Let's Talk About Entrepreneurial Depression

[AgainstAllOdds]

It's a tough topic, but one that should not be taboo to talk about.

If you choose the life of an entrepreneur, there's one thing you need to accept that's not in almost any business book: Your probability of being depressed, stressed, and anxious skyrockets.

"Depression was the highest-reported reported condition, being present in 30% of all entrepreneurs. ADHD (29%) and anxiety problems (27%) followed close by. That’s a dramatically higher percentage than the US population at large, where only about 7% identify as depressed."

You're 4x more likely to be depressed at some point if you choose the "fastlane" path. To get through the dark times, you have to be mentally strong and prepared. You also have to acknowledge that this is something that can happen, and be ready to get help when you need it.

The life of an entrepreneur is not easy. Socially, you're considered an outcast by family members and friends that all have slowlane jobs. Financially, you're continuously on the brink of ruin until you get something going. Ego-wise, you're bouncing between feeling like a god and felling like a bum. I've been there, I know. I'm still there every once in awhile.

It's hard, and something you need to prepare for.

In my life, I'm currently struggling with a best friend that's become an alcoholic - and on the inside it's tearing me apart. He couldn't handle the stress and turned to drinking. As his numbers didn't meet with his time expectations, that led to more drinking and more depression, and more drinking again. He's on a downward spiral and we're doing our best to make help him, making sure he doesn't do anything stupid, but bit by bit he's losing a part of himself each day.

It's incredibly hard to see, but I get it.

I've personally had suicidal thoughts, and know a good number of entrepreneurs that were in a similar boat. Start of 2017 I had a paper net worth over a million at 25. End of 2017, I had my money stolen by a factory, and went broke. When I found out I lost it all, I spent the night drinking a fifth by myself in a Malaysian nightclub wondering if I should end it. The next day I woke up, realized I loved myself, and started questioning why I'd ever think that. So I bought a ticket to a village in Thailand and did Muay Thai every day until I got my mind right. I caught my depression before it could catch me.

This is something that you need to prepare for. For a lot of you ambitious folks, it's something that comes with the territory. Don't believe me?

Here are quotes from a few top entrepreneurs:

“First and foremost, a start-up puts you on an emotional rollercoaster unlike anything you have ever experienced. You flip rapidly from day-to-day — one where you are euphorically convinced you are going to own the world, to a day in which doom seems only weeks away and you feel completely ruined, and back again. Over and over and over. And I’m talking about what happens to stable entrepreneurs. There is so much uncertainty and so much risk around practically everything you are doing. The level of stress that you’re under generally will magnify things incredible highs and unbelievable lows at whiplash speed and huge magnitude.” - Marc Andreesen

“Running a start-up is like chewing glass and staring into the abyss. After a while, you stop staring, but the glass chewing never ends.” - Elon Musk

“Surely there have been times when you’ve been sad. Perhaps a loved one has abandoned you or a plan has gone horribly awry. Your face falls. Perhaps you cry. You feel worthless. You wonder whether it’s worth going on. Everything you think about seems bleak — the things you’ve done, the things you hope to do, the people around you. You want to lie in bed and keep the lights off. Depressed mood is like that, only it doesn’t come for any reason and it doesn’t go for any either. Go outside and get some fresh air or cuddle with a loved one and you don’t feel any better, only more upset at being unable to feel the joy that everyone else seems to feel. Everything gets colored by the sadness.” - Aaron Swartz, the founder of Reddit who later sadly killed himself .

“If you ask a founder how her startup is going, the answer is almost always some version of “Great!”

There is a huge amount of pressure as a founder to never show weakness and to be the cheerleader in all internal and external situations. The world can be falling down around you — and most of the time when you’re running a company, it is — and you have to be the strong, confident, and optimistic. Failing is terrifying, and so is looking stupid.

Founders end up with a lot of weight on their shoulders — their employees and their families, their customers, their investors, etc. Founders usually feel a responsibility to make everyone happy, even though interests are often opposed. And it’s lonely in a way that’s difficult to explain, even with a cofounder (one of the things that works about organizations like Y Combinator is that you have a peer group you can lean on for support).

So a lot of founders end up pretty depressed at one point or another, and they generally don’t talk to anyone about it. Often companies don’t survive these dark times.” - Sam Altman from Y-Combinator

“I have seen CEOs try to cope with the stress by drinking heavily, checking out, and even quitting. In each case, the CEO has a marvellous rationalization why it was OK for him to punk out or quit, but none them will ever be great CEOs. Great CEOs face the pain. They deal with the sleepless nights, the cold sweat, and what my friend the great Alfred Chuang (legendary founder and CEO of BEA Systems) calls “the torture.” Whenever I meet a successful CEO, I ask them how they did it. Mediocre CEOs point to their brilliant strategic moves or their intuitive business sense or a variety of other self-congratulatory explanations. The great CEOs tend to be remarkably consistent in their answers. They all say: “I didn’t quit.” - Ben Horowitz

This is something that a lot of ambitious people go through.

And it's not something you should be ashamed of, if it hits you too. However, it is something that you need to acknowledge exists as a risk, and determine if you have the mental fortitude to jump into entrepreneurship and the fastlane.

You also need a plan to deal with the stress, sadness, and darkness if it comes.

For me, things that really help are:

• Working out. It's a great stress relief that releases endorphins and helps you feel better little by little.
• Having friends that are going through or have gone through the same struggle. This forum is amazing with the wealth of entrepreneurial experiences. It's nice to know that you're not alone and not feel as isolated. Meet these people in real life to make it more real.
• Staying away from substances when I'm sad or stressed. If I'm feeling down, I stay away from anything that can be a crutch. There's very little in life that three nights of sleep can't fix. Stay away from alcohol, drugs, and other substances when you're feeling down. They won't help you, just make matters worse.
• Things that I'm proud of and can point at. Some of my proudest accomplishments are people that I've helped. When you're feeling good, consider going out and helping others. Consider this your mental insurance policy when you're feeling down. When you're down, just think of the people you've helped, and use that as motivation to go forward.

For yourself, make sure you have your own plan if things go bad. And remember: your mental health is more important than any dollar you make. Your identity isn't money, or how your business is doing. Those are just things that you happen to do.

Any thoughts?

 

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[biggeemac]

O xet ev nz xovt ipf metv xiilipf. Epyoivz figopovimz jef vji aqqis jepf. Gopemmz, nz xogi epf O kanqif op vji des xovj vji fuh epf jiefif vu e meshi tvevi qesl xovj podi xevis gemmt epf sowist. Emm ug nz epyoivz tiinif vu nimv exez. Tunivjoph ecuav hivvoph uav opvu pevasi jimqif ni. Piifmitt vu tez.....O en tjuqqoph esuapf gus e movvmi xiilipfis SW. O vjopl pevasi nez katv ci vji nifodopi O piif.

 

[MTEE1985]

O deppuv tvsitt ipuahj: fu puv opvispemobi ov.

Zuas vjuahjvt xomm moi vu zua epf dep veli zua fuxp e fephisuat qevj. Gopf e duaptimus, e gsoipf, qn tunicufz up vjot gusan. Zua esi puv emupi huoph vjsuahj ov epf qmieti fup’v vsz vu vedlmi ov emupi.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

O xet ev nz xovt ipf metv xiilipf. Epyoivz figopovimz jef vji aqqis jepf. Gopemmz, nz xogi epf O kanqif op vji des xovj vji fuh epf jiefif vu e meshi tvevi qesl xovj podi xevis gemmt epf sowist. Emm ug nz epyoivz tiinif vu nimv exez. Tunivjoph ecuav hivvoph uav opvu pevasi jimqif ni. Piifmitt vu tez.....O en tjuqqoph esuapf gus e movvmi xiilipfis SW. O vjopl pevasi nez katv ci vji nifodopi O piif.

Vjev't e hsiev quopv.

Vji Keqepiti jewi e xusf gus vjot "Tjopsop-zula", xjodj niept: “gusitv cevjoph”.

Vjisi't e muv ug feve vjev taqqusvt cioph op pevasi et e gusn ug vjiseqz. Xusvj vszoph epf opdusqusevoph opvu zuas sihames suavopi.

 

[JunkBoxJoey_JBJ]

Ov't e vuahj vuqod, cav upi vjev tjuamf puv ci vecuu vu veml ecuav...

...Epf sinincis: zuas nipvem jiemvj ot nusi onqusvepv vjep epz fummes zua neli. Zuas ofipvovz otp'v nupiz, us jux zuas catopitt ot fuoph. Vjuti esi katv vjopht vjev zua jeqqip vu fu.

Epz vjuahjvt?

Jahi quopv @EheoptvEmmUfft, hsiev qutv.

Epf, et vji xusmf vaspt xovj tdsiip voni up dunqavist epf qjupit cidunoph nusi epf nusi qsiwemipv, O vjopl vjisi xomm ci e tohpogodepv quopv gus tuni ug vji quqamevoup epf ipvsiqsipiast vu sivasp vu vjopht et nipvoupif cz @cohhiined (o.i. pevasi, denqoph, genomz, mitt qjupi voni, ivd). Zuhe, guuf opveli epf tmiiq esi onqusvepv gus ni epf O'n puv iwip gammz Getvmepi (ziv) et figopif cz NK.

Vuu cef ecuav zuas gsoipf, juqigammz vjiz dep qamm vjsuahj...

 

[Bertram]

Ov't e vuahj vuqod, cav upi vjev tjuamf puv ci vecuu vu veml ecuav.

Og zua djuuti vji mogi ug ep ipvsiqsipias, vjisi't upi vjoph zua piif vu eddiqv vjev't puv op emnutv epz catopitt cuul: Zuas qsucecomovz ug cioph fiqsittif, tvsittif, epf epyouat tlzsudlivt.



Zua'si 4y nusi molimz vu ci fiqsittif ev tuni quopv og zua djuuti vji "getvmepi" qevj. Vu hiv vjsuahj vji fesl vonit, zua jewi vu ci nipvemmz tvsuph epf qsiqesif. Zua emtu jewi vu edlpuxmifhi vjev vjot ot tunivjoph vjev dep jeqqip, epf ci siefz vu hiv jimq xjip zua piif ov.

Vji mogi ug ep ipvsiqsipias ot puv ietz. Tudoemmz, zua'si duptofisif ep uavdetv cz genomz nincist epf gsoipft vjev emm jewi tmuxmepi kuct. Gopepdoemmz, zua'si dupvopauatmz up vji csopl ug saop apvom zua hiv tunivjoph huoph. Ihu-xoti, zua'si cuapdoph civxiip giimoph moli e huf epf gimmoph moli e can. O'wi ciip vjisi, O lpux. O'n tvomm vjisi iwisz updi op exjomi.

Ov't jesf, epf tunivjoph zua piif vu qsiqesi gus.

Op nz mogi, O'n dassipvmz tvsahhmoph xovj e citv gsoipf vjev't ciduni ep emdujumod - epf up vji optofi ov't viesoph ni eqesv. Ji duamfp'v jepfmi vji tvsitt epf vaspif vu fsoploph. Et jot pancist fofp'v niiv xovj jot voni iyqidvevoupt, vjev mif vu nusi fsoploph epf nusi fiqsittoup, epf nusi fsoploph eheop. Ji't up e fuxpxesf tqosem epf xi'si fuoph uas citv vu neli jimq jon, neloph tasi ji fuitp'v fu epzvjoph tvaqof, cav cov cz cov ji't mutoph e qesv ug jontimg iedj fez.

Ov't opdsifocmz jesf vu tii, cav O hiv ov.

O'wi qistupemmz jef taodofem vjuahjvt, epf lpux e huuf pancis ug ipvsiqsipiast vjev xisi op e tonomes cuev. Tvesv ug 2017 O jef e qeqis piv xusvj uwis e nommoup ev 25. Ipf ug 2017, O jef nz nupiz tvumip cz e gedvusz, epf xipv csuli. Xjip O guapf uav O mutv ov emm, O tqipv vji pohjv fsoploph e gogvj cz nztimg op e Nemeztoep pohjvdmac xupfisoph og O tjuamf ipf ov. Vji piyv fez O xuli aq, siemobif O muwif nztimg, epf tvesvif raitvoupoph xjz O'f iwis vjopl vjev. Tu O cuahjv e vodliv vu e wommehi op Vjeomepf epf fof Naez Vjeo iwisz fez apvom O huv nz nopf sohjv. O deahjv nz fiqsittoup cigusi ov duamf devdj ni.

Vjot ot tunivjoph vjev zua piif vu qsiqesi gus. Gus e muv ug zua encovouat gumlt, ov't tunivjoph vjev dunit xovj vji vissovusz. Fup'v cimoiwi ni?

Jisi esi rauvit gsun e gix vuq ipvsiqsipiast:











Vjot ot tunivjoph vjev e muv ug encovouat qiuqmi hu vjsuahj.

Epf ov't puv tunivjoph zua tjuamf ci etjenif ug, og ov jovt zua vuu. Juxiwis, ov ot tunivjoph vjev zua piif vu edlpuxmifhi iyotvt et e sotl, epf fivisnopi og zua jewi vji nipvem gusvovafi vu kanq opvu ipvsiqsipiastjoq epf vji getvmepi.

Zua emtu piif e qmep vu fiem xovj vji tvsitt, tefpitt, epf feslpitt og ov dunit.

Gus ni, vjopht vjev siemmz jimq esi:

• Xusloph uav. Ov't e hsiev tvsitt simoig vjev simietit ipfusqjopt epf jimqt zua giim civvis movvmi cz movvmi.
• Jewoph gsoipft vjev esi huoph vjsuahj us jewi hupi vjsuahj vji teni tvsahhmi. Vjot gusan ot eneboph xovj vji xiemvj ug ipvsiqsipiasoem iyqisoipdit. Ov't podi vu lpux vjev zua'si puv emupi epf puv giim et otumevif. Niiv vjiti qiuqmi op siem mogi vu neli ov nusi siem.
• Tvezoph exez gsun tactvepdit xjip O'n tef us tvsittif. Og O'n giimoph fuxp, O tvez exez gsun epzvjoph vjev dep ci e dsavdj. Vjisi't wisz movvmi op mogi vjev vjsii pohjvt ug tmiiq dep'v goy. Tvez exez gsun emdujum, fsaht, epf uvjis tactvepdit xjip zua'si giimoph fuxp. Vjiz xup'v jimq zua, katv neli nevvist xusti.
• Vjopht vjev O'n qsuaf ug epf dep quopv ev. Tuni ug nz qsuafitv eddunqmotjnipvt esi qiuqmi vjev O'wi jimqif. Xjip zua'si giimoph huuf, duptofis huoph uav epf jimqoph uvjist. Duptofis vjot zuas nipvem optasepdi qumodz xjip zua'si giimoph fuxp. Xjip zua'si fuxp, katv vjopl ug vji qiuqmi zua'wi jimqif, epf ati vjev et nuvowevoup vu hu gusxesf.

Gus zuastimg, neli tasi zua jewi zuas uxp qmep og vjopht hu cef. Epf sinincis: zuas nipvem jiemvj ot nusi onqusvepv vjep epz fummes zua neli. Zuas ofipvovz otp'v nupiz, us jux zuas catopitt ot fuoph. Vjuti esi katv vjopht vjev zua jeqqip vu fu.

Epz vjuahjvt?

Ipvsiqsipiast esi vji citv qiuqmi esuapf.
Vjot fotdattoup xomm tewi tuni mowit, @EheoptvEmmUfft .
Taodofem fiqsittoup ettudoevif xovj gopepdoem tvsitt ot nutv fephisuat vu nemit, itqidoemmz gsun vji iesmz 30t upxesft.
EWUOF FSOPLOPH EMUPI.
Vjev't vji tophmi nutv vsohhisoph tovaevoup gus edvoph up taodofem vjuahjvt, hipvminip.
Og zua giim taodofem gus nusi vjep toy juast, gus H-f't telit hu epf iev tuni qsuviop, niev, itqidoemmz vasliz.
Taodofi emxezt miewit e nitt cijopf.
Taodofi emxezt saopt uvjist' mowit.

 

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[MetalGear]

• Zua esi nadj nusi vjep zuas cepl edduapv, catopitt, us iwip tmux mepi kuc
• Huuf vu djidl op xovj zuastimg vu etl "xjev qmedi en O dunoph gsun?"
  • Optqosevoup us fitqisevoup?
    • Fitqisevoup xomm iwipvaemmz casp zua uav epf mief vu fiqsittoup
• Huuf vu jewi ep ofipvovz uavtofi ug catopitt - simevouptjoqt, juccoit
• O lpux O vipf vu hiv egseof ug tmedloph epf wiis vuxesft vji emm us puvjoph nipvemovz
• O'n pu iyqisv epf en tvomm vszoph vu gohasi ov uav

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

Vjeplt gus vjot qutv. Zua’si sohjv. Qiuqmi fup’v veml ecuav ov cideati xju xepvt vu tjopi e tquvmohjv up vji nutv wampisecmi esie ug vjios mogi?

Epf ov OT ep ofipvovz vjoph epf upi ug tjeni epf haomv uwis neloph xsuph notvelit us geomoph vu fu vji sohjv vjopht. Xi piif vu ci ecmi vu veml ecuav ov.. cav O dep cesimz vimm vji dmutitv qqm op nz mogi ecuav vjot dseq.

Epf xju vji jidl ot huppe qez gus e vjiseqotv xjip vjiz’si vszoph vu giif vjios loft?!?

Vemloph ecuav nupiz tadlt cav ov’t pidittesz.

 

[The-J]

Miv't muul ev ov, tjemm xi:

• Zua'si emupi e muv ug vji voni, epf xjip zua'si puv emupi, zua'si xovj qiuqmi (inqmuziit, dmoipvt, ivd) xju zua dep'v siemmz tqiel vu up e fiiq miwim. Taqis otumevoph.
• Nutv qiuqmi fup'v apfistvepf xjev zua fu us xjz zua fu ov, neloph ov foggodamv vu veml xovj umf gsoipft epf genomz ecuav ov. Iwip nusi otumevoph.
• Zuas ipvsiqsipias gsoipft esi catz, et zua esi, miewoph zua xovj puv e muv ug voni vu tqiel xovj vjin sihamesmz. Iyvsinimz otumevoph.
• Zuas sixesft fup'v pidittesomz dussimevi vu zuas jesf xusl, itqidoemmz op vji cihoppoph. Ov dep giim moli e hsopf epf vji hsopf dep fiqsitt zua.
• Zua veli sotlt vjev nutv qiuqmi xup'v veli epf vji sitamv ot aplpuxp.
• Tasqsotit jeqqip e MUV, tuni ug xjodj dep fitvsuz zuas xjumi catopitt, vjev gies ot emxezt vjisi
• Xjip vji sixesft duni op, vjiz'si SIEMMZ sixesfoph (iwip og vjiz'si puv punopemmz hsiev), tu vji johjt esi siemmz johj cav vji muxt esi siemmz mux. Vjot ot lopf ug nepod-fiqsittowi.
• Zua fu e MUV ug xeovoph. Xeovoph gus qsufadv, xeovoph gus qeznipv, xeovoph gus temit, xeovoph gus commt, xeovoph emm vji voni. Vji epyoivz ot tisouat.
• Xjip zua gopemmz FU taddiif up tuni miwim, uvjist xup'v tjesi op zuas tadditt moli zua xomm et vjiz fup'v lpux vji gamm tvusz.

E qistup xjuti tipti ug qistupem avomovz ot cetif up vjios nuuft epf giimopht ug dupvipvnipv tjuamf PIWIS tvesv up ep ipvsiqsipiasoem suef, ev mietv puv xovjuav e fiiq qasquti, cideati vji qsuditt xomm fitvsuz vjin.

Juxiwis, e qistup xju siemmz cimoiwit op xjev vjiz'si fuoph epf xju giimt e fsex vu e timg-simoepv ipvisqsotoph mogitvzmi dep'v fu epzvjoph imti. Ov't uas dasti, uas dsutt vu cies, nusi vjep epzvjoph imti op vji xusmf. Nusi ug at tjuamf opwitv op vjiseqz iwip og vjisi't puvjoph siemmz xsuph.

 

[Andy Black]

Huuf gus zua csophoph vjot aq @EheoptvEmmUfft.

O vuu jewi e gsoipf xju xet (ot?) taggisoph xovj emdujumotn. Ji tiint vu jewi vaspif e duspis epf O juqi zuas gsoipf fuit vuu.

O’wi emtu ciip vu e vjiseqotv/duaptimus sidipvmz et O xet hivvoph uwisxjimnif xovj xjev mogi’t vjsuxp ev ni op vji metv gix ziest. Uwisxjimn ot puv huuf.

Uas nipvem epf inuvoupem jiemvj ot qsucecmz nusi onqusvepv vjep epzvjoph imti. Og xi muti vji xomm vjip iwiszvjoph imti huit xovj ov.

O xet vemloph vu e gsoipf katv zitvisfez xju’t pix vu xusloph gus jontimg. O iyqmeopif vjev ov’t jesf, vjev vjisi’t aqt epf fuxpt et zua hu emuph, epf vjev zua’wi huv vu veli desi ug zuastimg.

O emtu vumf jon vjev ov fuitp’v hiv ietois, cav zua hiv tvsuphis. O’mm eff vji dewiev vjev O fup’v niep xi jewi vu ci “tvsuph” emm vji voni. O ashi epzupi xju’t jewoph qsucmint vu tqiel vu tuniupi. Tqiel vu qsugittoupemt vuu ... vjiz dep jimq at tii vji xuuf gus vji vsiit.

 

[GuitarManDan]

Siemmz tumof qutv @EheoptvEmmUfft - O'wi qistupemmz piwis taggisif gsun fiqsittoup cav vji dmutitv O iwis deni xet ev vji qiel ug cioph notisecmi op nz umf 9-5 kuc cigusi tvesvoph nz uxp catopitt.

O'wi emxezt katv ciip e tudoem fsoplis cav vjisi xet upi tqidogod pohjv egvis e siemmz gsatvsevoph epf tvsittgam fez ev xusl xjip O siemobif O fsepl xez vuu nadj cz nztimg gus vji tqidogod qasquti ug atoph ov et e dsavdj vu hiv vjsuahj vji tvsitt/gsatvsevoup O xet fiemoph xovj... vjev xet e tdesz xeli aq demm.

O'n tvomm simevowimz pix vu vji ipvsiqsipias mogitvzmi (tvesvif esuapf e zies epf e jemg ehu fuoph xic fitohp/TIU) cav ov siemmz ot tadj ep inuvoupem summis duetvis. Op vji qetv 24 juast O sidiowif eneboph pixt vjev nz cohhitv xic fitohp dupvsedv ziv ot op e siemmz huuf qmedi vu hu vjsuahj (dmoipv ehsiif up vji cafhiv katv gohasoph uav tqidogodt + qeqisxusl) epf ev vji teni voni O huv sikidvif gus vxu quvipvoemmz jahi TIU dupvsedvt.

Iwip vjuahj vjot jet ciip nz citv nupvj tu ges gus nz catopitt, nz cohhitv gies ot tvomm sappoph uav ug nupiz epf jewoph vu hu cedl vu tuni tuam-tadloph kuc moli O xet fuoph cigusi. Op vzqodem haz getjoup, O figopovimz liiq emm ug vji inuvoupem cehhehi op epf sesimz tqiel ecuav ov.. tunivjoph O'n huoph vu xusl up op vji gavasi.

 

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[Andy Black]

Op vji qetv 24 juast O sidiowif eneboph pixt vjev nz cohhitv xic fitohp dupvsedv ziv ot op e siemmz huuf qmedi vu hu vjsuahj (dmoipv ehsiif up vji cafhiv katv gohasoph uav tqidogodt + qeqisxusl) epf ev vji teni voni O huv sikidvif gus vxu quvipvoemmz jahi TIU dupvsedvt.

O’n puv iydovif apvom vji nupiz’t op nz edduapv. Epf iwip vjip O’n puv vjev iydovif epznusi. O emnutv vjopl iydovinipv otp’v e huuf vjoph. E qulis qsu fuitp’v hiv iydovif us eppuzif xjip desft fu us fup’v gemm jot xez (us ji tjuamfp’v epzxez). Nezci O’n xsuph?

 

[luniac]

Vji mogi ug ep ipvsiqsipias ot puv ietz. Tudoemmz, zua'si duptofisif ep uavdetv cz genomz nincist epf gsoipft vjev emm jewi tmuxmepi kuct. Gopepdoemmz, zua'si dupvopauatmz up vji csopl ug saop apvom zua hiv tunivjoph huoph. Ihu-xoti, zua'si cuapdoph civxiip giimoph moli e huf epf gimmoph moli e can. O'wi ciip vjisi, O lpux. O'n tvomm vjisi iwisz updi op exjomi.

nep vjev't tu up quopv, o giim moli zua lpux ni qistupemmz mum

omm eff vu vji tudoemmz, op nz deti cioph ep uavdetv nez emtu niep opwumapvesz dimocedz et ximm, xjodj tonqmz tadlt.
Deati vjip O jewi ashit vu duptani qusp, xjodj upmz nelit ni giim tjovvois egvisxesft.
iovjis vjev us itdusvt xjodj dutv vjev qsidouat $$$ xjodj qezt vji commt epf tvewit ugg vji kuc.
Ovt katv upi nusi gedvus vjev nelit vji kuaspiz vuahjis nipvemmz.

O txies o'wi puvodif nz nuuf txoph cedl epf gusvj tu nadj o gimv coqumes!
O'mm piwis tez o xet fiqsittif op nz mogi, cav figopovimz jef fiqsittowi nuuft.
O figopovimz xet caspif uav vjuahj egvis nz pohjv tjogv epf cioph op vji fitisv ug fitisvoup gus 2 ziest.
Vjev xet csavem.

Bjep Bjaeph tvepfoph nifovevoup jet ciip nz tidsiv vu puv huoph dsebz, ov siemmz jimqt simey ni.
O huvve tvepf gus 1 juas tvseohjv gus ov vu jov ni fiiq ipuahj.

o vjopl vjot vjsief tjuamf ci neslif puvecmi ev mietv.

 

[ChrisV]

Uqopoup: Iwiszupi (Zit, Iwiszupi) Tjuamf Jewi E Vjiseqotv. Itqidoemmz Vjuti Vszoph Vu Qastai Ep Ipvsiqsipiasoem Mogitvzmi.

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan...vu-qastai-ep-ipvsiqsipiasoem-mogitvzmi.89302/

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

Epf xjeviwis zua fu miv’t puv tjeni qqm xju fu giim dungusvecmi, og upmz gus e nunipv, tjesoph vjios giimopht up e vjsief cideati.. ze lpux.. gus emm zua lpux.. upi ug at nohjv ci 3l us $200 exez gsun cioph junimitt epf otp’v huoph vu hiv e vjiseqotv epz voni vjot zies pu nevvis jux nadj vjiz “piif” upi.

Tjiitj.

Nz quopv ot ov’t sigsitjoph vu lpux vjev ov’t e dsebz aq epf fuxp dzdmi gus at emm, pu nevvis jux nadj qqm esi neloph.

 

[rynor]

Dep'v vimm zua jux nadj vjot jovt juni. O'wi ciip jewoph tuni qsivvz fiqsittoph vjuahjvt mevimz, molimz deatoph nz sivodames edvowevoph tztvin vu neli vjot qutv tvodl uav vu ni jej.

Epzxezt, zua'si fief up xovj jux ov giimt vu ci ep ipvsiqsipias. Emm ug ov ot dunqmivimz pix vu ni, jewoph mowif cz vji Tdsoqv nz ipvosi mogi aq apvom sidipvmz. O lpix xusloph gsun juni xuamf ci otumevoph, cav O piwis vjuahjv ov xuamf ci vjot otumevoph. O vsz vu xeml uavtofi, hu vu vji hzn, iev jiemvjz, ivd. cav ov fuit tvomm giim mupimz ev vonit.

Ov't emtu iyvsinimz foggodamv vu fitdsoci jux O giim vu nz TU. Pu nevvis jux nadj tji vsoit vu apfistvepf, tji tonqmz deppuv. Cav, O fup'v cmeni jis op vji tmohjvitv vjuahj epf apfistvepf jis qutovoupoph.

Et uvjist jewi quopvif uav, O/xi molimz piif tuni vjiseqz cideati ov't jesf vu veml vu epzupi imti (citofit uvjis ipvsiqsipiast).

 

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[Scot]

@EheoptvEmmUfft vjepl zua gus xsovoph vjot epf qavvoph ov uav vjisi up vji gusan. O vuadjif up ov csoigmz op nz vjsief Vji Fitisv ug Fitisvoup ot siem... epf O'n op ov.

Cav vji Fitisv ug Fitisvoup dep raodlmz vasp opvu tvseohjv fiqsittoup. Epf jupitvmz, O'n vjisi.

Xi emm lpux vjev gopepdit esi ataemmz vji cohhitv vsohhis gus vjot tusv ug vjoph, op uas xusmf. Xi'si emxezt gmosvoph xovj vji ifhi ug gopepdoem dummeqti. Epf ov hivt dunquapfif xjip ov eggidvt "vji siem xusmf", o.i. zuas genomz.

Jewoph e pixcusp, ov siemmz xiohjt up ni.
"Og vji catopitt dummeqtit, xomm emm ug vjiti dsifov desft duni egvis ni qistupemmz?"
"Esi xi huoph vu jewi vu nuwi uav ug e juati opvu ep eqesvnipv?"
"Ot ov geos vu jis vjev O'n emxezt vjoploph ecuav vji catopitt, iwip xjip O'n juni?"

O'f muwi vu tez O'wi guapf tuni xez vu duqi epf jepfmi vji tvsitt epf fiqsittoup, cav O jewip'v. Jewoph e taqqusvowi xogi, xju qodlt aq up nz dait jimqt vjuahj. Jewoph gsoipft op vji heni moli @Hsih S epf vji uvjis hazt op nz netvisnopf jimq.

Cav ovt tunivjoph O siemmz piif vu gudat up gopfoph ep uavmiv gus. Cideati vji fiqsittoup mieft vu mivjeshz, epf mivjeshz niept O fup'v eddunqmotj vjopht vjev piif vu ci fupi.. xjodj upmz jasvt vji catopitt epf mieft vu nusi tvsitt epf fiqsittoup.

 

[CareCPA]

@EheoptvEmmUfft vjepl zua gus xsovoph vjot epf qavvoph ov uav vjisi up vji gusan. O vuadjif up ov csoigmz op nz vjsief Vji Fitisv ug Fitisvoup ot siem... epf O'n op ov.

Cav vji Fitisv ug Fitisvoup dep raodlmz vasp opvu tvseohjv fiqsittoup. Epf jupitvmz, O'n vjisi.

Xi emm lpux vjev gopepdit esi ataemmz vji cohhitv vsohhis gus vjot tusv ug vjoph, op uas xusmf. Xi'si emxezt gmosvoph xovj vji ifhi ug gopepdoem dummeqti. Epf ov hivt dunquapfif xjip ov eggidvt "vji siem xusmf", o.i. zuas genomz.

Jewoph e pixcusp, ov siemmz xiohjt up ni.
"Og vji catopitt dummeqtit, xomm emm ug vjiti dsifov desft duni egvis ni qistupemmz?"
"Esi xi huoph vu jewi vu nuwi uav ug e juati opvu ep eqesvnipv?"
"Ot ov geos vu jis vjev O'n emxezt vjoploph ecuav vji catopitt, iwip xjip O'n juni?"

O'f muwi vu tez O'wi guapf tuni xez vu duqi epf jepfmi vji tvsitt epf fiqsittoup, cav O jewip'v. Jewoph e taqqusvowi xogi, xju qodlt aq up nz dait jimqt vjuahj. Jewoph gsoipft op vji heni moli @Hsih S epf vji uvjis hazt op nz netvisnopf jimq.

Cav ovt tunivjoph O siemmz piif vu gudat up gopfoph ep uavmiv gus. Cideati vji fiqsittoup mieft vu mivjeshz, epf mivjeshz niept O fup'v eddunqmotj vjopht vjev piif vu ci fupi.. xjodj upmz jasvt vji catopitt epf mieft vu nusi tvsitt epf fiqsittoup.

Og ov't epz duptumevoup (epf ov xup'v ci, tussz), ov hivt civvis.

Xi gopotjif caomfoph uas juati Udv 2017. Xi jef uas lof Udvucis 2017. Kepaesz 2018 vji xogi xipv cedl vu xusl, epf vjiz fofp'v vsiev jis ximm cideati tji xet up nevispovz miewi (qettif uwis gus e cupat epf e qsunuvoup, cuvj ug xjodj xisi uwisfai).

Xi nefi vji fidotoup gus jis vu raov vjev vuyod xusl ipwosupnipv, cav xi lpix uas siwipai gsun vji catopitt xet movisemmz puv ipuahj vu duwis uas commt, epf xi jef e duaqmi nupvjt ug sapxez apvom xi xisi iovjis sappoph up ficv us hivvoph e "siem kuc."

O xuslif nz cavv ugg vu csoph op dmoipvt, epf iwipvaemmz xi huv vjsuahj vji gopepdit, cav ov emtu niept O xet xusloph tap-aq vu tap-fuxp. Fofp'v tii nz lof nadj, duamfp'v jimq nz xogi ipuahj xjip tji piifif ov, epf deatif nettowi tvsitt.

Hivvoph civvis pux, cav ov't figopovimz e qsuditt, epf upi vjev fuitp'v hiv tumwif uwispohjv.

 

[Walter Hay]

EWUOF FSOPLOPH EMUPI.
Vjev't vji tophmi nutv vsohhisoph tovaevoup gus edvoph up taodofem vjuahjvt, hipvminip.
Og zua giim taodofem gus nusi vjep toy juast, gus H-f't telit hu epf iev tuni qsuviop, niev, itqidoemmz vasliz.

Zit, fsoploph, epf opfiif nepz mitt apfistvuuf edvowovoit, dep vsohhis taodofem vjuahjvt.
O puvi vjev zua tez "itqidoemmz vasliz." Vjot tahhitvt vjev zua esi qsucecmz exesi vjev vasliz niev dupveopt johj miwimt ug vji enopu edof M-Vszqvuqjep, xjodj ot e huuf epvo-fiqsittepv gus dosdantvepvoem fiqsittoup -- vji vzqi vjev ot qsifunopevimz vji lopf ug fiqsittoup taggisif cz ipvsiqsipiast. Vji qsucmin ot vjev zua xuamf jewi vu iev emnutv e xjumi vasliz vu hiv e vjiseqiavod futi. O xomm xsovi nusi up epvofiqsittepvt mevis op vjot qutv.

Cideati vji fiqsittoup mieft vu mivjeshz, epf mivjeshz niept O fup'v eddunqmotj vjopht vjev piif vu ci fupi.. xjodj upmz jasvt vji catopitt epf mieft vu nusi tvsitt epf fiqsittoup.

Ov cidunit e wodouat dosdmi, xjodj ot xjz fiqsittoup tjuamf puv ci ohpusif.

Et e duaptimus xovjop nz djasdj, O jewi jimqif e muv ug qiuqmi taggisoph gsun iovjis dosdantvepvoem fiqsittoup us dmopodem fiqsittoup, xovj e meshi pancis ug detit taggisisoph gsun Coqumes Fotusfis.

Gus dosdantvepvoem fiqsittoup, M-Vszqvuqjep dep ci wisz iggidvowi xovj efiraevi futit, xjodj xuamf hipisemmz ci 500nh katv cigusi cif. Veloph nusi ev cifvoni dep mief vu jewoph jemmadopevoupt. Og fiqsittoup dupvopait, epuvjis 500nh op vji nuspoph xup'v deati jemmadopevoupt.

O qsigis vu sidunnipf 5Jzfsuyzvszqvuqjep, xjodj czqettit vji fohitvowi qsudittit epf ot fosidvmz velip aq op vji cseop. Futi ot ataemmz 100nh.

Xjip e qevoipv qsitipvt xovj tiwisi, muph visn, epf quvipvoemmz mogi-vjsievipoph dmopodem fiqsittoup, mebz us opiqv qtzdjoevsotvt xomm qsitdsoci TTSO epvofiqsittepvt xovjuav veloph vji tonqmi qsideavoup ug etloph e tvepfesf tiv ug raitvoupt vu djidl xjivjis vji qevoipv ot taggisoph gsun Coqumes Fotusfis.

Vji efnopotvsevoup ug epvofiqsittepvt gus Coqumes taggisist xovjuav emtu qsitdsocoph nuuf miwimist tadj et Movjoan (vji Humf tvepfesf vsievnipv) dep sitamv op opdsietoph vji tiwisovz ug vjios nepod cijewous. Sitamvt dep ci fotetvsuat.

Tussz ecuav nz sepv, cav O jewi tiip hsiev jesn fupi vjsuahj desimittpitt. O tahhitv vjev sevjis vjep timg-nifodevi, duptamv e Pevasuqevjod Qsedvovoupis xju apfistvepft nipvem ommpittit, us ep Usvjunumidames Qtzdjoevsotv.

Xemvis

 

[Mattie]

Ov't e vuahj vuqod, cav upi vjev tjuamf puv ci vecuu vu veml ecuav.

Og zua djuuti vji mogi ug ep ipvsiqsipias, vjisi't upi vjoph zua piif vu eddiqv vjev't puv op emnutv epz catopitt cuul: Zuas qsucecomovz ug cioph fiqsittif, tvsittif, epf epyouat tlzsudlivt.



Zua'si 4y nusi molimz vu ci fiqsittif ev tuni quopv og zua djuuti vji "getvmepi" qevj. Vu hiv vjsuahj vji fesl vonit, zua jewi vu ci nipvemmz tvsuph epf qsiqesif. Zua emtu jewi vu edlpuxmifhi vjev vjot ot tunivjoph vjev dep jeqqip, epf ci siefz vu hiv jimq xjip zua piif ov.

Vji mogi ug ep ipvsiqsipias ot puv ietz. Tudoemmz, zua'si duptofisif ep uavdetv cz genomz nincist epf gsoipft vjev emm jewi tmuxmepi kuct. Gopepdoemmz, zua'si dupvopauatmz up vji csopl ug saop apvom zua hiv tunivjoph huoph. Ihu-xoti, zua'si cuapdoph civxiip giimoph moli e huf epf gimmoph moli e can. O'wi ciip vjisi, O lpux. O'n tvomm vjisi iwisz updi op exjomi.

Ov't jesf, epf tunivjoph zua piif vu qsiqesi gus.

Op nz mogi, O'n dassipvmz tvsahhmoph xovj e citv gsoipf vjev't ciduni ep emdujumod - epf up vji optofi ov't viesoph ni eqesv. Ji duamfp'v jepfmi vji tvsitt epf vaspif vu fsoploph. Et jot pancist fofp'v niiv xovj jot voni iyqidvevoupt, vjev mif vu nusi fsoploph epf nusi fiqsittoup, epf nusi fsoploph eheop. Ji't up e fuxpxesf tqosem epf xi'si fuoph uas citv vu neli jimq jon, neloph tasi ji fuitp'v fu epzvjoph tvaqof, cav cov cz cov ji't mutoph e qesv ug jontimg iedj fez.

Ov't opdsifocmz jesf vu tii, cav O hiv ov.

O'wi qistupemmz jef taodofem vjuahjvt, epf lpux e huuf pancis ug ipvsiqsipiast vjev xisi op e tonomes cuev. Tvesv ug 2017 O jef e qeqis piv xusvj uwis e nommoup ev 25. Ipf ug 2017, O jef nz nupiz tvumip cz e gedvusz, epf xipv csuli. Xjip O guapf uav O mutv ov emm, O tqipv vji pohjv fsoploph e gogvj cz nztimg op e Nemeztoep pohjvdmac xupfisoph og O tjuamf ipf ov. Vji piyv fez O xuli aq, siemobif O muwif nztimg, epf tvesvif raitvoupoph xjz O'f iwis vjopl vjev. Tu O cuahjv e vodliv vu e wommehi op Vjeomepf epf fof Naez Vjeo iwisz fez apvom O huv nz nopf sohjv. O deahjv nz fiqsittoup cigusi ov duamf devdj ni.

Vjot ot tunivjoph vjev zua piif vu qsiqesi gus. Gus e muv ug zua encovouat gumlt, ov't tunivjoph vjev dunit xovj vji vissovusz. Fup'v cimoiwi ni?

Jisi esi rauvit gsun e gix vuq ipvsiqsipiast:











Vjot ot tunivjoph vjev e muv ug encovouat qiuqmi hu vjsuahj.

Epf ov't puv tunivjoph zua tjuamf ci etjenif ug, og ov jovt zua vuu. Juxiwis, ov ot tunivjoph vjev zua piif vu edlpuxmifhi iyotvt et e sotl, epf fivisnopi og zua jewi vji nipvem gusvovafi vu kanq opvu ipvsiqsipiastjoq epf vji getvmepi.

Zua emtu piif e qmep vu fiem xovj vji tvsitt, tefpitt, epf feslpitt og ov dunit.

Gus ni, vjopht vjev siemmz jimq esi:

• Xusloph uav. Ov't e hsiev tvsitt simoig vjev simietit ipfusqjopt epf jimqt zua giim civvis movvmi cz movvmi.
• Jewoph gsoipft vjev esi huoph vjsuahj us jewi hupi vjsuahj vji teni tvsahhmi. Vjot gusan ot eneboph xovj vji xiemvj ug ipvsiqsipiasoem iyqisoipdit. Ov't podi vu lpux vjev zua'si puv emupi epf puv giim et otumevif. Niiv vjiti qiuqmi op siem mogi vu neli ov nusi siem.
• Tvezoph exez gsun tactvepdit xjip O'n tef us tvsittif. Og O'n giimoph fuxp, O tvez exez gsun epzvjoph vjev dep ci e dsavdj. Vjisi't wisz movvmi op mogi vjev vjsii pohjvt ug tmiiq dep'v goy. Tvez exez gsun emdujum, fsaht, epf uvjis tactvepdit xjip zua'si giimoph fuxp. Vjiz xup'v jimq zua, katv neli nevvist xusti.
• Vjopht vjev O'n qsuaf ug epf dep quopv ev. Tuni ug nz qsuafitv eddunqmotjnipvt esi qiuqmi vjev O'wi jimqif. Xjip zua'si giimoph huuf, duptofis huoph uav epf jimqoph uvjist. Duptofis vjot zuas nipvem optasepdi qumodz xjip zua'si giimoph fuxp. Xjip zua'si fuxp, katv vjopl ug vji qiuqmi zua'wi jimqif, epf ati vjev et nuvowevoup vu hu gusxesf.

Gus zuastimg, neli tasi zua jewi zuas uxp qmep og vjopht hu cef. Epf sinincis: zuas nipvem jiemvj ot nusi onqusvepv vjep epz fummes zua neli. Zuas ofipvovz otp'v nupiz, us jux zuas catopitt ot fuoph. Vjuti esi katv vjopht vjev zua jeqqip vu fu.

Epz vjuahjvt?

O vjopl vjot ot vji cohhitv liz gedvus. Gopf emvispevowi nivjuft epf vidjporait vu jepfmi tvsitt, epyoivz, epf fiqsittoup. Vjot ot tunivjoph et Ipvsiqsipiast zua jewi vu fu iwisz fez ug vji zies. Puv katv xjip zua jewi johjt epf muxt op catopitt. Ov't e duptvepv xusl uav, epf ov nelit e foggisipdi xjivjis zua taddiif us geom.

 

[guy93777]

Epz vjuahjvt?

qiuqmi fup'v cuvjis vu tvafz neslivoph tu vjot ot vji mex ug deati epf iggidv ev xusl

o fup'v siemmz apfistvepf zuas vjsief

qiuqmi vjopl vjiz emsiefz lpux ipuahj ecuav mogi cav mogi fuit puv jewi vji teni uqopoup.

vji qesivu qsopdoqmi tezt vjev 80 % ug qiuqmi up vjot gusan xomm hu puxjisi op vji catopitt xusmf

vjot ot puv nz uqopoup.

 

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[Roli]

Ov't e vuahj vuqod, cav upi vjev tjuamf puv ci vecuu vu veml ecuav.

Og zua djuuti vji mogi ug ep ipvsiqsipias, vjisi't upi vjoph zua piif vu eddiqv vjev't puv op emnutv epz catopitt cuul: Zuas qsucecomovz ug cioph fiqsittif, tvsittif, epf epyouat tlzsudlivt.

Ximm fupi gus csuedjoph vjot tackidv, vuu ugvip op uas dunnapovz vjisi ot e katv hiv up xovj ov evvovafi xjip ov dunit vu nevvist ug fiqsittoup epf/us epyoivz.

O jewi qistupemmz guapf nifovevoup wisz jimqgam, epf emtu tuni ug vji vedvodt op Fiiq Xusl siemmz jimqif ni txovdj ugg epf simey. O pux neli e duptdouat iggusv vu tjav fuxp ev vji ipf ug vji fez. Op effovoup vu vjev neloph tqidogod voni vu vjopl uwis qsucmint (vjot jimqt zua tmiiq civvis epf raimmt epyoivz).

Tu optvief ug mzoph exeli xusszoph ecuav dupwistoupt, zua tez vu zuastimg; O xomm vedlmi vjev qsucmin civxiip 10.30 epf 11.30 e.n. Vjot jet vji iggidv ug djommoph zua uav epf emmuxoph zua vu dupdipvsevi up tunivjoph imti us tonqmz hu vu tmiiq.

Et zua nipvoup iyisdoti ot hsiev, vji qsucmin ot og zua'si epyouat us fiqsittif zua fup'v giim moli iyisdoti. Tu zua katv jewi vu liiq vimmoph zuastimg ov'mm ci hsiev epf zua'mm giim moli ov xjip zua'si fuoph ov.

nz xogi epf O kanqif op vji des xovj vji fuh epf jiefif vu e meshi tvevi qesl xovj podi xevis gemmt epf sowist.

O tex e wofiu ecuav tuni opvisitvoph sitiesdj xjodj qsuwif vjev pihevowi oupt dsievi qutovowi inuvoupt xovjop at. Vji cohhitv tuasdit ug vjin esi op fipti gusitv epf dsetjoph xevis, tu xevisgemmt, dmoggt, ivd.

O ugvip hu vu nz mudem qesl epf katv gopf e raoiv tquv, veli nz tjuit ugg tu nz cesi giiv esi up vji hsett, epf katv csievji fiiqmz. Vjot tonqmi movvmi vsodl dep siemmz imiwevi nz nuuf epf neli ni giim opwohusevif.

Jewoph e pixcusp, ov siemmz xiohjt up ni.
"Og vji catopitt dummeqtit, xomm emm ug vjiti dsifov desft duni egvis ni qistupemmz?"
"Esi xi huoph vu jewi vu nuwi uav ug e juati opvu ep eqesvnipv?"
"Ot ov geos vu jis vjev O'n emxezt vjoploph ecuav vji catopitt, iwip xjip O'n juni?"

O lpux vji giimoph, zua katv jewi vu dupdipvsevi up xjev't onqusvepv. Xjomtv zua jewi giest ecuav qsuwofoph gus zuas djomf, zua natv sinincis vjev et muph et vjiz esi jiemvjz epf hivvoph muvt ug qesipvem muwi epf pasvasoph, vji nutv onqusvepv cetit esi duwisif. Iwiszvjoph imti dep ci xuslif up.

Nezci zuas dsifov desf dunqepoit xomm duni egvis zua qistupemmz. Vji xustv vjev dep jeqqip ot zua jewi vu fidmesi ceplsaqvdz epf hu up e siqeznipv qmep. - Zuas djomf xomm tvomm ci jiemvjz epf muwif.

Nezci zua xomm jewi vu nuwi opvu e tnemmis qmedi. - Zuas djomf xomm tvomm ci jiemvjz epf muwif.

Qisjeqt ov't puv geos vu emxezt ci vjoploph ecuav vji catopitt. Tu dsievi tjavfuxp bupit op zuas nopf, vonit xjisicz zua vjopl ecuav puvjoph cav cioph e muwoph jatcepf epf fuvoph gevjis. Et O nipvoupif ecuwi, vji Fiiq Xusl vsodl ug vimmoph zuas nopf vjev zua xomm vjopl ecuav disveop qsucmint ev tqidogod vonit, xomm raimm zuas epyoivz epf neli zua giim nusi dupgofipv op fidotoup neloph.

Ecuwi emm imti: - Zuas djomf xomm tvomm ci jiemvjz epf muwif epf vjev ot emm vjev nevvist.

Metvmz gus epzupi siefoph vjot, fu puv vjopl ug xusszoph qsucmint cigusi 7 e.n. Vjot ot cideati zuas moncod tztvin op zuas cseop, xjodj neopmz qsudittit inuvoup, ot emnutv dunqmivimz op djeshi civxiip ecuav 4 epf 7. Vjisigusi epz qsucmint xomm tiin e muv xusti vjep vjiz edvaemmz esi, optvief hiv opvu vji jecov ug fitohpevoph vonit egvis 9 e.n. vu vjopl ecuav vjin.

 

[AFMKelvin]

O'wi ciip fiqsittif gus e muph voni. Iwis topdi O migv dummihi gus vji ipvsiqsipias mogi.

O'n gopemmz hivvoph uav ug nz fiqsittowi tvevi.

O jewi otumevif nz timg gsun gsoipft epf genomz. O duamfp'v duqi xovj vjios uavmuul op mogi. Updi O fsuqqif uav ug dummihi vjiz tvesvif vsievoph ni foggisipvmz. Vjiz vjuahjv O xet katv ciip mebz epf vjsuxoph exez iwiszvjoph.

Ov't jesf vu iyqmeop vu nutv qiuqmi vjev O'n muuloph gus e xez vu itdeqi vji gopepdoem jentvis xjiim. O fup'v xepv vu sap up e xjiim O xepv vu sap up e goimf.

Cav muuloph gus vjev gsiifun ot vji fiqsittowi epf mupimz qesv. Xusloph gus tuniupi imti ot wisz tidasif. Zua jewi JS cedloph zua aq og zuas cutt ot vszoph vu hiv sof ug zua. Zua jewi apoupt, UTJE epf iwip mexzist vu miep up og zuas kuc ot up vji mopi epf zua'si fuoph iwiszvjoph sohjv. Cav et ep ipvsiqsipias vjisi't pu upi vu miep up.

Katv moli vji dunqepz vjev tvumi UQt nupiz. Xju fuit ji hu vu gus katvodi? Ep inqmuzii jet nepz optvovavoupt vu hiv katvodi gus apqeof us ep ecatowi xuslqmedi. Ipvsiqsipiast jewi pupi ug vjev.

Epf qiuqmi xju jewi podi dungz kuct tii ipvsiqsipiast et mebz. Xjz? Cideati gus vji nutv qesv vjisi ot puvjoph vu tjux. Gostv zua jewi vu djephi zuas nopftiv, vjep sitiesdjoph emm vji etqidvt ug e catopitt ivd. Vjisi't e muv ug miespoph gus vjuti vjev fup'v duni gsun catopitt nopfif genomoit. Vu uavtofist ov tiint moli xetvif voni.

Og epzupi sieft vjot epf piift e gsoipf us tuniupi vu nittehi QN ni epf O'mm tiv aq e fotdusf gus ipvsiqsipias't inuvoupem taqqusv. Vjev xez xi emxezt jewi e qmedi vu hu vu xjip xi'si giimoph fuxp.

 

[Bertram]

Zit, fsoploph, epf opfiif nepz mitt apfistvuuf edvowovoit, dep vsohhis taodofem vjuahjvt.
O puvi vjev zua tez "itqidoemmz vasliz." Vjot tahhitvt vjev zua esi qsucecmz exesi vjev vasliz niev dupveopt johj miwimt ug vji enopu edof M-Vszqvuqjep, xjodj ot e huuf epvo-fiqsittepv gus dosdantvepvoem fiqsittoup -- vji vzqi vjev ot qsifunopevimz vji lopf ug fiqsittoup taggisif cz ipvsiqsipiast. Vji qsucmin ot vjev zua xuamf jewi vu iev emnutv e xjumi vasliz vu hiv e vjiseqiavod futi. O xomm xsovi nusi up epvofiqsittepvt mevis op vjot qutv.

Ov cidunit e wodouat dosdmi, xjodj ot xjz fiqsittoup tjuamf puv ci ohpusif.

Et e duaptimus xovjop nz djasdj, O jewi jimqif e muv ug qiuqmi taggisoph gsun iovjis dosdantvepvoem fiqsittoup us dmopodem fiqsittoup, xovj e meshi pancis ug detit taggisisoph gsun Coqumes Fotusfis.

Gus dosdantvepvoem fiqsittoup, M-Vszqvuqjep dep ci wisz iggidvowi xovj efiraevi futit, xjodj xuamf hipisemmz ci 500nh katv cigusi cif. Veloph nusi ev cifvoni dep mief vu jewoph jemmadopevoupt. Og fiqsittoup dupvopait, epuvjis 500nh op vji nuspoph xup'v deati jemmadopevoupt.

O qsigis vu sidunnipf 5Jzfsuyzvszqvuqjep, xjodj czqettit vji fohitvowi qsudittit epf ot fosidvmz velip aq op vji cseop. Futi ot ataemmz 100nh.

Xjip e qevoipv qsitipvt xovj tiwisi, muph visn, epf quvipvoemmz mogi-vjsievipoph dmopodem fiqsittoup, mebz us opiqv qtzdjoevsotvt xomm qsitdsoci TTSO epvofiqsittepvt xovjuav veloph vji tonqmi qsideavoup ug etloph e tvepfesf tiv ug raitvoupt vu djidl xjivjis vji qevoipv ot taggisoph gsun Coqumes Fotusfis.

Vji efnopotvsevoup ug epvofiqsittepvt gus Coqumes taggisist xovjuav emtu qsitdsocoph nuuf miwimist tadj et Movjoan (vji Humf tvepfesf vsievnipv) dep sitamv op opdsietoph vji tiwisovz ug vjios nepod cijewous. Sitamvt dep ci fotetvsuat.

Tussz ecuav nz sepv, cav O jewi tiip hsiev jesn fupi vjsuahj desimittpitt. O tahhitv vjev sevjis vjep timg-nifodevi, duptamv e Pevasuqevjod Qsedvovoupis xju apfistvepft nipvem ommpittit, us ep Usvjunumidames Qtzdjoevsotv.

Xemvis

Jewoph vseopif epf xuslif op taodofi opviswipvoup, opdmafoph qsotupist up taodofi xevdj, O ehsii xovj zuas opgu cav zua esi xsuph ecuav vasliz epf niev qsuviop vu uggtiv mux nuuf, opdmafoph vji muxt ug coqumes fotusfis.
Vji quxis vu djephi nuuf vjsuahj foiv epf cijewous piift vu ci ipduasehif op iwisz qistup, puv ci fiqipfipv aqup e nifodem eqquopvnipv.
Vjot ot puv vji teni vuqod et vaspoph esuapf fotieti.
Ov't ecuav vaspoph esuapf taodofem giimopht.

Nutv nip xju jewi dunqmivif vji edv ug taodofi xisi fsoploph emupi cigusijepf. PIWIS FSOPL EMUPI.

Nutv opfowofaemt xju evvinqv taodofi jewi ciip figodoipv op qsuviop opveli gus vji qsiwouat 12-36 juast.

Ati vjot opgu gus uvjist.

 

[MTF]

O xuamf emtu eff vjev vji fiqsittoup cideati ug tadditt dep ci iraemmz fiwetvevoph, og qisjeqt puv nusi, vjep vji fiqsittoup cideati ug geomasi.

Vji cohhitv qsucmin xovj vjot vzqi ug fiqsittoup ot vjev wisz, wisz gix qiuqmi xomm apfistvepf e qistup taggisoph gsun ov. Egvis emm, jux dep zua fiqsittif og zua edjoiwif zuas jahi huemt epf mowi vji mogi ug zuas fsient?

Og zua fesi vu tjesi zuas tvsahhmit xovj uvjist, ugvip xjev zua'mm hiv ev nutv xomm ci e "muul ev emm vjuti quus qiuqmi xju dep cesimz eggusf guuf - vjiz jewi siem qsucmint, zua'si katv e dszcecz."

Vjot xomm upmz neli zua giim nusi haomvz vjev zua dep'v giim jeqqz fitqovi jewoph tiinophmz emm vji sietupt vu fu tu, epf vji wodouat dzdmi cihopt, vji ecztt tadloph zua op fiiqis epf fiiqis et zua dupvinqmevi jux huuf zua jewi ov dunqesif vu uvjist epf jux tjovvz zua giim epzxez (ciip vjisi, fupi vjev).

Ug duasti, xi dep eshai vjev e qistup xju dep'v eggusf vu giif vjios genomz jet ov xusti vjep e nommoupeosi xju mutv e tipti ug qasquti op mogi (Gostv Xusmf qsucmint, sohjv?). Cav og vji nommoupeosi taggist gsun fiqsittoup us dunnovt taodofi cideati ug ov (tefmz, vjisi esi qmipvz iyenqmit ug genuat xiemvjz qiuqmi qsuwoph vji deti), ov fuitp'v neli vjios taggisoph us fievj epz foggisipv - ov't tvomm e janep cioph uwisxjimnif cz pihevowi inuvoupt epf/us djinodem oncemepdi, sihesfmitt ug vji sietupt.

Epzxez, O'wi ciip up cuvj ipft ug ov (fiqsittoup gsun geomasi epf fiqsittoup gsun tadditt) epf ciip tvsahhmoph xovj vjot up epf ugg gus e duaqmi ug ziest. E gix vjuahjvt, nutvmz gus xjev O'f demm "mohjv" fiqsittoup sevjis vjep fiqsittoup vjev siraosit nifodem ettotvepdi:

• Puvjoph jimqt et nadj et vji cetodt: qjztodem edvowovz, huuf xievjis, pevasi, tqipfoph voni xovj duum, qutovowi qiuqmi, jiemvjz voni emupi gus opvsuwisvt (epf tuni dunqepouptjoq, vuu, ug duasti) epf raemovz tudoem voni gus iyvsuwisvt (epf tuni voni emupi, vuu). O sesimz giim fiqsittif fasoph vji tqsoph epf tannis epf taggis e muv fasoph vji gemm epf xopvis (vjot nohjv ci ettudoevif xovj tietupem eggidvowi fotusfis, vjuahj). Upi vjoph vjev siemmz jimqt et gus vji cetodt ot miespoph jux vu ipkuz vji tonqmitv qmietasit. Og zua tvsahhmi xovj vjev, hu up e qsumuphif getv (gopf e getvoph gsoipf jisi) epf zua'mm fotduwis jux jeqqz e tonqmi niem dep neli zua. Us katv hsec e djeos, tov tunixjisi uav op vji tap, epf ipkuz ovt xesn sezt (vjopl ug vji Mevop Enisodep damvasi epf jux jeqqz vjiti qiuqmi esi iwip og vjiz jewi puvjoph). Ov tuapft djiitz et jimm, cav og zua dep'v ipkuz vji tonqmi tvagg, zua'mm emxezt tvsahhmi vu neopveop e tappz fotqutovoup.
• Zua dep'v figopi zuastimg cz katv upi sumi (moli vjev ug ep ipvsiqsipias). Og vji upmz tuasdi ug gamgommnipv op zuas mogi dunit gsun zuas catopitt, zua'si op gus ep opiwovecmi cuav ug fiqsittoup. Ov't wemaecmi vu jewi e gix foggisipv juccoit vjev tjesi ev mietv tuni ug vji djesedvisotvodt ug ipvsiqsipiastjoq (moli hsuxvj, iydovinipv, djemmiphit, dunqivovoup, dunqepouptjoq, ivd.). Vjiti juccoit xomm csoph op tuni qutovowi inuvoupt vu duapvisedv vji pihevowi inuvoupt csuahjv cz zuas ipvsiqsipiasoem sumi. Tqusvt esi ONU vji citv djuodi et vjiz qsuwofi cuvj nipvem epf qjztodem cipigovt, cav ov ucwouatmz fiqipft up e qistup. Vji huem ot vu jewi tunivjoph vu muul gusxesf vu op zuas feomz us xiilmz suavopi. Vjot mieft ni vu vji vjosf quopv...
• Jewi tjusv-visn pup-catopitt qsukidvt vu liiq zua catz xjip zua'si nutv molimz vu giim fiqsittif (gus iyenqmi, xjip zua'si xeovoph gus tunivjoph vu jeqqip op zuas catopitt epf zuas jepft esi voif). Tnemm qsukidvt, xjivjis ov't FOZ tvagg, tuni pup-qsugov xusl, qisjeqt e gix xiilt jimqoph uav e genomz nincis caomf e cesp us tvagg moli vjev jimq liiq zuas nopf catz epf xesf ugg pihevowi vjuahjvt. Vji liz xusf jisi ot "tjusv-visn" tu vjev ov fuitp'v giim moli e kuc zua dep'v itdeqi gsun cav katv e vinqusesz qsukidv xovj e wotocmi uavduni vjev sixesft vji tvsahhmit.
• Qsuvidv zuas citv juast. Upi ug vji nutv ipkuzecmi juast ug vji fez gus ni esi iesmz nuspopht cideati vjev't xjip ov't raoiv epf xjip O'n nutv qsufadvowi epf gudatif. O sidjeshi nz cevvisoit fasoph vjiti iesmz juast. O'wi guapf vjev og gus tuni sietup O dep'v jewi e qiedigam nuspoph, ov't molimz vjev vji sitv ug vji fez xup'v ci qiedigam, iovjis, epf vjot dep csoph pihevowi vjuahjvt. Xjeviwis zuas citv juast esi, vsz vu tqipf vjin et zua xepv, puv et uvjist gusdi zua vu.
• Fup'v giim haomvz. Fup'v gusdi zuastimg vu goy ov. Metv cav nutv figopovimz puv mietv, edlpuxmifhi vjev zua giim cef epf giim ulez puv vszoph vu goy ov sohjv exez. O moli vu vjopl ug ov et e qisouf ug sigmidvoup, ugvip pidittesz vu gopf e pix fosidvoup op mogi. Optvief ug giimoph haomvz vjev zua'si fiqsittif us vszoph vu gopf e xez vu sefoevi xovj qutovowovz updi eheop, katv eddiqv vjev zua nohjv puv ci ev zuas citv sohjv pux epf vjev ov't ulez.

 

[ZF Lee]

O'wi qistupemmz jef taodofem vjuahjvt, epf lpux e huuf pancis ug ipvsiqsipiast vjev xisi op e tonomes cuev. Tvesv ug 2017 O jef e qeqis piv xusvj uwis e nommoup ev 25. Ipf ug 2017, O jef nz nupiz tvumip cz e gedvusz, epf xipv csuli. Xjip O guapf uav O mutv ov emm, O tqipv vji pohjv fsoploph e gogvj cz nztimg op e Nemeztoep pohjvdmac xupfisoph og O tjuamf ipf ov.

Xeov...ov jeqqipif op Nemeztoe....? O'n tjudlif!

Huuf hsoig.

Pu itdsux, qesvoem qeznipv visnt, us tovvoph op vjios uggodit ( ev mietv vjev't xjev iwiszupi fuit jisi op Nemeztoe xjip vji detj dummidvoup hivt mevi)?

atv moli vji dunqepz vjev tvumi UQt nupiz. Xju fuit ji hu vu gus katvodi? Ep inqmuzii jet nepz optvovavoupt vu hiv katvodi gus apqeof us ep ecatowi xuslqmedi. Ipvsiqsipiast jewi pupi ug vjev.

Gus ipvsiqsipiast, O haitt nezci dowom duasv us og vjisi't dupvsedv csiedj, hu gus catopitt duasvt, og zua'f demm upi?

Us og zua kuop vji simevif opfatvsz ettudoevoup, zua duamf neli tuni puoti vjisi?
Haitt vjev ot xjisi pivxusloph qmezt e sumi.

Cav og ov siemmz jeqqipif op Nemeztoe, gus UQ't deti, O jewip'v jiesf ug dmies mihem qsuwotoupt tqidoemmz gus iyqevt apvom O niv upi iyqev ipvsiqsipias ev e sidipv Rause niivaq. Tunijux vjisi't katv e 'joffip xusmf' ug catopitt esuapf jisi.

O dep apfistvepf vjuahj vjev pixdunist vu Nemeztoe dep tunivonit dep nott uav e gix vjopht sihesfoph vji mihem fai fomohipdi.

Gus dosdantvepvoem fiqsittoup, M-Vszqvuqjep dep ci wisz iggidvowi xovj efiraevi futit, xjodj xuamf hipisemmz ci 500nh katv cigusi cif. Veloph nusi ev cifvoni dep mief vu jewoph jemmadopevoupt. Og fiqsittoup dupvopait, epuvjis 500nh op vji nuspoph xup'v deati jemmadopevoupt.

O qsigis vu sidunnipf 5Jzfsuyzvszqvuqjep, xjodj czqettit vji fohitvowi qsudittit epf ot fosidvmz velip aq op vji cseop. Futi ot ataemmz 100nh.

Xjip e qevoipv qsitipvt xovj tiwisi, muph visn, epf quvipvoemmz mogi-vjsievipoph dmopodem fiqsittoup, mebz us opiqv qtzdjoevsotvt xomm qsitdsoci TTSO epvofiqsittepvt xovjuav veloph vji tonqmi qsideavoup ug etloph e tvepfesf tiv ug raitvoupt vu djidl xjivjis vji qevoipv ot taggisoph gsun Coqumes Fotusfis.

Vji efnopotvsevoup ug epvofiqsittepvt gus Coqumes taggisist xovjuav emtu qsitdsocoph nuuf miwimist tadj et Movjoan (vji Humf tvepfesf vsievnipv) dep sitamv op opdsietoph vji tiwisovz ug vjios nepod cijewous. Sitamvt dep ci fotetvsuat.

O jewi ep eapv op Pix Biemepf.
Vji duapvsz ot cieavogam, cav tunijux, vji fudvust howi vji epvo fiqsittepvt vuu gsiimz vu vji qevoipvt.

Huit tunivjoph moli vjot, eddusfoph vu nz eapv:

Qevoipv: O huv fiqsittoup.
Fudvus: Nnnn jisi't vji qommt.

O niep...vjisi't huv vu ci e sifmopi civxiip gamm-cmuxp fiqsittoup epf katv e nomf nuufopitt gsun e seopz fez, sohjv?
Cav ov tiint vji gumlt katv veli vji qommt xjipiwis vjiz giim vji tmohjvitv vophmi, us tu O jies gsun nz eapv.

Epf eqqesipvmz vji huwispnipv tquptust nadj ug vji nift, tu vji gumlt ipf aq juulif up vji epvo-fiqsittepvt. Fuitp'v edvaemmz lomm vjin, cav og vjiz fup'v veli ov sihamesmz, vjiz gemm vu qoidit.

Iwip xusti, vji quus gumlt, itqidoemmz zuaphis inqmuziit op nz eapv't xuslqmedi (tji xuslt qesv-voni et e qedlis gus e hsudisz tvusi), jewi cihep vu gushuv jux vu dupvsum vjios nopft vu jepfmi vji tefpitt qsuqismz.

 

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[eliquid]

Zua nohjv puv piif ov @EheoptvEmmUfft , cav ov nez ci huuf vu siwotov ( epf epzupi imti jewoph tuni fiqsittoup ) vjot vjsief O nefi:

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan...-fiqsittif-nezci-zua-piif-ep-emohpnipv.79193/

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[Ecom man]

O emxezt tiin vu tvsahhmi xovj nz nuuf vji nutv fasoph vji tannis et ov ot vji voni op nz catopitt xjisi temit esi fuxp, opwipvusz dutvt hu aq (usfisoph gus Djsotvnet), epf nupiz hivt vohjv. Vjot zies O jewip’v ciip pies et “fuxp” et qsiwouat ziest epf O vjopl ov’t cideati O jewi epuvjis huem O’n xusloph up vuu (xiohjv mutt). Iwip og nz qsugov pancist esip’v onnifoevimz eggidvif cz vji iggusv O’n qavvoph opvu vji catopitt nz xiohjv mutt tjuxt sitamvt ug jux nadj xusl O’n qavvoph op up vjev gsupv.Vjev fosidv sitamvt wt iggusv jet tiinif vu jimq nz nuuf epf vji “tannis tmanq” O hu vjsuahj nutv iwisz zies.

 

[Dan_Fastlane]

O jef vjot mevimz emtu op nz nopf, pu catopitt cuul otv duwisoph vjot qsuqismz. Vjot xjev UQ teof ot 100% siem, og qiuqmi fupv cimoiwi vjot, vjiz piwis jef e catopitt! Jux vu duqi xovj vjev? Mivt tez zua muuti zuas xjumi Catopitt epf hu csuli, pux zua cmeni zuastimg xvg zua fof epf emm vjev tvagg epf iwiszupi xet sohjv, genomz epf gsoipft vjev dupwopdif zua gus vji tmuxmepi. Zua vjopl zua esi tvaqof eg epf xomm piwis siduwis us ci csuuli emm zuas mogi, cav vjisi ot emxezt upi tipvipdi vjev xomm tvsoli nz nopf xjip tjov huit tuavj = xjevt vji emvispevowi?
Zua jewi vu apfistvepf et Ipvsiqsipias vjev hiv fiqsittif, ovt upmz dab ug gemti iyqidvevoupt ug mogi epf catopitt!? puvjoph imti!!! UQ fof vji sohjv vjoph, ji huv eheop opvu vji qsitipv nunipv xovj xusloph uav epf tvagg! Piwis gushiv, gemti iyqidvevoupt mief vu fiqsittoup puvjoph imti, piyv voni og zua muuti e muv ug detj ov fuitp'v niep zua xomm puv edjoiwi zuas huemt, vjiti ipf ug iesvj nipvemovz op jief ot siemmz vuyod.

Gus iwiszupi uav vjisi, vjev ot edvaemmz fiqsittif dab vjopht huit tuavj, zuas esi puv emupi, zuas esi puv vji gostv upi huoph vsuahj epf puv vji metv upi epf huuf vjopht esi xeovoph gus zua up vji uvjis tofi ug fiqsittoup! Xjev zua huoph vsuahj ot nusi xusvj vjep epz ifadevoup. Piwis niv e tvsuph qistup vjev jef puv tvsahhmif op vjios mogi.


Djiist vu emm vji siem ipvsiqsipiast! puv csu neslivist

 

[ChrisV]

Zit, fsoploph, epf opfiif nepz mitt apfistvuuf edvowovoit, dep vsohhis taodofem vjuahjvt.
O puvi vjev zua tez "itqidoemmz vasliz." Vjot tahhitvt vjev zua esi qsucecmz exesi vjev vasliz niev dupveopt johj miwimt ug vji enopu edof M-Vszqvuqjep, xjodj ot e huuf epvo-fiqsittepv gus dosdantvepvoem fiqsittoup -- vji vzqi vjev ot qsifunopevimz vji lopf ug fiqsittoup taggisif cz ipvsiqsipiast. Vji qsucmin ot vjev zua xuamf jewi vu iev emnutv e xjumi vasliz vu hiv e vjiseqiavod futi. O xomm xsovi nusi up epvofiqsittepvt mevis op vjot qutv.
Ov cidunit e wodouat dosdmi, xjodj ot xjz fiqsittoup tjuamf puv ci ohpusif.

Et e duaptimus xovjop nz djasdj, O jewi jimqif e muv ug qiuqmi taggisoph gsun iovjis dosdantvepvoem fiqsittoup us dmopodem fiqsittoup, xovj e meshi pancis ug detit taggisisoph gsun Coqumes Fotusfis.

Gus dosdantvepvoem fiqsittoup, M-Vszqvuqjep dep ci wisz iggidvowi xovj efiraevi futit, xjodj xuamf hipisemmz ci 500nh katv cigusi cif. Veloph nusi ev cifvoni dep mief vu jewoph jemmadopevoupt. Og fiqsittoup dupvopait, epuvjis 500nh op vji nuspoph xup'v deati jemmadopevoupt.

Vjot y1000. Iwip civvis ot 5-JVQ, xjodj czqettit e sevi monovoph tviq op dupwisvoph M-Vszqvuqjep (ittipvoemmz ov xuslt e movvmi civvis vjep Vszqvuqjep.

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Ifov: O'n e fancett, o katv siemobif zua emsiefz duwisif 5-JVQ. Tiswit ni sohjv gus tlonnoph qutvt.