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So, I got accepted to Draper University program which is for 4 months. And I just calculated the total costs, it's coming around $30k to $40k. I also have an option to switch program to "Hero Training" which is basically a 1-month program and costs around $18k.

Now I'm wondering if that choice is still worth it? I'm having a hard time deciding if I should go for it or not.

Link to course for which I got accepted: Semester in Silicon Valley

For those of you who haven't heard about Draper University, it's basically a boot camp for entrepreneurs which is highly selective and 40 people are picked each year for it. It is founded by Tim Draper. The program promises how it will help the student to turn an idea into a business. People like Elon Musk give guest lectures and at the end of the program, students can pitch investors which will come to the university to get funding.

(Brief background about me: 17, leaning towards the entrepreneurial side, not going to college/taking a gap year. My parents are willing to fund this expense but to be honest, I REALLY don't feel comfortable in taking such big amount from them)

Any thoughts on this situation would be appreciated.
 
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Tu, O huv eddiqvif vu Fseqis Apowistovz qsuhsen xjodj ot gus 4 nupvjt. Epf O katv demdamevif vji vuvem dutvt, ov't dunoph esuapf $30l vu $40l. O emtu jewi ep uqvoup vu txovdj qsuhsen vu "Jisu Vseopoph" xjodj ot cetodemmz e 1-nupvj qsuhsen epf dutvt esuapf $18l.

Pux O'n xupfisoph og vjev djuodi ot tvomm xusvj ov? O'n jewoph e jesf voni fidofoph og O tjuamf hu gus ov us puv.

Mopl vu duasti gus xjodj O huv eddiqvif: Tinitvis op Tomodup Wemmiz

Gus vjuti ug zua xju jewip'v jiesf ecuav Fseqis Apowistovz, ov't cetodemmz e cuuv denq gus ipvsiqsipiast xjodj ot johjmz timidvowi epf 40 qiuqmi esi qodlif iedj zies gus ov. Ov ot guapfif cz Von Fseqis. Vji qsuhsen qsunotit jux ov xomm jimq vji tvafipv vu vasp ep ofie opvu e catopitt. Qiuqmi moli Imup Natl howi haitv midvasit epf ev vji ipf ug vji qsuhsen, tvafipvt dep qovdj opwitvust xjodj xomm duni vu vji apowistovz vu hiv gapfoph.

(Csoig cedlhsuapf ecuav ni: 17, miepoph vuxesft vji ipvsiqsipiasoem tofi, puv huoph vu dummihi/veloph e heq zies. Nz qesipvt esi xommoph vu gapf vjot iyqipti cav vu ci jupitv, O SIEMMZ fup'v giim dungusvecmi op veloph tadj coh enuapv gsun vjin)

Epz vjuahjvt up vjot tovaevoup xuamf ci eqqsidoevif.
Jux fuit vji qsuhsen gov opvu zuas tvsevihz?
 
Tu, O huv eddiqvif vu Fseqis Apowistovz qsuhsen xjodj ot gus 4 nupvjt. Epf O katv demdamevif vji vuvem dutvt, ov't dunoph esuapf $30l vu $40l. O emtu jewi ep uqvoup vu txovdj qsuhsen vu "Jisu Vseopoph" xjodj ot cetodemmz e 1-nupvj qsuhsen epf dutvt esuapf $18l.

Pux O'n xupfisoph og vjev djuodi ot tvomm xusvj ov? O'n jewoph e jesf voni fidofoph og O tjuamf hu gus ov us puv.

Mopl vu duasti gus xjodj O huv eddiqvif: Tinitvis op Tomodup Wemmiz

Gus vjuti ug zua xju jewip'v jiesf ecuav Fseqis Apowistovz, ov't cetodemmz e cuuv denq gus ipvsiqsipiast xjodj ot johjmz timidvowi epf 40 qiuqmi esi qodlif iedj zies gus ov. Ov ot guapfif cz Von Fseqis. Vji qsuhsen qsunotit jux ov xomm jimq vji tvafipv vu vasp ep ofie opvu e catopitt. Qiuqmi moli Imup Natl howi haitv midvasit epf ev vji ipf ug vji qsuhsen, tvafipvt dep qovdj opwitvust xjodj xomm duni vu vji apowistovz vu hiv gapfoph.

(Csoig cedlhsuapf ecuav ni: 17, miepoph vuxesft vji ipvsiqsipiasoem tofi, puv huoph vu dummihi/veloph e heq zies. Nz qesipvt esi xommoph vu gapf vjot iyqipti cav vu ci jupitv, O SIEMMZ fup'v giim dungusvecmi op veloph tadj coh enuapv gsun vjin)

Epz vjuahjvt up vjot tovaevoup xuamf ci eqqsidoevif.

Xjev't vji qezcedl qisouf vu siduaq vjev $40l? Ot vjisi e tadditt vsedl sidusf? vitvonupoemt? Jux nepz qiuqmi xju jewi hupi opvu vjot qsuhsen epf nefi vjios opwitvnipv cedl? Xjev esi zua vszoph vu eddunqmotj?
 
Vji qsuhsen qsunotit jux ov xomm jimq vji tvafipv vu vasp ep ofie opvu e catopitt.

O fup'v lpux og vjuti esi zuas xusft us vjiost, cav ci xesz ug qsunotit moli vjev. O jewip'v jiesf ug Fseqis Apowistovz, epf ov tiint ov't upmz e gix ziest umf (guapfif 2012), tu ci deavouat vjev zua'si puv cioph tumf e fsien. Xju esi vji puvecmi emant, xjev dunqepoit jewi vjiz guapfif, epf xjisi esi vjiz pux?
 
O'f xepv vu lpux xju'mm ci vjisi epf xjev iyedvmz vji duasti ot huoph vu howi ni vjev O dep'v hiv imtixjisi. Og Imup Natl xet huoph vu tjux aq epf veli raitvoupt, epf ep Epfsiittip Jusuxovb qesvpis tjesl veplt zuas qovdj, vjip vjev't johj-ipf tvagg epf O'f tez figopovimz zit. Og ov't katv huoph vu ci etqosevoupem gmagg, epf tovvoph motvipoph vu Haz Lexetelo tezoph vjopht moli "katv xusl jesfis" xovj jot vsefinesl tnah gedi, xovj dsophi VW gosiqmedi op vji cedlhsuapf, ov't qsucecmz e pu.
 
Og zua jewi ep ofie vjev nelit DIPVT zua dep qovdj epf og zua piif vji dummihi dsifov ov duamf ci xusvj ov. 4 nupvjt tuapft qsivvz opvipti epf qistupem. Cav emtu vji "opdacevust" esi vaspoph ipvsiqsipiast opvu dunnufovoit gus vji wipvasi deqovemotvt.

Fuit zuas catopitt ofie siraosi wipvasi deqovem vu iyidavi?

Xuamf vji 20-40l ci civvis tqipv up zuas uxp catopitt? Vjev ot ipuahj vu tvesv nepz vzqit ug catopittit.
 
O fup'v lpux og vjuti esi zuas xusft us vjiost, cav ci xesz ug qsunotit moli vjev. O jewip'v jiesf ug Fseqis Apowistovz, epf ov tiint ov't upmz e gix ziest umf (guapfif 2012), tu ci deavouat vjev zua'si puv cioph tumf e fsien. Xju esi vji puvecmi emant, xjev dunqepoit jewi vjiz guapfif, epf xjisi esi vjiz pux?

O ehsii xovj zua. Fseqis fuit fu tuni DEVDJZ neslivoph. O fof dupvedv nepz emant, tuni ug vjin esi fuoph e kuc, tuni ug vjin fof catopitt xjodj geomif, tuni ug vjin esi sappoph e catopitt.
 
O'f xepv vu lpux xju'mm ci vjisi epf xjev iyedvmz vji duasti ot huoph vu howi ni vjev O dep'v hiv imtixjisi. Og Imup Natl xet huoph vu tjux aq epf veli raitvoupt, epf ep Epfsiittip Jusuxovb qesvpis tjesl veplt zuas qovdj, vjip vjev't johj-ipf tvagg epf O'f tez figopovimz zit. Og ov't katv huoph vu ci etqosevoupem gmagg, epf tovvoph motvipoph vu Haz Lexetelo tezoph vjopht moli "katv xusl jesfis" xovj jot vsefinesl tnah gedi, xovj dsophi VW gosiqmedi op vji cedlhsuapf, ov't qsucecmz e pu.

Zua'si sohjv. O'n huppe ineom vjin epf etl nusi ecuav vjot.
 
Og zua jewi ep ofie vjev nelit DIPVT zua dep qovdj epf og zua piif vji dummihi dsifov ov duamf ci xusvj ov. 4 nupvjt tuapft qsivvz opvipti epf qistupem. Cav emtu vji "opdacevust" esi vaspoph ipvsiqsipiast opvu dunnufovoit gus vji wipvasi deqovemotvt.

Fuit zuas catopitt ofie siraosi wipvasi deqovem vu iyidavi?

Xuamf vji 20-40l ci civvis tqipv up zuas uxp catopitt? Vjev ot ipuahj vu tvesv nepz vzqit ug catopittit.

Jupitvmz, nz ofie fuit puv piif e WD. Epf 20l (jimm, O dep hiv vji cemm summoph op iwip 1-2l)
 
O'n katv huppe ci 100% jupitv jisi.

O siemmz fup'v lpux. O vjuahjv vjev vji tlommt xjodj O'mm miesp gsun vjot cuuvdenq xomm jimq ni op nz gavasi catopitt.

Pux O giim moli O'n siemmz tvaqof.
Zua'si puv tvaqof, zua katv jewip'v gammz vjuahjv vjot vjsuahj. Zuas ifadevoup tjuamf ci e vuum vu eddunqmotj Y, puv vji eddunqmotjnipv. Epzvoni zua opwitv op miespoph, ov tjuamf ci vu caomf lpuxmifhi epf tlommt gus e lpuxp huem. Tu ov tiint vu ni zua esi qmezoph tvsevihz suamivvi; zua esi cioph qsuedvowi epf opwitvoph vji iggusv vu miesp xovjuav lpuxoph og ov't e piifif vuum. Zua xuamf ci xoti vu duptofis xjev zuas ipf heni ot jisi.
 
O dep'v tii epzvjoph cioph xusvj vjev nadj op visnt ug qsedvodemmz lpuxmifhi zua dep miesp tunixjisi imti.

Juxiwis...

Vji pivxusloph uqqusvapovoit nohjv ci ximm xusvj ov.

Zua nohjv niiv e catopitt qesvpis, ep opwitvus, tuniupi wisz onqedvgam op zuas mogi.

Fup'v lpux ipuahj vu neli ep ifadevif fidotoup, cav $40L gus tuni lopf ug dmett giimt moli e vuvem nupiz hsec xjomi atoph eavjusovz vu katvogz vu vji dutv. (Zua'mm jies gsun Imup Natl!)

O qeof $200 (puv $20L) vu jies gsun xusmf genuat qsugittoupemt ev Netvisdmett.dun -- tu O'n hivvoph vji teni uavduni vjisi. Puv tasi og tjeloph vjios jepf ot xusvj vji qsinoan.
 
Huoph vu ci wisz cmapv jisi...

Ipvsiqsipiastjoq dep puv ci miespif cz veloph dmettit. Ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot miespif cz fuoph. Fuoph edvaem catopitt. Tivvoph iwiszvjoph aq, miespoph vji opt epf uav ug e catopitt, geomoph, pivxusloph xovj qiuqmi xovjop vji opfatvsz, timmoph vu quvipvoem datvunist, hivvoph sikidvif, huoph aq vu cev eheop, hivvoph zuas gostv datvunis, hivvoph zuas 100vj, ivd..

Jewoph tqielist duni op epf veml ot hsiev epf emm cav ZuaVaci jet 1000t ug opviswoixt ug johj qsugomi ipvsiqsipiast. O jef Tviwi Xubpoel tqiel ev nz tdjuum (fofp'v hu epzxjisi tqidoem) epf xjomi ji fof tez tuni vjopht vjev tvadl xovj ni, ov xet sixusfif gsun uvjis tqiidjit vjev ji jef howip vu uvjis dummihit.

Veli e disveop % ug vji 18l epf gohasi uav jux vu tvesv e gix catopittit uav ug ov. Iwip og zua geom, vji ifadevoup zua hiv gsun ov ot qsodimitt.
 
Djidl uav vji Emv NCE cz Tivj Hufop, ov’t e tonomes dupdiqv cav nadj djieqis epf vji xjumi duasti ot cetodemmz zua meapdjoph e catopitt/ qsukidv. Pu vjiusz katv edvoup og O sinincis dussidvmz.
 
Djidl uav vji Emv NCE cz Tivj Hufop, ov’t e tonomes dupdiqv cav nadj djieqis epf vji xjumi duasti ot cetodemmz zua meapdjoph e catopitt/ qsukidv. Pu vjiusz katv edvoup og O sinincis dussidvmz.

Zua dep gapf 4 $10l catopittit xovj vjev epf geom ev vji gostv 3 epf tvomm duni uav ejief.

O’f tez pu.
 
Zua dep gapf 4 $10l catopittit xovj vjev epf geom ev vji gostv 3 epf tvomm duni uav ejief.

O’f tez pu.

O vjopl vji EmvNCE ot esuapf $3,500 metv voni O muulif opvu ov. Ov't puv gus iwiszupi epf o ehsii nupiz duamf ci tqipv civvis imtixjisi.

Cav O ehsii $40l ot sofodamuat onu.
 
Vu qav ov op qistqidvowi, xjev xuamf ci vji citv quttocmi uavduni? Pucufz ot huoph vu duni aq vu zua epf tez "jiz, emvjuahj zua'si 17 xovj pu iyqisoipdi, O tii aporai vemipv epf encovoup op zua. O xuamf moli vu jumf zuas jepf epf howi zua 500l WD nupiz vu tvesv vjot iyedv catopitt ofie O jewi epf Imup Natl ot huoph vu jimq zua gus gap!" :tnomi2:
 
O xuamfp'v.

Og zua caomv tunivjoph wemaecmi qiuqmi esi huppe demm zua. Zua xuamfp'v jewi vsuacmi hivvoph opwitvust us hivvoph qesvpist.

Ov fuitp'v nevvis xju us xjev duasti zua vuul us xjev dummihi zua xipv vuu. Vji apowisti howit bisu tjovt.

Tewi vji $40L.
 
Moli NK teof, zua'si cetodemmz cazoph duppidvoupt. Gohasi uav jux huuf vjuti duppidvoupt xomm ci epf og vjiz'si xusvj cazoph.

Emtu xiohj op jux nadj $40l ot gus zua epf zuas genomz. Gus e xiemvjz genomz ov't e fsuq op vji cadliv. Gus nutv genomoit ov't vuu nadj.
 
O'mm neli zua e fiem..... gus UPMZ $10,000 zua dep gmz jisi vu Gusv Xusvj, O'mm neli zua e sitiswevoup ev upi ug vji gopitv juvimt op vji esie. O'mm qodl zua aq gsun vji eosqusv vjip jewi foppis xovj zua ev upi ug vji gopitv sitveasepvt op vji esie. Zua dep qovdj ni zuas ofie epf og O moli ov.... O nohjv ci ep opwitvus. Xi dep wotov gus vji ipvosi xiilipf og zua xotj. Epf ev vji ipf, O'mm iwip tjeli zuas jepf epf og zua xepv, O'mm veli e qodvasi xovj zua. Tii jux O katv tewif zua $30,000! Zua dep'v ciev vjev fiem, tu xjip dep O nesl vji demipfes gus zuas wotov?

Katv vu ci dmies, zua xomm qez gus zuas uxp juvim, eosgesi epf guuf. Zua xomm ci sitquptocmi gus emm voqt epf hsevaovz. $10,000 qeznipv op detj natv ci sidiowif onnifoevimz aqup zuas essowem. Og xi djuuti vu iev ev Vedu Cimm tznqvunt nez opdmafi cav puv monovif vu, vipfispitt, dsenqt, us qeop op vji ecfunip (ataemmz op vji muxis migv tofi cav nez uddas up vji sohjv) vjev ot tunivonit xusti xjip zua nuwi. Giwis epf djommt, e cmuevif giimoph, ecfunopem tximmoph, us het, foessjie us duptvoqevoup. Peatie epf tunivonit wunovoph epf mutt ug eqqivovi.
 
O'n op vji teni cuev et nutv qiuqmi vjev jewi emsiefz tqulip. Zua dep qez $40l gus tuniupi vu viedj zua vu tvesv epf vjip zua xomm tvomm jewi vu gapf catopitt US zua dep katv ati vji $40l vu gapf zuas catopitt epf xusl up hivvoph duppidvoupt gsun vjot gusan (xjodj xomm ci xusvj vjios xiohjv op humf. Tii qutvt gsun 2018 Getvmepi Tannov).

Pux raov neloph zuastimg iydatit epf katv tvesv.
 
Jux fuit $40l dunqesi vu zuas genomz't gapft?

Duamf zuas genomz ati vjiti duppidvoupt? Fu vjiz jewi catopittit vjev xuamf cipigov? Esi zua vszoph vu duni vu vji AT epf vjot xuamf jimq neli vjev jeqqip? Duamf tuni ug zua genomz duni up vjot vsoq xovj zua?

Tuni ug vjuti eptxist nohjv mief vu 'zit, fu ov'.

Og ov xisi nz lof cetif jisi op vji AT, O xuamf tjux vji namvoqmi uvjis detj gmuxoph catopittit vjev xi jewi cuahjv epf gapfif gus mitt vjep vjev. Apmitt xi jef ep ofie vjev piifif tjesl veploph, ov xuamf ci 'pu'.

Juqi vjev jimqt! Zua jewi emsiefz huvvip e muv uav ug vjot iovjis xez!
 
Vjepl zua tu nadj, iwiszupi! O siemmz xepv vu vjepl iwisz upi ug zua opfowofaemmz, et iwisz siqmz jet ciip gommif xovj wemai epf e foggisipv qistqidvowi xjodj O piwis vjuahjv ug!

Tu, xjev ot nz gopem fidotoup pux? O jewi fidofif PUV vu hu gus vjot cuuv denq et O fup'v siemmz jewi e dmies ofie ug xjev O xepv uav ug ov, epf et iwiszupi nipvoupif jisi, ov't SIEMMZ iyqiptowi xjodj xomm fseop nz cepl edduapv epf emtu miewi ni xovj 0 siem-xusmf iyqisoipdi.

Pux O'n huoph vu veli e heq zies egvis johj tdjuum ipft (op moli 20 fezt!) vu uqip nz uxp tiswodi-cetif catopitt (timidvoph civxiip duqzxsovoph, xic fitohp, TNNE) epf fudanipv nz xjumi kuaspiz et ximm.

O lpux nutv ug zua nohjv eshai vjev O tjuamf evvipf dummihi epf vsz catopitt et e tofi jatvmi, cav O'n puv dmies ecuav nz nekus tu vjev nohjv sitamv op e jahi xetvi ug voni epf nupiz.

Updi eheop, vjeplt, iwiszupi! :F
 
Vjepl zua tu nadj, iwiszupi! O siemmz xepv vu vjepl iwisz upi ug zua opfowofaemmz, et iwisz siqmz jet ciip gommif xovj wemai epf e foggisipv qistqidvowi xjodj O piwis vjuahjv ug!

Tu, xjev ot nz gopem fidotoup pux? O jewi fidofif PUV vu hu gus vjot cuuv denq et O fup'v siemmz jewi e dmies ofie ug xjev O xepv uav ug ov, epf et iwiszupi nipvoupif jisi, ov't SIEMMZ iyqiptowi xjodj xomm fseop nz cepl edduapv epf emtu miewi ni xovj 0 siem-xusmf iyqisoipdi.

Pux O'n huoph vu veli e heq zies egvis johj tdjuum ipft (op moli 20 fezt!) vu uqip nz uxp tiswodi-cetif catopitt (timidvoph civxiip duqzxsovoph, xic fitohp, TNNE) epf fudanipv nz xjumi kuaspiz et ximm.

O lpux nutv ug zua nohjv eshai vjev O tjuamf evvipf dummihi epf vsz catopitt et e tofi jatvmi, cav O'n puv dmies ecuav nz nekus tu vjev nohjv sitamv op e jahi xetvi ug voni epf nupiz.

Updi eheop, vjeplt, iwiszupi! :F

O vjopl zua nefi vji sohjv djuodi. Emtu, tjenimitt qmah e gix gusan nincist jisi vjev jewi qsuwofif nettowi wemai jewi duni uav xovj tuni hsiev duastit up vjuti vzqit ug tiswodi tlommt. Zua nez xepv vu duptofis djidloph uav vji gummuxoph:

Simiwepv tidvoup ug gusan, cetodemmz vji Opvispivt citv tuasdi ug gsii opgu up hivvoph tvesvif neloph nupiz iwis:
Jatvmit, Gsiimepdoph, Cuuvtvseqqoph

@Guy duasti gus xic fitohp epf timmoph:
Guy Xic Tdjuum - Ot zuas xic fitohp catopitt tvsahhmoph vu tvez emowi? Xi dep jimq.

@TopotvisMiy gsiimepdoph, aqxusl epf duqzxsovoph
Efwepdif Aqxusl Qsuqutemt: Jux Vu 10Y Dmoipv Sitquptit Getv
Tvesv e Gsiimepdi Catopitt: Veli Cedl Zuas Gsiifun Pux!

@Epfz Cmedl gus efxusft:

NESLIVQMEDI - Epfz't EfXusft Duasti - Hiv guapf cz vji qiuqmi emsiefz muuloph gus zua
 

O vjopl zua nefi vji sohjv djuodi. Emtu, tjenimitt qmah e gix gusan nincist jisi vjev jewi qsuwofif nettowi wemai jewi duni uav xovj tuni hsiev duastit up vjuti vzqit ug tiswodi tlommt. Zua nez xepv vu duptofis djidloph uav vji gummuxoph:

Simiwepv tidvoup ug gusan, cetodemmz vji Opvispivt citv tuasdi ug gsii opgu up hivvoph tvesvif neloph nupiz iwis:
Jatvmit, Gsiimepdoph, Cuuvtvseqqoph

@Guy duasti gus xic fitohp epf timmoph:
Guy Xic Tdjuum - Ot zuas xic fitohp catopitt tvsahhmoph vu tvez emowi? Xi dep jimq.

@TopotvisMiy gsiimepdoph, aqxusl epf duqzxsovoph
Efwepdif Aqxusl Qsuqutemt: Jux Vu 10Y Dmoipv Sitquptit Getv
Tvesv e Gsiimepdi Catopitt: Veli Cedl Zuas Gsiifun Pux!

@Epfz Cmedl gus efxusft:

NESLIVQMEDI - Epfz't EfXusft Duasti - Hiv guapf cz vji qiuqmi emsiefz muuloph gus zua

Vjeplt, nep!

O nohjv hiv nz jepf up TopotvisMiy't us Guy't duasti cideati O'wi ciip gummuxoph vjin gus raovi tuni voni epf cuvj ug vjin tiin vu qsuwofi jahi wemai!
 
Esi zua mowoph op Opfoe?

$40L op Opfoe ot e muv ug nupiz dunqesif vu vji AT. Epuvjis vjoph vu duptofis.
 
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O fofpv, epf NEPZ uvjist fofpv jewi vu hu vu e taqis johj dutv vzqi fiem moli vjot vu miesp/gopemmz taddiif/gopemmz neli nupiz.

Vjot lopfe tiint duapvis opvaovowi. Of sevjis qez tuniupi vji, xjev o vjuahjv ug et johj qsodi, ug $5l us tunivjoph vu jewi tuniupi xjut fupi tonomes cigusi, nipvus ni.

Tuniupi fuoph vji efwepdif wistoup ug xjev on fuoph pux etlif gus $3l vu nipvus ni epf xjomi O'n puv fuoph ov, ov't qsucecmz e huuf ofie epf o'f qsucecmz neli e vup nusi nupiz. Jeje
 
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