I'm done waiting to be rich, LOL.

[MJ DeMarco]

How many pro athletes hate playing their sport?

Sorry but you're wrong. This is a non-sequitur fallacy and I exposed it in Unscripted . And now you're perpetuating it. I'm not going to explain it again here, but the TLDR is, you've totally ignored the feedback loop in how it plays a role in "motivation" and "passion". Pro athletes don't become pro-athletes by constantly failing in competition. At some point, they connect a feedback loop of wins and victory in the competitive marketplace, which enforces passion and the willingness to train harder.

I came back with this account late 2016 to give it another shot but it was all the same.

Wow, I didn't know the forum was supposed to change your life, not you.

News to me.

I'm no longer waiting to be rich

Bahahahhaha...

OMG are there people that really think like this? Yes there is!

You clearly don't get it.

Yea, you don't belong here.

because it made me think passion was useless when it's the very thing that makes you succeed in most cases.

Then go be passionately mediocre.

Again, clearly you're not willing to do the dirty work. Another millennial failure of expectation that "getting rich" is all fun and games. No trials. No tribulations. All passion and love and Instagram posts of glory.

You'll never realize that the real passion comes from achievement, from doing what you couldn't think you could do, from exceeding your expectations, from self-development and growth.

There are some people on this forum where I say to myself, "Yea, he's never going to make it."

That is you.

And I say that only based on the body of work you've posted here over the years.

I see blame, victimhood, external locus, fixed mindsets, excuses, and overall, a poor mental architecture that does NOT lead to the kind of success we strive for. IMO, you're another casualty to the "do what you love" and "passion" fallacy.

Anyhow,when your beliefs are POOR, the actions that evolve from those beliefs will also be POOR.

For example, this:

I will never again listen to anyone selling a book, course or anything.

What a horrific belief system.

Oh well, as they say about the horse and the water...

forum was a sh*t supplement in the end.

And you're a sh*t wannabee entrepreneur who wants to whistle Dixie while trying to start a business.

And now you're crying like an angry entitled millennial brat who didn't get his juice box complete with a passive income business in 2 weeks.

I started this forum to help people make the entrepreneurial journey, a journey that is TOUGH, riddled with FAILURE, and often times LONELY. It is our water cooler where I've decided to spend a large portion of my time in "semi-retirement" here to guide those guidable -- you are not guideable. And you think I'm going to let as shit-stain like you insult it and my work?

You're done?

No, I'm done.

I will delete/ban your account today so you won't be tempted by a "shit supplement" any longer.

Good luck updating the resume and goodbye.

 

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[RazorCut]

Time is ticking and life is going by, I want to enjoy my life and I'm no longer waiting to be rich before that happens.

I'm leaving, bye.

I think you hit the nail on the head. First off happiness is not something you plan for the future, it is something that you should be experiencing in the now. Postponing it until you are 'rich' is a mistake many make (I have done so myself in my distant past). After all success is a journey not a destination.

Rich is measured in so many ways, putting a monetary price on it will never bring satisfaction. You create a rich life, you don't wait for it. To me contentment is the greatest wealth of all.

I wish you all the best in your search.

 

[Andy Black]

waiting to be rich

Did you mean to write it like that?


I’m not (financially) rich, but I enjoy my life.

I also spend an inordinate amount of time on the forum, mostly writing to helps others. I don’t think it’s a waste of my time.

 

[MidwestLandlord]

I always thought this "helping other people" stuff was a bunch of bullshit.

No one came here to do charity work, let's be honest. I know you gotta give value and stuff but the end goal is always what you can get out of it.

No one would do it if there wasn't any payoff.

I think @loop101 meant that if you enjoyed providing value, then you would also enjoy the process of building a company that produces value...meaning you'd be enjoying your life right now without being rich.

Of course no one builds a business off of charity, that's why there are 2 books and this forum that contain the framework and actionable advice on how to monetize provided value.

As for the forum itself...is it charity to help others? Are we only here for some sort of return?

I help for a return, yeah. That return comes in the joy of helping others through teaching what I know (one of my greatest joys in life), through the camaraderie and support, and through others helping me by teaching me what they know...and my acting on that shared wisdom and experience.

90% of life is mindset, only 10% is skill.

Your mindset needs some serious work.

 

[GoGetter24]

The biggest reason most of it doesn't work is because of following people.

Take DeMarco, for instance. He didn't read books about getting rich using the internet. He just took his own route.

By the time something becomes commonplace enough that you hear "you should try this" on the internet, it's too late. You're now the means of getting someone else rich. You're not Tim Ferris: you're an accounting entry on the way to his next sports car.

The second biggest reason is failing to do things that are hard.

If anyone can do it, it's crap. This is why doctors and lawyers can get paid so much: it's hard to become a skilled doctor or lawyer, which constraints supply, while demand remains high. Concurrently, running a cafe is easy, so you only make basic money.

The chief path to success has never been business by itself, but doing something that's genuinely hard to do, and is also in demand.

Which is why all the mockery of "time for money" is so wank and misplaced: until your time is worth solid money, you've nothing to fall back on but luck.

 

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[loop101]

If you enjoyed the process of helping others, you would not have to wait.

 

[Vigilante]

I've been here two years and have nothing to show for it, I don't blame anyone but myself but hanging around here any longer is a waste of time.

Time is ticking and life is going by, I want to enjoy my life and I'm no longer waiting to be rich before that happens.

I'm leaving, bye.

Bye. Thread moved to landfill where it belongs. Fling yourself up on to the trash heap.

 

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[PizzaOnTheRoof]

The forum isn’t a waste of time, you’re just wasting the time that you’re on it.

 

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[jon.M]

thread reminds me of @AndrewNC's multiple 'Goodbyes'

 

[ZF Lee]

I've been here two years and have nothing to show for it, I don't blame anyone but myself but hanging around here any longer is a waste of time.

Time is ticking and life is going by, I want to enjoy my life and I'm no longer waiting to be rich before that happens.

I'm leaving, bye.

I smell a storm of comments coming.

@Ayanle Farah, you can enjoy life anytime you want.

It just needs to benefit yourself, others and at an effective cost, monetary or emotional.

A simple trip locally, some gifts for your loved ones, can be easily affordable.

If we are talking about more expensive stuff, like a cruise for instance, there are numerous ways to get them at lower prices.

All you need is decent planning. That's it. Your happiness is yours to control.

You are right about one thing though. Fastlane isn't just about locking yourself on front of an online forum. You've got to be going out to do things and meet people offline, likely the others said.

I always thought this "helping other people" stuff was a bunch of bullshit.

No one came here to do charity work, let's be honest. I know you gotta give value and stuff but the end goal is always what you can get out of it.

The iron law of charity, jobs and business is general is that it must fulfill a need, aka helping people. Universal. Not bullshit.

All in all, @Ayanle Farah, don't throw in the towel yet.

Reread TMF and UNSCRIPTED , consider a change in your industry of focus, and take a look at your friends and family around you. Did you feel 'left out' because they look like they are having a better time than you? Peer pressure? A change of environment may be needed.

You are right that you do not need to spend your whole life getting rich. Go earn enough cash/profit to be self-sustainable first, and then rich can come later.Take a short break from this forum for a bit if you need.

I feel that you want to jump the gun, rushing to get rich, which you don't need to. Even if you were to launch a blockbuster product tomorrow, the market needs time to accept it to pay you.

 

[Vigilante]

I don't owe anyone here anything either and this forum was a sh*t supplement in the end.

Thanks and bye.

True, yet no one wants to be in the majority who fail, I actually don't care about being in a group of statistic, I just want to get the things I want, whether I'm "successful" or "1%" doesn't matter to me.

Wish I never read the millionaire fastlane because it made me think passion was useless when it's the very thing that makes you succeed in most cases.

Bye again.

 

[Vigilante]

hes a legendary contributor...???

Ah the system is broken. Hell, they even gave ME one of those badges.

 

[whiz]

Everybody has a little version of this guy deep inside

The more you succeed though, the smaller it becomes and the quieter his voice becomes

It still hurt / gave me a little anxiety to read when he said "i'll never be rich and it is what it is" blah blah

This thread was a pretty brutal read though

He has no ability to think rationally and connect cause and effect

He's not getting that he's not rich because he didn't do anything that would result in him being rich

He couldn't "wait" his way to riches so he wants to chase "happiness" or whatever

Now he'll try to "wait" his way to happiness, before realizing that that takes work too

Better buy a guru course The Well Defined Man for $297

lol

 

[jon.M]

I think you don't want it enough and that's okay. You do you.

I see people on here giving you advice. I think they give that with the assumption you are like them and want the same things as much as they do.

But maybe you're not like them.

 

[100ToOne]

I've been here two years and have nothing to show for it, I don't blame anyone but myself but hanging around here any longer is a waste of time.

Time is ticking and life is going by, I want to enjoy my life and I'm no longer waiting to be rich before that happens.

I'm leaving, bye.

So do you now see why some financially rich people sometimes say they're depressed?

Even though I personally went through exactly what you're going through now, I came to realise that having money should be used as a way to boost the reasons why we are happy not be the reason why we are happy...

I mean whilst you should be doing the stuff that brings you happiness in this life - where it's chilling with your family, meeting your friends, praying to God, working on a hobby or whatever and keep on doing it, but the message is at the same time try to follow a CENTS principles in business if you get the chance...I mean you mentioned that you are going through financial difficulty, well having a job at that moment can at least ease that until you are able to start thinking about business, because usually starting a business doesn't work smoothly side by side whilst you're fighting to pay the bills, even though many make it work, but it makes life super harder for you and people who depend on you.

Becoming rich can take 20 years instead of 5 or 7 years like many of the people that have made it here on the forums, for so many reasons that you can't even list them here, such as having your warehouse burn down with millions worth of products when you're at the top of your game...should that stop you from fighting back and growing it to a bigger warehouse than before? definitely not...but stuff happens whether you like it or not.

You should now realise where are you now, in what situation concerning health, financial, spiritual etc. and ACCEPT IT. When you do that you're not actually putting yourself down, you're just accepting the reality you're in. Then, write down where you are now, accept it, think about ways that you can improve it to have a better life....

So if you are financially broke, accept it, look at the choices and go for it. Do I need a job even if it's a minimum wage job to help me get through the days? Then start searching and asking people to help you find work.

Do you find yourself away from your family and therefore makes you feel lonely? Accept it, then go visit your family and sit around with them and have fun.

Did you miss out on seeing your friends because you're reading "how to become a millionare book" and so you felt bad? accept it, go see them on the next meetup and make another time to read that book.

I just wanted to share what worked with me when I was feeling the way you did and from the time I started doing it, I started feeling much much better. And I hope you do.

It's like you said, it's usually not the Forums, MJ DeMarco, Robert Kiyosaky to blame for pushing us to start thinking in a different way than we used to, it's ourselves. We made a assumption of what they meant and thought that's how we should start living our lives. But it us who made those assumptions.

Anyway I hope your life becomes more happier and you enjoy your life more than you do now.

 

[BlackMagician]

Well, through out the thread, understand that you don't have motivation to do things. You loose your focus. You don't do things consistently. Well mate, the problem is...

LACK OF DISCIPLINE

Try to add discipline in your life. As you try to discipline yourself, you will gain habits which will help you in achieving the state that pulls you in doing things. Consistently.

You might say, i am not even consistent in applying the discipline in your life. I hear you, I am the same.

Last 3years, I did almost everything to earn money. To change my life. To become happy. But as you said @ayanlefarah that you need money sometimes to be happy.

Now after spending loads of time reading books starting from Think and grow rich (i was never in self development before a year ago), rich dad poor dad, The morning miracle etc....

Read online articles on development n all. Because what i felt i am missing is discipline in my life. Not motivation. Not business. Not money.

I stumbled upon 30days of discipline book. i decided than that i will atleast follow the action given in the book. Pushed myself to do.

and after 30days, you won't believe, i gain mental clarity. i was happy just because i disciplined myself to fold my own bed(tip from Tim ferris) and then i implemented Miracle morning actions.

One action led to other and hire i am, with no business(working on), no fastlane(thinking), enough money earn from job and still happy and feel million dollar buck guy.

Its all in discipline mate. Try it. Do it.

 

[whiz]

I'm leaving, bye.

 

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[loop101]

Yeah, I actually think no passion is the reason I haven't been able to get motivated, since yesterday I started asking myself what I'm passionate about in business.

That's the only way it's going to work out for me if it's going to work at all.

I posted about the Hedgehog Concept a while back. It may be a good fit for you.

Collin's "Hedgehog Concept"

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUrdbmNBpyY

There are plenty of similar Venn Diagrams if you google "venn diagram personal goals"

 

[RazorCut]

I don't owe anyone here anything either and this forum was a sh*t supplement in the end.

Thanks and bye.

You said bye yesterday.

So why are you still here? Go.

Go and create a positive life in the Slowlane for yourself. Unsubscribe from any notifications, delete your forum bookmarks and give TMF and Unscripted to charity or someone who will take action.

Coming back here and responding to a thread that has already been placed in landfill by @Vigilante seems pointless to me.

 

[RazorCut]

Hey just wondering if we can PM people on this forum?

You can (but not Vigilante as he is special)

Go to your inbox and message from there. Some people allow messages and some don't depending on their settings. If you want to message the moderators use the 'contact us' link in the footer.

_

 

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[ManlyMansNegator]

Sorry but you're wrong. This is a non-sequitur fallacy and I exposed it in Unscripted . And now you're perpetuating it. I'm not going to explain it again here, but the TLDR is, you've totally ignored the feedback loop in how it plays a role in "motivation" and "passion". Pro athletes don't become pro-athletes by constantly failing in competition. At some point, they connect a feedback loop of wins and victory in the competitive marketplace, which enforces passion and the willingness to train harder.



Wow, I didn't know the forum was supposed to change your life, not you.

News to me.



Bahahahhaha...

OMG are there people that really think like this? Yes there is!

You clearly don't get it.

Yea, you don't belong here.



Then go be passionately mediocre.

Again, clearly you're not willing to do the dirty work. Another millennial failure of expectation that "getting rich" is all fun and games. No trials. No tribulations. All passion and love and Instagram posts of glory.

You'll never realize that the real passion comes from achievement, from doing what you couldn't think you could do, from exceeding your expectations, from self-development and growth.

There are some people on this forum where I say to myself, "Yea, he's never going to make it."

That is you.

And I say that only based on the body of work you've posted here over the years.

I see blame, victimhood, external locus, fixed mindsets, excuses, and overall, a poor mental architecture that does NOT lead to the kind of success we strive for. IMO, you're another casualty to the "do what you love" and "passion" fallacy.

Anyhow,when your beliefs are POOR, the actions that evolve from those beliefs will also be POOR.

For example, this:



What a horrific belief system.

Oh well, as they say about the horse and the water...



And you're a sh*t wannabee entrepreneur who wants to whistle Dixie while trying to start a business.

And now you're crying like an angry entitled millennial brat who didn't get his juice box complete with a passive income business in 2 weeks.

I started this forum to help people make the entrepreneurial journey, a journey that is TOUGH, riddled with FAILURE, and often times LONELY. It is our water cooler where I've decided to spend a large portion of my time in "semi-retirement" here to guide those guidable -- you are not guideable. And you think I'm going to let as sh*t-stain like you insult it and my work?

You're done?

No, I'm done.

I will delete/ban your account today so you won't be tempted by a "sh*t supplement" any longer.

Good luck updating the resume and goodbye.

So brutally honest.

 

[sparechange]

MJ's ferrari or lambo prolly broke down today in the driveway lol

Sick burn

Granted I'd be pretty pissed to if someone insulted my work, I mean for all the lives this book / forum has changed and you have a dumb post like this is mindblowing

 

[ManlyMansNegator]

I've been here two years and have nothing to show for it, I don't blame anyone but myself but hanging around here any longer is a waste of time.

Time is ticking and life is going by, I want to enjoy my life and I'm no longer waiting to be rich before that happens.

I'm leaving, bye.

Why leave?

How are you blaming this forum for the state of your life.

 

[Ayanle Farah]

If you enjoyed the process of helping others, you would not have to wait.

I always thought this "helping other people" stuff was a bunch of bullshit.

No one came here to do charity work, let's be honest. I know you gotta give value and stuff but the end goal is always what you can get out of it.

No one would do it if there wasn't any payoff.

I think you hit the nail on the head. First off happiness is not something you plan for the future, it is something that you should be experiencing in the now. Postponing it until you are 'rich' is a mistake many make (I have done so myself in my distant past). After all success is a journey not a destination.

Rich is measured in so many ways, putting a monetary price on it will never bring satisfaction. You create a rich life, you don't wait for it. To me contentment is the greatest wealth of all.

I wish you all the best in your search.

Thank you, but success to me is a destination. Getting rich is not something I want to spend my whole life doing.

Did you mean to write it like that?


I’m not rich, but I enjoy my life.

I spend an inordinate amount of time on the forum, mostly writing to helps others. I don’t think it’s a waste of my time.

Yes, my life is good by itself but there are alot of things that make it suck alot because I'm not rich, it would be 10 times better if I was rich.

Why leave?

How are you blaming this forum for the state of your life.

I had expectations that weren't met, not blaming anyone but I can never take back those two years and I don't see anything changing so why stay?

 

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[TinyOldLady]

Hi, I can understand you, since I spend too much time here reading threads, that are not really interesting to me.
But in reality it's not the forum that is attracting too much, but it's the work, that is pushing away, since I connect bad feelings to it (fear, disappointment,...). Maybe the same is true for you?
I wish you all the best, but be sure to not replace the forum with something similar, just to escape work and reality.

 

[loop101]

I always thought this "helping other people" stuff was a bunch of bullshit.

No one came here to do charity work, let's be honest. I know you gotta give value and stuff but the end goal is always what you can get out of it.

No one would do it if there wasn't any payoff.

Can you find an activity that meets these 3 criteria?

• You enjoy doing it.
• Other people can benefit from it.
• You can monetize it.

If you can, you can be making money right now, and be having fun. The Fastlane methodology just adds a few more rules, and drops the first one.

 

[ManlyMansNegator]

The forum isn’t a waste of time, you’re just wasting the time that you’re on it.

IMO wasting time on here rather than on facebook or something is much more beneficial.

 

[RazorCut]

Sigh, @Vigilante can you lock off this thread so Ayanle can go in peace? At the moment he keeps turning back up like a bad penny.

 

[ManlyMansNegator]

I'm leaving as soon as there are no more comments. Just making sure to reply to those who quoted me.

See you in 2 years.

 

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[Brad S]

Sorry but you're wrong. This is a non-sequitur fallacy and I exposed it in Unscripted . And now you're perpetuating it. I'm not going to explain it again here, but the TLDR is, you've totally ignored the feedback loop in how it plays a role in "motivation" and "passion". Pro athletes don't become pro-athletes by constantly failing in competition. At some point, they connect a feedback loop of wins and victory in the competitive marketplace, which enforces passion and the willingness to train harder.

I get what you are saying.

Winning and getting positive feedback can make you passionate about something because you're succeeding at it.

I agree failure does not breed passion or liking doing something.

My point is that a lot of times things that people like tend to be things they have natural abilities to be good at.

When you don't like doing something a lot of the time it's because you are just not good at it.

 

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