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I don't see how this can be a scam if the guy is offering a money back guarantee.

Genuine question: What's the benefit for you in spending your precious time teaching guys NLP? Maybe I'm missing something. Why not just focus on building a biz to $200k/mo recurring revenue DeMarco money instead of trading time for money? It just doesn't seem to be a wise leverage of time to be doing one on one trainings like this. Leverage. Leverage. Leverage.

Maybe I'm just a jaded guy. I helped many people walk through their thought process and for sure saw many break through their limiting beliefs, but at the end of the day the majority of them weren't willing to put in the work. Business requires old fashioned grit.
 

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Be clear on something.

If MJ thought that Andrew was a scammer, this marketplace ad would not have been permitted.

That doesn't mean that MJ or the forum or Viperion agree with or endorse NLP.

It just means that Andrew's offer is most likely sincere. Results are only guaranteed by Andrew, not by the forum or management.

Do your own research. Proceed with caution. However, whether you agree with the content or not, Andrew is sincere.

Let the offer stand on it's own merit, and not on the endorsement or lack thereof by newbies, or old school, or what ever.

If you want/need what he is selling, buy it. If you hate it, ask for a refund. He's not going to NOT honor his pledge and remain in good standing here, which he is.
 

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If he gets a good price for his Xbox he may be your most profitable case study yet!
I have to step in @JoeB , I understand being suspicious, but now you're just being a dick. @AndrewNC is a reputable member of this community, if his rep bank is not proof of that, there are many people in here who can vouch for him.

You would be amazed by how much of a wall we build around ourselves. There are tons of crazy successful people who turn to NLP and Psychotherapeuts to unleash their power, or to break those walls we set for ourselves. Usually those high level people are actually self-aware about it, but it takes someone else to see it from outside, break it apart, and put it back together.
 
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I don't see how this can be a scam if the guy is offering a money back guarantee.

Genuine question: What's the benefit for you in spending your precious time teaching guys NLP? Maybe I'm missing something. Why not just focus on building a biz to $200k/mo recurring revenue DeMarco money instead of trading time for money? It just doesn't seem to be a wise leverage of time to be doing one on one trainings like this. Leverage. Leverage. Leverage.

Maybe I'm just a jaded guy. I helped many people walk through their thought process and for sure saw many break through their limiting beliefs, but at the end of the day the majority of them weren't willing to put in the work. Business requires old fashioned grit.
Great question, and I know you've helped people the same way and you know exactly what's going on here.

For your question - the first part is that Devin is the only one I'm actually teaching NLP to (teaching him how to be a practitioner helping others because that is his interest and his purpose, like mine). For the rest, it is not teaching NLP...but using it to make the shift and get them aligned and past their obstacles. Does that make sense?

My benefit:

Selling a product for money isn't fulfilling for me.

Limitless Academy is turning into a training school where I mix practical skills training (like schools do now), personal development (making that instant shift from who a person is to who they want to be), and learning by experience.

The education system as it is lacks the last two, especially the ability to create rapid idenity-level shifts in people like I've learned how to do with NLP.

I have self-study courses, but you and I know which ones are the most motivated to keep working, and those are the ones that rise to the top and I would like to help personally.

My long term goal is being an investor - and using Limitless Academy as the training grounds to train the highest quality innovators in the world

I have big goals and I want to make a positive impact on the world as a whole (clean water products for africa, clean energy, etc.). I have about 50 different ideas I would like to see implemented, and I can't do it all myself.

The solution? Train others into highly skilled and motivated CEOs and push them in the direction of making those changes via the business they start. They could make money selling dog leashes or they could make money doing something world-benefiting, so I would guide them how to have success in the latter (my ultimate goal).

So for this stage of the business - creating that instant change in people so they are motivated and on track to grow themselves is my priority - and I'm doing so by getting "into the ditches" and trading the time for money myself. I am learning more and more every single day to be able to help more people faster, and I do so by being face to face with my market and helping via these calls.

Over time, i'm working the common struggles and change work into my training programs and book, and training others to do the mindset work for me as I grow the business at the strategic level...and eventually reach my goal in the future to serve as an investor...who has a school that trains the most highly skilled and motivated entrepreneurs and innovators to invest in.

Big goals? Yes.
Will I get there? Absolutely.

And by getting 'in the trenches' and performing the role of helping people one-on-one trading time for money right now is how I am monetizing it now while I build out the rest of the infrastructure.




 

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Just wanted to say this here. I was a poor student of NLP. I've listened to tapes and read a couple books. Sometimes it is how you learn things that make it stick. I remember one night at poker I was telling Andrew that I drink too much Coke. We went through a real quick exercise on how to make that can of Coke less appealing. It was probably a 2 minute exercise.

Now, I still drink Coke, but alot less. But I've also learned that it is something that I want. It's not something that I would want to 100% quit on. However, when I do find something that I want to quit. I still remember the technique and it WORKS.

So while his guidance has not made me any money. It has given me a new skill that I can implement to better myself. It's up to you to decide what the value of that is.
 

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Hah I'm definitely interested in this, too bad I spent all my money this weekend importing products from China. Going to sell my Xbox one tonight, If this is still available tomorrow afternoon when I can get to the bank and add funds to my prepaid credit card I will be all over it.



I'm not saying this is a fake review. But I am saying that it looks like one.

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  • Post implies scarcity: "if this is still available tomorrow" -- of course it will be, everyone knows that
  • Visual copy to make prospects imagine buying: "get to the bank and add funds to my prepaid credit card"

 
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Another common theme is not being fulfilled with the work that you are doing.

In NLP, we call this values elicitation. And our values are our deepest unconscious driver. If we act in a way that is not in accordance with our values, we don't feel fulfilled.

So how do we make our unconscious values...conscious? How can we get the information to make the right decision with the business that we start?

"What is important to you in the business that you start."

Write down at least 20 answers, and when your mind runs out of ideas, keep going because that is when the good answers come out. Don't worry about the order at first.

When you have at least 20, ask yourself "If I can only fulfill one of these...which would it be?" That is #1 - cross that off the list and get your top 5 values. Most people are not consciously aware of these, but they are deep unconscoius drivers that will help you along the way.

Final steps: Write down your top 5 values, an then ask yourself for each "How do I know when this need has been fulfilled."

When you do this, you will now consciously notice why you didn't stick with ideas in the past, and you are one step closer to finding your right path...
 
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Looks too good to be true.

My "scam" alarm went on as I read the words "Guaranteed results"

I am probably wrong...
Thanks for bringing this up. I see it's a concern for a lot of people.

Not a scam at all... I 100% am very good at NLP and creating change in people that helps them get to their goals....I am confident in my ability to help...and the only problem I envisioned is "how can I communicate with them how powerful this is".

So two options happen:

  1. I work with someone, they make the change, they reach their business goals and are happy in life.
  2. They ask for a refund at any point.
I am 100% OK with either one of these options. I know the sales copy comes off a certain way - but I only do it to help communicate my confidence in my service.
 

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I'm not one to gush so don't expect me to tell you that working with @AndrewNC has been like all my birthdays rolled into one because it would just sound fake.

I can see why people might be saying it sounds like a scam, but here's the truth. The results you will get from working with him aren't actually anything to do with Andrew, they're all to do with you.

You have all the answers.

The issue that a lot of us have is we throw so much crap on top of those answers that you can't find them.

It's uncovering those answers and helping you piece the jigsaw back together which is what Andrew excels at.

If you invest in this, the reality is you're not investing in him, you're investing in yourself and a better future.
 
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I can see lots of sales pitch, pictures of gift cards and testimonials, but the information I got from them are:

Someone managed to get 3 product tests done and 'found' $3500 (on a credit card?)

Someone made 2 telephone calls

Someone 'feels like' their business will explode 5x, someone else 'feels great', someone 'feels pumped' and someone else 'feels like it can be done a lot sooner'.

Someone received 'an opportunity out of nowhere' to do some landscaping (oh, it was a lead from his old business - can't believe you are actually using that as a testimonial, let alone taking credit for it)

The only results I can actually see are someone did $750 (profit, turnover?) 'within a few weeks' (cancel the lambo) and someone else did $8k - which could either mean he can now afford his trip to Italy or he can now afford a slice of pizza - $8k sounds good but what is that, profit or turnover? - How much did he make the month before you 'helped' him?

Stuff like "I feel like my business is about to grow 5x" and "I feel like my business is about to explode" is shit people say when they don't want to sound negative but don't have any actual results to show.

And of course they are not going to ask for a refund because then they will feel like a loser, have to give up on their dream and admit defeat.

If, after 5 years of doing this, these are your best testimonials and case studies, what exactly are the results?
 

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Just thought I would add my experiences here.

Up until mid- Feb this year, when I reached out to Andrew, I had spent the last 8 months studying, reading and doing more study.

Not a single phone call made nor a single e-mail sent to anyone out there in the 'real' world.

The first month working with Andrew he jump started me out of my study-learn cycle and I entered a market I had less then zero experience. In the first month after a LOT of cold calling and cold e-mails - I had done just under $650 in sales And yes I won't be ordering my Aston Martin off the back of this any time soon, but for someone who had always thought of himself as 'not a salesman' I had actually proved to myself I actually was.

I have had numerous conversations with CEO's and marketing directors - a couple being with companies doing in excess of 100 million in annual revenue. Whilst this may not seem a big deal to some, for someone who has had his head in a book for most of the last year, this is a major breakthrough and real step forward to achieving my goals.

Andrew has helped me realise that my life is changing right now and it's HAPPENING right now. My goal aren't. just a distant blip on the horizon but they are right next to me and all I need to do is keep taking the action to bring them that bit closer.

I have realised that more opportunities are coming my way than I ever thought possible, and whilst before i was exasperated at the perceived lack of possibilities, I literally have trouble deciding what task to do next and who to make contact with in the next half hour.

I'm building a brand and genuinely offering help to other companies and the good will that is being put out there is being returned and business is growing.

Andrew's intentions are genuine and if you are looking to break free of inaction and indecision I'm sure you will also benefit as much as I have from Andrew's NLP teachings and business mentorship.

Please feel free to PM me if anybody wants any further info or has any questions.
 
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I have to admit something....

I just did 2 calls - One with Steven, and one with someone else after it.

The one after it, he had trouble seeing what steps to take into the future. I helped create a general timeline where he is going to networking events, speaking to business owners, growing his network, and hiring employees to fulfill the work, eventually having his business and quitting his job.

But... I had trouble releasing certain limiting beliefs by the way I normally do it...and I don't feel I created that instant change that I've done in the past.

So I made an offer: I could refund him immediately, or I could continue working with him until the end until he gets there.

We decided on the latter option, so I'm reaching out to my NLP mentors, learning new skills to help him get there sooner. He is going to meetup groups to start going in the right direction....

And if I don't see the results in him within a few months, I'll do the refund as I promised.

But my priority is to help him now.

Time to go annoy my NLP mentor in the middle of his meetup group :D
 

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Common themes I noticed:

1. Your unconscious mind cannot process a negative.

Don't think of a pink elephant. You have to think of it before you forget about it. Why is this important?

The first thing to understand is that when you focus on what you don't want - your unconscious brain is trained to automatically bring things into your awareness for what you focus on. "I don't want a job" brings in evidence in your life supporting you having a job.

The solution: Instead of focusing on what you don't want - Focus on what you DO Want.

Pick a specific date in the future, and focus on the specific type of life you want to be living. Where is your busienss at? What are you doing? Make it as detailed and real as possible. People have more success when they set a goal in the future and run towards it, as opposed to running away from what they don't want (they don't know where they are going)

You now ----------------------------------> Specific Goal in future

Everything you do should be in alignment with that goal.
 

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A few days ago Andrew hit me up in Skype and we chatted for a while. Within a few minutes of writing we came to the topic of marketing.

Especially marketing my product to my market, since I'm currently in the process of learning how to market my product.

It took maybe 3 sentences by Andrew to make me realize how stuck I was in my thought patterns. He gave me a pretty big "AHA" effect with just a few words.

While I can't give a feedback on his course he's offering in here, I can definitely tell from my personal experiences that he's great in removing blocks in your mindset, aswell as showing you ways to do specific tasks with your business, that you didn't even think of.
 
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Thanks everyone for the great replies!

The thing I'm learning the most was brought to light at the end of the call with Nick (since he's into personal development and wants to help people too we spoke about it)...Whoever you want to be (fastlaner, successful entrepreneur, motivated, confident) is who you already are.

The problem with modern day personal development.
  • Most people try to become someone else, thinking they have to get something they don't have.
  • The truth is you already have it in you, and we just have to release a few things that are getting in the way from you realizing it.
The analogy I use is as follows: You are this white light at the bottom of a long, dark tunnel. There is a long dark tunnel you have to shine through. Before you reach the surface where you feel in consciously.

At your core, you are already exactly who you want to be, with all the traits you want to already have, with the clarity and insight that you want to have. You already have it in you.

But all too often, we don't feel it at the surface.

When this happens, most people think "I want to be THAT type of person" and think they have to transform and get something they don't have.

But the reason they don't feel it at the surface is because the tunnel is filled up with a bunch of gunk that has built up over the years.

SCRIPTED beliefs and emotions imposed by society, parents, friends, teachers, media. Being picked on as a kid. Past emotional baggage. You name it. Your unconscious mind gets filled up with garbage over the years and you can't see through it.

So what I do is release the garbage and get you exactly where you want to be.

So through the emotional release techniques I post around this forum and use on the call, we clear out the things that are getting in the way of preventing you from realizing and who you already are.

Attached to this post right here is a pre-session workbook to teach you one of the emotional release techniques, and schedule a free consultation.

I noticed a lot of people in the past were skeptical about my way of describing it, and most of the experiences happened after I walked clients through specific techniques, so if you're interested in working together to get you past any limitation in your life, go in the workbook to schedule a free consultation first to try things out.

-Andrew
 

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2. Your beliefs are not real, and can be changed instantly

Everything in your past tend to support the beliefs in your mind, and you don't pay attention to the things that oppose it.

Limiting Beliefs

Using one NLP technique, I re-arrange pictures in your mind to remove limiting beliefs, and instantly install a positive belief.

Think of a belief that you have that gets in the way of that goal you set in #1

"I can't start a $10,000 per month business"
"A girl/guy like that wouldnt be interested in ME!"
"I don't have any value to offer"

I can't teach you how to do this through here, but for the purpose of this post - realize that whatever you believe to be true...is true.

When we spend 10 minutes to remove the limiting belief and install a positive one.....you will begin to experience the results that are in line with your new beliefs.

Yes, your limiting beliefs were re-inforced by the reality you live in, in the past - but after doing this - you get better results.
 

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Writing this right after the call for maximum first impressions.

Just had a 40 minute talk with Andrew.

I've been focusing on web design and development and trying to get over my limiting beliefs of cold calling and selling expensive (by my previous thinking sites), and while I was able to get rid of some of the mental baggage, I still had a ton left.

After Andrew's call I feel more confident, happier, and accepting about who I am and how I will get to where I want to get to.

Dude's like a magician honestly. Helped me get over thinking what bad things my friends might think about me if I charge "too much" for websites, understand who I am and how bad a worst case scenario really is, and showed me a great technique for getting over limiting beliefs and releasing emotions.

One word- AMAZING!!!
 
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Any Fastlaners with testimonials?

And also, do you have any videos of a conference call? It would be cool to see.
For the fastlaners with testimonials...i'm sure a number of them will reply here giving their honest feedback working with me.

I have some feedback showing the quick behavior and perception changes, so I'll post those here.

Don't currently have any videos of doing it - but here is me doing a process through text - by changing his Internal Representation about how long it would take him to have success (from 5-10 years down to 3 months), he will begin to spot opportunities that will allow him to achieve that goal sooner. This is literally from a few days ago, so there is no "after" story...but the first picture I sent about the $3,500 and the 5x business is based on the same internal change on another fastlaner...

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Other fastlaners....right after making the shift.

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He did $19,000 the other month after taking action (this is a friend/fastlaner that I've been helping for a while)


One who struggled with taking action for years...

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Another one...

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more...

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Anyhow - these are just examples of the internal shift side of things, and i'll get the follow ups posted about the actualyl business success they are having :)
 

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  • Post implies scarcity: "if this is still available tomorrow" -- of course it will be, everyone knows that
  • Visual copy to make prospects imagine buying: "get to the bank and add funds to my prepaid credit card"


But hey I am glad you think I am good at writing copy, just registered on upwork and was too scared to even try anything but I guess I can do it after all!
 
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and I am selling my xbox one and most of my other video games because they give me a reason to do nothing.. I'm tired of living day to day just barely having enough to get high and drunk and smoke cigarettes
Hey man - so one of the things that that helped me when I was in a position similar as you...

Our brain brings into our awareness, the things that we focus on, and it can't process a negative.

So when you focus on the things you DON'T want....those things appear more in your awareness and blur the direction of the path that will get you to where you want to be. So what helped me was by refocusing my attention on the things I DO want (like the travel)...and I began finding more and more ways to make it possible.

I am hesitant to have you pay by selling your xBox..... but if you want to have success in business, video games are probably a good thing to not play anymore haha.
 

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Hey man - so one of the things that that helped me when I was in a position similar as you...

Our brain brings into our awareness, the things that we focus on, and it can't process a negative.

So when you focus on the things you DON'T want....those things appear more in your awareness and blur the direction of the path that will get you to where you want to be. So what helped me was by refocusing my attention on the things I DO want (like the travel)...and I began finding more and more ways to make it possible.

I am hesitant to have you pay by selling your xBox..... but if you want to have success in business, video games are probably a good thing to not play anymore haha.

It's already gone my friend, sold it for 310$. I still have a playstation 4 a playstation 3 a ps vita and a 3ds, not to mention the gaming computer I built myself. And I have been doing that! I stopped smoking all my money away, I used to spend 100$ on pot every other day like an idiot, I could have had a dozen different startups by now.


Then 2 weeks ago I started putting my money away, I spent the money on product and I already have buyers lined up. I'm going to make the first 300$ I've ever made in my life. I even started posting ads on Kijiji advertising computer repair and people are actually calling me, I didn't think it would be this easy to make something out of yourself.. my mother used to tell me I was going to be a bum like my father and my grandmother told me it was impossible to make a living with a computer business and I believed them, so for the one year I have been living by myself I've done nothing but get high and play world of warcraft and eve online and other MMOs.


But that all changes starting now and it's all thanks to this forum and everyone here who takes the time out of their day because they truly want to help people. That one post Vigilante made about the nurse standing in the same spot smoking the same cigarette really hit home for me.. reminds me of the time my uncle looked into my eyes and told me I had to go back to highschool because we're a working family and I should be lucky if I make 14$ an hour. He looked like the life had been sucked out of him. I don't want that for myself my mother or the brothers and sisters I have that my father left behind.
 
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If he gets a good price for his Xbox he may be your most profitable case study yet!
Please don't turn a Marketplace thread into a Landfill thread. There's nothing wrong with being skeptical about something, but the passive-aggressive posts are a bit much. Keep in mind that Marketplace threads aren't just thrown up because someone paid for them; they're evaluated, researched, and approved.

If you have concerns about his product, take it up with him or with a mod. Or, hell, pay it no mind at all.
 
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Any Fastlaners with testimonials?

And also, do you have any videos of a conference call? It would be cool to see.
Jason,

I've worked with Andrew to overcome some mental obstacles I was facing at the time. He is 100% the real deal. The price he is asking is nothing compared to our potential after removing limiting beliefs.

We clearly defined my goal, set the end result/point and used some NLP techniques to laser focus my RAS. I do not know how or why it works, but opportunities certainly did appear almost out of nowhere.

As Phones mentioned, we don't know what we don't know. Andrew digs through our thought patterns and beliefs to unveil what is holding us back. Something very small inside our minds may be holding us back and simply requires a mental shift.
 

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I'm not saying this is a fake review. But I am saying that it looks like one.

  • Generic name
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  • Too broke to afford service, but will be selling Xbox One to afford it?
  • Post implies scarcity: "if this is still available tomorrow" -- of course it freaking will be, everyone knows that
  • Visual copy to make prospects imagine buying: "get to the bank and add funds to my prepaid credit card"

Classic picture.
 

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Recap from a previous call I had...leaving out any personal details.

The entrepreneur came in explaining how they fell into "the learning loop" as I call it - reading so many books without taking direct action. Had a mental fog and had no clue what direction to go with his business, so he stood in place for months.

The first thing I did was have him really think about the exact direction he wants to go, the destination.....and pinpoint not only the type of business he wants, but the type of life the business will bring him.

Then I used NLP to elicit his unconscious values (What is important to you when starting a business?). When we understood the top 5 values, we made sure that the business he is chosen is 100% aligned with those. Our Values are our deepest unconscious driver, and if we don't act in alignment with them - then we will feel an incongruence. For example, with I have a value that the work I do should benefit the world as a whole...and despite getting 170,000 readers for my dog magazine...I didn't feel aligned with my values, so I never grew it to what it really could be.

From there, he had about 6 or 8 different ideas of different paths he could start. I allowed him to realize that building a business is like building a sand castle...if you put one bucket of sand in 100 different locations and move on to the next one....you will never build anything up to the level it should be if you picked ONE sand castle and continued to put bucket after bucket of sand on top of it through failures and obstacles.

So by deciding that ONE business is the focus for an extended period of time, stopping learning, and transitioning to real world action, AND realizing that this business will be fulfilling as he works on it, because it fulfills his values.....he went from having a view of "mental fog" in front of him to a clear vision of what steps he needs to take next to start this new business, and set a specific date and specific time to go out work on helping the needs of his market.

So he came in lost and confused - not knowing what to do, and by the time we were done talking - he has that crystal clear vision of what to do next.

Other things I did - removed a few emotional blocks that got in the way of him and his goals, and used and NLP technique to remove a self-limiting belief of "I don't feel qualified to help my market" and he was left with a belief that he does have the ability to really help, because he has the experience in the area he is helping people with.

The greatest thing to learn through all of this - all of the answers that got him in the direction he was going....was created from within him. In my mind, I did nothing. I am simply a tour guide to your unconscious mind to release any mental and emotional blocks that stand between you and your goals, and combine it with a few other more things that allow him to easily notice the opportunities that get him to his goals.

Whether he gets the goal-based results or not is 100% on him and the action he takes, but the results of the crystal clear-clarity, positive beliefs, and the positive mindset that spots opportunities is already there after a 2 hour call.

We are now friends on skype - i offered to continue to be here to help him in mindset and practical business advice...and I'll follow back up in a month and see where he is with his business and if he would like the refund or not.
 

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I am hesitant to have you pay by selling your xBox..... but if you want to have success in business, video games are probably a good thing to not play anymore haha.
If he gets a good price for his Xbox he may be your most profitable case study yet!
 

JoeB

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I have to step in
TBF as soon as I posted that and it went into moderation I reported it and asked for it not to be published.

Not that my opinions have changed, it's just not worth it.
 

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