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Ok, maybe not MADE IT, made it.

But, I thought I really thought I had "moved the needle" when in reality, I had only nudged beyond being completely poor.

Let me rewind a bit. I grew up with my grandparents, they both worked at a fancy hotel. They dressed up very nicely everyday and worked HARD. Most of the time, they worked different shifts - so when one was coming home from work, the other was leaving.

They both were up there in age(55+), worked full-time(and overtime), rarely saw each other and were ALWAYS broke. As far as my memory goes back, they've always struggled to keep up with bills and were never in a position to take time off without falling behind.

We lived in a "triplex" home. Neighbors occupied the first floor. I lived on the second floor along with my grandparents and their daughter and their son lived on the third floor. Their kids were in their 20's when I moved in and they lived there during my entire childhood. When I moved out at 18, they were still there.

Needless to say, I always had a motivation that I did NOT want to follow the same path as my family. My grandparents were old and still working tirelessly in the rat race. My aunt and uncle never moved out and always struggled to make and keep money.

No one ever talked to me about money. Ever. I just witnessed poverty and lack of freedom. I witnessed my family scraping by, barely keeping up with bills and never having enough. I rarely even laid my eyes on money/cash in my household.

I left at 18 and joined the U.S. Navy - in search for a better life. I lasted two years in the Slave-y, er. I mean Navy. This was in 2006 and for the next two years, I would make $1,200 per month, working 12+ hours/day and I hated every minute of it. I worked my a$$ off and quickly realized how poorly I was being paid.

After 2 years, I got out the Navy(honorably) and went on a hunt for a job related to my "Navy job", which was just office related stuff. I couldn't find anything and after a couple of months of bumming around and living with people... one day I Google searched, "how to make money online". My incredibly twisted journey began.

I continued being a bum for a full year - living off of unemployment from The Navy and living from place to place, couch to couch. During that year, I was trying ALL kinds of things to make money online. My noobish search of "how to make money online" lead me to a TON of scams and BS. I tried a ton of shit and wasted a lot of money(not really a lot, but it was a lot to me back then) until I finally found something that worked. CPA Marketing!!

I got my start promoting CPA offers. My first success came from simply posting flyers around college campuses. Seeing my first sale come in after a year of struggling and making ZERO seriously hooked me for life. I eventually worked out a deal with a local pizza place and they allowed me to attach my flyers to their pizza boxes! I honestly forget how I convinced them to let me slap a few CPA offers on their pizza boxes but they did! They paid me too! 3 free pizzas per month :)

Ultimately, everything I was doing got me to the point where I was making about $100/day online. I was freaking ecstatic! Here's where things really changed for me...

I eventually released an info-course teaching the CPA methods that had gotten me to $100/day. I released this PDF course and it actually started to sell like crazy! This hooked me to the info-course market and I continued testing CPA strategies and creating courses any time I would experience success, even if it was a small win.

My list began growing as I released a couple of low-ticket courses and before I knew it, I had saved up $10k in cash. WOOOOO!!!!!!!!

I FREAKING MADE IT!!!

Seriously, that's how I felt. I feel kind of embarrassed to admit that I thought that was a lot of money.

I went on and started consistently making around $5k - 6k per month between CPA and promoting offers to my list. This was, by far, the most money I had ever seen in my life. I was paying bills on time and I money leftover. I had $10k saved. "I'm doing waaay better than my family did my entire childhood!!", I remember always thinking to myself.

I literally got comfortable. I went on comfortably averaging $5k/mo in profit and I was GOOD:)bored:). I mean, look at me! I had more money than my friends and more than my grandparents ever had saved up! It was going on FOUR years since I last had a boss. My wife hadn't needed a job in over two years. I knew this would never end... SIKE!

It did end. After a couple years of coasting, the $10k I saved up quickly vanished after I had trouble with CPA for a while, which stopped me from releasing any courses on the subject and only left me with Affiliate marketing to my list as an income stream. This wasn't nearly enough to keep up w/ the "lavish" $5k/mo lifestyle I had gotten used to.

I kept pushing. Because I still had a list, I knew that I had an asset that could bring me back to life if I could provide them value. I eventually found success in the TEESPRING boom. I got into the space and quickly started seeing successful returns. After I secured a handful of successful campaigns under my belt, what did I do? Yep, I wrote a course on selling tees! In fact, I went on to write numerous courses on selling tees and they all did well!

I looked up and before I knew it, I had $20k saved! YESSS!!! I made it!!! Again!!!! (yes, that's how I felt - my scarcity/poverty mindset was very, very strong and I had no idea how broke I still was). In reality, I just continued being small minded. At the same time, I noticed a couple customers of my t-shirt courses going on and making six figures with my teachings! :arghh:

For the next couple of years, my income would go up and down. I never exceeded more than $20k in cash saved and eventually I hit another dryspell. Before I knew it, my $20k was GONE... again.

This time, I started to realize how incredibly stupid I was to ever think $10k or $20k was a lot of money. It wasn't. But my mind at the time thought it was because I NEVER saw ANY money growing up. No one ever talked to me about money growing up. In return, I thought NOT being dirt poor meant I "made it".

I eventually(recently) bounced back from the $20k loss. I spent a long time depressed that I lost it again and feeling like a complete idiot and loser. I have a family - a wife and 3 children, so I knew I had to do something but I felt so defeated. I was able to survive thanks to my list for a few months while I attempted to bounce back from going broke again.

I then got into Offline marketing about a year ago. I realized how much skill I had developed with FB ads over the years promoting CPA and T-shirts so I figured I would take my talents to the small biz world. The potential for a large, RECURRING income really intrigued me.

Fast forward to TODAY. I am building my way back and far beyond. I've spent a large portion of the last year working on my INNER self. My mindset was POOR. I had a lot of scarcity and poverty based beliefs I had to let go of. I got REALLY deep into self-help books and the improvement in my mindset has been the single best thing that has happened to me.

Today, I feel RICHER than I have ever felt before. Today, I know that I once I reach and pass $20k that I will NOT lose it, ever again. I've learned SOOOO much about mindset and finance and after BINGE reading TMF and Unscripted, the fire I have lit under my a$$ is as HOT AS EVER!!!!! My mind is now on abundance. I now KNOW to not celebrate hitting $10k, $20k, even $100k. I spent a number of years celebrating going from being completely POOR to being ... BROKE($20k).

As far as my current financial place? I'm still BROKE. But, I have two businesses right now(w/ fastlane potential) that make decent money. My FB ads agency and a music promotion company. Collectively, I'm back at around $4k - $5k/mo profit. My wife is also working on her business(coaching sufferers of anxiety) and I'm helping with that as well. I'm also driving UBER on the side while building my two businesses. Some days, I can't help but feel like MJ during his night in the snowstorm but I know I'm working toward a monumental dream and Uber, as much as it sucks, helps me fund it.

@MJ DeMarco I personally want to thank you SOOOOO much for releasing TMF and Unscripted. They're by far the best books I've ever read on the subject. They motivated the hell out of me to get off my half-assin' a$$, stop feeling inferior and really go for my dreams. I've been the epitome of an action-faker, thanks for calling me out, you made me realize how much time I've been wasting and how low I've been aiming. Now, I've got a couple million dollar companies to build. :cool:
 

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Wow, such a long post. Sorry :( If anyone reads all of that, wow, thank you lol
 

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Awesome post, welcome!

While I can’t speak to music promotion, you’ll definitely find some people here with tremendous FB ad advice.
 
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Great first post. I can totally relate to that feeling when you hit your first $10k and $20k (and losing it too). Thanks for sharing.
 

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Wow, such a long post. Sorry :( If anyone reads all of that, wow, thank you lol
I read it all. What I took away is that you have no fear of admitting your mistakes and your prior ineffective belief systems. You laid it all out. Thank you for taking the time to share your story.

Keep us posted on the continued growth of your new businesses.

And welcome to the Forum!
 

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Awesome post, welcome!

While I can’t speak to music promotion, you’ll definitely find some people here with tremendous FB ad advice.
Thank you! Actually, I also use FB/IG ads as the traffic source promoting the artists! I'm looking to add Youtube ad promotions to that soon so I can diversify my artists sources of traffic. I currently operate exclusively through Facebook(I know... i know) and I post their video on our fanpage and launch a FB ads campaign to reach their desired viewcount. If you'd like to check it out: www.hiphoprebel.com. I'll be making a post begging for advice on our current set up soon. Right now it's FB promo ad -> Hiphoprebel.com -> They submit video on FB via Message -> We review for quality control -> Accept submission and send rates -> Take payment -> Post artist and launch FB ads campaign.
 
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Great first post. I can totally relate to that feeling when you hit your first $10k and $20k (and losing it too). Thanks for sharing.
Thanks!! Yes, it was an amazing feeling - a taste of freedom. But at the same time, I remember always having a constant underlying fear of losing it. I also remember weird, paranoid feelings like I wasn't supposed to have that much money(just $10k!! lol). I think this poor mindset has seriously screwed me over the past few years.
 
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I read it all. What I took away is that you have no fear of admitting your mistakes and your prior ineffective belief systems. You laid it all out. Thank you for taking the time to share your story.

Keep us posted on the continued growth of your new businesses.

And welcome to the Forum!
I appreciate that! I definitely wear my failures on my sleeve and try to analyze the small details of the cause(thanks navy for teaching me attention to detail) and any lessons attached. I think failure should be talked about more openly because the most lessons come from when the shit hits the fan. I was one that seriously feared and avoided failure and thought failing was a bad thing, again, my mindset was very poor.

Wow, respect and well done on going through all those ups and downs. Wishing you it only goes up up up.
Thanks a ton for the well wishes!! The ups have given me a taste of what freedom will feel like. The downs have taught me a whole lot about life and what NOT to do in the future. The downs are what will keep me from losing everything for the 3rd time.
 

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Rep Transfer @todonelist .... crush it!
 

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You connected a feedback loop and felt success. The feeling is very real.
Yes! It was the feeling of freedom - bills paid with more cash in my hand than I had ever seen. I experienced making money in my sleep for the first time. Overall, it was an amazing feeling but my limited mindset tricked me into thinking it was "a lot" of money because, BOY did I spend like it was no tomorrow #smh #lifelesson

TMF and Unscripted undoubtedly changed me mentally and I am 100% sure it's going to change my life forever. I started taking action on your advice immediately. Thank you sir.
 

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Ok, maybe not MADE IT, made it.

But, I thought I really thought I had "moved the needle" when in reality, I had only nudged beyond being completely poor.

Let me rewind a bit. I grew up with my grandparents, they both worked at a fancy hotel. They dressed up very nicely everyday and worked HARD. Most of the time, they worked different shifts - so when one was coming home from work, the other was leaving.

They both were up there in age(55+), worked full-time(and overtime), rarely saw each other and were ALWAYS broke. As far as my memory goes back, they've always struggled to keep up with bills and were never in a position to take time off without falling behind.

We lived in a "triplex" home. Neighbors occupied the first floor. I lived on the second floor along with my grandparents and their daughter and their son lived on the third floor. Their kids were in their 20's when I moved in and they lived there during my entire childhood. When I moved out at 18, they were still there.

Needless to say, I always had a motivation that I did NOT want to follow the same path as my family. My grandparents were old and still working tirelessly in the rat race. My aunt and uncle never moved out and always struggled to make and keep money.

No one ever talked to me about money. Ever. I just witnessed poverty and lack of freedom. I witnessed my family scraping by, barely keeping up with bills and never having enough. I rarely even laid my eyes on money/cash in my household.

I left at 18 and joined the U.S. Navy - in search for a better life. I lasted two years in the Slave-y, er. I mean Navy. This was in 2006 and for the next two years, I would make $1,200 per month, working 12+ hours/day and I hated every minute of it. I worked my a$$ off and quickly realized how poorly I was being paid.

After 2 years, I got out the Navy(honorably) and went on a hunt for a job related to my "Navy job", which was just office related stuff. I couldn't find anything and after a couple of months of bumming around and living with people... one day I Google searched, "how to make money online". My incredibly twisted journey began.

I continued being a bum for a full year - living off of unemployment from The Navy and living from place to place, couch to couch. During that year, I was trying ALL kinds of things to make money online. My noobish search of "how to make money online" lead me to a TON of scams and BS. I tried a ton of sh*t and wasted a lot of money(not really a lot, but it was a lot to me back then) until I finally found something that worked. CPA Marketing!!

I got my start promoting CPA offers. My first success came from simply posting flyers around college campuses. Seeing my first sale come in after a year of struggling and making ZERO seriously hooked me for life. I eventually worked out a deal with a local pizza place and they allowed me to attach my flyers to their pizza boxes! I honestly forget how I convinced them to let me slap a few CPA offers on their pizza boxes but they did! They paid me too! 3 free pizzas per month :)

Ultimately, everything I was doing got me to the point where I was making about $100/day online. I was freaking ecstatic! Here's where things really changed for me...

I eventually released an info-course teaching the CPA methods that had gotten me to $100/day. I released this PDF course and it actually started to sell like crazy! This hooked me to the info-course market and I continued testing CPA strategies and creating courses any time I would experience success, even if it was a small win.

My list began growing as I released a couple of low-ticket courses and before I knew it, I had saved up $10k in cash. WOOOOO!!!!!!!!

I FREAKING MADE IT!!!

Seriously, that's how I felt. I feel kind of embarrassed to admit that I thought that was a lot of money.

I went on and started consistently making around $5k - 6k per month between CPA and promoting offers to my list. This was, by far, the most money I had ever seen in my life. I was paying bills on time and I money leftover. I had $10k saved. "I'm doing waaay better than my family did my entire childhood!!", I remember always thinking to myself.

I literally got comfortable. I went on comfortably averaging $5k/mo in profit and I was GOOD:)bored:). I mean, look at me! I had more money than my friends and more than my grandparents ever had saved up! It was going on FOUR years since I last had a boss. My wife hadn't needed a job in over two years. I knew this would never end... SIKE!

It did end. After a couple years of coasting, the $10k I saved up quickly vanished after I had trouble with CPA for a while, which stopped me from releasing any courses on the subject and only left me with Affiliate marketing to my list as an income stream. This wasn't nearly enough to keep up w/ the "lavish" $5k/mo lifestyle I had gotten used to.

I kept pushing. Because I still had a list, I knew that I had an asset that could bring me back to life if I could provide them value. I eventually found success in the TEESPRING boom. I got into the space and quickly started seeing successful returns. After I secured a handful of successful campaigns under my belt, what did I do? Yep, I wrote a course on selling tees! In fact, I went on to write numerous courses on selling tees and they all did well!

I looked up and before I knew it, I had $20k saved! YESSS!!! I made it!!! Again!!!! (yes, that's how I felt - my scarcity/poverty mindset was very, very strong and I had no idea how broke I still was). In reality, I just continued being small minded. At the same time, I noticed a couple customers of my t-shirt courses going on and making six figures with my teachings! :arghh:

For the next couple of years, my income would go up and down. I never exceeded more than $20k in cash saved and eventually I hit another dryspell. Before I knew it, my $20k was GONE... again.

This time, I started to realize how incredibly stupid I was to ever think $10k or $20k was a lot of money. It wasn't. But my mind at the time thought it was because I NEVER saw ANY money growing up. No one ever talked to me about money growing up. In return, I thought NOT being dirt poor meant I "made it".

I eventually(recently) bounced back from the $20k loss. I spent a long time depressed that I lost it again and feeling like a complete idiot and loser. I have a family - a wife and 3 children, so I knew I had to do something but I felt so defeated. I was able to survive thanks to my list for a few months while I attempted to bounce back from going broke again.

I then got into Offline marketing about a year ago. I realized how much skill I had developed with FB ads over the years promoting CPA and T-shirts so I figured I would take my talents to the small biz world. The potential for a large, RECURRING income really intrigued me.

Fast forward to TODAY. I am building my way back and far beyond. I've spent a large portion of the last year working on my INNER self. My mindset was POOR. I had a lot of scarcity and poverty based beliefs I had to let go of. I got REALLY deep into self-help books and the improvement in my mindset has been the single best thing that has happened to me.

Today, I feel RICHER than I have ever felt before. Today, I know that I once I reach and pass $20k that I will NOT lose it, ever again. I've learned SOOOO much about mindset and finance and after BINGE reading TMF and Unscripted, the fire I have lit under my a$$ is as HOT AS EVER!!!!! My mind is now on abundance. I now KNOW to not celebrate hitting $10k, $20k, even $100k. I spent a number of years celebrating going from being completely POOR to being ... BROKE($20k).

As far as my current financial place? I'm still BROKE. But, I have two businesses right now(w/ fastlane potential) that make decent money. My FB ads agency and a music promotion company. Collectively, I'm back at around $4k - $5k/mo profit. My wife is also working on her business(coaching sufferers of anxiety) and I'm helping with that as well. I'm also driving UBER on the side while building my two businesses. Some days, I can't help but feel like MJ during his night in the snowstorm but I know I'm working toward a monumental dream and Uber, as much as it sucks, helps me fund it.

@MJ DeMarco I personally want to thank you SOOOOO much for releasing TMF and Unscripted. They're by far the best books I've ever read on the subject. They motivated the hell out of me to get off my half-assin' a$$, stop feeling inferior and really go for my dreams. I've been the epitome of an action-faker, thanks for calling me out, you made me realize how much time I've been wasting and how low I've been aiming. Now, I've got a couple million dollar companies to build. :cool:
It’s really inspiring. Welcome.
 

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