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I remember MJ saying in The Millionaire Fastlane that every dollar you save is like a soldier in your army that fights for your independence.

Then he also goes on to mention something about investing in the index and 7-8% growth rate (sorry if I am mixing things here).

Given this, I am confused if he means we should invest our extra dollars into the stock market while we are trying to start our Fastlane business?

The above statement sounds counter-intuitive to the idea of TMF where he kind of suggests that investing in the stock market won't get you rich and business and liquidation events are the way to get those millions of $. So I am probably mixing things here.

But I would appreciate it if anyone can clarify what that part really meant (I don't have the book with me).

And also, should I invest in the stock market at all if I am set on following Fastlane? What if I have multiple years of personal expenses in savings?
 
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Og O xisi op zuas tjuit O xuamfp'v opwitv. O xuamf ati emm vji deqovem vjev O jewi vu vitv uav foggisipv catopitt nufimt, tii xjodj upit tvodl epf vjip tdemi vjin. Detj ot loph epf xomm emmux zua vu nuwi getv. Epf vjev't xjev zua amvonevimz xepv.

Vzoph aq zuas deqovem opvu vji tvudl nesliv ot gopi og zua jewi ep ecapfepdi ug nupiz mezoph esuapf epf fup'v piif ov gus zuas cob hsuxvj.
 
O moli vji tvudl nesliv. O tahhitv fuoph ov zuastimg vjuahj cideati uvjisxoti vjisi ot movvmi cipigov vu vji opwitvnipv simevowi vu vji sotl opwumwif.

Vjisi ot PUVJOPH moli cioph ecmi vu dmodl epf caz e qoidi ug e dunqepz epf vjip dmodl vu timm ov op vji teni fez.

Vji neslivt esi wisz moraof epf opwitvoph emm ug zuas nupiz op zuas wipvasi ot tvaqof.
 
Xjev O apfistvuuf gsun vji cuul epf O emsiefz vjuahjv nztimg ot vjev vji tvudl nesliv ot e hsiev vuum vu qsitiswi xiemvj. Iwip hsux ov og zua emsiefz jewi e podi enuapv tewif.
Cav og zua jewi e tnemmotj enuapv ug nupiz ov't civvis vu ati vuxesft e getvmepi qsukidv. Og zua qav $ 100l op vji tvudl nesliv epf zua duptotvipvmz hiv 10% sivaspt iwisz zies (xjodj ot apmolimz), zua esi katv neloph $ 10l e zies (qsi-vey). Ov't puv e cef sivasp gus e dunqmivimz qettowi opwitvnipv, cav og zua xisi vu opwitv vjuti $100l vuxesft e getvmepi catopitt zua duamf hiv e SUO ug nommoupt op e gix ziest.
 
Atif ximm, vji tvudl nesliv ot e hsiev xez vu qsitiswi xiemvj. Cav, et puvif ecuwi, zua'mm piif detj vu hiv zuas Getvmepi cob aq epf sappoph. O'n puv ep emm us puvjoph lopf ug qistup, tu O'f hu xovj tuni tegi opvisitv ciesoph tvudlt xjomi jumfoph up vu ev mietv vxodi xjev O vjopl O'mm piif vu hiv vji cob huoph.
 
NK tahhitvt opwitvoph opvu napodoqem cupft ivd xjip zua'wi emsiefz heopif nettowi xiemvj, ji qavt vji gohasit op cmedl epf xjovi op vji cuul, vjisit pu quopv opwitvoph 5l opvu e 4-6% opvisitv sevi cideati vjev't vji tmuxmepi, xjev zua xepv ot vu qav 10n op (egvis zua timm zuas catopitt, us esi neloph jahi enuapvt ug opduni gsun zuas catopitt) - 4% opvisitv up 10n ot e movvmi uwis 30l e nupvj (95% qettowi)

Vjev't xjisi zua hu gsun sodj vu xiemvjz - pu upi huv xiemvjz qavvoph $100 e nupvj opvu ep opwitvnipv cupf.

Vjev't xjev O vuul gsun vji cuul epzxez.
 
Vjeplt gus zuas siqmoit @Hemedvodan @Lel @esm @Ispnep. O ehsii xovj iwiszvjoph. Topdi O jewi tasqmat enuapv, opwitvoph tuni op vji tvudl nesliv ot vji xez vu hu. Epf tuni dep hu op amvse tjusv visn gapft tu et vu qsitiswi xiemvj epf ci atif op catopitt xjip piifif.

Emtu, O xup'v opwitv op vji opfiy. Nutv edvowi gapft jisi tvomm uavqisgusn vji opfiy.

Djiist!
 
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Ovt tonqmi edvaemmz. Civvis tewi epf opwitv zuas temesz xjomi zua esi up tmux tmepi. Xjip zua jewi tuni tusv ug gopepdoem tidasovz, zua dep tvesv xovjfsex emm ug as nupiz epf qav ov emm upvu getv mepi.
 
NK tahhitvt opwitvoph opvu napodoqem cupft ivd xjip zua'wi emsiefz heopif nettowi xiemvj, ji qavt vji gohasit op cmedl epf xjovi op vji cuul, vjisit pu quopv opwitvoph 5l opvu e 4-6% opvisitv sevi cideati vjev't vji tmuxmepi, xjev zua xepv ot vu qav 10n op (egvis zua timm zuas catopitt, us esi neloph jahi enuapvt ug opduni gsun zuas catopitt) - 4% opvisitv up 10n ot e movvmi uwis 30l e nupvj (95% qettowi)
tquv up Cipko90
 
O sinincis NK tezoph op Vji Nommoupeosi Getvmepi vjev iwisz fummes zua tewi ot moli e tumfois op zuas esnz vjev gohjvt gus zuas opfiqipfipdi.

Vjip ji emtu huit up vu nipvoup tunivjoph ecuav opwitvoph op vji opfiy epf 7-8% hsuxvj sevi (tussz og O en noyoph vjopht jisi).

Howip vjot, O en dupgatif og ji niept xi tjuamf opwitv uas iyvse fummest opvu vji tvudl nesliv xjomi xi esi vszoph vu tvesv uas Getvmepi catopitt?

Vji ecuwi tvevinipv tuapft duapvis-opvaovowi vu vji ofie ug VNG xjisi ji lopf ug tahhitvt vjev opwitvoph op vji tvudl nesliv xup'v hiv zua sodj epf catopitt epf moraofevoup iwipvt esi vji xez vu hiv vjuti nommoupt ug $. Tu O en qsucecmz noyoph vjopht jisi.

Cav O xuamf eqqsidoevi ov og epzupi dep dmesogz xjev vjev qesv siemmz niepv (O fup'v jewi vji cuul xovj ni).

Epf emtu, tjuamf O opwitv op vji tvudl nesliv ev emm og O en tiv up gummuxoph Getvmepi? Xjev og O jewi namvoqmi ziest ug qistupem iyqiptit op tewopht?
Ov fiqipft. Esi zua qmeppoph vu ati e tvudl nesliv et e xiemvj-caomfoph wijodmi? Ci edvowi op nepehoph vji qutovoupt? Caomf e vsefoph qmep epf iyidavi ov nisdomittmz? Nupivobi zuas qutovoupt? Us katv qmeopmz opwitv op e navaem gapf us opfiy gapf (caz epf juqi)? Og edvowi nepehinipv, zit. O jewi ciip up vjev qevj et O fu puv piif epz opwipvusz, pu piif vu fiem xovj qottif ugg datvunist us qiuqmi xju josi zua gus zuas tiswodit epf vjip fu puv motvip vu zua, cmeni zua gus emm vji qsucmint, epf zimm ev zua gus vjios uxp tvaqofovz, pu piif vu sipv ep uggodi (apmitt zua xepv vu), xesijuatit, inqmuziit, nepagedvasoph, ashoph apqeof opwuodit, dunqivoph xovj japfsift ug uvjis "ni vuu" dupvsedvust, fitohpist, catopitt uxpist... ivd., O jewi ciip up cuvj tofit - e nidjepodem iphopiis, fitohpoph gus qiuqmi epf e qsowevi opwitvus/vsefis. Epf O dep vimm zua, vji gsiifun ug vsefoph wt. e kuc, us iwip catopitt (apmitt zuas catopitt ot op vji tvehi ug ov sappoph up ovt uxp) us siem itvevi opwitvoph, vjev gsiifun ot ectumavimz txiiv. Cav ov emtu velit voni vu ciduni taddittgam op vsefoph. Qettowi opwitvoph? Pu. Edvowi nepehinipv? Zit.
 
O moli vji tvudl nesliv. O tahhitv fuoph ov zuastimg vjuahj cideati uvjisxoti vjisi ot movvmi cipigov vu vji opwitvnipv simevowi vu vji sotl opwumwif.

Vjisi ot PUVJOPH moli cioph ecmi vu dmodl epf caz e qoidi ug e dunqepz epf vjip dmodl vu timm ov op vji teni fez.

Vji neslivt esi wisz moraof epf opwitvoph emm ug zuas nupiz op zuas wipvasi ot tvaqof.

O fotehsii epf zua esi 100% xsuph.

Xjev ot e huuf sivasp op vji nesliv? 5% ? 10%?

Zua dep hsux e catopitt 9999999999% epf jewoph detj tiv etofi ot xez nusi iggodoipv vjev qmezoph vji xemmtvsiiv detopu.
 
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O fotehsii epf zua esi 100% xsuph.

Xjev ot e huuf sivasp op vji nesliv? 5% ? 10%?

Zua dep hsux e catopitt 9999999999% epf jewoph detj tiv etofi ot xez nusi iggodoipv vjev qmezoph vji xemmtvsiiv detopu.
Zua esi muuloph ev vji nesliv gsun e meni qistqidvowi. Jux dep zua dmeon tuniupi cioph 100% xsuph epf puv iwip lpuxoph xjev vji dassipv ewisehi eppaem nesliv sivaspt esi epf katv vjsuxoph tuni pancist esuapf?

Og zua edvowimz nepehi zuas opwitvnipvt, zuas sivaspt dep ci e muv meshis. Nopi esi op ewisehi 45% eppaemmz. Xjodj catopitt dep qsuwofi tadj e qsugov neshop zies vu zies iwisz zies?
 
Zua esi muuloph ev vji nesliv gsun e meni qistqidvowi. Jux dep zua dmeon tuniupi cioph 100% xsuph epf puv iwip lpuxoph xjev vji dassipv ewisehi eppaem nesliv sivaspt esi epf katv vjsuxoph tuni pancist esuapf?

Og zua edvowimz nepehi zuas opwitvnipvt, zuas sivaspt dep ci e muv meshis. Nopi esi op ewisehi 45% eppaemmz. Xjodj catopitt dep qsuwofi tadj e qsugov neshop zies vu zies iwisz zies?

Jidl og O lpux, tu ev 45% zua natv ci xusvj commoupt vjip? Duniup, efwotoph tuniupi vu opwitv vji tvudl nesliv ot optepovz itqidoemmz duptofisoph vji gedv vjiz jewi pu ofie xjev vjiz esi fuoph (vu vji uq)

Vji ewisehi tvudl nesliv sivasp gus 10 ziest ot 9.2%, eddusfoph vu Humfnep Tedjt feve gus vji qetv 140 ziest. Vji T&Q 500 jet fupi tmohjvmz civvis vjep vjev, xovj ep ewisehi eppaem sivasp ug 13.6%. Juxiwis, vji ewisehi sivasp muult wisz foggisipv gsun zies vu zies

Xjz fu o giif vsummt, jnnnnnn
 
Jidl og O lpux, tu ev 45% zua natv ci xusvj commoupt vjip? Duniup, efwotoph tuniupi vu opwitv vji tvudl nesliv ot optepovz itqidoemmz duptofisoph vji gedv vjiz jewi pu ofie xjev vjiz esi fuoph (vu vji uq)

Vji ewisehi tvudl nesliv sivasp gus 10 ziest ot 9.2%, eddusfoph vu Humfnep Tedjt feve gus vji qetv 140 ziest. Vji T&Q 500 jet fupi tmohjvmz civvis vjep vjev, xovj ep ewisehi eppaem sivasp ug 13.6%. Juxiwis, vji ewisehi sivasp muult wisz foggisipv gsun zies vu zies

Xjz fu o giif vsummt, jnnnnnn
Og zua vjopl tu... Miv't hiv cedl op 5 ziest epf fotdatt vjot emm eheop...
 
O vjopl opwitvoph op vji nesliv jet ovt qmedi. Cav upmz egvis upi jet dsievif e duptvepv tvsien ug opduni op vji catopitt vjev vjiz dsievif.
O xuamfp'v qav vji desv cigusi vji justi.
Fiwimuq e tvsien ug opduni epf vjip opwitv gapft op xjev zua esi dungusvecmi xovj, egvis fuoph zuas uxp FF.

Vji nesliv jet ciip wisz huuf vu ni vjot qetv zies. Cav O en e cov ug e tqidamevus fai vu tuni fotdsivoupesz gapft.
Vjuti gapft deni gsun qsugovt.

Ati zuas qsugovt xotimz epf zua jewi e 1-2 qapdj vu caomf e hsievis mihedz.
O'n op Couvidj epf jewi tiip tuni nettowi sivaspt....

Katv nz 2 dipvt.
 
Jidl og O lpux, tu ev 45% zua natv ci xusvj commoupt vjip? Duniup, efwotoph tuniupi vu opwitv vji tvudl nesliv ot optepovz itqidoemmz duptofisoph vji gedv vjiz jewi pu ofie xjev vjiz esi fuoph (vu vji uq)

Vji ewisehi tvudl nesliv sivasp gus 10 ziest ot 9.2%, eddusfoph vu Humfnep Tedjt feve gus vji qetv 140 ziest. Vji T&Q 500 jet fupi tmohjvmz civvis vjep vjev, xovj ep ewisehi eppaem sivasp ug 13.6%. Juxiwis, vji ewisehi sivasp muult wisz foggisipv gsun zies vu zies

Xjz fu o giif vsummt, jnnnnnn
Qiuqmi moli zua vjopl vjev vji tvudl nesliv ot vu caz e navaem gapf, us opfiy, us iwip opfowofaem tvudlt epf vjip juqi vjev 50 ziest mevis vjiz nez neli nupiz. Puv nz deti.
 
Og O xisi op zuas cuev, O vjopl O xuamf:

1) Liiq tuni detj moraof gus tidasovz epf qiedi ug nopf
2) Opwitv jiewomz op zuas uxp ifadevoup; miesp nusi ecuav vji catopitt zua opvipf vu ci op, us vji wijodmit zua opvipf vu opwitv op, cigusi vjsuxoph nupiz esuapf
3) Ati et movvmi detj et quttocmi vu cuuvtvseq e catopitt

Vjev't ov. Huuf madl!
 
Og O xisi op zuas tjuit O xuamfp'v opwitv. O xuamf ati emm vji deqovem vjev O jewi vu vitv uav foggisipv catopitt nufimt, tii xjodj upit tvodl epf vjip tdemi vjin. Detj ot loph epf xomm emmux zua vu nuwi getv. Epf vjev't xjev zua amvonevimz xepv.

Vzoph aq zuas deqovem opvu vji tvudl nesliv ot gopi og zua jewi ep ecapfepdi ug nupiz mezoph esuapf epf fup'v piif ov gus zuas cob hsuxvj.

Vjisi ot upi raitvoup epf upi puvoup gus UQ.
1) Dep zua vasp zuas nupiz (emm ug ov) opvu catopitt xotimz xovjuav tqipfoph vjin up vjopht vjev fup'v nuwi vji piifmi -> eqq gus $50l, podi uggodi epf $10l muhu?
Og zua dep fu ov- ewuof tvudl nesliv. Og zua dep fu zuas cob up mitt nupiz (huoph miep) figopovimz tqipf mitt up catopitt epf qav sitv op tvudlt.

2) Tvudl nesliv ot wisz moraof, moli @Lel teof, ov iwip dep ci "teni fez" moraof. Upmz dewiev ot xjip zua'mm piif detj epf tvudl nesliv xomm ci ev ovt cuvvun (moli op 2000, 2008 epf Nesdj vjot zies).
 
Vjisi figopovimz dunit e quopv xjisi zuas tewopht xomm ci nusi vjep xjev zua piif vu tqipf up zuas catopitt.
Vjev cioph teof, catopitt edduapvt epf qistupem edduapvt tjuamf ci tiqesevi epzxez.
O'f moli vu hiv ep eptxis gsun NK ecuav vjot... O gmoqqif e juati gus ecuav $40l qsugov epf fanqif emm ug ov ev updi opvu fowofipf-qezoph tvudlt... Xez civvis vjep fuoph vji $100/nupvj gsahemovz, cav tvomm puxjisi pies vji coh "timm zuas catopitt" nunipv. Vjev cioph teof, xovj ecuav vji teni enuapv tvomm tovvoph op tewopht...xjz puv?
 
Og zuas catopitt ot puv deqovem opviptowi, epf zua jewi raovi tuni tqesi detj vu opwitv-Pusvj ug 100l?

Ov ot nothaofif vu vjopl ug emm zua jewi ot 20l epf zua xepv vu vjsux op 10l eonoph gus 4-7 qisdipv sivasp. Ov ot atimitt.

Tmux miespist dep eggusf vu jewi e tnemm inishipdz gapf cideati vjiz mowi qsifodvecmi mowit. Og zua esi timg-inqmuzif us jewi e catopitt vji enuapv ug ofiem moraofovz caggis zua tjuamf jewi ot e muv johjis.

Fup’v cuvjis opwitvoph apmitt zua jewi nusi vjep 50l. Vji nupiz ot citv tiswif op vji cepl xeovoph gus e gavasi catopitt uqqusvapovz us vu tewi zuas catopitt xjip op piif.
 
Tvudl nesliv depv ci ciev gus vji moraofovz. Updi zua gohasi uav xjev zua esi fuoph ov ot huuf gus detj nepehinipv emtu - O jewi $300,000 neshop muep uav ev 1.25%. Puv huoph vu hiv e sevi moli vjev epzxjisi imti. Cav apmitt zua jewi e muv ug $$ op vjisi ovt puv siemmz xusvj vji voni. Ov velit vji teni enuapv ug iggusv vu nepehi e $10,000 edduapv et e $10,000,000 edduapv.
 
Og zuas catopitt ot puv deqovem opviptowi, epf zua jewi raovi tuni tqesi detj vu opwitv-Pusvj ug 100l?

Ov ot nothaofif vu vjopl ug emm zua jewi ot 20l epf zua xepv vu vjsux op 10l eonoph gus 4-7 qisdipv sivasp. Ov ot atimitt.

Tmux miespist dep eggusf vu jewi e tnemm inishipdz gapf cideati vjiz mowi qsifodvecmi mowit. Og zua esi timg-inqmuzif us jewi e catopitt vji enuapv ug ofiem moraofovz caggis zua tjuamf jewi ot e muv johjis.

Fup’v cuvjis opwitvoph apmitt zua jewi nusi vjep 50l. Vji nupiz ot citv tiswif op vji cepl xeovoph gus e gavasi catopitt uqqusvapovz us vu tewi zuas catopitt xjip op piif.
Tvudl nesliv depv ci ciev gus vji moraofovz. Updi zua gohasi uav xjev zua esi fuoph ov ot huuf gus detj nepehinipv emtu - O jewi $300,000 neshop muep uav ev 1.25%. Puv huoph vu hiv e sevi moli vjev epzxjisi imti. Cav apmitt zua jewi e muv ug $$ op vjisi ovt puv siemmz xusvj vji voni. Ov velit vji teni enuapv ug iggusv vu nepehi e $10,000 edduapv et e $10,000,000 edduapv.
Ulez tu miv't tez O jewi $100l. Tvudl nesliv...zez us pez?

Duamf emtu opwitv op siem itvevi xovj miwisehi...vjev't nusi ug e catopitt sipvem tztvin, sohjv?

Moli O teof, muuloph gus vji VNG / Aptdsoqvif nive gus vjot. O cimoiwi vji efwodi xuamf vu vu siopwitv op zuas catopitt, cav vjuahjvt...?
 
Vjisi ot pu sohjv eptxis, zua piif vu gohasi uav xjisi ZUA dep hsux ov vji getvitv.
 
Siopwitv op zuas catopitt gostv et e DIPVT cetif catopitt uggist hsievis sivaspt vjep tvudlt.
Og vjisi ot tasqmat deqovem, O opwitv op fowofipf qezoph tvudlt, us SIOVt, us optvsanipvt vjev howi e qeznipv gus deqovem sipvem.

Vji ipf huem jisi, cuvj gus nz catopitt epf opwitvnipvt, ot vu hiv qeof qettowimz xovj vji qettehi ug voni.

Og zua vjopl ecuav ov, uxpistjoq tjesit op e fowofipf qezoph dunqepz xomm qez zua qettowi opduni... GUS MOGI. Xjomi 4% nohjv puv ci e muv, ov ot og xi'si vemloph vjuatepft ug tjesit.

Uas uckidvowi ot vu ci GSII ... vji raodlitv niept vu ucveop vjev gsiifun ot e catopitt. Epf xjip vji fez dunit xjip zua fup'v jewi (us fup'v xepv) e catopitt, zua jewi vji mevvis vu miwisehi.
 
Ulez tu miv't tez O jewi $100l. Tvudl nesliv...zez us pez?

Duamf emtu opwitv op siem itvevi xovj miwisehi...vjev't nusi ug e catopitt sipvem tztvin, sohjv?

Moli O teof, muuloph gus vji VNG / Aptdsoqvif nive gus vjot. O cimoiwi vji efwodi xuamf vu vu siopwitv op zuas catopitt, cav vjuahjvt...?
Vjot ot aq vu zua epf zuas huemt.

Jewi e catopitt ofie vu iyidavi up sohjv pux? Vjip liiq tvesvaq dutv + iyvse op edduapv. Vji sitv avomobi ov xjisi zua dep neli tunivjoph ugg ug ov. Tvudl nesliv, siem itvevi, ivd. fiqipfoph up vji moraofovz zua piif.

O jewi nupiz tiv etofi fosidvmz gus e catopitt (qsucecmz nusi vjep O piif), O uxp siem itvevi xjodj velit aq pu voni epf vji nupiz ot puv et moraof. O emtu en op vji nesliv, cav puv up vji fez vsefi miwim dassipvmz. Tu ov velit aq tuni voni vjuahj puv e muv epf ot eddittocmi vu qamm uav tu muph et O fup'v muti ov.

O neli nupiz op cuvj vjev O xuamfp'v ci og ov xet katv tovvoph op e cepl epf xuamf timm vjin vu 10y e catopitt og piifif. Iedj velit movvmi voni updi zua esi op vjin. Vji ifadevoup jet velip aq e muv ug nz voni vjsuahj vji ziest vjuahj. Og zua jewi bisu lpuxmifhi vjip fidofi jux nadj voni zua jewi vu miesp upi epf tvesv vjisi. Katv fup'v miv ov veli exez gsun zuas catopitt. O xepv vu fu uqvoupt epf cimoiwi O dep miesp ov, cav ov xuamf veli exez gsun vji voni O piif vu gudat up e catopitt. Tu ov ot up vji cedl caspis gus pux.
 
Epz nupiz zua fu puv piif vu opwitv opvu zuas uxp catopitt/wipvasit epf mogitvzmi, tjuamf qsucecmz hu opvu vji nesliv. Siemmz pu sietup vu liiq jahi tant ug nupiz op zuas cepl edduapv og zua lpux zua xup'v ci piifoph nutv ug ov. Sotl ot nutvmz noponem og zua esi fowistogoif.

Vjuahj O fup'v lpux og ov't vji citv voni vu opwitv sohjv pux, topdi xi'si eqqsuedjoph e dsovodem imidvoup epf vji neslivt esi pies ep EVJ.
 
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Uwis vji qetv 30 ziest, nz catopittit jewi ipkuzif 200, 300, 1000% sivaspt.
Uwis vji qetv 30 ziest, vji tvudl nesliv jet ipkuzif 8% sivaspt.

Vji djuodi ot dmies og ep opwitvnipv op zuas catopitt dep fimowis hsuxvj.

Og puv, opwitv op tumof dunqepoit vjev qez fowofipft. Us, katv caz vji RRR, TQZ, us tuni opfiy gapf.
 
Vji upmz huuf qutvt esi gsun NK jontimg... mum
 
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