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Damien, I bought your book "Conquering Fiverr" today. I will implement it soon and update here as well as in my financial independence journal.
 

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I wonder how fast a salesman could make $11,032.

Faster than two months, I bet.

Not sure how scientifically repeatable the "process" laid out in this thread is.

Why the fascination with such short time spans of moneymaking?

Who cares about making a certain amount of money every week, or every month?

Focus on the big picture, people. Jeeze.
 

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@axiom

I wonder how fast a salesman could make $11,032.

Faster than two months, I bet.

Not sure how scientifically repeatable the "process" laid out in this thread is.

Why the fascination with such short time spans of moneymaking?

Who cares about making a certain amount of money every week, or every month?

Focus on the big picture, people. Jeeze.
Yeah. Could make x times that on one deal.
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@axiom

I wonder how fast a salesman could make $11,032.

Faster than two months, I bet.

Not sure how scientifically repeatable the "process" laid out in this thread is.

Why the fascination with such short time spans of moneymaking?

Who cares about making a certain amount of money every week, or every month?

Focus on the big picture, people. Jeeze.
Just another version of the slowlane mentality in a way. "I'll put in x amount of work, so that I can get x amount of dollars, so that I can then play x hours of golf."

The focus is always on the dollars, when it should be on the work -- which is the most fulfilling part of it all.
 

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  1. Make my business website. I am doing graphic and website design and I am pretty good at it (Made my own websites and logo for over a year). Start pushing orders there.What else can i do?
Tell me what you think.
Ouch, always a pain when the service you rely on shuts you down for no apparent reason. But it's a good lesson to learn early - you can't base your income on third party services. It's no different from people who had all their assets in the housing market in 2008 - it's something that can't be controlled and if something goes wrong you're screwed. So definitely make your own website. Have complete control over your services. And remember that this kind of work is a means to an end - you won't get rich from web design or similar services. Stay in until you've made enough money to pursue a more Fastlane opportunity, such as creating a firm of web designers who work for you.
 

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Man I thoroughly enjoyed reading both the post and the whole thread.

Found it through souvlaki-fitness recent post. You were the one out of the 3 mentioned that I had never heard of and I have to say I am beyond impressed and inspired by your success!

I am recently jobless and very happy about it. Once I get started I'd love to get to talk to you about business. Till the keep on rocking!

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Man I thoroughly enjoyed reading both the post and the whole thread.

Found it through souvlaki-fitness recent post. You were the one out of the 3 mentioned that I had never heard of and I have to say I am beyond impressed and inspired by your success!

I am recently jobless and very happy about it. Once I get started I'd love to get to talk to you about business. Till the keep on rocking!

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Welcome to the forum. Stop by the new member area and do an intro.
 

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Welcome to the forum. Stop by the new member area and do an intro.
I was under the impression I had done that when I first signed up... Will do when I'm back home on Monday.

Thanks for the reminder!!

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You said you made 1600 USD for the first month. And then you said, it took 5 months to make "a penny" online.

When did you reach 1600 USD/month exactly? 1st month? 6th month?
 

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It was longer than the forum's limit and I had to break it down into 2 parts. I hope that's not a problem.

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THE Tragic Mistake I Made That Almost Ruined The Whole Thing (And How To Avoid It)

As with any business you start, you will make mistakes.

You can't avoid making mistakes. You aren't the God. You don't know everything and can't predict everything.

However, what matters is 1) to get back on track as soon as possible and 2) to predict what could possibly happen before it does.

Learn from my mistake, and don't do what I did.

What was my mistake?

I became incredibly complacent.

As soon as I had my first guy working for me, I thought I had succeeded. The first 3-4 days, I didn’t work at all.

After all, I had the freedom to do anything I wanted. Someone else would do the hard work and money would keep coming in, right?

Well, after 20-25 days, that someone told me that he couldn't handle the volume of orders I was sending to him. He told me he could only do HALF of what he was doing before.

I was left flabbergasted.

I had to go back to work and help him with the orders for a couple of days. It only took me 2-3 hours of my time, which wasn't so much.

But, it slowed me down. I had other things to take care of. My schedule was suddenly messed up.

I lost myself in the freedom I have won, thinking that everything would work automatically from now on. That I would just watch the money coming in.

And I couldn't be more wrong.

I paid the price by missing a very important deal I was working on.

These 2-3 hours for a couple of days cost me a lot of money I could have earned if everything has gone as I have planned.

I forgot one of the most important laws of nature. That things change fast.

Things were changing and I remained static.

Never, ever remain static. You will have to pay for it sooner or later.

Never become complacent with your success. You should always be hustling for more.

So, what should I have done to avoid this disaster?

I had no other choice than finishing the remaining orders for my Fiverr customers.

If I cancelled them, I wouldn't only lose money, but this action would hurt my reputation.

What should I have done?

I should have found a back-up guy from the beginning.

I should have thought that something might happen to my one and only worker.

He could get terribly sick. He could have a car accident. Whatever, it doesn't matter.

If for any reason he couldn't work, what would I be left with?

Angry customers on Fiverr, asking for refunds, posting negative reviews and losing their trust on my service.

But I was too busy enjoying the extra free time I have earned, that I forgot to think rationally.

Key Takeaway: You should always be prepared for shit to happen. Things change fast. If you don't predict the changes, you will pay for it.

And all this brings us to the next, super important lesson.

The Only 1 Rule You Need To Follow To Eliminate 90% Of Your Trouble In Business

It's funny.

A couple of weeks before all this happened, Victor Pride recommended me to read a book called "Ruthless Management" by Dan. S. Kennedy.

I picked the book immediately (I always act on the advice I am given from successful people) and started reading it.



One thing that really stuck in my mind was a rule Kennedy says you MUST follow in business and life.

The rule was:

One is the worst number. Never have just one. Always have two of something.

Here is exactly what he says:

The worst number in business is one. One of just about anything is a bad thing.

In my little home office, where I work under deadline pressure as an advertising copywriter, I do not have one Mac. I have three.

Why?

So when Mac #1 freezes up, crashes, or requires an exorcism, I can move what I'm working on and urgently need to print out before the day's FedEx deadline to Mac #2.

And in case Mac #2 has indigestion or PMS or leprosy that day, I have Mac keep them in different rooms to prevent contagion. My Mac is my employee.

If Mac were a living, breathing human employee who, say, printed what I wrote in booklets on a printing press, I'd want at least two of those Macs and two printing presses. NEVER one.

Do you see his point?

The funny thing is I read that. I had that in my mind. Yet, I finally experienced what he said, first-hand.

Now I can personally vouch with pride that his advice was more than correct!

However, it would be 10x better if I couldn't vouch for it. It would be 10x better if I have simply followed it.

Fortunately, I have learned from my mistake.

Here is how I fixed it and started following "The rule of one":

For each service I sell, I now have two guys working on it.

Some of them work on multiple services. It doesn't matter. What matters to me is to have two people who can do the same job.

However, I put in some extra effort and did more than that to ensure the prosperity of my business.

I took just 10 minutes to write and post an ad on a site like Craigslist.

Immediately after the add was published, I received dozens of messages from applicants interested in the positions I was offering.


(FYI, the word «ΒΙΟΓΡΑΦΙΚΟ» means “Biography” and is the Greek translation of CV.)

I even had to shut down the ad in less than 24 hours because I was getting too many applications!

Afterwards, I took 3 more minutes to thank everyone for applying. I told them that I will check out their CV and will contact them anytime in the future that the position is open.

(I only picked one of them - I didn't need more)

What happened now?

I have two guys responsible for each of my services. If one of them leaves or can't work for a day, I will have another one to handle the whole work.

Also, if one of them leaves permanently, I have 3 dozen of CV's in my inbox.

I can contact some of these people and quickly find a replacement.

One final safety measure that I have taken is that I ask my employees to sign an agreement. If they want to leave, they should notify me 2 weeks before the day they stop working.

No complacency any more.

Everything in your life changes. If you don't adjust yourself and try to foresee things before they happen - you are screwed.

Key Takeaways: The worst number in business and life is one. Never remain static. Always be hustling for more.

How To Deal With Your Employes Even If They Are Much Older Than You:

One of my employees is 42.

That man could be my father. He has a wife, a family and kids close to my age.

In common terms, I am his "boss". I give him the work and pay him at the end of each month.

I have to admit that when I started conducting interviews to find my employees, I felt intimidated talking to people older than me.

It was like I was interviewing my father or something like that. It felt uncomfortable.

Also, I felt intimidated when I started to deal with accountants and lawyers. (If you are a young entrepreneur, you will probably experience this.)

What I found out is that it's all in your mind. It's just your perception of life. And if you want, you can change it.

If you are in your 20’s and feel the same way I did, then what I will tell you is going to help you a lot.

It's all about your self-image.

We have been conditioned to believe that success is something that depends solely on your age or experience in life.

For instance, let's take the job of the waiter. Mark could say that he has 10 years of experience and he should be paid more than John who has only 2.

However, John gets more work done, hustles more and serves the customers better than Mark.

Why should Mark be paid more for doing less?

No logical reason.

Anyway, John feels intimidated in front of Mark.

He gets paid less even if he does more. When he is around Mark, he feels intimidated, angry or whatever because he is being treated “unfairly.”

Here is what I want to say:

Sometimes, young guys think they are of less value just because they are younger.

That's not always true.

In the same way - when I started meeting lawyers and accountants who were 10-20 years older than me - I felt like I was of less value.

There are four things that helped me deal with that.

1. Power Posing

Your body language affects the way you feel about yourself.

In essence, taking specific poses called "power poses" can affect your brain's state and push your body to produce testosterone while also lowering cortisol (the stress hormone).

I could talk about this for hours, but to save you time I will only ask you to Amy Cuddy's Ted Talk.

Amy Cuddy, a social psychologist, has worked many years on that and this 20 minute Ted Talk will get you through the basics.

2. Building Your Physique

In a world where most people neglect their physical appearance, taking care of your body is one of the best things you could do to improve your self-image.

It instantly boosts your confidence, self-esteem and makes you feel more self-assured.



Believe me, the guy on the right has more confidence than the guy on the left ever had.

3. Dressing Sharp

I used to dress like shit in the past.

I gradually started to improve it, but only fully understood the importance of dressing sharp when I heard about the Halo Effect.

The way you dress hugely affects how people behave around you. This is called the Halo Effect. You can’t go to a high-end lawyer and be dressed in athletic pants and trainers.

I like to do 3 things to improve my style.

1. I go to Instagram and search for the tag [HASHTAG]#menstyle[/HASHTAG] or [HASHTAG]#style[/HASHTAG] or something like that. I get ideas on how men dress to impress.

2. I try to dress simple. The casual style will never disappoint you, especially if you have a great physique.

Take care of your appearance and dress as sharp as possible every day. It can make a huge difference in the way you feel.

4. Self-Talk

This tip is a little “cocky”. But it worked for me and it might as well work for you.

Feeling intimidated when working with people who have 2x your age is a self-imposed struggle.

You create it by the way you think. The 3 tips above can really help you change your self-image.

But even if you have the most incredible body, the most outstanding style and trick your brain with power poses - you could still fill intimidated in front of many people.

(Just imagine being in a room alone with someone like Donald Trump)

Even with guys like him, he could still control your thoughts and say: "FU, I am better than you".

I don't mean that you should disrespect the other party, tell him FU or start arguing about who is better.

Obviously, that’s not the point.

I mean that you should think yourself as “ Superior" - even if you are not yet or will never be.

No matter who you have to deal with.

If you are much younger, think about what you have done, that the other party hasn't done at your age.

Think about it multiple times. Think of at least one thing that makes you superior.

It doesn't matter if you are better at only this one thing and the other guy is better at 12 other things. You want to focus only on the one that you dwarf the other guy.

(If you can't think of anything, then you must probably work more to accomplish more.)

Again, don't tell them that you are better. Don't disrespect their power or authority. Don't argue.

All you want to do, is to manipulate your thoughts and convince yourself that you are not inferior just because you are younger.

In reality, you are not. Your brain is stupid though, and has been conditioned to think in another way.

Manipulate your brain. You are free to believe whatever you want.

Deal with others like you would deal with your little brother or best friend. You won’t feel intimidated by the age difference again.

Final Words: “Could This System Work For My Business?”

This question should be wandering in your mind from the moment you started reading, right?

So, it's time to answer it, because nothing of these matters if you don't apply it to your unique situation.

I believe that any of the above can be applied to almost any business.

Of course, there are businesses in which you can't outsource all the work you have to do.

You can't outsource everything, but there are things you can outsource.

If you want to make more money and have more free time, outsourcing is a must-use strategy.

As I said in the beginning, it's impossible to do everything on your own.

As Robert Greene says in the 48 Laws Of Power: "Put others to do the work, but take the credit".

You should think of ways to outsource as many tasks as possible in order to free yourself time. That's the point of having a business.

Freedom.

If you can't detach yourself from your business, then you don't have a business.

You have a J-O-B.

Your business should be able to operate and bring in money without putting your personal time into the financial equation.

Also, you should be able to scale your business to increase your profits. Outsourcing helps with that too.

If I worked on my own on Fiverr, I could only deal with X customers a day.

If I have 10 employees, then I can deal with 10X customers = MORE MONEY!

Note: To understand the concepts of Time and Scale I would recommend reading the classic business book The Millionaire Fastlane.

Conclusion

Stop being afraid of outsourcing. I see many businessmen not moving forward because they are driven by that fear. They get trapped in their work schedule.

They end up working 14 hours a day and eventually lose their fire, give up or become miserable.

Outsource. Start from the things you don’t like much, so you can spend more of your time on the things that matter.

Lastly, remember to not have only one of something as one is the worst number.

Don’t become complacent after your first small success. Keep hustling!!!

And spend some time to design a system that will help you get the MOST value out of the time you invest.

Talk Soon,

Damian Pros
I looked at dareandconquer.com. You should probably not have a sign up form just to get access to content. Made me leave right away.
 

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I looked at dareandconquer.com. You should probably not have a sign up form just to get access to content. Made me leave right away.
A lot of sites do this, It's great for conversions and getting emails.If you're a website that does what dareandconquer does, you should have a sign up pop up or you'd be missing out on a lot.
 

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A lot of sites do this, It's great for conversions and getting emails.If you're a website that does what dareandconquer does, you should have a sign up pop up or you'd be missing out on a lot.
m not really sure what they do. I never went in..
 
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You said you made 1600 USD for the first month. And then you said, it took 5 months to make "a penny" online.

When did you reach 1600 USD/month exactly? 1st month? 6th month?
Yes, it took me about 5-6 months to make a penny online. After that, when Fiverr started to work out for me, I made around $1600 in my first month there.
 
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I looked at dareandconquer.com. You should probably not have a sign up form just to get access to content. Made me leave right away.
If you had tried to access the site again, you would not be re-directed to the sign up page. That only shows up to 1st time visitors.

I don't care about getting tens of millions of readers. I care about getting a handful of loyal ones who will actually be benefited from the site and follow the advice laid out there, if they find it valuable.

Whoever wants to read the site, will find a way to read it.
 
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Damian. Its good that you replied right now.
I made $168 in Fiverr in past 1 week. It was amazing, two orders are to be delivered tomorrow which will make the money.

And then this happened - MY ACCOUNT GOT SUSPENDED.

This happened an hour earlier. I emailed and inquired with them. My email was -


and this is what I got as response -


What do you think of the reply? That is the worst customer support reply I have ever seen. They did not even mention what happened.
What i suspect is that my customer (Who is a 50 year old lady definitely not savvy) sent me a Mailchimp form code which contained some html, php code .etc though the messages today morning. That could have invoked a hack warning, maybe.

Or maybe its something else. I dunno, how will i learn from my mistakes if they dont tell what mistake i made?

But i think its all learning experience. If i have an ip ban maybe i cannot make a new account.
My action plan is -
  1. Complete the two pending jobs and deliver it without Fiverr. I know their emails because I have access to their website. Get paid via PayPal (Fiverr wont get their cut also). I hope they complies.
  2. Make my business website. I am doing graphic and website design and I am pretty good at it (Made my own websites and logo for over a year). Start pushing orders there.
  3. Get a new Fiver account and start from scratch again. I know how to get 10 orders well now, I have the process.
What else can i do?
Tell me what you think.
No idea what went wrong with you and they had to ban you. I agree that their support can be disappointing sometimes though.

Note that contacting customers outside of Fiverr or having their contact information such as e-mail etc is a violation of Fiverr's TOS.

You could simply make a new account from a new IP.
 
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Finally, internalize the following: people don't give a shit about you. Don't go saying "get my account back. that's all i can say". LOL. You are one dude in the millions. You are replaceable.

Cheers ;)
Correct observation.
 
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hey nas,

I'm from Germany. As long as Germany is also EU, do you know if it's possible for germans in bulgaria as well?

Thanks in advance! And great advice of you! Thank you :)

Kai
It does not matter if Germany is in EU.

If you want to open a company in Bulgaria and live in Germany, you will still be considered a German resident and therefore pay taxes in German.

Otherwise, anyone would open a company in a zero tax jurisdiction like Cayman and nobody would ever pay taxes.

What matters is Residency and Permanent Establishment. If you are not aware of these terms and how they relate to international taxation, all you have to do is search papa Google.

Good luck!
 
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I wonder how fast a salesman could make $11,032.

Faster than two months, I bet.

Not sure how scientifically repeatable the "process" laid out in this thread is.

Why the fascination with such short time spans of moneymaking?

Who cares about making a certain amount of money every week, or every month?

Focus on the big picture, people. Jeeze.
Jordan Belfort claimed he could make $50.000 in an evening when he sold mortgage services door to door. In sales, you could make that amount faster and easier - but there is a hell lot of work before you get to the point that you can do that.

I am not sure how scientifically repeatable the process is as well. I am not a scientist and this story is obviously based on anecdotal evidence.

It's not about repeating the process I followed. It's about going out and kicking asses.

Lastly, it's hard to focus on the big picture if you don't first focus on the small picture.

Step by step you get ahead, but not necessarily in fast spurts. (Charlie Munger).
 
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Ouch, always a pain when the service you rely on shuts you down for no apparent reason. But it's a good lesson to learn early - you can't base your income on third party services. It's no different from people who had all their assets in the housing market in 2008 - it's something that can't be controlled and if something goes wrong you're screwed. So definitely make your own website. Have complete control over your services. And remember that this kind of work is a means to an end - you won't get rich from web design or similar services. Stay in until you've made enough money to pursue a more Fastlane opportunity, such as creating a firm of web designers who work for you.
Commandment of Control.

A Fiverr business, as I like to call it, obviously violates that commandment. Yet, it's a great place to learn about business without ANY risk.

That's a huge benefit. Not to mention that you are actually getting paid to improve your skills and learn vital business skills such as selling, building rapport, pitching ideas, presenting your offer and business, dealing with complaints, marketing or managing employees (if you reach to that point).

Fiverr pays you to learn how to run a business without you having to risk anything.
 

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It was longer than the forum's limit and I had to break it down into 2 parts. I hope that's not a problem.

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THE Tragic Mistake I Made That Almost Ruined The Whole Thing (And How To Avoid It)

As with any business you start, you will make mistakes.
Let me guess before I read anymore... you sell books on how to build your business online?
 
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Let me guess before I read anymore... you sell books on how to build your business online?
Let me guess, you 9-5er working for $10 an hour or broke student living with parents at 25?
 

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Let me guess, you 9-5er working for $10 an hour or broke student living with parents at 25?
Your post read like an advertisement for something and I was correct. Seems like more people sell books on how to make money online than actually do it. Funny how you got offended.

And no, I'm 30 living in Poland with my girlfriend and I'm worth 520,000 USD. You?
 
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And no, I'm 30 living in Poland with my girlfriend and I'm worth 520,000 USD. You?
Sounds like you have figured it out. Well done.
 
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Hey OP, first of all, thanks for sharing your learnings.

Are you still active on Fiverr? If yes, how's it going?

I'd be interested in reading an update on this thread.

For the ones contemplating Fiverr as an option to start - I did too but moved away just a few weeks later, despite being successful.

I explain why in my progress thread here.
 

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