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I bought a Supercar and got a lot of slowlane lessons...

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On Saturday I bought a Dodge Viper ACR from Kansas, and drove it the 1100 miles home. The trip could have doubled as a collection of vignettes on sidewalk/slowlane/fastlane mindsets; the story MJ told about how the Countach stunned his sleepy ice cream stand was played out again and again in small towns in Kansas, Missouri, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, West Virginia, and Pennsylvania.

-The guy who picked me up from the airport was a wonderfully kind, cheerful, and talkative gentleman. I couldn't help but feel sorry for him though, at 79 years old he described himself as the "low man on the totem pole" at the car dealership. After the printing company he worked for most of his career failed (fortunately leaving him with his pension and some money,) he became "semi retired." He chauffers people to-from the airport to pay the bills. How'd you like to be working at 79? How about working as "the low man on the totem pole?" His reaction to the Viper purchase? "Never in all my life would I have been able to afford an exotic car like that." He was three times my age and had done everything right: Got a pension, worked hard for a company, married, never divorced, went to college (you can find out a lot about a guy from Kansas in an hour).

-At my first stop, some people working at a hand car-wash came up to talk to me about the car. One particularly intent guy in his 20's seemed to be dying to say something, so I asked if he wanted to sit in it. He did, and was going crazy. then he asked me if we could drive two blocks over and buzz his girlfriend's house. I was feeling generous, so I agreed. After we waved to the stunned girl (she was sitting on her front step), I returned him to his work. He sighed, "I'll never be able to get a job that pays the bank to afford something like this."

I told him the truth: "If you want to drive a 3 series or a Lexus, get a better job. If you want to drive a supercar, create a better job."

He looked puzzled and confused, and walked away quickly without asking a follow-up.

-I stopped in Missouri to get dinner, and a crowd formed immediately. Teens leaving the local Wal-Mart took pictures while one of their parents chided, "get a good look, you'll never be able to afford it." Self fulfilling advice from role models.

-At a stop in Illinois, a guy asked me how much I paid for the car. When I told him (it wasn't very much), he just said "I hope you got good financing." and drove away in his early 2000's Cadillac before I could respond. I paid cash.

-The stop in West Virginia for breakfast was the most dramatic. The McDonald's that didn't have any other customers (nothing else was open at 4AM in nowheresville) completely emptied out: The manager, staff, everybody came out to see the car. A guy driving by pulled into the parking lot and was going crazy. When his girlfriend tried to get him to get going, he kept saying "No way baby no way, this is my absolute dream car, my dream car, I'll never be this close again. After this I'm going to have to go back to driving it in video games forever."

The amazing thing is that about two months ago I'd have been saying many of these same things, perhaps more slowlane-y and less sidewalk-y in some instances, but same deal: My job is not good enough, car is too frivolous, I'll never have it, in my dreams, be happy you have a pension, maybe when you're 65, etc.

I'm going to be creating a progress thread in the near future to illustrate how I did it. I've been working so hard on my fastlane plan the last few weeks (I wish I could say that this 31 hour trip was the only time recently I've gone a day without sleeping), that I don't really have time. As it is now, I'm just rambling my excitement, but I want the progress post to be specific, scientific, and methodical so it adds the most value to readers over the long term.

Takeaways:

1. Do authority figures and role models tell you "in your dreams!" when you talk about financial freedom? Are you doing anything to counteract that?

2. Are you betting everything on a life that will make you the "low man on the totem pole" as an octogenarian while the bright eyed kid next to you lives your dreams in his 20's?

3. Do you get excited about the fruit of the Fastlane but then don't have that same excitement when figuring out how to plant the tree to grow it?

4. Is your solution to money problems "I need to find better job" rather than "I need to make a better job?"

5. Are you watching on TV, reading about, or playing a video game representation of your dream life, while the person you're pretending to be is out there really living it?

If so, wake up. There's a better way.
 
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I just woke up an hour ago (30 hours without sleep and 4 Starbucks double shots in one day tuckered me out pretty good), so I only have the ones from the dealer before purchase, but here you go:

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To me, this version of the GTS was always "the" Viper, it's the one I had on my bedroom wall as a teen, and it's the one I really wanted.

Its sad how people see cars like this and think to themselves that "these things are made for other people".

If that thought makes them sad, reading my upcoming progress thread would probably make them catatonic. The saddest part about the people who watch/play video games of their dreams is that their consumption is actually making those dreams a reality for the people in those things (in the video games' cases, it's the creators. $1bn in sales from GTA V anyone?)

Anyway, you don't realize how big the difference between slow-lane and fastlane is until you actually cross the divide. I'm all in now (well, mostly, I still have a brick and mortar job for the insurance and peace of mind (and because I love my slowlane job to death) and about $30,000 lying around in various investments and accounts, but w/e I just started in September), and I couldn't have imagined the insane stuff I'm doing now even back in August.
 
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Pretty sad that people have such limiting beliefs.

I get the reality behind this, but most people I talk to, and even looking at myself, it's not beliefs that limit you, it's failure to execute. I know so many people who believe in themselves 100% all the way to $55,000/yr with partial benefits for four decades.

I'd rather have someone who executes 16 hours a day all while preaching their own incompetence and propensity to fail than someone who thinks they're the next John Rockefeller but can't stop playing GTA V long enough to build a web page.
 

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ΕΝΔΕΚA said:
A Challenger isn't really that cool of a car
...and right back at ya, a used Viper is by no means a Supercar. Now, now. I think you're letting this used Viper go to your head. I know you're excited and all but don't fall into the trap of chasing "status" through a car. What's not that cool about a Challenger? Dodge brought out a cool car that channels the spirit of the old Chargers. You set the bar kind of high with your thread title. When I clicked on it I expected to see a Fastlane exit and a Mclaren (there's a dealership in the western suburbs) or a Porsche Carerra GT or a Koenigsegg or a Zonda, not a used Viper. Even a 2014 Viper SRT is still a sub-$100k car (msrp they set at least, not saying you'll be able to get one at that rate). It's still a cool car, though, I saw a newer blue one near my house the other day and it's still got "presence". But a supercar it ain't and I don't feel it gives a pass to start insulting your fellow guys in the "muscle car club", unless there's some sort of Ford vs Chevy thing going on in the Dodge community I'm not in tune with.

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Like I said to the guy who wisely avoided buying the muscle car, when you're still coming up, stay away from luxury items.
But is this not indeed the case for you? Are you not falling into the "$30k millionaire" trap?

Where the cognitive dissonance is for me is that it seems like you want to use the used Viper as an illustration of a Fastlane success story, and you've definitely taken up the mantle of preaching the Fastlane philosophy from a perceived position of authority (and your liquidity defense thread is good) - but in another thread from last week you mentioned you were still a week away from starting your Fastlane plan and in this thread you say you're still 10 years away from your "freedom date" and that the car purchase has left you with 30k in investments. So are you "there" yet, or is this more an illustration of using smart financial planning to complete a vehicle purchase ala Secret Entourage "How to Drive an Exotic Car and Get Paid" except without the exotic car part? It seems like you are trying to demonstrate results before you've even started.

tl;dr - Don't get me wrong, it is a cool car, but it seems like you might be getting a little ahead of yourself. Insulting other guys with similar cars isn't going to turn a pre-owned Viper into a Koenigsegg. Enjoy it for what it is, a muscle car with tremendous power and track prowess. I'm looking forward to your progress thread to see how you close the loop.
 

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- How does it feel the first time you actually walk into the dealer and buy your first exotic?

It was actually more surreal when I test drove the first one (a non ACR, I didn't buy it; I held out for what I really wanted), because that was more of a whim thing. I was taken away from the floor and wisked to a special part of the dealership, the "garage where they keep the supercars." And I realized that that was what was about to happen, I was at a real dealer, in a room full of real supercars (911Ts, Ferraris, Bentleys) looking for MY NEXT CAR.

When I got this one, I'd scrutinized it so extensively from afar that it was a little less shocking, and carrying a certified check equal to what a lot of Americans make in a year made my hands a bit clammy and tremulous, but after I got it the giddiness was surreal. I was freaking out for hours afterwards as I drove.
 

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When you buy a car like this, remember to grab some dozens of TMFs to spread the love around.
 

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SMH. This thread went south pretty quick.

A Challenger isn't really that cool of a car

Kinda of a dick statement bro. How would you feel if I would have chimed in and said a 15 year old, $35K used Viper is not a supercar... but I didn't. What is one man's cup of tea may not be another's ... to say one's choice in cars (or someone's reward for an accomplishment) "isn't that cool" is better kept to yourself.

congrats on getting rid of that. That car/rim combo is hideous.

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Congratulations. Brings back feelings of getting my first Vette (a childhood dream). Enjoy it and be careful...

Corvettes are wonderful. I got my Corvette:

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right when I finished graduate school. I was on track for the slow lane, but the purchase at that time was pure sidewalk for me. I had the most ballin' car at the $780/mo apartment complex and in the parking lot at TGI Fridays on Saturday night. When that guy started the "Should I Get a Muscle Car" thread on here I wanted to scream "NO! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NO!" That decision set me back very far financially. I was looking at my little pile of money from my first real job and thinking, "what can I buy with this money?" instead of "what can I earn with this money?"

I wish so bad that I'd bought the Corvette now rather than when I did. My earliest memories with it would be a lot less alloyed than they are now. I hope yours didn't harm you financially like mine did, because it really is a great, great car. If only I'd had MJ's book back then.
 

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I think a lot of the reticence comes from fastlaners. Like MJ said, if you're buying a car for pleasure, than it's kind of a toxic asset-you need to wait until it won't do any appreciable harm to your finances. I don't know if I can agree with his "pack of gum" analogy; getting your dream car will always matter more and be a far more visceral experience than a pack of gum, even if the financial investment isn't one that needs to be carefully contemplated, but I get his point. Like I said to the guy who wisely avoided buying the muscle car, when you're still coming up, stay away from luxury items.
 

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Lets see some pics bud!

Its sad how people see cars like this and think to themselves that "these things are made for other people". Why not you?
 

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"It doesn't matter how many times you fail. It doesn't matter how many times you almost get it right. No one is going to know or care about your failures, and neither should you. All you have to do is learn from them and from those around you because all that matters in business is that you get it right once. Then everyone can tell you how lucky you are." - Mark Cuban

Congratulations!
 
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Thank you for the post, it's legendary with the takeaways.

Congrats too...

BTW, wait until you start hearing the "How much gas mileage does this get?" questions ... it will drive you literally insane to the point you won't want to drive it anymore. I think that was the most common question I heard over the years of driving Vipers and Lambos.
 

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Corvettes are wonderful. I got my Corvette:

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right when I finished graduate school. I was on track for the slow lane, but the purchase at that time was pure sidewalk for me. I had the most ballin' car at the $780/mo apartment complex and in the parking lot at TGI Fridays on Saturday night. When that guy started the "Should I Get a Muscle Car" thread on here I wanted to scream "NO! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NO!" That decision set me back very far financially. I was looking at my little pile of money from my first real job and thinking, "what can I buy with this money?" instead of "what can I earn with this money?"

I wish so bad that I'd bought the Corvette now rather than when I did. My earliest memories with it would be a lot less alloyed than they are now. I hope yours didn't harm you financially like mine did, because it really is a great, great car. If only I'd had MJ's book back then.

Awesome thread. AWESOME Viper.

I never bought the muscle car (thank God...)
 
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Its sad how people see cars like this and think to themselves that "these things are made for other people". Why not you?

I know I already responded to this, but I just want to lift up something else from this great, terse response for others.

The biggest shift in my mindset that got me to this point in life was when I examined exactly what Kak just said above: I had listened a million times to the role models and authority figures around me complain about how much CEO's and the 1% made, how much power they wielded, how lucky they were... a million times, but it wasn't until later that I asked the critical question that none of the people who saw, jumped up and down over, and tweeted pics of my car asked the whole way home.

Instead of saying, "they have it so good, how should the law be changed to penalize them?" I asked, "They have it so good, if I become like them, will I have it so good also?"

Two months later I'm driving a car that's making grown men short of breath with excitement.
 

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We sell Vipers in KS? Thought this state was too slowlane to have those I live in Kansas City, but from out west...driven through/been in Topeka many times. Rarely see anything in this neck of the woods.

This is a great tip for bootstrapping. Buy in an area of low/no demand and sell in an area of high demand.

During those 2 months something really crazy must have happened, it's a pretty spectacular change.

I think that most level-headed office drone types like me typically do about one day of honest work in a week. If you work seven days in a week, it's amazing what happens.
 

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Thank you all for your feedback guys. We are not here to discuss what car is better or who's has bigger balls, the point of this thread is to share experiences so others will not make the same mistakes. whether its a Viper, Lambo or a Challenger they can all be purchased used by a side-walker who can finance now and pay it off like a mortgage. Many of my old friends that are in their late 20's living with there parents and have a good job are driving exotic cars not because they can afford it but since they have no responsibilities they don't know what to do with there money so they think buying these liabilities makes you successful. I didn't get rid of the Challenger because somebody didn't like the color, but because I made the choice to delay anything that will get in the way of my Plan to succeed.
 
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I am 20y entrepreneur living in Finland atm. Moving in beginning of January in Malta to set up my headquarters because there I will have unlimited possibilities to grow. Definitely going to launch progress thread or blog here in fastlane.com as well because I must be accountable on spending money to someones who take my head off if I F*ck up. Friends don't do that. They talk you over to alcohol, drugs etc.

I committed myself for weeks for active reading to this forum and all the valuable knowledge I have discovered from this forum I have saved up in google drive. The amount of notes I have written equals at least 2 books. No stories, just clear value knowledge when turned in action will get me/you/us what ever we desire. Next action step: stop active reading on this forum, start re-reading/re-writing the notes. Start mastering the notes. Start using in real life the knowledge you have.

Please... all of you. MJ, Snowbank, zen*******, Healthstatus, JackEdwards, Vigilante... stop posting... give us some time to practice and master the knowledge you share in this forum. You post more value then we can learn. This "joke" is my way of saying I appreciate what you guys are doing here. Thanks. People like you make forums valuable. I don't know your real names or street addresses so I can't come and hug you but I assume this post will make the message clear.

This part of the text truly concerns other entrepreneurs who are in similar situation so make sure you read it if you are 20 ish entrepreneur who's success is starting to show up.

Are you guys aware that the knowledge that is shared in this forum is not enough for you to succeed? Example in this thread they talk about how it is a mistake to buy car that costs a lot compared how wealthy you truly are? You usually know what is right, but you do the wrong thing like buying a car with money that you would have the opportunity to use more profitable way? it is not about saving 200k when not buying car. It is about saving time. 200k saves you a lot of time to build the wealth you need to buy 10x ferraris.

I myself have very strong desire for everything exotic and obviously I am not the only one here.The challenge will be in the discipline. Sure, I can handle myself when living alone and when not surrounded with people that share different beliefs than I do. But usually the circumstances are not like that. Now I am moving to Malta and I know in advance the temptations will be unbelievable big and the push I get from people around me is consistent.

I am aware that there is a lot of other young entrepreneurs facing the same challenges I will face when I move to Malta. Let me tell you little bit about the challenges to make sure we are at the same page:

I will be surrounded by poker players that truly loves spending money. They like to get high and drunk. I got nothing against that, I just don't want to do that myself. I have bigger things I want to do. I spend my free time by collecting experiences. Going out to skydive, go out to flyboarding, go out learn to surf, learn to play quitar, talk some random girls into 3 some sex in some exotic place. Red wine and weed is okay time to time but thats it. I want to be happy and live the reality I builded myself, not drunk and talking, not high and dreaming... I want to be wealthy, healthy and free.

So the challenge is to say no and not to fall into their sales pitch.

It is very hard to say no to people. To live with people that have different beliefs. I understand and I am able to view the world with their eyes too but what I cannot tolerate is that they try to say me what to do and how to live my life. They try to sell me their ideas and beliefs. I don't judge people, I don't hate, I don't laugh at them, I laugh with them, I teach them if I have the expertise to teach them about something, I don't push my beliefs to them etc. Sell your products to people who are looking for you. Not people who have no interest on what you are selling. So, Please, shut the F*ck up if you don't know what you are talking about. Let me start my businesses and fail... Failing, growing and Stepping up thats life. Progress baby. Progress. "It is not about the destination but the journey that takes us there" - dunno

Pushing is rude. So many people choose to push it and that leads eventually losing people. Fun story is that many people have lost my friendship, they don't get respect from me or anything else from me anymore. Not even "hello, how are you doing?" questions... It is hard to say no. That is the challenge. Staying behind your beliefs when facing constant and great sales pitches... They paint the great image in your head how awesome it would be. They move you from emotional state to buying state and soon before you realise you are doing something you in deep down know you don't want and afterwards you are backing it up with some bullshit logic reasonings... They use the same F*cking principle I use in picking up chicks... F*cking retards...

After living almost a year on isolation from "normal" people it is time to get back there and be strong!
The conclusion I have become on overcoming the challenge of other people trying to speak you to do things you don't want to do is. You must have accountability. Somebody who is nasty. Somebody who rips your head off. You need someone who is a**hole enough to come and take from you the accountability price when you lose. You need discipline. Practise and grow your discipline/will power the same way you work out your muscles. Send clear message to others what you want and what you are not going to do. If they do not respect it, F*ck them. Walk away or take your game to the next level and send them very convincing message and make them your bitch. The only people you cannot walk away is your audience. The people you produce to. Anyways, feel free to bring your guns in the table so people who have this challenge can win it.

If you missed the point of this topic here it comes more simpler: Don't spend money, use it to get more speed. This thread was about buying expensive cars and my message is about the real challenge that world offers to us. It is also an opportunity for us to build extremely strong discipline. Mentality: Everything to me and now does not work but that is the mentality people take. Not because they can't handle their discipline, but because they can't handle the progress to gain the right skills.

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One more (craptacular in-the-dark cell pic) from the drive home. It's covered with blue no-mark painter's Duck-Tape to protect from road debris until I got it home, because the dealer in Topeka didn't have a clear bra installer available and none were nearby. Could be a lesson in that about upselling and selling package deals; they'd have gotten another $1,000-$1,500 out of me easily with that service available.
 
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Yes for over 3 years. Hands down, best car I have ever owned.

Good, it'll be the best one I ever own too then. Although my Viper will be tough to top; it has a full Belanger exhaust with high-flow cats and a tune, and it literally spits fire when you lift off at WOT. The cackle anytime you lift in low gear sounds like an endless Metallica bass solo. Driving through a mountain tunnel on the way back was life changing.
 

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It is a lovely car but after only two months in business even if it is going very well, how can you be sure that this car will not end in your liability list?

You can never be totally sure with anything, that's part of what incapacitates most people in a state of mediocrity. Even at a brick and mortar 9-5, you can get laid off or downsized (just happened to my good friend, project manager at huge pharmaceutical firm for 25 years, making tons of money, now has to relocate his whole family 1,200 miles to a new city when his son was halfway through high school.)

This car is a risk I control, and I controlled it by doing my homework. Like I said in my first liquidity defense thread, knowledge is the magic bullet when you're first starting out, and my knowledge of cars is incredibly formidable. Anytime you know something valuable that other people don't know, making money is as simple as figuring out how to leverage the contents of your own brain.

I guess you could charge an access fee to your coming progress thread and pay for the car out of this money with all the people looking forward to reading it

Nah, not after how much this forum has helped me with info. However, I am planning on showing people my project. That's why I'm waiting a bit to tell everyone, I want people to see it and see the value in it and it's not quite ready for launch day yet and I don't want people to see something half-baked, I want people to see and understand the whole deal. I feel like a general in a battle: There was a plan before the fighting started, now do-or-die decisions are being made on the fly without time to pause and think.
 

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"If you want to drive a 3 series or a Lexus, get a better job. If you want to drive a supercar, create a better job."

Wow! Great quote! So interesting to see how a car can challenge so many people's thoughts on money. Why do most people automatically assume they can't have it? Or that they're 'not worthy'?
 

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I doesn't matter if you are driving this -
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Or this -

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It's about what you want from life. Cars may be your thing. A nice house might be your thing. Fine foods and beautiful women (Or for the ladies, Men) Or a secure future for you future generations.
Really the only thing you take with you when you die is your knowledge and a cheap suit(Where is the value when you're dead).

You will be remembered by your actions and not your cars or clothes.
 
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It's been ongoing for INSIDERS for a while now, but the progress thread for the outside that will contain a good portion of the info will be out towards the end of this month, when I announce a big milestone in my progress. Follow me if you want to be kept in the loop; things are moving, and It'll drop on the outside shortly.
 

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I never bought the muscle car (thank God...)

Good. You already did better than me. I hope to see you pass my ingenuity and success. I'm shooting for freedom by 38. You shoot for it by 28 and beat me to it.
 

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Would you have been able to use the funds from the car purchase to instead accelerate your freedom date so its not so far out?

This is a perspicacious question. Very good. That's fastlane thinking.

The answer is "no," but not for any of the reasons you listed. Wait for the progress thread. Everything will become clear. Spoiler alert: This car was free.
 
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