It is just too formal. This is a journey of the self to reach a higher self. Having a business is only a result of this endless path of learning.

    There is no best niche. No best product. No best software. No best marketing tactic. It is all VARIABLE.

    It gets better though! There IS a best value for said market. You just have to ask the right questions and the right people. Once you convince your customers and they are happy enough to actually take whatever action you intend them to take. Only then have you put the puzzle together (or at least part of it).

    Psychology of self and customers is huge in entrepreneurship. Gary Vee knows this damn well and that is how he gets emotions out of viewers. Always focus on the customer. How will they find me? Will they want this? How can I make them FEEL my brand? But remember, Validation is key. You need to do your own digging around and validate your market.

    Writing this just make me realize I need to learn how to validate markets need next. I guess this goes to show you guys how focusing on our own frequency (journey) leads to action after action. There is so much to learn on this journey. Be patient and love every bit of it.

    Sorry if what I am saying is repetitive on the forum but believe it or not it takes time for these fundamental concepts to reprogram the scripted mind how we think of the journey of entrepreneurship and life.

    You may tell yourself you have it all figured out but you don't. I thought I had it figured out after reading MJ's book but I am still a wantrapreneur. I admit it and you should too. Learning never stops.

    Don't try to rush the fastlane journey. It will come. I say this not from experience yet but from what I have seen with people here. They enjoyed the ride. Even the bumps in the road. Spend time learning about yourself and your business. Build that foundation and things will come.

    It really is true. The universe has it's ways to give back to those that give value.
    I just did a good deed the other day and the next day I got bonus pay at my J.O.B to invest later.
    Coincidence? Eh. Maybe. OR maybe there is more to this than we thought we knew..
     
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    I love your concrete and on spot summary. :thumbsup:
     

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