Introverts vs Extroverts (The forum is mostly introverts?)

[Longinus]

Neither, just like the majority of people probably. I love to be alone sometimes and I love to be with people too.

I've seen that this introvert/extrovert stuff leads to a static mindset in general ("I can't do that because I'm a this or that"), just like most of personality tests and profiles.

Personality tests are mental masturbation anyway. They lead to nothing but to getting stuck in limited beliefs.

My tactics? What makes people buy from me, not what fits my personality lmfao.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

I don't think the results are surprising at all.

The majority of this forum consists of social outcasts - people that decided to think a different way than the rest of society.

Personally, I'm introverted most of the time, but I attribute that not to being a loner, but to mostly not seeing eye to eye with most people I meet. The majority of people are uninteresting or incapable of having an interaction that supersedes the entertainment value of spending time by myself.

I'd bet if the world was filled with fastlaners, we'd all say we're extroverted since we'd love spending time with others. You can probably see this at any fastlane meetup. However, the world is filled with slowlaners so we decide that spending time by ourselves is more pleasant than living out a slowlane interaction.

Put an athlete in a world of academics and he becomes the loner that likes to run by himself. Put a professor in a world of athletes and he becomes the weirdo that reads books.

Basically: whether you're introverted or extroverted is extremely dependent on your environment. Since we belong to a small subsect of people, we have to create our own world if we want to be extroverts.

 

[amp0193]

A lot of us are not putting in any time into social things - so obviously over time we become uncomfortable in those situations and inevitably we become introverts - I used to be an extrovert when I was younger, but once I DECIDED to commit to becoming successful (i.e I wanted success as much as a drowning man wants to breath air!) I slowly became an introvert - now I'm pretty much a loner that just enjoys my own company.

Sounds like it's working for you, so not suggesting that you need to change anything... just gonna share.

The best thing I've learned from @LightHouse in the last couple of months is to strive for success is in all areas of your life. If you get to the top of the business world, but you've got no one left around you... is it really a success? Just something to think about.

Yes, for me, business is the primary focus. However, each week I am now setting goals for family, goals for friends, goals for health and personal finance.

To attempt to quantify it, I would say that my relationship with my wife is 3x better than before I started setting these goals 2 months ago. I've made time for a lunch here and there for friends when I normally wouldn't have thought to. I should probably call my mom more... maybe that'll be a goal for next week.

 

[MakeItHappen]

I'd bet if the world was filled with fastlaners, we'd all say we're extroverted since we'd love spending time with others. You can probably see this at any fastlane meetup. However, the world is filled with slowlaners so we decide that spending time by ourselves is more pleasant than living out a slowlane interaction.

100% THIS

To me having small talk with random people talking about the latest movie & sports event bores the shit out of me and drains me of all my energy.
However meeting with business oriented ambitious people is super motivating and energizing to me.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Wow, the poll shows mostly introverts. Would have never guessed that here. Expected to see a 66/33 in favor of extroverts.

 

[James Cozens]

I don't think the results are surprising at all.

The majority of this forum consists of social outcasts - people that decided to think a different way than the rest of society.

Personally, I'm introverted most of the time, but I attribute that not to being a loner, but to mostly not seeing eye to eye with most people I meet. The majority of people are uninteresting or incapable of having an interaction that supersedes the entertainment value of spending time by myself.

I'd bet if the world was filled with fastlaners, we'd all say we're extroverted since we'd love spending time with others. You can probably see this at any fastlane meetup. However, the world is filled with slowlaners so we decide that spending time by ourselves is more pleasant than living out a slowlane interaction.

Put an athlete in a world of academics and he becomes the loner that likes to run by himself. Put a professor in a world of athletes and he becomes the weirdo that reads books.

Basically: whether you're introverted or extroverted is extremely dependent on your environment. Since we belong to a small subsect of people, we have to create our own world if we want to be extroverts.

To add to that: perhaps the introvert entrepreneurs are here on the forum whereas the extrovert entrepreneurs are out at business networking groups

 

[Kak]

I am right in the dividing line when I take the personality test. Whether I want to be social or not definitely depends on the environment I am in.

I'd say I'm 55% INT and 45% EXT.

 

[amp0193]

Personality tests are mental masturbation anyway. They lead to nothing but to getting stuck in limited beliefs.

One thing I think they are really useful for, is for gaining a deeper understanding of someone who is different than you.

A lot of my inter-relationship conflict went away when we did those tests and I realized that my significant other was wired up a lot differently than I was.

It's like getting to peek inside their brain.

 

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[Healthfulness]

Introvert to the maximum, but I function so well that most people think I'm extrovert.
Honestly I just wan't to live deep in the forest with online business, but while I'm working towards that I will be as "extravorted" as neccessary.

 

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[jon.M]

In my experience, introverts make up the majority of most forums I have spent time on. It's a good communication channel for introverts. It lets you connect with likeminded people while still keeping some distance, in a way.

Extroverts are maybe more prone to talking to people in real life, facebook etc?

 

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[YoungPadawan]

I don't think the results are surprising at all.

The majority of this forum consists of social outcasts - people that decided to think a different way than the rest of society.

Personally, I'm introverted most of the time, but I attribute that not to being a loner, but to mostly not seeing eye to eye with most people I meet. The majority of people are uninteresting or incapable of having an interaction that supersedes the entertainment value of spending time by myself.

I'd bet if the world was filled with fastlaners, we'd all say we're extroverted since we'd love spending time with others. You can probably see this at any fastlane meetup. However, the world is filled with slowlaners so we decide that spending time by ourselves is more pleasant than living out a slowlane interaction.

Put an athlete in a world of academics and he becomes the loner that likes to run by himself. Put a professor in a world of athletes and he becomes the weirdo that reads books.

Basically: whether you're introverted or extroverted is extremely dependent on your environment. Since we belong to a small subsect of people, we have to create our own world if we want to be extroverts.

Man, this hits the nail on the head.

My family says that I need to get out more and socialize. I find socializing with most people to be boring and unfulfilling as most people just talk about partying, things they hate about their job, or the latest episode of American Idol.

It seems like a lot of people have just given up on their dreams. At least with entrepreneurship, there's still a fire within someone to do big things or to go out and fulfill their dreams.

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

I tested as INTJ for years then I found my tribe, got a divorce, and got a lot more confidence. Now I test as ENTJ. I truly enjoy making people laugh (it’s a jester hat) and being the person who helps my bestie introvert friends be able to relax (because I give no f#cks) but I adore deep conversations. Action is the biggest problem. I’m working on that one now.

Have you guys ever checked out Enneagram? It’s a personality test that describes your weaknesses instead of your strengths. Talk about eerie..

Enneagram Tests (free)

ETA: I also feel like there’s got to be some correlation between how many times you want to edit your own posts and introversion.

 

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[Not Most People]

I think by most people's definition I would tend towards the introvert side, as I definitely value my alone time to think and recharge.

However, I consider myself more of an "ambivert" - meaning a mix of intro/extrovert.

For example, I need my alone time but I also enjoy social interactions and people. I start to go a little crazy if I spend too much time one way or another so it's a fine balancing act.

I would imagine many people don't fit squarely in either side, kinda like an independent voter for lack of better analogy.

My humble opinion is that it can be detrimental to identifying too strongly with either - simply that it can become your identity to where you begin limiting yourself.

For example, say you're more of an introvert so you begin thinking "I'm not good around people so I'll stay away from them."

MJ specifically gives an example of this Unscripted. He explains that even as a natural introvert, it's still important in most fields to get out of that comfort zone and interact with others in order to achieve certain goals

Just my 2 cents (and 1st ever forum post!)

 

[SoftStone]

Definitely an introvert.

But being an introvert doesn't mean not being cool with other people and socializing. We are humans. All of us need that. Some need more, some need less.

For me, I found that I'm immensely productive when sitting at home, turning off the TV and staring at my PC fully focused for a longer period of time to do my work or just think about my next steps/vision.

Some people would hate that. For me it's joy.

The lesson: found out which one you are. Quite frankly, if you are introspecting and thinking about that, chances are you exhibit at least some of the characteristics of an introvert

 

[Tom Mercer]

Yes I agree with Softstone, it is generally misunderstood what an introvert and extrovert is.

Both can socialise really well but where an extrovert will feed off socialising and feel energised, an introvert may need to have some time alone to recover at the end of a day of networking.

I am very much an introvert but you would never guess if we met in public. The upside of being an introvert is I am happy working from home all day just with my music and dog!

 

[Timmy C]

I am an introvert no doubt. I can play the whole outgoing social charming guy well in public but the truth is I hate being around people. It is draining.

I can't wait to get out of almost all social interactions.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

To add to that: perhaps the introvert entrepreneurs are here on the forum whereas the extrovert entrepreneurs are out at business networking groups

Have you been to any business networking groups?

They're typically filled with idiot salespeople trying to suck as much value out of you as they can.

At least here if someone tries to push a crappy product, I can talk trash and then hit ignore. That's a lot harder to do in person.

 

[James Cozens]

Have you been to any business networking groups?

They're typically filled with idiot salespeople trying to suck as much value out of you as they can.

At least here if someone tries to push a crappy product, I can talk trash and then hit ignore. That's a lot harder to do in person.

Oh yes... I wasted 4 months of my life earlier this year going to networking groups almost daily. Never again!

 

[• nikita •]

I am an extreme introvert -- all quizzes give me the same "INTJ" personality type. Though I do like the company of other people, I just prefer to do my own things the way I like them, and I hate compromising.

 

[Ninjakid]

I'm a pretty extroverted person. People who go out with me think it's hilarious because I'll often end up talking to random people and it will be like we've been friends forever. A few weeks ago I talked to a Starbucks barista who I never met before for 10 minutes about mold exposure. I never even think about mold exposure ever.

People tend to open up to me very quickly for some reason.

My ex's sister would always say to me, "you'd be a really attractive guy if you just stopped talking once in a while." Was meant jokingly of course lol. But it's true, sometimes I don't shut up.

I'm usually the loudest person the room, but I never notice until someone tells me. It seems like my voice is just naturally loud.

I don't like being alone for long periods of time. If I have an idea I like bouncing it off other people.

I like things that are tangible. I like to do things rather than think about them. It's like a Shaolin monk said, move in the body not in the mind. I don't like reading. A month ago I counted 75 books I have which I haven't finished, but now the number is probably at 150. I love learning, but I wish I could just download it into my brain. I'm mostly a kinaesthetic learner, I quickly grasp things which include biomechanics.

And speaking of body, mine is always moving, I'm rarely still. It's probably why I'm technically underweight despite the fact that like a zebra (also genetics, when my mom was a model she could eat insane amounts of food and never dieted). I out-eat people who weight twice as much as me. Generally everything in my mind is exposed outward in one way or another.

Buuuuut at the same time, when I'm focused on something I can turn dead quiet. I'm very good at doing things by myself. I generally hate relying on other people. Sometimes this works against me as if I'm doing anything with other people, I'll end up doing everything.

Sometimes I'm quite shy. When I was a child I was really shy and quiet to the point my parents thought I was autistic. Turns out I have Tourettes, which interestingly is comorbid with autism. I get sensory overload sometimes and I need to withdraw from people and activity. Also I carried a lot of mental baggage as my earliest memories are me being told I was different from over kids, and consciously having to suppress my ticks so people don't think something was wrong with me. But I'm learning to let go and unlearn everything my brain was taught.

I can be very up and down. Sometimes I'm absolutely manic, and sometimes I seem really drained. There's been many times when I talked about my depressive tendencies on this forum.

It's interesting though because people usually have an idea that extroverts are social and introverts are shy. Extroversion and introversion is mainly the direction of your perception, not just how other people see you.

 

[ZF Lee]

To add to that: perhaps the introvert entrepreneurs are here on the forum whereas the extrovert entrepreneurs are out at business networking groups

I do both.

I must be Divergent.

Man, this hits the nail on the head.

My family says that I need to get out more and socialize. I find socializing with most people to be boring and unfulfilling as most people just talk about partying, things they hate about their job, or the latest episode of American Idol.

It seems like a lot of people have just given up on their dreams. At least with entrepreneurship, there's still a fire within someone to do big things or to go out and fulfill their dreams.

Same for me.

I am always looking to connect with groups of people with high entry barriers.

By entry barriers, I mean psychological (e.g. most people are too lazy to sacrifice Fridays to meet XXX people) and financial (e.g. pay cash for TFLF Insiders)

You can socialize a lot, but choose your folks. Go to events or groups heavily invested in business or any kind of fine arts or progressive activities. I went to a meetup a few days ago, where the host was discussing on him opening a wine club. So I learned something about wine and sample some unique liquor that made the local stuff taste saddening. I hardly heard much negative SCRIPTED crap there, even though they had quite a lot of newcomers that day.

 

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[JG17]

Neither, just like the majority of people probably. I love to be alone sometimes and I love to be with people too.

I agree with this. I'm probably an extrovert-introvert if one exists. I love time to myself but if I need to get up and present in front of a group of strangers no problem.

-cold/warm emails
-content marketing
-solving people's problems, oh and by the way I do ______

 

[amp0193]

What outreach tactics do you like to use?

Paid advertising, Instagram and partnering with influencers/celebrities, Instagram DMs for b2b deals.

Going to try to build up my dealer network on a 5,000 mile road trip this summer.

 

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[Flybye]

...My tactics? What makes people buy from me, not what fits my personality lmfao.

Right? Isn't that what makes a successful business owner? Tossing every limitation you have out the window and aligning yourself with the emotional and physical/service needs of the customer.

 

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[100k]

Sounds like it's working for you, so not suggesting that you need to change anything... just gonna share.

The best thing I've learned from @LightHouse in the last couple of months is to strive for success is in all areas of your life. If you get to the top of the business world, but you've got no one left around you... is it really a success? Just something to think about.

Yes, for me, business is the primary focus. However, each week I am now setting goals for family, goals for friends, goals for health and personal finance.

To attempt to quantify it, I would say that my relationship with my wife is 3x better than before I started setting these goals 2 months ago. I've made time for a lunch here and there for friends when I normally wouldn't have thought to. I should probably call my mom more... maybe that'll be a goal for next week.

I hear ya.... and agree with you to a degree. I'm hoping to connect with the other go-getters once I'm more comfortable. As for family and such, I'm totally putting starting one or dating until I am able to work part time (with my business system carrying most of the load).

BTW... here's a similar message straight from the horses mouth (or in this case, a Shark's mouth):

 

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[Timmy C]

"I can't wait to get out of almost all social interactions..." - Why is that?

I feel costrophobic in groups, slot of the friends I did have I no longer had anything in common with anyone and pritty negative on life and putting down others.

"I can't wait to get out of almost all social interactions..." - Why is that?

It's not that I don't like people per say, it's just in conversations I feel like I'm in a confined space. And to play the part especially in groups to look extrovert when I'm not drains alot of energy. I like to be alone more often than not. Alone and being lonely are 2 different things I don't feel lonely at all.

 

[Raoul Duke]

I hear ya.... and agree with you to a degree. I'm hoping to connect with the other go-getters once I'm more comfortable.

Bass Ackwards thinking. Borrowing Money to Attend 2018 Fastlane Summit

I thought the same as you. Somewhere resting deeper within me, told me otherwise. I went to the summit. But I had failed on so many levels. I talked to a few people. Really didn't "connect".

You really need to do things that make you uncomfortable. Things you HATE doing. When a opportunity presents itself. Are you going to be ready? or Waiting to be comfortable?

I wake up every morning knowing that I have to run M-F. I absolutely hate running. Makes me uncomfortable. Know what happens after that run?

Over the past month in a half, the effect from running, has transferred over into my business, etc.

The members on this forum help people who are here to move forward. Rather you have had some success or a huge failure.

People who haven't done anything actionable. Get put by the wayside. You are a vampire. We want to avoid the time-suckers.

 

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[The-J]

I'm an introvert (very much so, in fact) but I'm not scared to get on the phone.

I used to be, though. Once the phone became associated with making money (rather than the pain of having to communicate with another human being), I stopped being afraid and started wanting to be on the phone more.

 

[maikooo]

Are you an introvert or extrovert? (If you don't know, make a free test on 16personalities.com to find out)

What are your 3 primary outreach tactics? (e.g. promo strategies - cold calls, ads, content marketing - YouTube vids, podcast, etc. )

I am asking out of personal curiosity and need of squashing my fears (get inspiration)

My answer:

• introvert
• cold & warm emails
  
• Forum/boards answers/threads
• best work & value I can provide - WoM

Thanks

EDIT:
I noticed that many people understand the introvert/extrovert concept mostly in terms of social interaction, but this concept is much more complex.

Source: 16personalities articles

"...While Introversion and Extraversion are often used in lieu of social aptitude, this scale involves more than just being outgoing and social – although social skills form part of it. In a broader way, the Mind scale determines the degree of interaction with the outer world; how socially one behaves is just a part of that. In a sense, this scale is a contrast of the quantity and intensity of an experience and its quality or depth.

People who are considered Extraverts (E) in our model are not as sensitive to outer stimuli and need to seek them out in order to gain a kind of functional equilibrium and to perform well. Introverts (I), on the other hand, are more sensitive and need to escape the same stimuli in order to be more functional. Unlike Extraverts, Introverts can quickly exhaust their mental energy reserves, and they will only tolerate such situations so long before they yearn for solitude and quiet.

Examples:
Introverts are significantly more likely to report being sensitive to noise and bright colors, and they also strongly prefer simplicity and minimalism in their environment (especially if their Introversion is coupled with the Thinking trait). Likewise, they do not seek or require much external stimulation – while communicating with other people is the most obvious example of such stimulation, this concept also extends to things like hobbies, political attitudes and even eating or drinking habits. For instance, Introverts are more likely to dislike coffee and energy drinks.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, Extraverts are more interested in engaging the environment – people and objects around them – and they need feedback as well. They are more energetic and willing to take the lead in many situations, especially social ones, and they enjoy pushing limits and challenging both themselves and those around them. People with Extraverted personality types are also more likely to feel that they can handle any challenges life throws their way. Obviously, whether that turns out to be true or not depends on many other circumstances, but generally speaking, Extraverts tend to be much more proactive in experiencing (and relying on) the world around them..."

 

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[amp0193]

Wow, the poll shows mostly introverts. Would have never guessed that here. Expected to see a 66/33 in favor of extroverts.

Really surprised as well. I figured introverts would take it, but not by a land-slide.

One of 4 extroverts as of this moment.

I could be social all day every day. First to the party, last to leave. Really energizes me.

 

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