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@Rim time to grow up and accept some criticism.

EVERYONE, please realize this forum and this community are not about YOU. we are here to help each other. maybe you find no value in @maverick 's remark. what if others DO?

what if 5 years from now, someone comes along, reads down to that spot and realizes they ARE making a bunch of f*cking excuses and need to step it up? what if their life changes?

you don't have to take everything said to heart, use it, listen to it, defend against it. there are nuggets of advice and information that will help you. focus on the positive space!

first lesson ..... make it about providing value for others NOT yourself
 

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@Fox im currently 18 and always wanted to be an entreupenur especially in ecommerce and create a brand online, but I see that web design is very popular here on this forum and was wondering if its worth getting into that first? and maybe learn a thing or 2 that can help me later on.
Don’t go for popular. Go for ‘how you can help someone’ .
 

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ah I understand better, ok i'm going to work, can you help me transform 1$ to 2$ please ?
what have you done so far?
what research / leg work / training / things have you done and tried? what were their results?
what are your next three actions to complete the task?

here:
View: https://youtu.be/Pa8xMyTh6aE
 

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Hey @Rim

One good proven way to get going - pick a skill (web design, copywriting, seo etc) and get out there and start helping real businesses.

It’s not millions but it’s a good place to start.
 

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At this point in my life, I'm very picky about who I help. They must be helping themselves before I put in my time to mentor them. But, that wasn't always so. I found, when I was newbie, I gave away a lot work in exchange for the learning experience. I did a lot of horse trading -- I'll do this for you IF you do that for me. Yes, sometimes I got burned. BUT, I really learned a lot in the process. And I have made life-long friends. I now still horse trade a lot for many things. One rule to game is offer to do for the other guy first. How do know what to offer them? I listen to them and I ask questions. I listen with my whole heart.
 

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In order to get mentoring one of the following has to happen:

1. The mentor wants to mentor you because of personal satisfaction
2. You pay for mentorship.


If you need help turning $1 into $2 then you’ll have a hard time finding 1, and a lot of number 2s that might not be suitable for you.

It’s also hard to find no. 1 when you already know how to turn $1 into $2.


There has to be something to gain for the mentor too. Either personal satisfaction or money. Or both.


Edit: people need to understand that mentorship is for guidance. Sure, you can teach a man how to fish but don’t expect to be given fish.

think of a mentor like you would a fitness coach. If you don’t know how to lift, he can teach you how to lift and better.
But if you have no arms, not much to do there.

Sorry for the weird example but it made sense in my head :rofl:
 
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@Rim time to grow up and accept some criticism.

EVERYONE, please realize this forum and this community are not about YOU. we are here to help each other. maybe you find no value in @maverick 's remark. what if others DO?

what if 5 years from now, someone comes along, reads down to that spot and realizes they ARE making a bunch of f*cking excuses and need to step it up? what if their life changes?

you don't have to take everything said to heart, use it, listen to it, defend against it. there are nuggets of advice and information that will help you. focus on the positive space!

first lesson ..... make it about providing value for others NOT yourself
never take things personally (yet I read the 'Toltec agreements!), you are right about everything you said ZCP, thanks for this reminder,
please excuse me I'm only human after all and there are times when morale is not at the top and the slightest remark can irritate us,
I forgot that I was on a public forum and the main purpose is to help people and not me especially, so publicly I want to apologize to you @woken and @maverick I wish you the best
 

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so something like this?

1. identify what is my why?
2. use it to create the picture of 'my perfect day' (in INSANELY vivid detail and description) and figure out 'how much that costs?'
3. determine who can help me get 'that'
 

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1. Yes I understand that the mentor must want to be for me and that's the whole point of this thread :)

2. Regarding paying the mentor, does it depend on the type of mentorship you are looking for? In my mind I imagined that having a mentor was free, finally I took several training courses whose authors can be considered as mentors but I associated this much more with coaching, a coach I find it logical to pay him , a mentor too but how to put it, not necessarily, I imagine there are mentors who want to help just because they want to help like they were helped by their mentor at one time. An idea occurs to me, Robert Kiyosaki, had a rich father as a mentor and yet he did not pay it.

Finally, I am not paying attention to your last remark because it does not bring me any help except to make me more discouraged, it is a judgment on your part, an opinion which was expressed without knowing neither my skills, nor what I have already achieved or anything else in my life.
It reminds me of a sentence from Napoleon Hill: free advice is only worth what it is worth, that is to say nothing :)

Anyway, thank you for taking your time to answer me and help me because I'm sure it was your intention by answering me. I wish you the best, nice day
Rim,

whenever I’m replying to a post like yours, while it is specific to the question mentioned, I try to answer it without a ‘somebody’ in mind.

When I say “If you need help turning $1 into $2 then you’ll have a hard time finding 1, and a lot of number 2s.” It applies to everyone and it’s also true.

It’s hard to find somebody that is willing to invest his/ her free time into mentoring you without any personal gain. Hard, not impossible. You’ll definitely find more people willing to mentor you for money.
You mentioned Rich Dad. It’s not entirely sure there was actually a “rich dad” but rather a made up character that combines great influences throughout his life.

Coming back to the Napoleon Hill quote,
it’s also true, but you asked for it.

I might’ve expressed myself wrong, without any background of your situation, true.

Go back and re read what I’ve said and this time think of somebody else.


Edit: Went and read again everything else myself. You don’t really need a mentor.

You just need to do more of what you do already.

Have you thought about a podcast?
(again, free advice so take it for what it’s worth.)


I speak English fluently but I have an accent. If I didn’t, I’d do youtube voiceovers for anybody that would accept me. I’d focus on getting myself known and then start something of my own.
 
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So here, under the recommendations of @Fox whom I thank very much, I open this topic and I take action. Like everyone here, my dearest wish is to be financially free, I read books, followed training, some that I have not finished, but in the end I still do not live on what I earn, so I say to myself: could having a mentor help me?
I've had some great mentors. And I've done the same for many others. Mentors are not helpers. They give advice and guidance. It's NOT a hands-on relationship in my experience. You do the work and they simple add their expertise along the journey. As you do the work, you will follow the learning curve and gain your own expertise.
 

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Hey @Rim

One good proven way to get going - pick a skill (web design, copywriting, seo etc) and get out their and start helping real businesses.

It’s not millions but it’s a good place to start.
Spot on! Remember MJs CENTS formula and also the Ikigai principle -
Choose something that
You love
You're good at
People need
People will pay for
What are you top 3 practical skills?

Good luck
 

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@Rim been a day.
what has been completed?
what were the results?
what are your next three specific actions?
 

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and if YOU were your mentor, and that was the output for a full day after getting solid advice and direction, what would you say to your mentee?
 

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solid progress then! proud of you.

your answers and interaction so far are at about 11% of your capability. could i get your best 15% for the next 24 hrs? let's level up and raise our game!

Q: what are your next three specific actions to obtain your goal?
many thanks,

1 ° complete the finalization of my article
2 ° finish summarizing 2 chapters of the book that I intend to summarize on youtube
3 ° write a relevant comment on a blog of my theme to increase the authority of my blog
 

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Sounds like an excuse not to do anything
 

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@Rim i am really proud of you for posting your thoughts. the more we do that, the more we get them out of our head and begin to ACT on them. you got this!!
 

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Sur place ! Rappelez-vous la formule MJs CENTS et aussi le principe Ikigai -
Choisissez quelque chose qui
Tu aimes
Tu es bon à
Les gens ont besoin
Les gens paieront pour
Quelles sont vos 3 principales compétences pratiques ?

Bonne chance
thanks, my 3 skills and well I would say: motivate people, do voice-overs and build blogs

Edit: I should reread TMF because in my memories I had understood that you had to first choose a business that pays off and then, once you are rich, do what you love
 

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solid progress then! proud of you.

your answers and interaction so far are at about 11% of your capability. could i get your best 15% for the next 24 hrs? let's level up and raise our game!

Q: what are your next three specific actions to obtain your goal?
 

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So here, under the recommendations of @Fox whom I thank very much, I open this topic and I take action. Like everyone here, my dearest wish is to be financially free, I read books, followed training, some that I have not finished, but in the end I still do not live on what I earn, so I say to myself: could having a mentor help me?
Welcome.


Who have you helped this week?

Who will you help next week?


Over the years I've come to the conclusion that business is simple:

Help people. Get paid. Help more people.

Start. Sell. Scale.

It's difficult because we don't keep it simple.


@KushShah9492 already linked to the podcast/chat I always link people to when they're tangled up at the start.

Here it is again:
Have you listened to that yet? If you have, what's your takeaways?
 
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Welcome.


Who have you helped this week?

Who will you help next week?


Over the years I've come to the conclusion that business is simple:

Help people. Get paid. Help more people.

Start. Sell. Scale.

It's difficult because we don't keep it simple.


@KushShah9492 already linked to the podcast/chat I always link people to when they're tangled up at the start.

Here it is again:
Have you listened to that yet? If you have, what's your takeaways?
thanks for the podcast
does helping my family at home matter?
Otherwise I helped a person edit a blog post, in fact with this question I realize that I have to keep a diary with the people I am helping because I cannot remember (I am helping the others on the internet) otherwise I remember that a person asked me for help by email on a subject I will answer him

oh yes and I helped several people who wanted voiceovers for their clients
 

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many thanks,

1 ° complete the finalization of my article
2 ° finish summarizing 2 chapters of the book that I intend to summarize on youtube
3 ° write a relevant comment on a blog of my theme to increase the authority of my blog
following thread, good "luck!"

These goals do sound like work, but are these the most direct tasks to get a client/sale? That improvement is the fastest way to get results for your work... and motivation.
 

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following thread, good "luck!"

These goals do sound like work, but are these the most direct tasks to get a client/sale? That improvement is the fastest way to get results for your work... and motivation.
many thanks, you are right, these actions you most likely will help me to have clients in the future but not in the immediate future, moreover, to have clients in the theme of my blog now and well I do not find that realistic because I don't find me competent to sell anything, help share advice yes but something comes up i can't visualize it
 

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Hey @Rim

One good proven way to get going - pick a skill (web design, copywriting, seo etc) and get out their and start helping real businesses.

It’s not millions but it’s a good place to start.
@Rim this could be a clue for your next step
 

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yes but which one?
Well, something like:
- Pick a skill
- Create a (simple) profile around that skill
- Find clients, either on freelance websites, directories (e.g.,Clutch, Capterra), or pitching their websites.

Something like @Lex DeVille shows here

What works for me as a marketing writing is Upwork. I look for:
- Someone who knows what they want
- Can afford it/ have an established business already
- Have their contact information

You can then use that contact data to reach out on email or phone. And because they're looking for people like you, the pitch converts better.

Step one is picking a skill. The best skill to sell value (and not work hours) is probably web design.
 

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Well, something like:
- Pick a skill
- Create a (simple) profile around that skill
- Find clients, either on freelance websites, directories (e.g.,Clutch, Capterra), or pitching their websites.

Something like @Lex DeVille shows here

What works for me as a marketing writing is Upwork. I look for:
- Someone who knows what they want
- Can afford it/ have an established business already
- Have their contact information

You can then use that contact data to reach out on email or phone. And because they're looking for people like you, the pitch converts better.

Step one is picking a skill. The best skill to sell value (and not work hours) is probably web design.
thank you for taking your time to help me, I am taking note of your advice
 
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of course, the exchange of service, why haven't I thought about it, it is with pleasure that I can help you, tell me how I can help you
Instead you might try asking something like:
What is their worst "sticking point" in their business?
How did they start?
What is the most interesting part of their business?
What would they change IF they could start their business again?
What part have they grown to love?
What keeps them up at night?
And on and on... one open ended question after another... one question leads to another...

If you can get them talking about themselves, it's their favorite subject. And that's how you figure out what you can trade with them.

Or just ask if you can follow them around and be their "Girl/Guy Friday" for free. Be their extra set of hands. Think of all you can learn from being at their elbow for a time. That gives you a chance to figure out how they think and how they approach a problem. And you can ask more questions as they come up. I'd sure rather find out how successful people think and approach problems rather than trying to re-invent the wheel.
 

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