Motivation dies easily. Don't think that motivation is a prerequisite for business. Action is going to get you all the results, not motivation. If anything action aka execution is going to get you motivated quicker than waiting for the 'better' idea to hit.
Business wise, I'm still unsure of what the service actually provides/accomplishes.
Who is your target market?
What are you providing to your target market?
What can you do better than those that are providing the same value?
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This is a cool concept, and I'm not sure, but it seems like it could disrupt the list brokers for direct mail, depending on the price.
I'd bring this to the attention of some of the top direct mail guys like Craig Simpson and Brian Kurtz and see what they say about it. If they are enthusiastic, you've got it made. If they have critical feedback, take every word they say and build it into your app.
I drew a small rectangle over an area in the United States that has a population of approximately 600,000 people.
I waited, counting up to 80 at the pace of my heartbeats.
Only to get an error at the end:
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- Create a normal "shopping cart" experience. Currently, if I click on the "Purchase addresses" button, all I get is a popup that asks for my email address and credit card. This feels unsafe and sketchy. I wouldn't purchase in these circumstances.
- Describe what you are getting when you purchase the addresses. What's the format? How does it look? Is it a spreadsheet? Can I have a screenshot?
- Write up an "about" page and include the story that you told above, describing your family business and then detailing the problem you had, the tediousness of solving it, the solution that you came up with, and the amount of time it saves you per week/month/whatever.
- Write up a "compare and contrast" description of the difference between the USPS lists and other problematic list sources, and how your product works instead.
- Make it so that you can move the rectangle using a hand tool or pointer. I couldn't find a way to move it except by resizing the handles. This is ok but not ideal (it took me a minute to think of that idea).
What are you providing: Geographic based mailing lists for those businesses
What can you do better? I haven't really found anyone doing this yet. End game would be to allow users to drag a box over an area and send mailers to the entire area.
Well first off well done on avoiding the Shiny Object Syndrome and getting this far.
I like it. It's a neat idea. I'm in the UK so don't know how you would normally purchase address lists.
It would be great if you could compartmentalise it down further (I don't know what data you store) but say addresses of houses over a certain value or addresses where the main occupier is male or female. Age ranges etc.. The sort of detail that is carried within census data.
Who do you see yourself marketing this product to? In other words who would benefit the most? Certainly not Pizza delivery companies.
There are details here that bring up further thoughts. For instance, you don't have the name of the resident, only "Current resident." My realtor sent out a mailing on our behalf, and her labels had the names of the residents (at least whoever was listed in city records as the owner of the home). So some of your users may expect this data to come with the download, and feel upset when it doesn't. It would be good to set accurate expectations regarding what they will (and won't) receive. Not having the names of the residents makes the list a bit less valuable. Does the price reflect that? I have no clue of the going rate for buying a list mailings of this type.
Speaking of price, it looks like the sample list of addresses you shared came at a price of $0.50 per address. But when I create a rectangle with approximately 8,000 homes, the cost per address was like $0.13. If the addresses are priced in tiers, it would be helpful to your users to provide what the pricing tiers are so that they don't have to figure out what they are through guesswork and trial and error. "Oh, I'm at 8921 addresses, but if I go up to 10,000 addresses, the price per address will drop? Might as well add a few more and bump up to the next tier."
I understand your position I've been in a similar one with coding. Here's how it went
* Start working on my app -----> get fustrated in less than 10 seconds because I didn't know what to do, nor how to find out how (seriously) -----> procrastinate the entire day and give up ------> repeat.
I'm facing a struggle similar to this currently. With you it seems like the biggest problem is taking criticism from what you said here:
"Sometimes, get some harsh criticism about the app and give up there on the spot, and then feel defeated for a couple days/weeks/months until a new "Better" idea hits me(Back to step 1)"
But you should embrace the feedback! It great that you are at this stage. It means you have something going you just need to make adjustments. If I were you I'd change my perspective on the feedback part. See it as positive, as a way to improve, that's step one. Step 2 is implementing the feedback.
Good luck man! I hope you figure it out.
Well I have been diligently working away at implementing most of your suggestions.
This took a little bit of struggle on my side, as a developer; I am inclined to try and learn and do everything, but front end development work has never been my strong suit. I have always just enjoyed backend development.
So I bit the bullet and bought a front end editor so I could drag and drop all of the stuff I struggle with in an afternoon, and focus my time on the backend development that will really craft a great product.
This makes the sales side of my site look a lot cleaner and more professional as well.
As far as the backend, I have selected a vendor to purchase name, home price, income level, and other economic data to each address. I will have this as an add on service in the coming weeks.
I also selected a slightly better name, domain and got a half decent logo done. I will be ready to unveil the new site to anyone looking to toss me their opinion soon. I have great plans for this and I am not getting the shiny object syndrome. I am determined make this business a success.
If anyone happens to take a look at my website and notices anything that could be made better, please let me know. I am looking for my blind spots here.
Just wanted to do an update today so I stay current with the forum and because today was a good day. Was doing some marketing this morning for one of the internet service companies and used my own product!
Although it wasn't a paid service, walking through the process of selecting the houses that we wanted to mail, dragging the box over them, and downloading the address list was seamless and really made me feel great about the product.
Currently I am redesigning the customer experience to be more professional, and I am like 60-70% done with that. After I get this part finished, I will start working on upgrading the back end stuff so that the addresses are collected more efficiently.
I am so excited to unveil the new site to you guys here on the forum.
First off welcome to the forum!
Here's a good video by Same Ovens about the mind of successful people (in this case billionaires):
TL;DR: Our minds have many layers. Most of us have very shaky foundations that we try and build on.
Don't sweat it. Focus on you and where you're going, and take small steps every day to reach it.
"You should be far more concerned with your current trajectory, than with your current results" ~ James Clear
Also, one of the things I try to work on personally is to Just F**ing ship something. It may be shitty, but just ship the dammed product. Make it better and fix those things once you have an actual product.
Thank you everyone for your help!
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Possible use cases:
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- Realtors who want to target a few neighborhoods with a mailing
- Dentists, Chiropractors, or other clinics who want to greet their neighbors with ads, coupons, or deals
- Service businesses (landscapers, plumbers, dry cleaners, etc) who want to target certain neighborhoods
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is why you have given up on all of your ideas, because they are great ideas to you and so you charge ahead with it. Then when you find out nobody cares, you give up.
You need to flip it on its head, find out through marketing, social media, Google trends, adwords or whatever, if your idea is viable before you commit to it.
It is not a problem unique to you by the way, we've all done it.
I sound blunt, but don't meant to be. I'm just trying to get across that if you find bigger markets, your enthusiasm will remain high.
Things have been slowly churning out as I proceed, basically I have been throwing all my energy into building the professional checkout page as someone suggested above. This is almost complete, and I think by the end of this week I will be ready to relaunch my site under the new name, along with the new design.
After I get the new design all good to go, I have some places that I think will be looking for a product just like this. I will start pushing the product towards them.
Next I will continue to evolve my product to the next phase which I think will add a ton of value to the direct mail space. Part of me wants to work on this now, but I know that if I wait to have the perfect problem, I will never ship anything out.Roli likes this.
Would it be better to charge customers monthly for this type of service? $50 monthly for xxxxx number of addresses monthly as an example. That would allow you to build customer accounts, they become loyal users of the platform and you can contact them frequently about new offers or deals. Just a suggestion.
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