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    I took this screenshot after searching for "brand copywriter" to see what results populate. For this set of words I show up #3 on the list. That's pretty cool, but not the reason for the screenshot.

    What I want you to notice is the first 30 or so words under our hourly rates. Look at all the other people around me -- all the people I compete with at the top. Notice anything different about mine? Every other person goes into the why you should choose me spiel. They don't show the client what they can do. Instead they tell them about what they can do.

    When you get to mine, it skips that sh*t. I don't have to say, "let me tell you a story." I just do it. Take them by the hand and pull them in. It's completely different. It looks nothing like any other profile on the page. That's what makes it stand out and get noticed.

    So now that you know...how will you be different?

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    A like brought this thread back to my attention.

    I've been on the road a LOT the past few weeks. Finally getting back in the swing of things, but we're about to relocate, so it'll be hectic for another month or so.

    Anyway, wanted to chat about some of the changes Upwork made recently that you may or may not have noticed. Some of the changes seemed to cause a HUGE drop in my interview invites, but now it seems they've increased again.

    So what's changed lately?

    • You can verify your bank account to get preference for country-specific gigs.
    • Upwork is now reaching out to freelancers for gigs on behalf of some clients
    • Some gigs are only available to top-rated freelancers
    • You can submit requests for skill tags and actually get them approved
    • You can join special interest groups on Upwork and get special badges (for instance U.S. Military group)

    What hasn't changed:

    • People are still sending "me" focused proposals
    • Sending Y.O.U. Focused proposals still works just fine
    • It's becoming more and more crowded in the copywriting sphere
    • You MUST be able to prove you can help in order to get noticed

    What can you do to increase your invites and interviews?

    • Get specific with your target market
    • Target the first sentence of your bio to your target market / niche / industry
    • Use your profile to speak directly to your target market
    • Show industry-specific portfolio examples
    • Be ready to PROVE you have SOME kind of industry related experience
    • HAVE A LINKEDIN because clients look at your LinkedIn just like you look at theirs
    • Stop trying to sell clients with your proposal. Keep it real.
    • Add skill tags to your portfolio examples to help people find you
    • Have a website (at least 1 page) and add a link to it in your Upwork profile
    -- Make sure there's a form in case anyone wants to contact you (hint hint)
    -- Don't add https://www. to the link or else Upwork won't let you put it in your bio

    So far this week I interviewed with 6 prospects and declined a bunch more.

    I agreed to work with 2, and one of those sent 2 more referrals instantly.

    Of the first 2 clients, one specifically said I caught her attention by having a website.

    With that one client I now have a full-blown referral network and can move beyond Upwork as needed.

    Questions?

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    ^ This is how clients respond when you prove you can help. This client will pay any price and will give more referrals than 50 non-target clients combined. (Why I say to only work with the right people for you).
     

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    Hi SinisterLex,

    First of all I'd like to say a big thank you for your threads here about copywriting, I've learned quite a bit from them! And your youtube videos are also great (I've been listening at 2x the speed lol). Great work man!

    I've been working as a designer/developer for the past year (freelance on design platforms mostly, but also Freelancer), but about two weeks ago I've decided to join UpWork and get started on some copywriting work to keep my skills sharp for when I start my next business (also I was quite excited to be able to "make it" in the most crowded field - if you can compete here, you can compete anywhere!). Your threads have been immensely helpful to give me a head-start. I'll just add here a few things I've learned in this short time-span, that may help some of the people reading this thread and trying to get a start (especially if they are not native and don't have any copywriting experience). This will reinforce the message of your thread!

    First of all, I have:
    • No copywriting experience apart from what I gained while running my magazine business 2-3 years ago (and what I gained from my extensive reading in psychology/philosophy)
    • No portfolio whatsoever to show
    • I am not a native English speaker, I'm from Eastern Europe

    In just 2 weeks (ending today), I managed to:
    • Go from $0 to $100+
    • Secure a long-term $15/hr job for an international marketing agency writing web copy for their clients (landing pages, sales/marketing emails, webinars, etc.)
    • Reject two jobs (one $20/hr blog post writing + SEO job, and another $70 video ad script for a male escort - rejected this one for moral reasons)
    • Enter negotiations for a mixed copywriting/design contract for $475 (which I'll probably finalise this weekend, and I'll update with the outcome!)

    If I get no other jobs and I do just 10hrs/week at $15/hr, and close the $475 contract, I'll already get very close to $1000, without any other applications/jobs in the next two weeks.

    So here's how I've done it. I've used some of the advice SinisterLex gives here (YOU focused applications, never giving up, mindset, etc.), but also ignored many of the rules which didn't apply to my case. I won't provide execution details, how exactly I've done each and every step, but I will list absolutely all the things that I've done. You have to figure out how to do them for yourselves - that's part of learning how to be in business and solve problems on your own, with limited information.

    Step 1. Market Research
    • Find out what you're worth. To do this, get your hands on the work other copywriters produce on UpWork, look at their rates, and see how much they charge. Then consider if you can produce something similar. If you can, then you're worth that much, and that's what you'll aim to reach. Now take this value, whatever it is, and divide it by 2. Say if you find you can write copy that someone charging $15/hr can write, then start by charging $8/hr. You don't want to short-sell yourself too much in the beginning. I started charging at $20/hr, but applied to some jobs with as low as $15/hr.

    • Find a way to study the proposals sent by your competition, and how they get most of their clients. I discovered that "famous" copywriters get found based on referrals and strong portfolios, which make it much easier for them. To beat them, you need to hit them where they're weak (and they'll be weak because they don't need to focus on certain things, such as the quality of their proposal, having UpWork tests, etc.) - so these are the things you have to focus on.

    • Figure out what proposals work. I've sent many types of proposals, including proposals jam-packed with potentially helpful information (weren't very successful, just because they end up being too long and too general), two line proposals, proposals seeking to showcase my copywriting skill, and clear & concise proposals which illustrate how you'll add value (the latter have been the most successful). Bottom line - EXPERIMENT!!

    Step 2. Write an Overview which Showcases your Copywriting Skills
    • Most of the big copywriters have boring and traditional resumés: here's who I am, what education I have, and where I've worked / how much experience I have. You have no experience, and if you're like me neither do you have an education which helps you in copywriting nor a helpful employment history. So you must showcase what you do have, which is your skill - that must be the central piece of your overview.

    • Ensure that your overview describes how exactly you are capable to add value to your target market. Tailor your overview to your personality. SinisterLex is very creative & artistic, I'm more traditional business like. I'm not going to tailor my profile like his, because I don't have his strengths - I have different strengths, and I appeal to a different kind of market segment.

    • As a non-native speaker your overview will show your skill with the English language - so make the most out of it!

    Step 3. Do as many tests as you can which will get you Top 10%
    • I have a lot of very varied experience, so I have about 10 tests where I am in top 10%. This doesn't include only writing or copywriting relevant tests but also marketing, web design, development - anything you're highly skilled with, test it and do your best. I work 24/7 and have been doing so for the past year, and I've been studying and learning a lot apart from just freelancing. Put this knowledge to good use.

    • How will it help me? You will add IMMENSE value. Who will your client choose, copywriter A who is just a great copywriter, or copywriter B who is somewhat less capable as a copywriter but who is hard-working, ready to learn, capable to add his own copy online by himself (on Wordpress or whatever other CMS) and make attractive designs which will draw customers in? I'd choose copywriter B, as would many other clients. Remember - use ALL your skills, not just copywriting.

    Step 4. Show any certifications you have or can easily get which are relevant to copywriting
    • Since copywriting is your speciality, you want your certifications to be related. Sales or marketing certifications are great to put in here. This shows your client that you are a copywriting specialist, but when they look at all your tests, they see you can also do all these other cool things at a really high level.

    • Avoid putting unrelated certifications here, otherwise you'll look like a jack-of-all-trades (although that can also be an advantage with some clients).

    Step 5. Write YOU focused Cover Letters & Create a Portfolio on the Go!
    • Make sure you write short and concise cover letters, which mirror your client's language, and target their needs.

    • Ensure your cover letter showcases your copywriting skills and fits in with your personality

    • Say you apply to a Product Description Job. You've NEVER written a product description, but you need to attach some work to the letter, as your client requests it. Choose a random product you know and love, get a picture, put it in a word document, and go ahead and write all the necessary sections, including possible keywords, for that product. If you need to know how product descriptions work on Amazon, watch a youtube video on it, so you quickly get the idea of the process. Store this in a folder and send it to your client. Do this, and you'll build a portfolio even without actually winning any jobs. Then you can start showcasing this and your chances of getting hired will increase exponentially, especially if you're a great copywriter. This way, even when you lose, you are in truth winnin'!

    • You can also try the strategy of creating and attaching a very similar work to the work the client asks for, that way they may come to the conclusion you're the most fit for the job as most freelancers who apply, especially the great ones, will not bother, and will instead give generic work as examples. Note: I haven't actually tried this tactic (as I've been working on building my portfolio based on the areas I know best and am most comfortable with), but I intend to use it in the coming weeks.

    • When you get interviewed you MUST win. I've won 100% of the jobs where I got interviewed and I wanted to win. There's only two where I've lost so far, and one of them I asked for too high a price simply because I didn't want to do the work (it was blog post writing for $20/hr, but I asked $30/hr knowing it was a long-term job with 30+hrs per week, so I wasn't too keen on it. This is another piece of advice. Don't outright reject jobs you don't like. Ask instead for very high prices, who knows, you may actually get it! :p ). The other was a job for a male escort, and my religion and moral values are very important for me, so I wouldn't write ads for any sexually explicit content, regardless of pay. I suggest you have your own principles and you stick to them. You're not a slave for anyone!

    Step 6. NEVER EVER GIVE UP!
    • I'll be honest with you. There was a point when I wanted to give up. I said this is it, it's not working. The odds are too stacked against me, I'll go back to focusing on development/design. I'm not good enough. I have too little experience, etc. etc. Just then one of my proposals went through and I was interviewed. I was lucky, but I was this close to giving up. If you give up, you'll never know how close you are to success!

    • Work Hard, Work Smart, Work for Long Enough and success is inevitable!

    Bottom line: You can make it as a copywriter with no experience, who isn't a native speaker, and who has no portfolio, in the most competitive Upwork industry in 2017.
     
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    @SinisterLex , where can I learn more about personality type analysis?
     
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    Quick Update...

    Working with 2 clients ongoing and about to pick up a 3rd today.

    Texted a client a couple days ago. We hopped on a call and she paid $300 for a page of copy.

    Now talking about moving to a $2k+/mo retainer and/or working on commission.

    Other client is booked on retainer of $1,000/mo for a couple of weekly 500 word blog posts.

    Meeting a client by video in a few hours. Pitched $500 per published media post at 1-2 per week.

    That client also wants to chat about copywriting services.

    All from Upwork.

    Will be outsourcing after today's client moves forward.
     
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    SinisterLex,

    I don't know how to thank you man....

    I think this may be a start - after planning to message you for 'more advice' AFTER I dîd 5 courses, 10 books on my list, read threads, watched videos and created a manual for myself...I saw that video of yours and it made me laugh because why do I need more information??

    I was 'scared' but it's the first real action I've taken without being '100% prepared'.

    So I just went into creating a profile and planned to do courses, read etc. WHILST applying for jobs. But there is an issue...

    Upwork rejected my profile and I think actually registering as a copywriter simply won't go through.

    I'll be honest I am a poet, published business writer, got highest marks for my science dissertation and a number of other things - but I kept it as copywriting. Also I didn't fully do the profile till I wrote some quality copy but the time it took for it to be a rejection makes me think simply by saying I'm a copywriter got it rejected by a bot. Proper fucked up my mood for a bit.

    Now I'm thinking should I elaborate as a technology copywriter, copywriter than can do high level research, can offer a social media audit or try to think of ways other than Upwork.

    I do honestly want to give value and anyone that meets me in person just instinctively knows this and my capability.

    I just don't even know how to actually make $10 and this scarcity really put my mindset into a place that isn't really me.

    I'm more ready than I've been to do this and I hope you can help.

    Perhaps as this journey goes I could document struggles that would help others in time, but I noticed you are also helping coaches, like I said I do have a number of skills so anything you have where I could be of use I'd be delighted to help.

    Thanks

    Sinister
     
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    on what grounds did they reject your profile?
     
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    Hello lowtek,

    Here's the exact message sent failrly quickly after my submission, I may try re-submitting more thoroughly, but anyway:

    "Thank you for submitting your profile to Upwork as part of the registration process.
    As we do with everyone who wishes to join Upwork, we carefully reviewed your profile to determine whether there is sufficient need for your skills and experience in the marketplace. Unfortunately, at this time there are already many freelancers with a similar skillset to yours and we cannot accept your registration."
     
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    So an over-saturation of copywriter freelancers? Wow.
     
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    I'm not trying to say "Oh shit! There's competition - it actually exists!"

    It's like imagine Upwork was a club where hot girls hang out, I'm not saying there are too many guys now.....obviously I must face that and be even better - I'm saying the club isn't letting guys in

    I am confident that I can use all my skills and still make even with an oversaturation - but not even being allowed to do that is another thing.

    This might be a recent thing on Upwork and worth mentioning since Lex has done so much putting his insights out there for all of us.
     
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    Change the application to some other skillset and then change it to copywriting when you get it approved.
     
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    Sneaky....

    At least I'll brush up on my other shit then

    Thanks
     
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    Yeah, copywriter is the single most listed skill on Upwork. There's like 30,000 people listing that skill now.

    I wonder why .. :clench:
     
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    Thanks for the reply man

    I got some courses regarding VSL's, Google Adsense and Social Media platforms

    What do you think of doing those courses with deep research then 'up-selling' to copywriting?

    Maybe specializing in technology as I know lots about it and science background helps with research

    Must be good dough for those established in Copywriting though, damn!
     
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    Not SinisterLex (I'm too sane), but this could be a good move.

    You'll want to make sure you can actually help them out. If you can't write an article to save your life, maybe don't offer blog posting (unless you've got someone to handle that).

    If you can provide the value, there's nothing wrong with offering to help out more. Hell, that's how the best turn a few product descriptions into a thousand dollar contract.
     
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    Thanks bruv,

    Can definitely write an article, poetry, scientifically, content, business plans etc.

    The Social Media, Marketing (VSL, AdSense etc...), and Technology - I got good grasp off but I can learn shit VERY quickly....willing to do so

    Still got that feeling though that it won't happen somehow!... I know it's fear

    Got a slight problem in now choosing what to put on - I don't wanna learn multiple unrelated courses and book then practice with nothing to focus on.

    I'm thinking of just matching high demand skills, and willing to go over and above to make sure the client is happy
     
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    If I were you, I'd pick a high demand skill you don't mind doing.

    Practice that skill a lot. Get really good. Once you're really good, almost great, then start looking for a niche.

    Preferably a niche where people are already used to paying high rates.

    Then become THE expert in THAT niche. Over-deliver. Expand. Charge whatever you want.
     
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    Update

    For May I stepped things up a bit. I niched down and pulled 4 clients worth a combined total of between $5,000 and $8000.

    As of today I took my first niche referral and closed it on retainer.

    It's my second $1,000 retainer of the month, so now I have guaranteed full-time income for a couple emails a week.

    I built 3 niche websites that help prove to clients why I'm the ONLY choice.

    Oh, you thought I was just applying to gigs? No. I do what others don't.

    The blog I started last year is gaining real traction. This is good because it links back to my agency site.

    I started connecting with my niche on linkedin and offering to let them guest post. Secured one guest post today.

    Lastly, I posted a job on Upwork. I decided to outsource some of the work so I can focus on sales.

    It's almost a $10k business again.

    A few more referrals and a couple good team members and the sky's the limit.
     
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    Legendary. :thumbsup:
     
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    It's so obvious!.....you make this shit look easy....

    And I'm supposed to be the ideas guy! - thank you Lex

    Would this be a possibility:

    Instagram, Facebook, YouTube Marketing (Keep some improving and offering Content, Copy and Research)

    Actually been planning a future technology blog for a while....but I am published in a book, have my top ranked dissertation, could probably get a speech given as well or gain some publicity

    Is my niche 'SM Marketing for Tech firms' or 'Instagram Marketing for Robotics'

    Latter is night and tight but possibly too niched....I mean, am I to miss out on a Facebook Marketing for A.I?

    I got a new focus at least - Think I can get in with SM ....... (ain't quitting on the copy just yet though)

     
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    Was this a job that you applied for and accepted on Upwork?

    And then turned around and posted it on Upwork for someone to do for you?


    If so, that's hilarious and awesome.
     
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    That would be fucking raw!!!' LOL
     
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    It's not for 1 specific job, but for ongoing future work so I'm free to focus on sales.

    But yes, it will be for work from Upwork too.

    At this point it's time to expand beyond Upwork. I started over back in February.

    Now I have enough credibility to grab all of the high-paying jobs in my Upwork niche.

    Anyone who's serious about their business won't choose any other freelancer over me.

    Because I've rebuilt myself as the "go-to" expert.

    Referrals are starting to come in so I have my exit path from Upwork too.

    So now Upwork is just another lead source while I add outside channels.
     
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    SinisterLex The moments that define you have already happened. Read Millionaire Fastlane FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass LEGENDARY CONTRIBUTOR

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    Gained "Top Rated" status this week.

    Pulled another 2 clients + in talks with a 3rd. All in my niche. So that's 7 clients for the month.

    Got everything set up in my new rental home.

    Preparing to step things up in June and hand more work over to the new freelancer.

    Met my neighbor today. She knows everyone in the surrounding area. This will come in handy soon.

    Decided I'm getting one of these in a week or two.

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    Whisper Room

    Will prove useful for writing in silence, meditation, and a bunch of other stuff.

    Thanks freelancing.

    Also ordered Unscripted. Started reading. Loving it.
     
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