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This originated in the "Fastlane Website" thread and has developed into a friendly debate. I created this thread to maintain the other as a reference source. Thanks guys.
 

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Amway?

Do you own the pyramid or are you building some other guys pyramid?

Not hating on it, just asking a question. Maybe they are more to it than I know? Please educate me on how the site falls under the "fastlane" definition.
 

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Amway?

Do you own the pyramid or are you building some other guys pyramid?

Not hating on it, just asking a question. Maybe they are more to it than I know? Please educate me on how the site falls under the "fastlane" definition.
true that Fastlane states you should own the pyramid. I qualified that in anothe rpost earleir that I do not consider this exactly fastlane.

However Amway has changed their structure over the past few years. I know this because I looked at them in the mid nineties. In a pyramid I could not make more money than my upline. Now that is not the case. Also their prices are much more competitive. The people in my group are getting away from the "Push the program", mentality and are more about "push the products and the IBOs will come"

I know MJ is not a fan of MLM but that is not to say you cannot make money as one. If I recall correctly MJ was at one time in 6 or 7 MLM programs. What I see is that he did not apply the one trick pony principle. Im just sticking with one. Still trading in forex too but As a daily method for now until I can free myself as I got into trouble working for "the man" on that as a fastlane plan. This new venture allows me to get out in the world and network and at the same time make a profit. Its very difficult to fastlane if you do not network. Real life network. I tried with Online Virtual networking and forex but I find people to be flaky and act differently. I can show you the daily method I trade with forex too. Been having some good success with it but its too early to tell if I have just been lucky or the method is solid. Got ten more weeks to go until I get a decent sized sample of trades.

I havne t read The millionaire fastlane yet but I have purchased it. If I am successful I could author a book on it which would be considered fastlane. As I have no experience with MLM I am in no position to start one given my current situation.
 

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I know MJ is not a fan of MLM but that is not to say you cannot make money as one.
Sure you can. I've made money playing the lottery and pulling the one-arm bandit at the casino.

The goal of the Fastlane is to increase your probabilities -- your mathematics for creating wealth to which you are bound -- your mathematics in that venture is pathetically weak, just like in a lottery. Dare I say lottery winners are broke? Of course not; they defied mathematical improbabilities. To join Amway is to do that same.

That said, if your goal is to possibly earn extra $ every month (at probably a terrible hourly rate per time invested) then there is nothing wrong with it.
 

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I know better than to argue the point with anyone here. I think the MLM is better than being a corporate slave. and the enviroment of people wanting to help each other is a lot better than corporate slavery also. So its a step in the right direction.

And I know I am still a corporate slave to amway. But the enviroment is a t least one I can thrive in. An enviroment that my current corporatie employer has left behind in favor of the throw the guy under you under the bus enviroment.

As I have stated this is an exercise in NETWORKING and at the same time make a profit. Big or small. That is the more important point.

I find people find me online as maybe argumentative or brash or unrefined or whatever but in real life most people like me. Its weird that way which is why I chose to exercise my networking as I have little in the way of doing that in the real world. The virtual world allows us that extra bit of anonymity to be a little more bold than we normally would in the real world or a little more anonymous too. And I need practice there . this is not and end but a means.

As you yourself have stated MJ you were in MLM yourself. Aside form the fact that it did not make the millions you had hoped for. (I am only working to replace my fiance's income which is half of mine at my JOB) can you honestly say you LEARNED nothing from the experience about interacting in the real world doing MLM?


Not sure if this belongs in this thread as it is way off the topic of links to fastlane businesses LOL
 

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can you honestly say you LEARNED nothing from the experience about interacting in the real world doing MLM?
Absolutely not ... I never said that. There is great learning experience in MLM as well as networking. Sales is a skill that all entrepreneurs need, and might even be as important. I believe, if you can succeed at MLM, you could succeed at anything.

I think the MLM is better than being a corporate slave.
I will argue that he who is the slaveowner is not relevant. You replaced one slaveowner for another.

But the enviroment is a t least one I can thrive in.
That's great -- if the venture makes you happy and you love the process, my opinion is not relevant. Everyone is different, with different goals and happiness quotients.

While listing the site as a "fastlane website" doesn't necessarily qualify, Ill let the link stand because it is important to you, and you have been a very valuable member of this forum. :smxF:
 

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Tyler GOES OFF!! -- Never-Seen Video Reveals Howard Hughes Style RANT! | RSD Nation

This video is rated R... You have been warned.

I really like these guys. they taught me a lot about the real world as opposed to the keyboard jockey world.

Its real easy to sit back and tell people what they SHOULD do as opposed to what they actually did. If you can read a book and do exactly what it tells you and get the exact results that person who wrote the book did then my hat is off to you. My point is that there are certain nuances that may or may not have been translated and put down on paper. the real world is quite different than what things "ought" to be. The real world is a rough and tumble mass of chaos and you can only achieve a real understanding of it by experiencing it. Not vicariously from some book but actual experience.


Not to say books are bad. they can call out the pit falls while you are experiencing them. but as I have said about pick up. The field is KING. Doing is more important than theory. Otherwise you you are no more than Suze Orman (whose advice I also follow in regards to my 401 k . Everything is still in bonds until the train wreck is cleared.) When you combine the two it increases your speed if you do not possess the knowledge in the first place. At least this is my take on it. As I am a little older than MJ I cannot say I am doing better but my EXPERIENCE has at least led me here.
 

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Tyler GOES OFF!! -- Never-Seen Video Reveals Howard Hughes Style RANT! | RSD Nation

This video is rated R... You have been warned.

I really like these guys. they taught me a lot about the real world as opposed to the keyboard jockey world.

Its real easy to sit back and tell people what they SHOULD do as opposed to what they actually did. If you can read a book and do exactly what it tells you and get the exact results that person who wrote the book did then my hat is off to you. My point is that there are certain nuances that may or may not have been translated and put down on paper. the real world is quite different than what things "ought" to be. The real world is a rough and tumble mass of chaos and you can only achieve a real understanding of it by experiencing it. Not vicariously from some book but actual experience.


Not to say books are bad. they can call out the pit falls while you are experiencing them. but as I have said about pick up. The field is KING. Doing is more important than theory. Otherwise you you are no more than Suze Orman (whose advice I also follow in regards to my 401 k . Everything is still in bonds until the train wreck is cleared.) When you combine the two it increases your speed if you do not possess the knowledge in the first place. At least this is my take on it. As I am a little older than MJ I cannot say I am doing better but my EXPERIENCE has at least led me here.
That video is funny as hell. You rock for posting it :) I agree...my take is that Fastlane is not about going from zero to 100 in the blink of an eye. There's an acceleration period. My opinion is that EVERYONE (yes, I mean EVERYONE) who wants to run a biznas should spend a year in the trenches...selling. I'm talking about DIRECT selling...face to face sh*t. It forces you to come to terms with your own insecurities, it teaches you invaluable lessons about psychology, and it teaches you unequivocally, without a doubt, that you can go out and make some cash anytime you need to do so. That type of confidence is essential. Is it Fastlane foundationally (yes I just made up the word "foundationally"!) ? No, it's not. I completely agree with MJ that MLM is not inherently Fastlane, but it does provide important elements.

I talk to Randy Gage pretty frequently. If you know MLM, you probably know Randy. He's a huge advocate of the business model obviously, and he lives a damn fine lifestyle in MLM. So what gives? He's on top, man. He's one of the founders. He has thousands of people working for him. If you have THAT kind of opportunity, and you know how to execute on it, then MLM is Fastlane. Otherwise, you're schlepping. Every Fastlane dude or dude-ette has a schlep period. MLM is one way to get it over with. I think it's a great business model. If I had to do it over again, I'd probably join Amway at 18 instead of the path I chose. Either way, learn to sell. THAT is essential.
 

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Yes I think we all agree it is not fastlane. Myself included. But a launch pad. I also think Suze Orman is at least a step in the right direction although once you are out of the ditch and at least a pedestrian you can begin the Journey.

As this is more for my fiance than it is for me I am being supportive in her decision. At least she wants to take control over her finances. And As I have only had a decent paying Job I cant give her fastlane advice. I see it as a stepping stone to Fastlane ideas later. Also I see my own shortcomings in not getting out in the trenches and networking it will be a stepping stone for me too.

The REAL pyramid scheme is working in a corporate world hourly or salary. You will never make more than your boss and are always subject to his or her whims.

Gotta crawl before you walk before you run before you drive before you fly.
 

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Yes I think we all agree it is not fastlane. Myself included. But a launch pad. I also think Suze Orman is at least a step in the right direction although once you are out of the ditch and at least a pedestrian you can begin the Journey.

As this is more for my fiance than it is for me I am being supportive in her decision. At least she wants to take control over her finances. And As I have only had a decent paying Job I cant give her fastlane advice. I see it as a stepping stone to Fastlane ideas later. Also I see my own shortcomings in not getting out in the trenches and networking it will be a stepping stone for me too.

The REAL pyramid scheme is working in a corporate world hourly or salary. You will never make more than your boss and are always subject to his or her whims.

Gotta crawl before you walk before you run before you drive before you fly.
"Launch pad" is a great way to put it. I'm a huge fan of launch pads; everyone needs one. There are a lot of ways to learn the basics of running a business. MLM is great for that in my perception, because it's very low risk comparatively. If you want to run your own company and literally have no capital or experience, getting into MLM could be a great training ground for you. Still though, not all MLM companies are created equal. The need for due diligence and tact is still very much a reality.
 

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I think if you hang around quite a bit on PUAHate.com then you will see Tyler's gf. She is not hot at all. Her face looks like a tranny. And if you think this guy is getting hotties, think again. He is not teaching you real world stuff as what you think. He is teaching you keyboard jockey stuff. Oh by the way, you can also see the pic of his ex gf on PUAHate which he rated 9 out of 10. She is more like a 5 to me (and I am known to be generous with rating). And Papa his business partner never gets laid. And Jeffy was dating a chubby (read:fat) girl. She just dumped him.

Tyler GOES OFF!! -- Never-Seen Video Reveals Howard Hughes Style RANT! | RSD Nation

This video is rated R... You have been warned.

I really like these guys. they taught me a lot about the real world as opposed to the keyboard jockey world.

Its real easy to sit back and tell people what they SHOULD do as opposed to what they actually did. If you can read a book and do exactly what it tells you and get the exact results that person who wrote the book did then my hat is off to you. My point is that there are certain nuances that may or may not have been translated and put down on paper. the real world is quite different than what things "ought" to be. The real world is a rough and tumble mass of chaos and you can only achieve a real understanding of it by experiencing it. Not vicariously from some book but actual experience.


Not to say books are bad. they can call out the pit falls while you are experiencing them. but as I have said about pick up. The field is KING. Doing is more important than theory. Otherwise you you are no more than Suze Orman (whose advice I also follow in regards to my 401 k . Everything is still in bonds until the train wreck is cleared.) When you combine the two it increases your speed if you do not possess the knowledge in the first place. At least this is my take on it. As I am a little older than MJ I cannot say I am doing better but my EXPERIENCE has at least led me here.
 

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You are still young, you must see beyond the shit. Tyler is obviously delusional.

Randy Gage makes more from selling seminars and info products than MLM. Selling books (or info products) is fastlane as MJ said before. Don't be deceived.

That video is funny as hell. You rock for posting it :) I agree...my take is that Fastlane is not about going from zero to 100 in the blink of an eye. There's an acceleration period. My opinion is that EVERYONE (yes, I mean EVERYONE) who wants to run a biznas should spend a year in the trenches...selling. I'm talking about DIRECT selling...face to face sh*t. It forces you to come to terms with your own insecurities, it teaches you invaluable lessons about psychology, and it teaches you unequivocally, without a doubt, that you can go out and make some cash anytime you need to do so. That type of confidence is essential. Is it Fastlane foundationally (yes I just made up the word "foundationally"!) ? No, it's not. I completely agree with MJ that MLM is not inherently Fastlane, but it does provide important elements.

I talk to Randy Gage pretty frequently. If you know MLM, you probably know Randy. He's a huge advocate of the business model obviously, and he lives a damn fine lifestyle in MLM. So what gives? He's on top, man. He's one of the founders. He has thousands of people working for him. If you have THAT kind of opportunity, and you know how to execute on it, then MLM is Fastlane. Otherwise, you're schlepping. Every Fastlane dude or dude-ette has a schlep period. MLM is one way to get it over with. I think it's a great business model. If I had to do it over again, I'd probably join Amway at 18 instead of the path I chose. Either way, learn to sell. THAT is essential.
 

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Hey I;ll take a chubby that can cook over a hottie that cant. You ever wonder why the skinny ones are skinny? Cuz they cant cook~! What I look for in a one Nighter is way different than a LTR.

I never personally met up with RSD guys but They helped me tremedously. Never took a boot camp. Just read a lot of their stuff and it works. Just sayin. I wasn't looking to be the best PUAH out there. just spit enough game to get me a hottie that can cook. Ill take a compatable 7 over a bratty 10 anyday.


The group I am in only allows people to speak who have made at least platinum ($7k a month profit) So I think I am in good hands.
 

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The group I am in only allows people to speak who have made at least platinum ($7k a month profit) So I think I am in good hands.

You know I hate to sound like a pretentious dick, but when I was fully engaged in a Fastlane business, I was earning this in ONE DAY. When you're focus is climbing pyramids instead of building them, $7K/month ($84,000/yr) sounds great but in reality, it's not a millionaire-making sum. What makes $7,000 a day? Selling 70 "Top Gun MLM Secrets Revealed!" 100X a day to the millions of disgruntled MLM'ers who are making fifty bucks per month and are fighting a congested road.
 

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Not pretentious at all. But if im going to sell something like that I want it to be a profitable venture for both.

I would want to sell something that actually works. And if all I do is package up some theory and resell it Im no better than Suze Orman. How about a book entitled" how to bundle a bunch of crap that sounds really cool but none of which I have actually done or I really failed at it but decided to sell it to make a shitload of cash"and make shitloads of money selling it to everyone.

For some reason I still have some moral compass telling me I couldnt sell something unless I was successful at it myself.

Not pointed at you MJ as you are successful and have the right to sell your knowledge for it has a track record.

I could always go back to my "save the kittens" Book but I am afraid of what I would have to tell my daughter. LOL (still have that website)
 

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i agree with MJ if you can be successful with MLM you will be successful anywhere, why you ask, well because its just non stop new customer acquisition.

This is because normally it is a scam or the product sucks so their are no referrals. That means if you are successful here you could be that successful plus getting all referrals and the product and/or service selling itself.

I also agree with you eagle that you will learn the most important thing in business, sales. Learn the sales, get good at it and move on. MLM is tough so once you do well i believe it will help later in life.
 

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Selling 70 "Top Gun MLM Secrets Revealed!" 100X a day to the millions of disgruntled MLM'ers who are making fifty bucks per month and are fighting a congested road.
For some reason I still have some moral compass telling me I couldnt sell something unless I was successful at it myself.
I wasn't suggesting that YOU do this ... but the so-called heavy hitters find out that selling the seminars/training/ebooks has more profit potential than the constant chug-fill-and-replenish of MLM.

This is because normally it is a scam or the product suck
True for some, but not all. I could say that the MLM's I was in, I truly believed in the product.
 

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Hey guys -- let's keep other people's wifes and how they look, out of the conversation. It really isn't relevant and is more suited for a car/mens forum. Lets try to keep this professional. Thank you for your understanding.




Sorry MJ,

I deleted his post before I saw that you had addressed it. Let me know if you want it put back up.

Thanks


Sparlin
 

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Sorry MJ, The reason I brought up the video is that although it is brash and unprofessional The message can be converted from picking up women to Sales. In essence you are selling yourself when you are out in the field .

The Part where he talks about the pieces of the puzzle is the area I want to address. When you raise a child he raises some very good points about what you need to do with one. And if those points are not met things can wrong, possibly even horribly wrong. One of my missing pieces of the puzzle was Having a healthy social group. As a Teen I had a lot of anger issues and didnt spend that time in my life wisely. I never really learned to interact i social situations well despite having a high IQ. I can do well in one on one situations and public speaking but put me in a group and I freeze up like Most people would freeze up doing public speaking. And I think this attribute is far more important than any book knowledge I have as it pertains to the Fastlane mindset.

As I stated before I tried "internet" networking but find people to be flaky, deceitful , or just plain unavailable. THIS is the reason for my interest in MLM. Not the money end but to learn a valuable business tool. Face to face in the mud social situations. Something I cannot do behind a keyboard.

My fiance has a sidewalk mentality but I love her too much. She's now at least merging onto the slow lane which I am so relieved to see. Since I have not aquired fast lane wealth I have no proof for her that I know what I am talking about in regards to fastlane ideas. What I figure is now that she will start associating with people more prone to fastlane ideas she will merge into the fastlane. And I can tell these people about the book and network with some people that Have skills I do not possess. So Im am using it as a means. Not an end.
 

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I've seen many MLM's come and go over the years. I even tried a few myself after my business was already up and running and making money. The bottom line is, unless your at the top your just making someone else more money than you are. I look at it as a glorified high paying job that masks itself into making you think your self employed. That is if you actually make money doing it. No offense to the ones who have done it or are doing and making money at it but if MLM is your thing then create the MLM don't become part of one.
 

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I've seen many MLM's come and go over the years. I even tried a few myself after my business was already up and running and making money. The bottom line is, unless your at the top your just making someone else more money than you are. I look at it as a glorified high paying job that masks itself into making you think your self employed. That is if you actually make money doing it. No offense to the ones who have done it or are doing and making money at it but if MLM is your thing then create the MLM don't become part of one.
There is a difference between MLM and a glorifed high paying job. That is one of atmosphere. Most Companies and corporations are about throwing those people below you under the bus to move ahead. It is not in thier best interest to help you improve so that they can move up. They want you just competent enough so you will do a good job but not get fired. Then they can blame you when things go wrong to make themselves look good.

in MLM it is in your upline's best interest for you to make money. For that is less work they have to do. And you should equally try to help your downlines for it is in your best interest that they be succesful. Whether they are successful is another story and how they did it. I am asking questions of ones I see who have been succesful at it and do what they did. Having home presentations selling soap is a lot easier than my current labor.

I agree in that you should start your own MLM for a fastlane mindset but if you do not know how one operates how can you start one? the quickest way is to get involved in one to see how it works. then later you can create your own.


But as I stated before, This is a means of networking and not an end. If Im profitable along the way then all the better. And as I stated on another post if you have no dependants then yeah, Live in your car, Move out of town and change your surroudings, eat rammen noodles and build your internet business using Mcdonalds wi fi. That plan will not work for me and my family. My truck isnt that big.
 

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But as I stated before, This is a means of networking and not an end. If Im profitable along the way then all the better. And as I stated on another post if you have no dependants then yeah, Live in your car, Move out of town and change your surroudings, eat rammen noodles and build your internet business using Mcdonalds wi fi. That plan will not work for me and my family. My truck isnt that big.
Sorry, but that's just another excuse that you can beat down; a straw-man argument that you can easily knock over convincing yourself that your options are limited, when they are not.

Where you choose to invest your time is a choice you make -- apparently, you feel the best investment of that time is Amway. Good luck, I hope you find it inspiring and educating.
 

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Sorry, but that's just another excuse that you can beat down; a straw-man argument that you can easily knock over convincing yourself that your options are limited, when they are not.

Where you choose to invest in your time is a choice you make -- apparently, you feel the best investment of that time is Amway. Good luck, I hope you find it inspiring and educating.
I have the education and the knowledge. What I lack is the Human resources of like minded people. I am surrounded by people who are stuck making $12 bucks an hour. This is my "changing my surroundings plan. I cant run away to Phoenix." So Im changing my surroundings by changing WHO is around me. Instead of a bunch of workign sclubs floundering their way through life I surround myslef with peopl who want to excell. Or am I missing something?

I really do want to succeed and am willing to take risks and sacrfiices but there are certain things I have to take care of. I am not chucking those despite the farting headwinds. It may take a little longer but its better in my case. Once you have kids you may understand a little more. I refuse to shirk that responsability. (the ability to respond) Just as your mother did for you.
 

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I wasn't suggesting that YOU do this ... but the so-called heavy hitters find out that selling the seminars/training/ebooks has more profit potential than the constant chug-fill-and-replenish of MLM.
And that is the final step into the fastlane for MLM. Sorry I should have caught this earlier.
 

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I have the education and the knowledge. What I lack is the Human resources of like minded people. I am surrounded by people who are stuck making $12 bucks an hour. This is my "changing my surroundings plan. I cant run away to Phoenix." So Im changing my surroundings by changing WHO is around me. Instead of a bunch of workign sclubs floundering their way through life I surround myslef with peopl who want to excell. Or am I missing something?

I really do want to succeed and am willing to take risks and sacrfiices but there are certain things I have to take care of. I am not chucking those despite the farting headwinds. It may take a little longer but its better in my case. Once you have kids you may understand a little more. I refuse to shirk that responsability. (the ability to respond) Just as your mother did for you.
I started my business working two jobs and supporting my significant other at the time and two kids, one of which was a new born, so I feel your need of having to take care of a family. I'm here to tell you that it has and can be done. I'm living proof. I was driving limo's as MJ was and building my business during the day then worked all hours of the night and repeated over and over again until I started making enough money to leave the limo industry forever........

Another issue I have with MLM's is that you still have people above you and below you that you can't control or count on to help make you more money the way you would. Depending on what they do and how hard they work directly effects your paycheck. To me this is a bad idea. You need to be the one in control of your paycheck, not rely on someone else. In a MLM your forced to rely on the others around you no matter if they are motivated or not. I don't know about you but If I'm working my a$$ off I better be the one to reap all the rewards, not the guy above me or below me.

I know this all may seem like your getting criticized for doing what your doing. I hope you don't take it that way as that is not my intention. I'm just trying to show you a mind set that MJ, myself and many other have that you can't see because your in the middle of it. Take a step back and look at the big picture, put a plan together so that you can start your own MLM or create your own fastlane. Then and only then will youl have benefited from being in the MLM your in now.
 

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I started my business working two jobs and supporting my significant other at the time and two kids, one of which was a new born, so I feel your need of having to take care of a family. I'm here to tell you that it has and can be done. I'm living proof. I was driving limo's as MJ was and building my business during the day then worked all hours of the night and repeated over and over again until I started making enough money to leave the limo industry forever........

Another issue I have with MLM's is that you still have people above you and below you that you can't control or count on to help make you more money the way you would. Depending on what they do and how hard they work directly effects your paycheck. To me this is a bad idea. You need to be the one in control of your paycheck, not rely on someone else. In a MLM your forced to rely on the others around you no matter if they are motivated or not. I don't know about you but If I'm working my a$$ off I better be the one to reap all the rewards, not the guy above me or below me.

I know this all may seem like your getting criticized for doing what your doing. I hope you don't take it that way as that is not my intention. I'm just trying to show you a mind set that MJ, myself and many other have that you can't see because your in the middle of it. Take a step back and look at the big picture, put a plan together so that you can start your own MLM or create your own fastlane. Then and only then will youl have benefited from being in the MLM your in now.
I do appreciate your words. I have worked hard all my life including having three jobs for a while in high school. (couldnt handle that for very long though. ) and two jobs and some real estate while my first wife stayed at home with our daughter. So I am not a stranger to this. This is more my fiance's thing than me and I see it as an opportunity to teach her fastlane ideas. I explained also to my stepson about the difference between climbing the pyramid and owning it.(while she was in earshot. OSmetimes I have to talk to her indirectly. Shes a little stubborn at times) And am instilling those fastlane beliefs in him. At least if i do not make it, He might. I do the same with my daughter opening a lemonade stand a few times every summer. Unfortuanely I have to battle with her mother who has a lot of physical problems and plays the victim more than I do! LOL



I have not given up on forex and developing an education program as well as a profitable EA. I just would not feel right teaching someone when I havent had the success myself. At least teaching it for a price which is why I started another thread on the topic. The CFTC rule changes along with some personal stuff at my regualr job kind of threw me a little off course and I am searching for alternatives. And this is the first opportunity I have had to actually be involved in a business with my fiance. I think that now shes not hanging around the crowd she was in as much I can sway her to more fastlane ideals.

The winds are a changing.
 

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Did you even read the replies in this thread?

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..Further reading: https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/mindset-motivation/15779-you-driving-fastlane-riding.html

..If you're too lazy or not interested:

"So are you DRIVING a Fastlane? Or are you a PASSENGER in it?

Passengers join MLM companies. Drivers create them.
Passengers buy FRANCHISES. Drivers sell them.
Passengers join AFFILIATE programs. Drivers offer them."
 
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