Grant Cardone, Alex Becker, Gary Vaynerchuck

[Fox]

Maybe The Fastlane Millionaire sets the bar too high and people except that same level of experience with other books.

Most books are just about getting one or two key concepts. Nothing more.
So pick specific books that you need to reach that next step and study + take action.

If you are stuck with motivation Grant Cardone has some good books on that.
I find his sales material pretty general but its a good primer.

But overall a book is just a tool you use on a journey. So focus on having a clear direction first and then use books as one tool to get you moving faster / past roadblocks.

Bit of a rant but there has been a lot of "Is X book good" threads lately and that question should be more like "Is X book good for X problem" to get real feedback. What are you hoping to learn from these people?

 

[Brad S]

They are all conmen.

Want to learn from greatness?

Read The Richest Man Who Ever Lived about Jakob Fugger.

Titan about John D Rockefeller.

Unscripted and Millionaire Fastlane .

All the info you could ever need.

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[Fastlane Liam]

You can watch, read and podcast these guys as much as you want. But at the end of the day you just gotta do some F*cking work. I fell into this trap. MJs books are all you need. I do like the 10X Rule, but thats about it.

 

[Kak]

Whatever you think of those guys - stuff like that is motivating

I love GC when I am burning out and I need to get coked up on business. I'll admit sometimes I get done watching a GC video and wonder what the hell I just spent 15 minutes on, but others are gold.

Veynerchuck? He's just a wine douche turned guru.

 

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[TreyAllDay]

Grant Cardone is the GOAT!!!

All of his books are worth the time it takes to read them. Honorable mention to 10X and Sell or Be Sold.

Why I love grant: Teaching people how to hustle and why it's important, the importance of selling, taking responsibility for a sale/life, diversifying income. Whatever he's doing must work because he sure as hell turned his net worth around fast.

That being said - he is quite rough around the edges and SOME of his advice can be questionable imo - IE: calling someone 50+ times if they aren't buying, going ALL IN on his advice, selling ANYTHING and EVERYTHING for income - some of this isn't super structured.

I would pair Grant's motivational/life advice with some more polished technical sales advice - like Jeb Blount, Fanatical Prospecting or Sales EQ (a much more polished approach to the actual sales model).

 

[Fox]

I love GC. I highly recommend checking out his audio books rather than his physical books. He narrates his own audio so adds like 2x the info and is just so high energy it pumps me up every time.

As he states in his audio books, his publishers don't let him put some stuff into the books due to political correctness, he tosses that stuff into the audio versions.

Ya his audiobooks crack me up...

“Look, just stop being a little b#%£h,

 

[benpusch]

Whatever you think of those guys - stuff like that is motivating

 

[Deleted49964]

If you're a sales guy or real estate investor, Grant Cardone's stuff is for you.

If you're a web SaaS entrepreneur/online marketer, Alex Becker is great.

If you are a beginner and just want to figure your mindset out, go for Gary.
(My advice: dont waste your time, do something productive instead)

The problem is most people blame these guys for their lack of success. They spend all their time consuming their free content and don't do anything that gets them closer to their goals...

You could just pick what suits you best and invest in that person's course (if you really cant figure it out with the free stuff...) and just GO ACT!

Either way, you own you.
They can't help you more than that.

 

[TreyAllDay]

That's a fairly strong opinion. Care to elaborate?

Not a fan of his, but I don't know how one would conclude he's so bad.

Don't know if I would call him a piece of sh** lol. However, I tried listening to "Crushing It" audiobook on a 3 hour drive to a meeting last week (suggested by many in this forum)

I turned it off after maybe 30 minutes. I don't know if I needed to listen longer but it seemed the book would be about how anyone can become a highly paid consultant, youtube celebrity, content sharer, expert, etc. Seems like the careers WANTREPRENEURS dream about. What about building a real business on CENTS, tackling hard needs, automating, building something bigger than yourself. He never mentioned separating the business from yourself, or automating? What about building a sell-able asset?

What the hell is the big craze about being a social media/marketing consultant anyways? I have an automated business that put $180 in my pocket while I slept last night - and I can sell it when I choose.

Again - I admittedly only read the first 2 chapters but it didn't start out very good.

 

[Brad S]

Don't know if I would call him a piece of sh** lol. However, I tried listening to "Crushing It" audiobook on a 3 hour drive to a meeting last week (suggested by many in this forum)

I turned it off after maybe 30 minutes. I don't know if I needed to listen longer but it seemed the book would be about how anyone can become a highly paid consultant, youtube celebrity, content sharer, expert, etc. Seems like the careers WANTREPRENEURS dream about. What about building a real business on CENTS, tackling hard needs, automating, building something bigger than yourself. He never mentioned separating the business from yourself, or automating? What about building a sell-able asset?

What the hell is the big craze about being a social media/marketing consultant anyways? I have an automated business that put $180 in my pocket while I slept last night - and I can sell it when I choose.

Again - I admittedly only read the first 2 chapters but it didn't start out very good.

Crushing It is a F*cking joke...

The first 10 pages are literally telling you to sell sand in the dessert, salt water in the ocean.

Do what everyone else is doing (that ignores all NEEDS and PROBLEMS of the market) to satisfy your laziness and narcissism.

Make the trillionth useless YouTube video otherwise known as "content".

Vaynerchuck is a LITERAL conman.

He sells snake oil to fortune 500 companies(social media marketing LOL) and when they dare ask what is the return on investment for us giving you $100,000?

Gary responds with:
What's the ROI on your mother?

Literal word-for-word answer to deflect and bully a perfectly reasonable and relevant question.

Gary has one skill:
He understands people and therefore can manipulate them effectively.

And yes the people that watch his videos are wantrapreneuers and will NEVER be great entrepreneurs, let alone even make a dollar that doesn't come from a pay check.

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[mike24601]

Haven't had any exposure to Alex Becker but I really enjoy both Grant and Gary. The majority of their "coaching" is FREE to the public on YouTube, or via their podcasts on Spotify. I've paid zero money to Grant and Gary and have gotten hours and hours of excellent content. Why bother paying for one of their talks when you can literally watch it on YouTube for free?

Gary's delivery is obviously a bit different, he swears a lot (which I sort of like), and using terms like "grind" and "hustle" is almost becoming cliche in our wantrepreneur society, but he knows his audience. In the end, there's not much difference between Gary and MJ--they both started with nothing and created their route to the Fastlane. Gary did it by dominating in the wine industry, and MJ via limousines. They both recognized and capitalized on the fledgling internet while everyone else was sleeping.

Now they have many different interests but the advice I hear is much the same. "Get off your lazy a$$ and go do some work."
"There has never been a better or easier time to make money than today." "Don't F*ck with business cards until you get some SALES!" "Putting the title of CEO on your LinkedIn means jack shit" and on and on.

 

[Plasma]

I'm fascinated by the huge difference in feelings that people have toward these people. I think these A-type personalities, unfortunately, evoke emotions in people, which more often than not leads to the people putting up a wall.

Not everything that Gary, Grant or Alex say will add value to your life, and hey, you might even dislike the person. But a wise, wealthy person I am close with told me that I can learn and get value from virtually any successful person; you just need to filter it.

Gary started off in the wine world, and he's far from a "wine snob". The details of his journey are far more interesting, and when people hear these details they think it's interesting but would never go through it themselves.
1. Living far below your means and saving the majority of the money you make for over 10 years
2. After saving all of that money, investing it into high-risk technology startups (instead of buying BMW and house to impress people that you don't honestly give a F*ck about)
3. Leaving the wine world where he was successful and comfortable, to start a marketing/advertising agency in the MIDDLE of a tech boom, where the road would have been much easier and possibly more rewarding in the short term. By the way, to highlight the scrappiness that so many entrepreneurs lose with success... they rented a conference room inside of another companies office to start this agency, even though they had money and could have afforded their own office.
4. Growing that agency to almost 1,000 employees in 9 years. The vision behind why he started the agency is brilliant, and a strategic long-term mindset that enables becoming a billionaire. That is: develop a well-oiled marketing/advertising machine, eventually buy out stale brands that are declining that were once giants, run them through this machine and explode growth, and either hold or sell those again.

Anyway, we could talk about these people for days and weeks. I think the main things I have learned from these 3 people are:
1) watch what they do, don't just listen to what they say. watch how Gary markets himself, watch how much he crams into one single day (probably more than most of us do in a week).
2) do you. you probably aren't on the same path as them (building an ad agency, or developing sales coaching, or building a massive real estate portfolio). take some lessons, and move on.
3) don't get sucked into the value content whirpool. listen in transitional moments (cooking, driving, working out, etc), and get to F*cking work.

 

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[lewj24]

I hate Gary V. I can't stand his videos. Just a hyper man who tells you to hustle and then tells you how hard he hustles. Seems to me that all he does is tweet people all day. Not much real substance in his videos. He just hypes people up with his energy and vague/big statements.

I like Becker. Some of his videos are very informative with a different perspective on things. He goes into more detail on certain things and gives his very wise outlook on topics. Only downside is he tries to sell you his software and sells it with a get rich quick strategy. Not that big of a deal though.

I don't know much about Grant.

 

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[Thoelt53]

Grant Cardone got me started in sales. He’s always good to get you fired up, but sometimes I have no idea what he’s talking about.

Any love for Andy Frisella?

IMO he blows the doors off of everyone else. And he’s the real deal. I believe his companies do $200M+ per year.

I think he’s on YouTube but I mostly listen to the MFCEO podcast. Good stuff.

 

[Dunkafelics]

I've got some of Grant Cardone's materials:

The 10X Rule Book
Sell or Be Sold Book
Webinar Series
10X Conference - 2017

The books are great and I would recommend reading at least 10X Rule.

The webinar series has been decent for the most part, but one negative I do find is that there are large chunks of the webinars where he tries to upsell. It's all fine and dandy, but I came to learn not be sold for 10-15 minutes.

I haven't watched much of the 10X Conference to be honest and I am okay with that.

What are your thoughts? Any programs that look intriguing?

 

[Determined2012]

Hey there. I'm aware of but relatively unfamiliar with the work and teachings of people like Grant Cardone, Alex Becker, and Gary Vaynerchuck. Was wondering if anybody here has ever purchased any of their products or services or attended any of their live events, and if so, what you thought of them. Thanks.

Grant Cardone is the GOAT!!!

All of his books are worth the time it takes to read them. Honorable mention to 10X and Sell or Be Sold.

 

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[Formless]

Gary does have/had other businesses so I think he's legit. Grant I don't know about. Alex I don't know about.

The best rule of thumb for not getting conned is:

Don't learn business from anyone whose primary income source always was, (and is) coaching.

 

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[GSF]

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[Determined2012]

Why I love grant: Teaching people how to hustle and why it's important, the importance of selling, taking responsibility for a sale/life, diversifying income. Whatever he's doing must work because he sure as hell turned his net worth around fast.

That being said - he is quite rough around the edges and SOME of his advice can be questionable imo - IE: calling someone 50+ times if they aren't buying, going ALL IN on his advice, selling ANYTHING and EVERYTHING for income - some of this isn't super structured.

I would pair Grant's motivational/life advice with some more polished technical sales advice - like Jeb Blount, Fanatical Prospecting or Sales EQ (a much more polished approach to the actual sales model).

I just received my copy of Fanatical Prospecting... Im gonna read it on my flight to Vegas!

I'm also going to 10X Growth Con 3 for 3 days in February. If anyone wants to know how it is I can report back.

I have purchased some of Grant Cardones paid content from Cardone University as well as some of his webinars...I love his Millionaire Booklet, its about 35 pages long, I read it regularly and I swear I always increase my income every time I re read that book...Just reinforcing that point, and constantly having that thought to INCREASE INCOME cross my mind frequently really helps me.

Some one needs to write a book on how to save/ manage money, esp. physical cash money, and esp. when/if its inconsistent because you are selling and the amount you sale varies every time.

 

[Bryan James]

Hey there. I'm aware of but relatively unfamiliar with the work and teachings of people like Grant Cardone, Alex Becker, and Gary Vaynerchuck. Was wondering if anybody here has ever purchased any of their products or services or attended any of their live events, and if so, what you thought of them. Thanks.

 

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[Kid]

if anybody here has ever purchased any of their products

Have not and will not.

 

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[ChrisR]

Gary V is a piece of shit. I do like the other two though.

 

[GPM]

I love GC. I highly recommend checking out his audio books rather than his physical books. He narrates his own audio so adds like 2x the info and is just so high energy it pumps me up every time.

As he states in his audio books, his publishers don't let him put some stuff into the books due to political correctness, he tosses that stuff into the audio versions.

 

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[PizzaOnTheRoof]

Do they practice what they teach?

Gary V shows the hustle with his dailyvee vlog which is inspiring looking back/forward 10 years from now. Grant Cardone - Does he really promote what he sells or does he teach real estate, how to build wealth and sell info products? Alex Becker turned me off with his instagram account promoting selling items on Spotify. He doesn't preach what he is teaching but his book 10 pillars is a good read.

Gary comes off as a guy riding the wave of social media. Nothing wrong with that, but he criticises entrepreneurship for being "trendy", right after he posts a Snap with #HUSTLE at the bottom.

Grant is successful through pure hustle, though I think some of his advice is a little dated. Like beating people to death with your phone hundreds of times a day. Most of his advice is gold. Love his audiobooks too.

Becker, same as Gary, is taking advantage of Youtube to market himself. However, he does own successful businesses and puts out some nuggets every now and then.

 

[Logan Powell]

How about we just don't put these individuals on a pedestal.

They are all regular people whose jobs are to create content and support their personal business ventures. None of them hold this "entrepreneur secret".

Like MJ has said "There is no F*cking script".

Watch them if you want, or don't watch them. They have all proven that they are the sharks and we are being the guppies putting them on a pedestal.

 

[Brad S]

The bolded is an extremely powerful skill that tons of people lack and don't have, but desperately need. It is a life skill for sure. It should be harnessed and cultivated by anyone who wants any type of control and or success in their life.

Grant Cardone sorta speaks to this in Sell or Be Sold.

It is why Trump is president for example.

Usually people that accomplish big things (such as becoming a billionaire or president) have a deep understanding of people.

Including themselves.

Combine that with an unusual lack of fear and a burning hunger or ambition and you have the prerequisites for greatness.





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[SEBASTlAN]

Gary V is great

 

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[Rammsteinfanboy]

Most books are just about getting one or two key concepts. Nothing more.
So pick specific books that you need to reach that next step and study + take action.

If you are stuck with motivation Grant Cardone has some good books on that.
I find his sales material pretty general but its a good primer.

This. Thats why you dont even have to buy Grants Products in the first place. His Advice
is pretty generic: Set high goals, be obsessed etc. That Guy has BILLIONS of youtubevideos, where he tells you everything he knows,
I use that for priming and instilling a mindset. Thats all.

 

[Rammsteinfanboy]

I think they are so polarising because these A-Type Guys are also extremely outgoing and gregarious. That repels and overwhelms a lot of IntrovIerts. I know Entrepreneurs who are obsessive hard chargers as well, they are just not that loud. So we gotta make a distinction here. There are mannerisms and work ethic.

 

[Steven D.]

Maybe The Fastlane Millionaire sets the bar too high and people except that same level of experience with other books.

Most books are just about getting one or two key concepts. Nothing more.
So pick specific books that you need to reach that next step and study + take action.

If you are stuck with motivation Grant Cardone has some good books on that.
I find his sales material pretty general but its a good primer.

But overall a book is just a tool you use on a journey. So focus on having a clear direction first and then use books as one tool to get you moving faster / past roadblocks.

Bit of a rant but there has been a lot of "Is X book good" threads lately and that question should be more like "Is X book good for X problem" to get real feedback. What are you hoping to learn from these people?

I appreciate this perspective because there is great information out there that can shave years off of a learning curve, as well as capital lost to pitfalls and mistakes. Each person is unique, as indicated in this thread. That's why I'm confident the question isn't who's the best, rather who's the best for me? That's a question each of us has to answer for ourselves. What's worked for my success is to choose one or two (Max) people and become obsessed with studying them. Your goal isn't to become them, rather to discover patterns to adopt their mindset and discover their actions and ways of thinking that are different than your own and if those actions and mindset are actually a roadblock to achieving your desires. My experience has been that Grant Cardone has been a great fit for my own success. Success is subjective. We each have our own definition. The common thread between each of us though, is that we want a great life filled with ambitions, accomplishments, love and goals to strive for. We want to live good and we want great things for those we care for. The mentor doesn't matter as much, if they're the person you personally trust to help you reach that.