• The Entrepreneur Forum | Startups | Entrepreneurship | Starting a Business | Motivation | Success
  1. Join 50,000+ entrepreneurs
    who are kicking butt and
    winning their dream life.

    Unscripted™ Entrepreneurship:
    A Business That Pays More Than Money, It Pays Time.

    "Fastlane" is an entrepreneur discussion forum based on The Unscripted Entrepreneurial Framework (TUNEF) outlined in the two best-selling books by MJ DeMarco (The Millionaire Fastlane and UNSCRIPTED™). From multimillionaires to digital nomads, the forum features real entrepreneurs creating real businesses.

    Download (Unscripted) Download (Millionaire Fastlane)  Register
    Registering for the forum removes this block!

How Do I Outsource SEO?

Discussion in 'People Mgmt: Customers, Employees, Investors' started by bumble_bee, May 5, 2019.

  1. bumble_bee
    Offline

    bumble_bee New Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane

    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    19
    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2019
    Gender:
    Male
    Rep Bank:
    $97
    Hello Ladies and Gents

    I am looking for advice on outsourcing SEO

    This will let me focus more on client acquisition, scaling up & steering the ship

    I run a niche web design & digital agency for the legal industry. I launched it 2 weeks ago and signed up my first clients on Friday. They are paying for a new website, monthly support & monthly SEO services. More clients will be signed up this week. It's growing quite fast, possibly because I have a law degree and connections in this niche.

    Each client expects the following
    * 14 hours of work per month
    * Monthly progress reports
    * Backlink building

    I can provide more specific info upon request. Generally, there are specific keywords for each client. They want to improve their rankings so they can increase leads.

    I'm looking for advice on how to find the right people, where to find them, what to be careful of, tips, tricks, advice etc.

    I will keep a close eye on everyone who works for me.

    General qualities that I am looking for:
    * Integrity, honesty, consistency & great work ethic
    * Someone who is invested in the success of this business. There's plenty of work on the horizon for people who do right by me and my clients.
    * Experience & expertise

    Please shoot through your thoughts. I really appreciate it.

    I'm new to the game, but eager to learn.
     
    Mass and Tidder Jail like this.
  2. Tidder Jail
    Offline

    Tidder Jail Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED

    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    38
    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2018
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Brazil
    Rep Bank:
    $227
    bumble_bee likes this.
  3. bumble_bee
    Offline

    bumble_bee New Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane

    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    19
    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2019
    Gender:
    Male
    Rep Bank:
    $97
  4. Zcott
    Offline

    Zcott Bronze Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass

    Messages:
    240
    Likes Received:
    446
    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2018
    Gender:
    Male
    Rep Bank:
    $2,223
    Four ways:

    1. Do it yourself (time consuming, you might not know how to do it)
    2. Hire someone in Australia to do it (will eat up most of your revenue)
    3. Hire someone in the Philippines to do it (cheap and good workers, but might not be good for writing content)
    4. Use a white label service (less revenue for you, but they do all of the work allowing you to focus on sales)
     
  5. Charnell
    Offline

    Charnell Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass

    Messages:
    809
    Likes Received:
    1,927
    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    South Dakota
    Rep Bank:
    $11,010
    SEO is one of those industries that has A LOT of scumbags in it so what you should try to find is a local agency or freelancers that will take on the work. Don't try to go overseas with it or you'll get 2007 era tactics that hurt more than help.

    If an SEO agency isn't on the first page of Google, that is NOT a red flag and by no means a testament to skill. I sat down with a local SEO agency owner a few months ago talking tactics, and the ones he used were 80% black hat. Know the difference between black and white hat.

    Check out this write up so you know what they should be focusing on initially Local SEO: A Simple (But Complete) Guide

    Eventually, you'll reach a point where your/their efforts aren't improving the number of leads anymore month over month. Switch gears to public relations at that point. That's your backlink building, not some bummy private blog network scheme.

    If you're being told you're getting backlinks built, make sure they include that information in a report so you can check out the quality of backlinks. If they refuse, end the relationship.

    Again, SEO is one of those industries with a whole lot a scumbaggery because "it takes six months to see any effects", which is true. But six months is enough time to take your money and make a clean getaway when you find out they didn't do anything worthwhile.
     
    Sheens, Andy Black, Mass and 2 others like this.
  6. bumble_bee
    Offline

    bumble_bee New Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane

    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    19
    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2019
    Gender:
    Male
    Rep Bank:
    $97
    Thanks!

    Can you please recommend a white label agency?
     
  7. GoodluckChuck
    Offline

    GoodluckChuck Grateful Member Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass

    Messages:
    248
    Likes Received:
    893
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2017
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    my house
    Rep Bank:
    $6,963
    If the revenue is high enough you can partner with an agency like mine, but it will cut into profits.

    I have no idea where you see your business going but there are a few good agencies out there and after working with them and seeing what they do it wouldn't be too hard to process it out yourself and bring it in house.
     
    bumble_bee likes this.
  8. Isaac Oh
    Offline

    Isaac Oh Bronze Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED Speedway Pass

    Messages:
    116
    Likes Received:
    177
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2017
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Berkeley, CA
    Rep Bank:
    $926
    In researching SEO and doing a lot of it, SEO Reseller came up a lot. Not sure if anyone has experience with them but they claim to do only white label work
     
    bumble_bee likes this.
  9. Mass
    Online

    Mass It's about time Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER

    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    125
    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Rep Bank:
    $419
    Drop me a Pm with what your looking for. I'm speaking to a few White Label SEO Companies and will be more than happy to share information.

    I'm also doing something similar to you so might be useful for us to bounce ideas off each other and offer honest feedback.
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2019
    bumble_bee likes this.
  10. Zcott
    Offline

    Zcott Bronze Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass

    Messages:
    240
    Likes Received:
    446
    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2018
    Gender:
    Male
    Rep Bank:
    $2,223
    I have no recommendations as I have never used one. Be curious to see what other's say though. It's an interesting idea.
     
    bumble_bee likes this.
  11. ideasunlimited1
    Offline

    ideasunlimited1 Contributor Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED

    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    64
    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2019
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Houston
    Rep Bank:
    $354
    To piggy back on this, I can offer you 2 and 3 since we do global recruitment. So if you're looking for part time SEO assistance, go ahead and message me @Brendan Kelso . At the very least, I can answer some questions for you.
     
    bumble_bee likes this.
  12. DigitalMastery
    Offline

    DigitalMastery New Contributor

    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    6
    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2019
    Gender:
    Male
    Rep Bank:
    $32
    Post job offers to sites like up work and then interview them via skype, ask if they have any previous experience etc.

    Be clear with what has to be done and make sure they got it. Hire the best (obviously), listen the gut when picking the one.
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2019
    bumble_bee likes this.
  13. Dr. Fastlane
    Offline

    Dr. Fastlane PER ASPRA AD ASTRA Read Millionaire Fastlane

    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    35
    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2018
    Gender:
    Male
    Rep Bank:
    $198
    As much as it pains me to read this, you're correct.

    I am an SEO expert from India and I would concur with the above advice. That being said, hiring Indians/Philippinos is good for the bottom line.

    I will be starting my own SEO agency soon, if I can get the sales right I think I have a pretty good chance to scale it since human resources are cheap in this part of the world and I can supervise the work in person rather than working with someone remotely.

    If you don't know SEO at all, don't bother going with remote workers. If you already have a strategy and process in place, you can outsource to any country. Give them clear cut instructions of what you expect, the standards of quality and a process manual they can follow.

    You might have to teach them if they get some things wrong starting out, so it is vital only to start working with people who can work full time for months to come. It makes no sense to train some virtual assistant with your process only to have him quit after a month.
     
    bumble_bee and ideasunlimited1 like this.
  14. Charnell
    Offline

    Charnell Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis Read Millionaire Fastlane I've Read UNSCRIPTED FASTLANE INSIDER Speedway Pass

    Messages:
    809
    Likes Received:
    1,927
    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    South Dakota
    Rep Bank:
    $11,010
    This is it.

    If you learn SEO yourself and what you want done, you can hire any Joe Shmoe and give him clear cut instructions on how to execute. If you hire someone that does SEO and say "do your SEO magic", you're at their mercy.

    Look up Ryan Stewart on how he has set up his entire process in Google Sheets, from onboarding new clients to listing tasks.
    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJjSuQB0Xb0
     
    bumble_bee likes this.
  15. Sebastya
    Offline

    Sebastya Bronze Contributor

    Messages:
    410
    Likes Received:
    457
    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2014
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Rep Bank:
    $2,427
    Find an agency partner and have a referral agreement in place where you collect a commission on every client you refer on a recurring basis.
     
    bumble_bee likes this.

Join 1000s of entrepreneurs who are rewriting life's script and winning financial freedom.

---- ----

You must be a member to join the conversation.

Create Account

Join the community fast and easy!

REGISTER

Log In

Already have an account? Login here.

LOG IN

Share This Page