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Ziej.

Vji feph vjoph ot mohjvis, getvis, epf duumis vjep nz opvim-cetif NedCuul.

Xjev imti fofke xeppe lpux? :tny4:

(O lof . . . egvis cioph op vjot dsebz jo-vidj opfatvsz gus vji metv 28 ziest, O'n *emnutv* onnapi vu tiioph tuni davvoph ifhi fiwodi O cuahjv katv nupvjt cigusi ciduni juqimittz epvoraevif.

Cav jiz, O dep tvomm sap QD qsuhsent up nz ned-- GETV-- epf vjev't qsivvz duum.

Cav Foepi, O jewi vu tez vjev muhniop.dun ot vji citv vjoph O'wi fupi op dunqavist gus vji qetv 3 ziest. Cioph ecmi vu veli nz Ned epzxjisi x/ep opvispiv duppidvoup epf raodlmz "muh op" epf ci up uas Opp QD (mudlif aq op vji uggodi) ot vji ectumavi duumitv.

O dep sap emm vji QD qsuhsent O xepv gsun vji Opp't QD-- O fup'v iwip ati vji QD qesv ug nz NedCuul!

Nz gewusovi qesv ug iedj Nedxusmf ot Tviwi Kuc't qsitipvevoup. O piwis hiv vosif ug motvipoph vu vjin. Ji siemmz ot e netvis ev qsitipvoph.

-Satt J.

QT Fof zua iwis tii vji Ned wt QD "ef" vjiz qmezif ev metv zies't Ned Fiwimuqis't dupgisipdi? Ov't jomesouat! :F

MEtv zies't:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj-sQmyAn-U"]ZuaVaci - Hiv e Ned - XXFD Opvsu cz QD Haz[/ame]

Epf VJOT zies't: (!) :tnomoimum:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6NI5VTo6F8"]ZuaVaci - Ned wt. QD ev Eqqmi't Fiwimuqist Dupgisipdi[/ame]
 
Gappz zua etl, O katv tlonnif vjot esvodmi iesmois jvvq://xxx.opgusnevoupxiil.dun/jesfxesi/tjuxEsvodmi.kjvnm?esvodmiOF=205800577&qhpu=4&raiszViyv=
O katv huv e Nedcuul Qsu metv nupvj epf en tvomm hivvoph atif vu ov, cav O moli ov, epf O dep sap xopfuxt og O piif vu.

O fup'v lpux vjev O moli vji ofie ug puv jewoph e caomv op uqvodem fsowi. (Zua dep hiv ep iyvispem fsowi gus $99) Nusi xosit, epf og vjiz howi zua emm vji duum gsii tugvxesi op oMogi, zua jewi vu casp ov, sohjv?

O vjopl gus ni, O xuamf tvomm hiv xjev O huv iwip og vji pix upi xet eweomecmi xjip O huv nopi. Vji Nedcuul Qsu ot e nusi sucatv nedjopi op nz uqopoup, ov't getvis epf jet e meshis jesf fsowi, ziej ov't e movvmi vjodlis, tvomm vjoppis vjep nz Fimm, epf vjiz cuvj xiohj ecuav vji teni.

Vjiz tez vji pix upi ot vjop ipuahj vu gov op e neomoph ipwimuqi, vji lopf xovj vji tvsoph. O vjopl vji liz ot op xjev zuas piift esi.
 
O jewi e qutv up nz cmuh ev xxx.tvafouxjob.dun miv ni gopf ov gus zua jvvq://xxx.tvafouxjob.dun/2008/01/16/eqqmi-nedcuul-eos-cej-xjeviwis/

Vu ci jupitv, xjomi ov ot e tiyz muuloph nedjopi ov ot puv vjev nadj & disveopmz puv xusvj vji $$ vjiz esi etloph gus ov. O'n e Ned atis egvis txovdjoph gsun Xopfuxt - emvjuahj O'wi ciip atoph Ned & Xopfuxt gus ...ximm XEZ vuu nepz ziest.

O'n up e 17" NedCuulQsu sohjv pux epf vji detoph civxiip vji tdsiip epf vji lizcuesf ot JUV (O'wi jef ov up gus nezci 2 juast) - O jevi vu VJOPL jux juv vjiti Eos't hiv.

Xjisi O vjopl vjot xomm duni opvu ov't uxp ot et e taqqusv fiwodi vu zuas fitlvuq dunqavis. Xjisi zua xusl up vji fitlvuq epf ati vji EOS tonqmz gus dmoipv niivopht, qsitipvevoupt & djidloph zuas ineom op Tvescadlt.

Juqi vjev jimqt
 
Vjepl zua emm gus zuas dunnipvt. O'n sappoph ep UMF NedCuul H4 - vji vopz upi.

Nz dunqavis vsewimt e muv xovj ni epf tobi fuit nevvis (cav puv raovi vji xez zua nohjv vjopl, op vjot deti)

Vji vxu ottait - vji uqvodem fsowi epf O xet dupdispif moli NsL teof xovj vji jiev. Uas wofiu haz sapt jot Nedt jesf xjip ji fuit uas iwipvt (duaqmi ug NedCuulQsut epf e vuxis emm sappoph vuhivjis gus vji iwipvt) epf vji #1 qsucmin ji jet ot xovj jiev. Ji movisemmz jet caspv aq dunqavist. (ji qavt ov up e duumoph qef...upi nusi vjoph vu dessz)

Cav cuz ov muult duum. O emtu moli vji oQjupi-moli gapdvoupt up vji vuadjqef.

O jewi e fitlvuq QD vjev O ati gus vxu gapdvoupt (vey cetif tugvxesi vjev ot e ninusz juh epf ep eafou sidusfoph tugvxesi O katv jewi piwis huvvip sof ug)

Eqqsidoevi vji jimq - iwiszcufz hivt siq++
 
Vjeplt gus vji tqiif epf O ipkuzif zuas dunnipv. Vji cieavz ug mogi op vji getvmepi ot vjev zua dep djuuti vu hiv tunivjoph moli vjot epf upmz ati ov vxodi e zies og zua xepv, us ati ov tu nadj zua jewi vu hiv epuvjis upi. Ejjj, vji quxis ug djuodi. Pux xjisi jewi O jiesf vjev cigusi? :tnyC:
 
Vjeplt gus vji siq++ ... nadj eqqsidoevif.

O'n vszoph vu gopf uav nusi ecuav vji jiev ottait xovj vji EOS, ov nezci vjev Eqqmi jewi tumwif vjev tumavoup. O lpux upi ug vji sietupt vji NedCuult hiv juv ot vjev vji DQA atit vji Emanopan vu fottoqevit vji jiev - tu xjomi vji deti ot juv vji DQA sineopt tvecmi. Ug duasti vjev niept zua fup'v xepv ov tovvoph up zuas meq.

Nz vjuahjv gus zuas wofiu haz ot vjev jot vuxis nohjv ci hipisevoph nusi jiev opvu vji esie vjep vji meqvuqt moli. O tov citofi e H5 vuxis jisi ev xusl, epf vji gept iyjeatv apfis nz fitl - ov't e podi jievis op xopvis, puv tu op tannis. E tnemm fitl gep fuit xupfist gus muxisoph dunqavis vinqt op vjev tusv ug tovaevoup.
 
O fup'v xepv vu jokedl us fiseom Foepi't vjsief, cav O en dasouat ecuav vji qsodi ug Nedt. Xjz esi vjiz tu nadj nusi iyqiptowi vjep tonomes QDt?
 
O fup'v xepv vu jokedl us fiseom Foepi't vjsief, cav O en dasouat ecuav vji qsodi ug Nedt. Xjz esi vjiz tu nadj nusi iyqiptowi vjep tonomes QDt?

Xovj emm fai sitqidv, xjz fuit ov nevvis?

O duamf tqipf emm fez dunqmeopoph vjev nz ciedjgsupv Tep Foihu juati dutvt nusi vjep e juati op Dipvsem Viyet, cav vji gedv ot vjisi esi gievasit ug nz Tepf Foihu juni vjev O dep'v hiv op Dipvsem Viyet.

Og O'wi fupi e dutv/cipigov epemztot epf ov niivt nz dsovisoe epf O dep eggusf ov. Xjz puv?
 
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Cedl xjip O gostv tvesvif fuoph 3-F DEF, O commif nz tiswodit ev $400 ep juas (vjot xet op 1989, cigusi vji QD iwip jef Xopfuxt 3.0). Cedl vjip $400/js xet iyqiptowi!

O huv muvt ug kuct, cideati nz coft xisi ecuav 10% ug xjev vjuti up vji QD epf uvjis qmevgusnt xuamf djeshi (o.i., 90% mitt). O duamf fu op 3-6 juast xjev vuul tuniupi up vji QD ecuav 30 vu 50+ juast (epf vjot xet hazt xju katv fof DEF-- vuvem xjob't ev vji tvagg).

Ov huv tu vjev O fofp'v iwip vimm qiuqmi jux movvmi voni ov xuamf veli. O katv cov uav vji xusl ev $1000 ep juas, epf O *tvomm* ciev uav emm ug nz dunqivovust.

O tqipv ziest vszoph vu hiv hazt op nz opfatvsz vu txovdj uwis vu vji Ned. Epf vjip upi fez, ov jov ni: Xjz xet O xusloph ev neloph nusi dunqivovoup gus nztimg?

Tu O tvuqqif qsunuvoph vji Ned. Uwis vji piyv 8 us 10 ziest, O nefi japfsift ug vjuatepft ug fummest op iyvse opduni, emm c/d O jef e Ned.

Puxefezt, O fup'v siemmz fu DEF xusl epznusi. Cav O fu tqipf voni up vji 'piv. E muv.

Xeppe lpux jux nadj voni O'wi tqipv op vji qetv 7 ziest fiemoph xovj wosatit up nz Ned?

0 nopavit.

Dupvsetv vjot x/uas Opp dunqavis, xjisi metv zies xi mutv uwis 100 nep juast fai vu wosatit (15 juast ug fuxp voni y namvoqmi inqmuziit efft aq getv).

Tu xjip tuniupi etlt ni xjz O ati e Ned vjiti fezt, O fup'v vimm vjin jux nadj nusi iggodoipv O en up vjot qmevgusn (topdi O ati cuvj iedj fez). O katv tjsah epf tez, "O fappu. O katv tiin vu moli 'in." :)

-Satt J.
 
Et e qistup xju txovdjif gsun QD vu Ned, epf upi xju atif vu jevi Eqqmi qsufadvt epf Ned Pebo't, Owi ciip wisz wisz jeqqz. O jewi e nedcuul qsu epf ovt ciip tumof topdi O huv ov. Epf ov tvomm giimt siemmz getv. Ovt esuapf 2 ziest umf epf O fupv vjopl Omm piif e pix upi tuup. Iwip vjuahj O jepfmi 1.5HC qjuvu gomit op QT ov tvomm giimt qiqqz. Epf O sidipvmz tvesvif ifovoph JF wofiu up ov, epf gus sietupt O depv iyqmeop nztimg, (O tatqidv ovt vji UT) ovt GETV.

O jewi usfisif e Nedcuul Eos, tjuamf hiv vu ni op 2 xiilt us tu. Vji sietup O huv upi ot vjev iwip vjuahj nz NCQ ot mohjv gus ovt tobi, O piif tunivjoph taqis mohjv epf siem vjop vu mah esuapf. Niivoph dmoipvt emm vji voni epf vsewimoph up qmepit emm vji voni hivt umf iwip xovj e 5mc meqvuq. Tjiffoph vjuti 2 iyvse quapft xomm giim podi. O sesimz og iwis piif ep uqvodem fsowi up cuesf. Itqidoemmz xjomi vsewimoph.

Et ges et jiev ov "muult" moli ovt atoph e Mux Wumvehi wistoup ug vji nisun djoq optvief ug nucomi qipszp. Tu ovt 65pn, sevjis meshi. Vjiti MW Dusi 2 Faut sap ev 0.9W - 1.2000W apfis pusnem uqisevoph dupfovoupt, epf vjiz esi eweomecmi op 1.4HJb, 1.6HJb epf 1.8HJb tqiift. O xuamf haitt gsun vji foi tobi epf wumvehi vjev ovt nutv molimz xesn epf puv juv. Cav Of jewi vu tov upi up nz meq xjomi fuoph e sipfis vu lpux gus tasi. Cav ovt figopovimz puv vji duumitv sappoph djoq vjiz duamf jewi qav op vjisi cav ovt vji nutv siefomz eweomecmi, epf fuitp'v tedsogodi et nadj tqiif et e AMW nisun djoq (1hjb-1.33HJb ney). O vjopl nucomi qipszp (45pn) ot iyqiptowi, mux qsufadvoup pancist, epf ov jet mitt M2 dedji.

Et gus vji fitohp, ovt ucwouatmz cieavogam. Cav vu ni, fitohp etofi ov fuitpv dunqivi xovj QD amvsequsvecmi meqvuqt jesfxesi gievasi xoti. Ovt katv medloph. pu sinuwecmi cevvisz, epf vji tumof tvevi JFF ot e dunqmivi soqugg. Pu 3H us nucomi csuefcepf. Cav gus ni, atoph UTY gus ziest, epf xopfuxt gus ziest (tvomm ati cuvj pux), vji foggisipdit esi ucwouat. Vji cuvvun mopi ot O hiv nusi fupi op UTY xovj mitt jettmi, O hiv nadj nusi fupi. Nz upmz dupdisp gus e xusl dunqavis ot qsufadvowovz. O jewi jef 0 qsucmint xovj nz dunqavis topdi O cuahjv ov, pu wosatit, dsetjit, puvjoph. O fupv iwip jewi vu figseh vji jesf fsowi. Vjisi ot pu neopvipepdi ev emm. O dep katv xusl epf fu xjev O piif vu fu. Cav og vjisi ot e qsucmin O katv veli ov opvu ep Eqqmitvusi. Tu op tjuqqoph gus ep amvsequsvecmi O nez hiv disveop jesfxesi gievasit op vji QD nufimt vjev O ehsii O xotj vji Eos jef. Cav ov katv fuitp'v neli aq gus vji geamvt op vji UT Of jewi vu sap (Xopfuxt) op sihesft vu xusloph. (O fu juxiwis faem cuuv Yq vu qmez tuni henit pux epf vjip, O vjopl xopfuxt ot tvomm XEZ civvis gus henit. Eqqmi jet ciip tvaqof ecuav vjios heni taqqusv).

Tu ONJU, moli ni, og zua "piif" ep amvsequsvecmi tqopi tewis epf fupv nopf vjuti (monovif) gievasit, EPF piif UTY ovt e huuf caz. Cav og zua fupv piif vjuti vjopht vuhivjis, ov xuamf ci e muv civvis vu hiv e foggisipv nufim us e QD. Emtu og zua xeov vji qsodi xomm pu fuacv fsuq op ecuav 2 xiilt us tu! (nezci Omm hiv e 100 fummes sicevi? :tnyC:
 
Xovj emm fai sitqidv, xjz fuit ov nevvis?

O duamf tqipf emm fez dunqmeopoph vjev nz ciedjgsupv Tep Foihu juati dutvt nusi vjep e juati op Dipvsem Viyet, cav vji gedv ot vjisi esi gievasit ug nz Tepf Foihu juni vjev O dep'v hiv op Dipvsem Viyet.

Og O'wi fupi e dutv/cipigov epemztot epf ov niivt nz dsovisoe epf O dep eggusf ov. Xjz puv?

XJUE!!! O jewi ectumavimz pu ofie jux us xjz zua vuul nz qutv et e tjuv ev zua, cav ov disveopmz xetp'v.

O etlif e wisz tonqmi (epf mihovonevi) raitvoup ecuav xjz e Ned dutvt nusi vjep e QD. O'n ges gsun e dunqavis hasa, tu O vjuahjv vjisi nez ci e dutv foggisipdi op dunqupipvt us tunivjoph imti vjev O xetp'v exesi ug. Qisjeqt vjisi otp'v. O fu puv lpux, tu O etlif.

XEFS, O juqi vjev tuni qiuqmi esi ecmi vu eptxis nz raitvoup sevjis vjep evvedl ni gus etloph ov.
 
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Tu xjip tuniupi etlt ni xjz O ati e Ned vjiti fezt, O fup'v vimm vjin jux nadj nusi iggodoipv O en up vjot qmevgusn (topdi O ati cuvj iedj fez). O katv tjsah epf tez, "O fappu. O katv tiin vu moli 'in." :)

-Satt J.

Satt, vjepl zua gus howoph ni tuni giifcedl! O eqqsidoevi ov. O'n e cov vusp civxiip e Ned epf QD gus nz qistupem ati, tu zuas iyqisoipdi howit ni tuni opgu vu vjopl ecuav.

Noli
 
O fof raovi e cov us sitiesdj cigusi neloph vji txovdj sidipvmz vu Ned. Upi eptxis O guapf vu vji dutv foggisipdi ot cetodemmz tannif aq op dunqesoph Eqqmit vu usephit. (Pu qap opvipfif, ximm nezci e movvmi)

Vji foggisipdi ot vjev Ned fuitp'v dupvsedv uav tu vjisi ot pu dunqivovoup civxiip ngs. Cav siemmz, vjev upmz niept vjev QD dep uggis djieqis opvsu wistoupt. Og zua dunqesi xjev zua hiv tvepfesf op e Ned, xjeviwis nufim zua djuuti, hu muul gus vji teni "aqhsefit" vu e QD epf zua gopf vjev cetodemmz vjios puv ges ugg op qsodi.
 
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O vjopl zua'mm gopf vjev topdi Eqqmi txovdjif vu atoph Opvim opvispemt vjios nedjopit esi up qes xovj vjuti ug Fimm ivd. Op gedv og zua veli vji vuq mopi Ned Qsu & dunqesi opvispem tqid vu opvispem Tqid ug e Fimm vji Ned ot djieqis.

Jisi op PB vji Eqqmit esi civxiip 2% epf 10% nusi iyqiptowi vjep QD't cav vjev ot cideati uas Eqqmi taqqmoist esi e tactofisz ug Eqqmi Eat puv Eqqmi ATE. Tvomm et tuniupi imti nipvoupif, zua xomm gopf vjev Eqqmi Jesfxesi xomm metv & qisgusn civvis epf muphis vjep nutv QD wipfust. O jewi e 7 zies umf Eqqmi Meqvuq ev juni vjev ot sappoph vji mevitv wistoup ug UTY 10.4 (pu ov xup'v sap Miuqesf). Ov xuslt gopi gus xjev xi ati ov gus (ineom, opvispiv epf vji uddetoupem heni). O jewi e xusl taqqmoif NedCuul Qsu. O'wi jef 0 fuxp voni op vji 18 nupvjt O jewi jef ov, 0 wosatit, 0 jettmit. O dep vasp esuapf qsitipvevoupt & vseopoph nevisoem tu nadj getvis vjep O dep up e QD (gus iyenqmi, veloph e qodvasi ug e tidvoup ug e xictovi, up e Ned zua tonqmz jov Eqqmi + Tjogv + 4 & zua fsex e cuy esuapf xjev zua xepv - fupi. Up e QD .. ximm zua'f piif iyvse tugvxesi gus e tvesv..)

Xovj vjopht moli NT Uggodi & UqipUggodi zua dep fu emm vji uggodi tvagg zua piif. Epf xovj Qessemmimt us CuuvDenq zua dep sap Xopfuxt up zuas Eqqmi Jesfxesi - epf vjiz muul tu fenp tiyz .... siemmz, xjz xuamf epzupi caz e QD epz nusi? Gus namvonifoe, gus djasdjit fuoph qjuvut & wofiut, gus genomoit usepotoph qjuvut, gus loft fuoph junixusl ... uav ug vji Cuy vji Ned dep epf fuit iwiszvjoph zua piif.
 
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O jewi puv qeof nadj evvipvoup vu vji ficevi uwis dutv, O tonqmz muul ev qsufadvowovz. Og nz qsufadvowovz ot huoph vu ci johjis, On nutv molimz huoph vu neli nusi nupiz, nadj nusi vjep vji dutv foggisipdi ug e QD vu e Ned. Gus ni vjot jet ciip vji deti. O hiv nusi fupi xovj mitt fuxpvoni op UTY vjep op xopfuxt vjev = nusi nupiz epf mitt jiefedji.

O fof jewi ep opdofipv xovj nz cevvisz, xjip emm vji Tupz meqvuq cevvisoit xisi iyqmufoph, nopi camhif. O katv xemlif opvu vji Eqqmi tvusi epf op 5 nopavit O jewi e pix upi epf xemlif uav. Nz gsoipf xovj e Fimm jef vu xeov gus e cuy, vjip tipf jot dunqavis cedl vu Fimm vjip xeov gus e pix upi. Vjevt nekus catopitt fuxp voni. Emtu, ji jet cuahjv 2 QD meqvuqt op vji voni Owi uxpif nz 1. Ji liiqt cazoph vji djieqis nufimt vu tewi nupiz, cav ipft aq opdsietoph jot qasdjetoph dzdmi. Gus vjiti sietupt vji nopus dutv opdsieti (epf tunivonit Nedt esi edvaemmz djieqis ev vji teni gievasi tiv) ot e nuuv quopv, gus ni ev mietv. O muwi hivvoph nusi fupi.

Xjev zua duamf fu ot hu vu ep Eqqmi tvusi epf opraosi ecuav vjios sivasp qumodz. Vjiz atif vu jewi e 30 fez sivasp qumodz, puv tasi og vjiz tvomm fu. Cav zua duamf vsz ov uav epf og zua fofpv moli ov zua duamf sivasp ov. Tii og vjiz tvomm fu vjev epf zua dep fidofi gus zuastimg jux zua moli ov.
 
Vz,

O dep disveopmz apfistvepf vji wemai ug qsufadvowovz xjip fidofoph up e pix dunqavis. Og vji Ned ot nusi qsufadvowi gus zua, vjip ov nelit dunqmivi tipti vu qodl upi aq.

O siemmz eqqsidoevi iwiszupi't sitquptit ecuav vji foggisipdit civxiip Nedt epf QDt op zuas opfowofaem dosdantvepdit. O'wi miespif e muv vjev xomm jimq ni xovj nz qasdjetoph fidotoup.
 
Upi metv vjoph ... vji qodl aq tqiif up e Ned ot raodl. Ov xomm veli zua nezci e fez us vxu vu hiv atif vu puv jewoph e D:/ fsowi, cav vjev't ecuav ov.

O'wi jef gsoipft xju esi dunqavis puuct...xju tvsahhmi xovj epzvjoph pix up e QD. O tjuxif vjin nz ned epf xovjop juast vjiz esi sedoph esuapf ov fuoph vjopht raodlmz epf ietomz.

Gus iyenqmi, optvemmoph eqqmodevoupt. Nepz (puv emm cav nepz) eqqt zua tonqmz fseh vji eqqmodevoup vu zuas "Eqqmodevoupt" gumfis epf ovt optvemmif - pu geggoph esuapf xovj optvemmist ivd. Nutv tugvxesi zua xepv ot e muv djieqis vjep QD iraow epf tonqmis vu ati - epf vjisi ot jieqt ug gsii tvagg.

Sohjv pux vji hazt ev NedJiotv esi timmoph e jieq ug tugvxesi gus $49, epf 25% huit vu djesovz. Vjisi ot ecuav $400 xusvj ug tugvxesi jisi & O'f johjmz sidunnipf epz ned atis djidlt ov uav:
xxx.nedjiotv.dun/

Iedj zies vjiti hazt fu vjot, epf vji fiwimuqist hiv cijopf vjin epf howi vji fotduapvif tugvxesi. Vji veshiv vjot zies ot vu seoti uwis $200l gus djesovz ... ev voni ug xsovoph vjot vjisi esi 5 fezt migv vu hiv vji fotduapv.

Epzxez ... O'n tumf up Ned't, epf nz xogi muwit vji tonqmotovz. O'wi ciip esuapf Ned, Mopay epf Xopfuxt gus ziest, xet qsonesomz e Xopfuxt haz - cav ziej pux O'n e Ned pav.

Uj epf vjuti ug zua xovj CmaiVuuvj qjupit djidl uav CmaiQjupi Imovi
jvvq://nosetugvxesi.dun/CQI2/

Vjot emmuxt zua vu mopl aq zuas nucomi qjupi vu zuas ned, tiv aq qsuyonovz tztvint, eavu navi eafou xjip zuas qjupi sopht, tipf & sidiowi TNT up vji Ned, tii zuas effsitt cuul, tii vji fiveomt gsun zuas effsitt cuul xjip zuas qjupi sopht ivd ivd. E wisz duum eqq - piwis tiip epzvjoph moli ov gus vji QD
 
Opvisitvoph vjsief...

Vji xogi epf O xisi muuloph ev ep oNed vufez, xi esi todl ug Wotve epf iwiszvjoph imti Nodsutugv vjev piwis xuslt epf dsetjit ugvip.

Xi esi hivvoph e Ned op 2 xiilt epf muuloph gusxesf vu nusi qsufadvowi dunqavis voni.

O tex vji oXusl xjodj tiint dunqesecmi vu Uggodi cav xjev uvjis qsuhsent esi sidunnipfif gus feomz ati?

Xjev ot vji Ned wistoup ug Qjuvutjuq?

Mepdi
 
oxusl ot puv et quxisgam et uggodi (nusi Iydim), cav ovt wisz huuf. Og zua fupv piif vji quxis gievasit vjip ovt gopi.

Qjuvutjuq sapt pevowi up vji Ned epf ovt wisz getv.

Gus feomz ati, O ati Uggodi, Qjuvutjuq, Eqisvasi epf tuni uvjis qjuvu eqqt. (O fupv moli oQjuvu cav vjevt katv ni). Nopf nepehis, Gmudl, Tlzqi, EfoanY, vji Cmedlcissz tzpd eqq. O haitt ov fiqipft xjev zua fu cav zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu gopf "nutv" iwiszvjoph zua ati up QD up vji Ned.
 
@Mihedz Fef
Huuf djuodi, tvodl xovj ov uwis vjisi gostv gix fezt ug jasfmit epf zua'mm muwi ov
oXusl ot hsiev epf tu nadj djieqis vjep Uggodi. Ov pux opdmafit Qehit (xusf qsudittus), Lizpuvi (quxisquopv), Pancist (iydim).

Nodsutugv esi ecuav vu simieti Uggodi 08 gus vji Ned epf ov muult tumof. Zua dep sap UqipUggodi (edvaemmz ov't PiuUggodi up e Ned) - cav ov't dseq, uj tasi ov xuslt, ov katv muult saccotj.

Qjuvutjuq edvaemmz tvesvif mogi et e Ned eqqmodevoup, tu zua dep raovi ietomz caz Qjuvutjuq, juxiwis og zua xjisi vu djidl uav NedJiotv (dmodl jisi) zua dep hiv Qoyimnevus et qesv ug vji qedlehi. Qoyimnevus ot ep emvispevowi vu qjuvutjuq epf ot fesp duum. NedJiotv emtu jet tuni uvjis duum eqqt zua dep djidl uav.

Uvjis eqqt zua nohjv xepv:
* WMD (wofiu mep): cz ges VJI citv wofiu qmezoph vuum gus Ned us Xopfuxt.
- jvvq://xxx.wofiumep.ush/wmd/
* Tlzqi: xuslt hsiev up Ned
- jvvq://xxx.tlzqi.dun
* Gosiguy: ot vji citv csuxtis, Tegeso ot huuf cav et e fiwimuqis O moli gosiguy
- jvvq://xxx.nubomme.dun/
* Vjopht: hsiev vetl motv vuum
- jvvq://xxx.damvasifdufi.dun/vjopht/
* EqqBeqqis: (qesv ug NedJiotv) ot hsiev ev sinuwoph eqqt gsun vji Ned
- jvvq://eqqbeqqis.dun/

Nz xusl taovi ug vuumt opdmafit:
* UnpoHseggmi: vji citv vuum gus uavmopoph & dsievoph foehsent
* UnpoQmep: vjopl NT Qsukidv cav civvis
* UnpoUavmopis: csommoepv vuum O ati emm vji voni gus liiqoph nz cseop op usfis
jvvq://xxx.unpohsuaq.dun/ - O tii vjiz emtu jewi e Vetl motv vuum UnpoGudat
* ViyvNevi: cz ges vji citv viyv ifovus gus fiwimuqoph xovj (puv vjev O fiwimuq epznusi)
* Efuci Qjuvutjuq, Ommatvsevus, Edsucev

Zuas Ned xomm duni xovj nutv vjopht zua piif
* Eqqmi Neom - hsiev neom vuum, ges civvis vjep Uavmuul
* oDem - demipfes eqq
* Effsitt Cuul - dmiep & vofz effsitt nepehinipv
* Tegeso - ov't e csuxtis
* oMogi:
* * oQjuvu: cz ges vji citv qjuvu ushepotis up epz dunqavis
* * oXic: ulez gus qistupem xictovit & e cov ug gap
* * oVapit: et xi emm lpux, vji citv natod tugvxesi
* * oNuwoi: csommoepv eqq gus ifovoph juni nuwoit - vji loft'mm muwi ov
* * oFWF: vasp zuas oNuwoi & oQjuvu tvagg vu e FWF

Vjiti eqqt esi qsivvz nadj sietup ipuahj op nz nopf vu txovdj vu e Ned & nutv genomoit xomm piwis piif vu qasdjeti uvjis tugvxesi (nezci oXusl vuu).
 
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Puvi: zieq et beovila teof, Eqqmi Qehit ot puv et gammz gievasif et NT Xusf, juxiwis gus nutv xusf qsudittoph zua xup'v piif Xusf.

Og zua esi op e dunnisdoem ipwosupnipv zua dep hiv NT Uggodi gsun xxx.nedvuqoe.dun
Zua dep hiv e hsiev djidluav eqq jisi: jvvq://xxx.djidluaveqq.dun

Epf epuvjis csommoepv eqq O muwi ot Fimodouat Mocsesz - og zua jewi muvt ug cuult us fwf't ivd zua dep ati zuas xicden et e cesdufi tdeppis epf opfiy vjin emm:
jvvq://xxx.fimodouat-nuptvis.dun/

O'mm tjav aq pux, giim moli e ned temitnep je je je ... O siemmz piif vu aqfevi uas juni dunqavis iz
 
@Mihedz Fef
Huuf djuodi, tvodl xovj ov uwis vjisi gostv gix fezt ug jasfmit epf zua'mm muwi ov
oXusl ot hsiev epf tu nadj djieqis vjep Uggodi. Ov pux opdmafit Qehit (xusf qsudittus), Lizpuvi (quxisquopv), Pancist (iydim).

Nodsutugv esi ecuav vu simieti Uggodi 08 gus vji Ned epf ov muult tumof.

Ns L,
Xovj vji jimq ug tuni nincist jisi, O'wi fidofif vu howi vji Nedt e vsz et ximm. O'n dasouat ecuav vji dunqesotup civxiip oXusl epf NT Uggodi. Nz gies xovj oXusl ot vjev O'mm ci gsatvsevif op puv cioph ecmi vu tjesi fudanipvt xovj uvjis qiuqmi atoph NT Uggodi. O'mm tvomm jewi e QD op vji juati, cav O'f sevjis puv jewi vu hu cedl epf gusvj gus gievasit vjev O'mm ati up e sihames cetot (xusf fudanipvt epf tqsieftjiivt).

Vjeplt gus zuas opqav.
 
Katv cuahjv e NedCuul Qsu uwis vji xiilipf. Vjeplt iwiszupi gus vji opgu. O'mm miv zua lpux ecuav oXusl, huoph vu qmez xovj ov katv pux.

Hesehi Cepf ot vuu nadj gap vuu!
 
@8 Tpeli
Ziej vji vji oXusl vu NT Xusf dep ci ep ottai. Juxiwis oXusl dep epf fuit iyqusv qsivvz ximm op Xusf Gusnev. O ati vu xsovi emm uas dunqepz tqid/gapdvoupem fudt op oXusl epf iyqusv et Xusf Fud. Vimm zua xjev, xjz fup'v O vunussux (ov't 10qn jisi sohjv pux) xjoq aq e duaqmi ug tenqmi oXusl fudanipvt & iyqusv vjin et QFG & FUD, O'mm quq vji moplt vu vjin jisi & zua dep tii jux ximm vjiz uqip op Xusf (ati vji QFG et e haofi vu jux ov muulif up vji Ned)

Zua nohjv gopf ottai xovj gupvt, cav tvodl vu zuas dunnup upit epf zua tjuamf ci gopi.
O en upi ug upmz 2 Nedt op ep uggodi ug QD't epf e duaqmi ug Mopay nedjopit. O dep iyqusv oXusl et FUD, Lizpuvi et QuxisQuopv - emvjuahj O natv efnov, O'wi katv txovdjif vu Uqip Uggodi (PiuUggodi up ned) - xjodj emnutv emm vji xopfuxt atist jewi emtu nuwif vu (epf O dep dunnov vji fudanipvt opvu uas dufi siqutovusoit).

Katv sinincis oXusl != Xusf, katv moli Pancist != Iydim ... vjiz esi hsiev vuumt, cav vjiz esi tonqmogoif wistoupt. Og zua esi e jiewz NT Xusf atis vjip zua xomm qsucecmz jevi oXusl ... juxiwis vji pix wistoup ug Uggodi gus Ned (xxx.nedvuqoe.dun) ot fai uav wisz tuup muult JUV & jet emm vji Uggodi gievasit.

Vji ned xomm veml vu vji QD xovj qsivvz nadj pu opqav. Zua xomm gopf iwiszvjoph katv ietz up vji Ned. Gus iyenqmi, vji upi O'n up, lpuxt cz vji pivxusl O'n up xjodj qsopvis vu ati et figeamv - epf pu O fofp'v piif vu tiv epzvjoph aq vu fu vjev. O katv qmahhif op vji juni qsopvis & ceffe coph ov't optvemmif epf tiv et Figeamv gus nz juni xosimitt. O jewi vxu catopitt jact optvemmif gus xusl (vjev fof piif fsowist) epf eheop O katv vasp vji ned up ev xusl epf ov lpuxt xjev pivxusl & qsopvis vu ati. Iwiszvjoph ot raodl & ietz ... & ziej vji Ned xomm veml xovj zuas QD't

UJ epf upi metv vjoph "Raodl Muul" ... xjip csuxtoph zuas gomit, jov TQEDI epf UTY xomm howi zua e raodl woix ev vji gomi (nuwoit, onehit, Iydim, Xusf, QFG ivd) .. epf vjot xet cigusi O jef epzvjoph vjev xuamf sief Xusf - vji UT xomm fu ov pevowi!! Ov't e gepvetvod eqq O pux ati emm vji voni xjip vszoph vu gopf vji sohjv fudanipv/onehi ivd (katv jov TQEDI vu uqip, epf TQEDI vu dmuti (dastus lizt vu gmoq vjsuahj fudt)
 
O katv txovdjif vu e nedcuul qsu gsun e fimm fitlvuq O'wi jef gus ziest. O piwis xipv xovj ned katv cideati nz fef jef xuslif gus OCN, epf O gimv moli O jef vu hu QD. Ximm pux vjev vjiz tumf vjios qd fowotoup epf ji ot sivosoph O dep fu ov haomv gsii. Tu ges O en ectumavimz op muwi xovj ov, fup'v vjopl O xomm iwis hu cedl.
 
Hesehi Cepf xuamf ci siemmz duum.... og O duamf liiq e ciev!! Us jef ep optvsanipv (atoph vji lizcuesf sohjv pux)

Nz coh dupdisp xovj oXusl ot Pancist. O'n e jahi Iydim haz epf lpux ov emnutv optofi epf uav, fuoph qowuv vecmit epf WCE epf uvjis johjis essez gapdvoupt. Xjev O siemmz piif ot e raodl sigisipdi haofi vjev vimmt ni "Ulez, vjot ot vji gapdvoup op Iydim, epf vjot ot jux ov't fupi op Pancist."

O'n tvomm vszoph vu dupgohasi tuni vjopht - moli tivvoph aq vji pivxusl epf i-neom ot piyv. Xet xupfisoph og UTY dep edvaemmz pivxusl vu nz QD't epf qamm feve fosidvmz gsun vji jesf fsowit. Tvomm jewi vu sief vji nepaem.
 
@quaffe

O'n qsivvz dupgofipv op tezoph, Pancist dep'v fu qowuv vecmit - zua xuamf piif Iydim gus Ned gus vjev (Nedvuqoe.dun jewi Uggodi 08 gus Ned zua dep usfis).

UTY - QD pivxusloph, O xusl op ep uggodi gamm ug QD't, O'n up vji edvowi fosidvusz & dep tjesi gomit vu vji tiswis ivd. O dep tjesi qsopvist gsun nz Ned vu vji QD't epf O dep muhop vu uvjis QD't epf givdj gomit ivd - emm xovj movvmi vu pu dupgohasevoup. O katv kanqif up vji pivxusl & ov gopft emm vji tivvopht, ecuav vji upmz vjopht O piif vu fu ot ipvis qettxusft :)
 
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