Make a tinder for boxing. I wanna join, find someone to fight, meetup and duke it out. Would be a blast.
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Free registration at the forum removes this block.great, pm me after you get the fund.*Improved* version.
Crowdfund!
This guy will show you how if you're willing to put the effort...With all its features?
I'm interested in getting into this space. There's tons of complaints about Tinder. It's about time for a rival
Based on several projects, and too many decades of software coding projects ... given the basic feature set, and the presumption you are taking about an app distributed for all sorts of devices to millions of users, I would estimate coding costs in the $40-80K range. The trouble is scaling, and all of the web backend to mange users, payments, etc. that must also be added in, and those costs can scale out of hand quick. A public app with lots of use would also require a staff or set of contracted people to keep running and updated. The cost of coding the app is only the beginning.With all its features?
I'm interested in getting into this space. There's tons of complaints about Tinder. It's about time for a rival
A good idea to get users...I see you jumping from idea to idea.
it depends on the features you want. a simple app can be implemented within a week or 2.
EDIT: the app is easy, getting users is the real battle.
The app isn’t the issue. It is about getting people to know how to use the app I think .
I remember airbnb faced the issue of not getting enough Closure for their rental deals. So basically what they do is they help the house owners to take good photos. They literally went to their houses and take good photos.
When the houses get a good marketing, the tenants will come. When the money comes everything is settled. Word of mouth grows.
The economy of cyber dating for young people is that guys want to get girls and most girls think that most guys are craps. You have to solve the puzzle by doing the first step, help guys to do better marketing on the app. Guide them along.
Instead they are still doing the old models of getting the girls there first and sell guys “stupid tools that dont work”. Basically pricy likes and ways to get the girls attention. Guys figure out that results are shit and gave up.
The cat-fishing business (get the girls first then attract the guys to sell them crap lead gen tool) mode doesn’t work.
This is the perfect explanation of how Lean Startup approach works! Thanks for this great piece of information on product development @Mike StoianI'm a developer and an entrepreneur in the software field. I'm a complete noob to running businesses but here's some things that came to my mind reading this thread:
1 - If you app is going to be better than Tinder or others, make sure it is MUCH better. Users won't switch over to a new app unless It's WAY better. It can't be just a little but better.
2 - There may already be other apps out there that do what you have in mind. Do more research.
3 - Since your app's value depends on the customers, when you first release it, it will have zero customers essentially zero value. Nobody wants to join an app that is empty. However there are some ways to get around that. Will explain later but you might wanna do some reading on this for yourself.
4 - In terms of cost, it's almost impossible to estimate. I could build an MVP in a month or so. However the tech needed to host a few hundred concurrent users will likely be completely different than the one needed to host thousands. So it could get really expensive over time. If you plan on hiring devs to do this work for you, you need to pay them.
So here's some steps you could follow :
1 - Figure out if there's a need :
Go on reddit, twitter, facebook or anywhere where people who use dating apps could hang out and ask them what they think and what apps they are using. What they like about them, what they don't. Try to find out what people HATE about current apps. Then based on that, create a sort of idea in your head of how you could fix their problems with your app. Then after you have your ideas all set, go ask them again if such an app exists or if they would like it. Based on information like that, you'll know whether there's customers to be gained or not.
2 - First MVP : ( or apparent MVP )
You don't need the app itself at this stage. You could do some photoshop or powerpoint or short video presenting how your app would work. Emphasize how it solves exactly the problems you got out of step 1. Then wait and see the feedback from people. Again, you can go as ask for honest feedback for regular people on reddit / social media or whatever. Reddit in particular has a lot of subreddits. I bet there's ones for dating, relationsips, LGBT, etc where you can ask.
IMPORTANT NOTE:
- It's always easier to start with a very specific small niche market than a big one. For example, you could start with trans dating. I don't think they can use Tinder or most of the other apps effectively. You could market your product specific for that Niche.
3 - Second MVP:
If things still look good and people want your app, now's time to think about building it and costs. At this point, you could learn to build it yourself if you wanna cheap out or get a freelancer. I still wouldn't recommend investing a lot at this point. Just build something functional that does the main point of your app. ( this could be like 1 - 3k dollars ). In my case, I chose to build it myself. After it's built, send it around to people again. This time specifying that it's in ALPHA and you just want feedback. People hate being sold to. So don't sell the app. Be excited about it but don't be an obvious salesperson.
4 - Great. At this point you may have a few registrations. And some very important feedback on design, on how the app works, on speed and stuff like that. But mostly you're going to hear that there's nobody on there I assume. Nobody to match with. If that's the main issue and not some horrible bug or technical issue, then you're golden. ( do make sure the app works before telling them to test it. If they can't even register then all you're gonna hear is about that and you won't get actual feedback about the value of the app )
5 - If people still want your app at this point, then you've passed most of the issues of early development. If nobody wants your app, try to pivot. See what else you could use this app for. Maybe try asking other people. Or instead of dating , maybe match people with extra legos with people who need more legos or whatever. A major issue entrepreneurs have is they have a vision but are unwilling to change that vision. They start with an app idea and they refuse to realise the idea sucks. If it doesn't work, then it sucks and see what else you can turn it into that might not suck.
TLDR:
Assume that your idea isn't needed / doesn't work. So go out there and ask people if they want it. If yes, proceed with development. If no, ask them why and figure out what they actually want. Then proceed with development. Act like a blind man trying to make his way around a new city. Ask for directions as often as you can.
Going into marketing and making such a business model work is a whole other can of worms.
I recommend reading 'The lean startup' and 'Zero to One' to learn more.
If anyone got stuff to add or correct me on, please do so. I'm still pretty bad at this stuff so please don't take my word for it.
If you make a dating app, the LGBT scene is criminally under utilized. Especially the lesbian community can't have a space of their own with little to no vetting (aka some couple looking for a third.) The ones that do exist are extremely clunky and it's difficult to filter what kind of girl you're looking for.
That's one way to stand out amongst a sea of sameness.
The app isn’t the issue. It is about getting people to know how to use the app I think .The hard part is not about making the app itself.
It's about convincing people to download and sign up for the app, and upload photos of themselves on there.
With apps like these that requires a community (Uber, Lfyt as well), there's always that chicken-egg issue : if people realize there's only a few profiles there, they will leave, and you'll never get that traction.....
I think you need at least 9 figure funding to pull this kind of thing off to get traction and mass adoption.
With all its features, Tinder costs about $50,000 - $150,000. The cost of the dating app depends on the functions and experience of the development team. If you're still in doubt about what features you need for a successful dating app, I suggest you explore related articles for a better understanding. For example, this article How Much Does It Cost to Make a Dating App? not only consists of basic information but also provides a convenient calculator to determine the approximate price of your project.With all its features?
I'm interested in getting into this space. There's tons of complaints about Tinder. It's about time for a rival
depends on your marketing and advertising budget and the number of users.So how much to raise? I mean.. I need to safely account for unexpected expenses... and all the expenses you mentioned.
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