Power generation by using unusable heat

[peterb0yd]

so... then why are you here? Wouldn't those people have contacts you could leverage?

None of this makes any sense.

I've fallen for a trap like this before so I feel adequately prepared to answer this.

Let's call it, The "Brilliant" Engineer That Needs Your Funds Trap.

There are two possibilities... and the shitty part is that if the engineer is smart enough, you'll never get any sort of conclusion. You'll never really know which possibility is the real one.. You'll always be in a state of wonder.

Possibility #1) They are genuinely smart and came up with a solution that seems correct on paper. They might have made an error somewhere, but they're too caught up in their visions of grandeur that they never double-check their work. They'll also never give you enough information to check their work because their ego won't allow them to be proven wrong. They'll always give you an excuse for why they can't provide more info.

Possibility #2) They are a genuinely smart but evil person that wants you to pay their bills. They will promise you the world... but it's always just out of reach. They need more funding. They need to land a contract with an impossible company to work with. They need six more months. They need... [fill in the blank]

What should you do?

Walk away and don't look back. Ever.

They are energy and money vampires.

If they were legitimate, they wouldn't be talking to you in a place like this. Instead, they'd be like Lonnie Johnson who patented his invention and then went straight to the people who needed it.

You've been warned!

 

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[lowtek]

It's tested. No point of mistake here. And signing an NDA will cost you just the postage charge, nothing else. Why are you so much reluctant to sign an NDA. It's a formality. And you want details without this simple formality? That's ridiculous.

They have this thing, I don't know if you've heard of it, but it's called a scanner. It can be used to make a facsimile of a document. Then you can attach it to this new fangled thing called email, and send it anywhere in the world, at any time.

It's not the 1800s anymore. We don't have to send mail by horseback.

Postage. Get outta here with that.

 

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[lowtek]

You again?

If you were really a physics graduate, you would know that what you're claiming violates all kinds of physical laws.
What you're saying makes no sense. It's a perpetual motion machine: turning 1 kW of power into 3 kW. Obviously, you've either made a mistake somewhere or you're trying to scam someone.

Nobody is signing an NDA to see your mythical perpetual motion gadget. Provide all the details here and we'll judge for ourselves.

 

[lowtek]

I have already talked with a few business people and they are well satisfied after seeing it. But, they need to build a regular infrastructure with all kinds of suppliers in place so that the machine can be built on demand. That means entering the full business phase.
And, by the way, all them gladly signed the NDA.

so... then why are you here? Wouldn't those people have contacts you could leverage?

None of this makes any sense.

 

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[Johnny boy]

You just said it converts 8m/s of wind into 3kw. That's wind energy, not heat.

Show us a video of your experiment and prototype. Make a video. Post it to youtube. Document the results. Show us, don't tell us.

Otherwise it's just bullshit.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Here come Mr. Scambuster for howling "SCAM! SCAM!" without knowing anything.

Why can no machine be 100% efficient? + Example

Because of gravity and friction No machine is free from the effects of gravity, and even with wonderful lubrication, friction always exists. The energy a machine produces is always less than the energy put into it (energy input). Most machines transfer energy from one place or another, or...

socratic.org

Perpetual Motion Machines: Working Against Physical Laws

For centuries, people have been trying to invent perpetual motion machines. The laws of physics, though, are working against them.

www.livescience.com

Maybe you just defeated Edison, Newton, Einstein, and Tesla to become the greatest scientist of all time!

If so, you should be talking to the news media, MIT, going for your Nobel Prize, not posting here

 

[Lyinx]

So far, not a single cent has been demanded yet. Just show me an example and I will stop.

See below:

This. I need the finance for prototyping and testing. After prototyping and patent application filed, there wouldn't be big problem to market it. I know necessary resources.

done.

 

[Lyinx]

You provided a link to the patent, which provides an exact drawing of the product, I give a legit reason as to why I do not think it will work, and you simply said that it doesn't work that way. Feel free to explain further if I was wrong, but I do not see the need for an NDA, When the first model hits the store shelf, then anybody in public can buy one and dissemble it and see the goods. Additionally, you need to be willing to sue a person (in their own state/country) for breaking an NDA, which means you would have funds to make this machine work without additional funding.

Catch-22: if you have the funds to sue someone for infringing an NDA, then you never needed the funds to produce the product, and, if you don't have the funds to make the product, then it's pointless to worry about an NDA, so, feel free to explain away as to how it works, or post a video on the forum and we'll give your idea a whirl.

 

[Kevin88660]

I am an Indian physics graduate and I have been researching on my personal effort on a new kind of technology that can convert atmospheric heat into useful power/electricity and I have succeeded. It's actually a combination of a market available blower and a new kind of turbine that is the main part. The turbine has already been built and tested. A 1 meter diameter prototype can generate 3 kW output at 8 m/s wind. While a market available 1 meter diameter and just 50% efficient blower can generate 8 m/s airflow at the expense of just 500 W.
I am now looking for partnership to develop it further. Can anybody here help anyhow in this regards? I am requesting those who are interested to have some idea about the technology first and then decide. It's a new and disruptive technology so an investor certainly have full right to get necessary information about this technology.

I would be more interested if you are issuing a crypto token to fund this idea and I will buy it at fair launch.

 

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[Kevin88660]

How? Kindly tell me.

You can google online. How to launch a Binance chain token on pancake swap. How to design tokenomic, write white paper and design website and run a telegram group.

I am sure there are people in your university who know this. Just ask around.

 

[mdot]

Did you not get what you were looking for the last time you posted this?

 

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[peterb0yd]

I don't think you'll find an investor here.

You'll have better luck if you can get a face-to-face with someone that is currently working in the industry that has a physics background.

You're wasting your time here, though.

 

[WestCoast]

Revl - you might have some cool technology. I don't know (nor do I care honestly)

But, this is not going to be the best forum to solicit funding.
Everyone will be skeptical (I think you can agree, that's a reasonable position to take on the internet), and most of us are not engineers.


I'd encourage you to go to your university, local trade associations, green energy groups, and show them your concept. They will sign NDAs for you (generally, fwiw, it's seen as a very 'low brow' move to demand someone sign an NDA - when I hear someone demand that... I usually walk away, I don't need what they are selling).

But, you'll find some people who could connect you with backers, funders, or just other people in the space.
Network the old fashioned way - build relationships.
If your product is awesome - people will recognize it right away, and you'll find supporters.

It will take time, energy and passion to show people. But, that's ok. That's part of business.

--
I think that would be a much better use of your time, than trying to convince some people you've never met, that your technology is the next best thing.

 

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[Johnny boy]

I will gladly invest, kind sir. I only need you to provide your name, date of birth, SSN number, bank login information and your address so I can send you all of the money and we can get started building your genius machine of infinite power the world desperately needs.

 

[AmazingLarry]

This technology is obsolete man. You can just mount a turbine on the top of your car and generate free energy while you drive. No need for special blowers.

 

[RevI]

WIPO - Search International and National Patent Collections

This is an approved patent.

 

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[OMDA]

WIPO - Search International and National Patent Collections

This is an approved patent.

Then why hasn't it been made already?

My name is on several approved patents, most of which are for devices that will never see the light of day. This is because we come up with ideas and the company patents them before we even try to develop it into a real device. That doesn't mean that it is actually feasible/worthwhile to do.

I don't see how this device stays running. You'd need to input power to get it going, and then ??? Granted I haven't done the math, but it seems like perpetual motion.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

WIPO - Search International and National Patent Collections

This is an approved patent.

There are lots of patents that never get built in real life because they can't be built in real life.

I'm all for innovation and breaking the mold - I'm just pointing out something you learn very early on when you start reading about inventions and patents.

You can, in fact, get a patent for something that has never been proven to work.

 

[mdot]

It's called Venturi Effect.

I don't think that was the question - does @Lyinx 's description match your general premise?

 

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[Guest-5ty5s4]

I've fallen for a trap like this before so I feel adequately prepared to answer this.

Let's call it, The "Brilliant" Engineer That Needs Your Funds Trap.

There are two possibilities... and the shitty part is that if the engineer is smart enough, you'll never get any sort of conclusion. You'll never really know which possibility is the real one.. You'll always be in a state of wonder.

Possibility #1) They are genuinely smart and came up with a solution that seems correct on paper. They might have made an error somewhere, but they're too caught up in their visions of grandeur that they never double-check their work. They'll also never give you enough information to check their work because their ego won't allow them to be proven wrong. They'll always give you an excuse for why they can't provide more info.

Possibility #2) They are a genuinely smart but evil person that wants you to pay their bills. They will promise you the world... but it's always just out of reach. They need more funding. They need to land a contract with an impossible company to work with. They need six more months. They need... [fill in the blank]

What should you do?

Walk away and don't look back. Ever.

They are energy and money vampires.

If they were legitimate, they wouldn't be talking to you in a place like this. Instead, they'd be like Lonnie Johnson who patented his invention and then went straight to the people who needed it.

You've been warned!

You are correct, but this is kind of entertaining.

 

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[alexkuzmov]

I am an Indian physics graduate and I have been researching on my personal effort on a new kind of technology that can convert atmospheric heat into useful power/electricity and I have succeeded. It's actually a combination of a market available blower and a new kind of turbine that is the main part. The turbine has already been built and tested. A 1 meter diameter prototype can generate 3 kW output at 8 m/s wind. While a market available 1 meter diameter and just 50% efficient blower can generate 8 m/s airflow at the expense of just 500 W.
I am now looking for partnership to develop it further. Can anybody here help anyhow in this regards? I am requesting those who are interested to have some idea about the technology first and then decide. It's a new and disruptive technology so an investor certainly have full right to get necessary information about this technology.

Come on man. Join us in reality.
None of what you are saying makes sense, everyone can see it.

Living a fantasy outside reality is not living.
Saying something IS when its NOT is a path to nothing.

 

[alexkuzmov]

Everyone with blindfolds in their eyes can see it. I agree. And both "fantasy" and "innovation" needs some imagination capability that most like you lacks here.

So I take it you prefer the fantasy world?
Thats cool, at least you know where your road will lead you to.

 

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[RevI]

On the suggestion of @Kevin88660, I am now thinking about launching crypto token against this technology. Can anybody help me anyhow in this regards? If they can give me some basic idea about how to do it, that will be enough.

 

[RevI]

I am an Indian physics graduate and I have been researching on my personal effort on a new kind of technology that can convert atmospheric heat into useful power/electricity and I have succeeded. It's actually a combination of a market available blower and a new kind of turbine that is the main part. The turbine has already been built and tested. A 1 meter diameter prototype can generate 3 kW output at 8 m/s wind. While a market available 1 meter diameter and just 50% efficient blower can generate 8 m/s airflow at the expense of just 500 W.
I am now looking for partnership to develop it further. Can anybody here help anyhow in this regards? I am requesting those who are interested to have some idea about the technology first and then decide. It's a new and disruptive technology so an investor certainly have full right to get necessary information about this technology.

 

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[Lyinx]

what are you looking for in a partner (not that I'm interested, just need you to figure some things out)
1. finance (someone to put money into it)
2. experience, manufacturing
3. experience, marketing
4. experience, networking (someone who knows people)

 

[RevI]

1. finance (someone to put money into it)

This. I need the finance for prototyping and testing. After prototyping and patent application filed, there wouldn't be big problem to market it. I know necessary resources.

 

[RevI]

what are you looking for in a partner (not that I'm interested, just need you to figure some things out)
1. finance (someone to put money into it)
2. experience, manufacturing
3. experience, marketing
4. experience, networking (someone who knows people)

Can you help me in this regards?

 

[RevI]

You just said it converts 8m/s of wind into 3kw. That's wind energy, not heat.

Show us a video of your experiment and prototype. Make a video. Post it to youtube. Document the results. Show us, don't tell us.

Otherwise it's just bullshit.

Kindly note that the turbine prototype of 1 meter diameter can generate 3 kW output at 8 m/s wind velocity and a market available 1 meter diameter and just 50% efficient blower can generate 8 m/s flow at the expense of just 500 W. From where the extra energy comes from?
To get proper understanding of the technology, you need to have the details and as you have said, a video is also available. But, I will only show that to a prospective partner. If you want that to be, then kindly inbox me.

 

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[RevI]

You again?

If you were really a physics graduate, you would know that what you're claiming violates all kinds of physical laws.
What you're saying makes no sense. It's a perpetual motion machine: turning 1 kW of power into 3 kW. Obviously, you've either made a mistake somewhere or you're trying to scam someone.

Nobody is signing an NDA to see your mythical perpetual motion gadget. Provide all the details here and we'll judge for ourselves.

It's tested. No point of mistake here. And signing an NDA will cost you just the postage charge, nothing else. Why are you so much reluctant to sign an NDA. It's a formality. And you want details without this simple formality? That's ridiculous.

 

[RevI]

This turbine is a concentrated wind turbine and a paper on one such concentrated wind power system published on a renowned journal has been given below.

SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class research journals

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journals.sagepub.com

And here is one video on a type of concentrated wind power system. They claim that by concentrating the wind, they get 5-6 times more power than a conventional wind turbine.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xT9FbApY5E