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Are you being serious? What a joke. Go to a Reddit group for conspiracy theories if you want to play with numbers and act like you "called it" when 50 people get killed.
Ignore member is our friend. :)
 
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The worst part of the Vegas attack is there's nothing you can do.

I keep putting myself in the shoes of the victims there, watching the videos, there's nothing but helplessness.

The one thing I will say from watching the videos, run. f*ck laying down. Run and find cover.
 

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Bodies aren't even cold yet and scumbag politicians are already making it political, as if some type of law could have changed the outcome. Criminals hell-bent on mass murder don't care about your stupid f*n laws. And automatic weapons are already banned.

The worst part of the Vegas attack is there's nothing you can do.

Situational awareness is probably the only thing that might move probabilities. When the shooting first started, I could see how people might think it was fireworks.
 
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Bodies aren't even cold yet and scumbag politicians are already making it political, as if some type of law could have changed the outcome. Criminals hell-bent on mass murder don't care about your stupid f*n laws. And automatic weapons are already banned.



Situational awareness is probably the only thing that might move probabilities. When the shooting first started, I could see how people might think it was fireworks.

If we had laws against murder, this shit wouldn't happen.
 

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Sorry for what happened in Las Vegas, i heard the news..and @MJ DeMarco, i saw the videos and you clearly see people thinking that it's part of the festival (fireworks) but....I don't even know how an armed man can get into an hotel..even more with this one.
 

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Sorry for what happened in Las Vegas, i heard the news..and @MJ DeMarco, i saw the videos and you clearly see people thinking that it's part of the festival (fireworks) but....I don't even know how an armed man can get into an hotel..even more with this one.

Most weapons fit into a standard suitcase, it's actually fairly easy. Casino floors have decent security but they typically don't mess with guests luggage. It's not like the guy was lugging rifle bags and ammo cans up the elevator. This was very premeditated.

At the end of the day, if someone's going to plan something like this out, you're going to lose. The only way to stop it is through intervention prior to the attack.
 
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Sorry for what happened in Las Vegas, i heard the news..and @MJ DeMarco, i saw the videos and you clearly see people thinking that it's part of the festival (fireworks) but....I don't even know how an armed man can get into an hotel..even more with this one.

He probably just disassembled the firearms, stuck them in a rolling suitcase with the ammo and checked in. The hotel doesn't check your baggage.
 

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stuck them in a rolling suitcase

Any kind of sporting equipment case would work as well, like a golf bag. No one is going think twice about someone rolling in with golf clubs.
 

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What not to do in a active shooter situation. Watch the last 20 seconds.
 

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What not to do in a active shooter situation. Watch the last 20 seconds.

At first I was all like... well that's actually pretty reasonable

Then the last 20 seconds came and the footage was SHOCKING

am I clickbaiting right?
 

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It's tough to hear... did he tell the cop to give him his gun?

All I heard was "get the f*ck away from me."

Yeah. He literally told the cop to give him a gun. And then said, "I can show you my credentials" which means nothing.

He also snapchatted himself running around too.

Regardless of how much of a tool Bilz is, don't get in the way of officers responding to an active shooter event and don't run around with a gun. Because when police show up looking for a shooter and see someone waving a gun around...
 

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Yeah. He literally told the cop to give him a gun. And then said, "I can show you my credentials" which means nothing.

He also snapchatted himself running around too.

Regardless of how much of a tool Bilz is, don't get in the way of officers responding to an active shooter event and don't run around with a gun. Because when police show up looking for a shooter and see someone waving a gun around...

"Show you my credentials"? - Does he have a card that says he's secretly Jason Bourne?

What a jackass.
 

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I keep asking myself over and over again, "why do people do this?" What a terrible thing.

do you think you can do this thing without a mastermind behind you ?

like 80 % of people you will say " of course", the guy was isolated, no conspiracy, no nothing

that's why your civilisation won't survive past this century.

your country will be diluted and destroyed in the new world order as predicted by president Bush


because you are at war with very very smart guy with agendas

and you are totaly Fu**** clueless.


i hate stupidity so i don't know who deserves to win this war. i am neutral here.
 
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GMSI7D said:
do you think you can do this thing without a mastermind behind you ?

like 80 % of people you will say " of course", the guy was isolated, no conspiracy, no nothing

that's why your civilisation won't survive past this century.

your country will be diluted and destroyed in the new world order as predicted by president Bush


because you are at war with very very smart guy with agendas

and you are totaly Fu**** clueless.


i hate stupidity so i don't know who deserves to win this war. i am neutral here.

@GMSI7D

What exactly are you trying to accomplish on this forum? So far, you have only pissed people off. You are bettered suited on reddit.

Would you agree?
 

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@GMSI7D

What exactly are you trying to accomplish on this forum? So far, you have only pissed people off. You are bettered suited on reddit.

Would you agree?
If everyone puts him on ignore, he'll soon be talking to himself.
 

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@GMSI7D

What exactly are you trying to accomplish on this forum? So far, you have only pissed people off. You are bettered suited on reddit.

Would you agree?
How is he pissing people off? Because his opinion is wildly different then yours, mine, and others? I enjoy all opinions even the ones I totally disagree with. You can always just ignore him. I think in his own mind/world he is trying to make us "see" . Lol. It's all good.
 
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Watching some videos from peoples phones closer to the front of the crowd it was amazing how many people were standing after it was obvious it wasnt fireworks or something like that. Either on their phones or so drunk they didnt know where they were. On one hand its really sad you cant go to a concert and be care free and have fun. But you really have to be more aware of your surroundings when its clear gun fire has been going off for minutes.
 

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you can predict the nexts events :

look for odd number and prime number


1, 3, 5, 7 and multiple of seven , 9, 11 and multiple of 11 like 22, 13,15, 23 , 27

you get the idea: you will NEVER see a major event on something like 4 or 12 or 24 . never. remember my words

so when the next major event happens, i demand that people here quote my reply so we can see who is right because i am writing this on may the 23 rd of 2017.

so i can't cheat : all is written here.

i promise you, there will be next events on date with numbers i just told you , this very year

because of rule number 1 of the 36 chinese strategies : hide in the open

wich means ,all is there before your eyes but you can't see because of ignorance

and you won't believe it if told the truth.

so please quote what i said on the next event.


IDK on July 24, 1487 Citizens of Leeuwarden, Netherlands, rebelled against the ban on foreign beer. On the same day in 1132 Battle of Norcera between Ranulf II of Alife and Roger II of Sicily happened. On January 24th, 1848 James W. Marshall discovered a gold nugget at Sutter's Mill in California that led to the entire landscape change of the Western US and also politics in the civil war. On January 12, 2010 160,000 people died in the Haiti earthquake. May 12,2008 87k died in the Sichuan earthquake. Another earthquake in Tabriz killed 50k on November 4,1042. On October 24, 19002 a volcano killed 6k in Guatemala. Something happens nearly everyday on this map: Annual Terrorist Attacks
 

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APAe_q0krMc


quote " maybe this is the calm before the storm "

President Trump. President of the united states of america.


if you don't know what a firework is

then you will soon discover the answer.



yes i am a fool or whatever as you wish


but what matters is the master's agenda , not what you and i think.


i admire Nietzsche's work because masters are above the stupid masses

whether they are " good" or "bad " masters


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IDK on July 24, 1487 Citizens of Leeuwarden, Netherlands, rebelled against the ban on foreign beer. On the same day in 1132 Battle of Norcera between Ranulf II of Alife and Roger II of Sicily happened. On January 24th, 1848 James W. Marshall discovered a gold nugget at Sutter's Mill in California that led to the entire landscape change of the Western US and also politics in the civil war. On January 12, 2010 160,000 people died in the Haiti earthquake. May 12,2008 87k died in the Sichuan earthquake. Another earthquake in Tabriz killed 50k on November 4,1042. On October 24, 19002 a volcano killed 6k in Guatemala. Something happens nearly everyday on this map: Annual Terrorist Attacks

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I was replying to that guy you all blocked. But then his response was so choppy with incomplete sentences and thoughts I gave up. LOL
So since we blocked him and can't see what you were responding to, well you know.
 
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Can we talk strategy without politics or religion?

Given the events in France, Orlando, and elsewhere...

And @Vigilante podcast about the OODA loop....

If you were at a public event and were trapped with no escape what would be some strategies for survival?

I was thinking about the people in the restroom, trapped in a room with no escape. They had to know this guy would be coming. Is there time to organize a counter offensive? He thinks he has total control by fear. You and your peeps in the bathroom have the advantage of numbers and element of surprise.

You have been drinking and now running on full adrenaline, sweating and scared.

Thinking about resources available and the imminent threat, some ideas came to mind.

1) The toilet seats could be removed and used as a weapon

2)the stall doors could be used as a shield or ram

3)Your belts could be tied together to make a trip.

You know where he will enter and you have a good idea about his posture. You know if he enters and controls the room you most likely will not survive.

Any other situational ideas are welcome.

Are there any legal, strategic weapons that one could carry into a bar or concert?

Again, I don't want to devolve into rights, gun control, politics, or religion. Please keep responses to strategy and strategic information.
Most people don't think like this because they have not mastered their flight/fight. Comfy societies make weak men and all that jazz. A lot of men haven't even once been punched in the face since schools banned contact sport at playtime. I have full situational awareness wherever I go. It often amuses, and saddens me, when I say something like "Did you see ____?, wow!" and get met with a blank stare or "err, no?" yet whatever it was, was right in front of us. People don't even notice threats, let alone simulate contingency plans for them.

If you could get enough people to snap out of fright you might be able to organize some resistance but I very much doubt it. I can't give specific examples to answer your question without specific details of the room they were in, but running to a packed space with only one exit would not be my idea of safety in the first place.

Edit, I just bumped a 5 year old thread. Sorry abou that. I misstook the sticky for a latest thread.
 

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