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Good afternoon everyone,

I'm Kris, 34 years old, and have been an electrician for 14 years. I've grown very tired of working for other people and am ready to venture out on my own again.

I've had 2 failed business in the past. The first was automotive reconditioning. I would perform cosmetic repairs to used cars for dealers. I took other people's advice on the market and failed to do my own research. The market in the area was much cheaper than expected and I couldn't turn enough profit. The second was an internet company that sold gift baskets (my wife made the gift baskets and I TRIED to sell them). This one failed for several reasons. Our entry to the market was right before the recession, I really wasn't that into selling gift baskets, and I failed to differentiate from other companies.

I'm struggling a bit at the moment with my next business. As an electrician, the next logical choice would be to open my own shop as an electrical contractor. I feel that this is a lot like a job where I'm trading time for money and lack the ability to scale.

I've read Unscripted and the book really resonated with me. Not only for business but for all the falsities the script is constantly shoving down our throats. Needless to say, the book has lit a fire under my a$$ and I'm ready to get Unscripted. Thanks MJ.
 

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Good afternoon everyone,

I'm Kris, 34 years old, and have been an electrician for 14 years. I've grown very tired of working for other people and am ready to venture out on my own again.

I've had 2 failed business in the past. The first was automotive reconditioning. I would perform cosmetic repairs to used cars for dealers. I took other people's advice on the market and failed to do my own research. The market in the area was much cheaper than expected and I couldn't turn enough profit. The second was an internet company that sold gift baskets (my wife made the gift baskets and I TRIED to sell them). This one failed for several reasons. Our entry to the market was right before the recession, I really wasn't that into selling gift baskets, and I failed to differentiate from other companies.

I'm struggling a bit at the moment with my next business. As an electrician, the next logical choice would be to open my own shop as an electrical contractor. I feel that this is a lot like a job where I'm trading time for money and lack the ability to scale.

I've read Unscripted and the book really resonated with me. Not only for business but for all the falsities the script is constantly shoving down our throats. Needless to say, the book has lit a fire under my a$$ and I'm ready to get Unscripted. Thanks MJ.
Welcome.

You might find the two radio interviews in my signature interesting.
 

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Great intro. Wise choice to not open up your own shop for the reasons that you laid out. I think in your case, your energy would be best spent trying to solve a problem in the electrical industry or solving a problem in a different industry altogether. Maybe product based rather than service based like some really kickass wire strippers or something. You get the idea.
 
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See Rohan Gilkes information on Reddit for how to start a service business.

He has made software possible that allows you to scale readily. You need contractors though.

You also have to read Andy Black's post on how to setup AdWords campaigns. Go through the information. Take his free trial. It's enough to start.

Check out WordPress BFF for a 5 day course on building a WordPress platform

Use Beaver builder for everything else on WordPress.

Consider Launch 27 software. It integrates nicely. Consider hotjar and groove jar.

Last, you won't be able to sell the business unless you learn information from "The automatic customer".

Create aervice for power outages at $10 a month. Guarantee 15 minute arrival unless it's a city infrastructure problem.

500 subs = $5k

Same goes for flickering lights. You know that's a panel issue usually so plan on another 1k to 2k in work.

$500 subs = $5k

Create a discount package at 30% off for a complete sub each month to do everything electrical including changing light bulbs. Install LED lights and you won't see them for 5 years Loolololololol.

$30 x 5 subs x 500 = $15k/mo

Retire.

Then it's fastlane.

Edit: if you're lazy, I have a vetted contact who will build you a super customized WordPress site for $7.5k.

Lower customization comes out at 4.7k for a site with L27.
 

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My dad is a sparkie and his body is totally screwed now. He also couldn't handle the stress of scaling and growing a contracting company with employees under him.

Good luck to you man, lots of opportunities out there people seem to be putting forward :)
 

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See Rohan Gilkes information on Reddit for how to start a service business.

He has made software possible that allows you to scale readily. You need contractors though.

You also have to read Andy Black's post on how to setup AdWords campaigns. Go through the information. Take his free trial. It's enough to start.

Check out WordPress BFF for a 5 day course on building a WordPress platform

Use Beaver builder for everything else on WordPress.

Consider Launch 27 software. It integrates nicely. Consider hotjar and groove jar.

Last, you won't be able to sell the business unless you learn information from "The automatic customer".

Create aervice for power outages at $10 a month. Guarantee 15 minute arrival unless it's a city infrastructure problem.

500 subs = $5k

Same goes for flickering lights. You know that's a panel issue usually so plan on another 1k to 2k in work.

$500 subs = $5k

Create a discount package at 30% off for a complete sub each month to do everything electrical including changing light bulbs. Install LED lights and you won't see them for 5 years Loolololololol.

$30 x 5 subs x 500 = $15k/mo

Retire.

Then it's fastlane.

Edit: if you're lazy, I have a vetted contact who will build you a super customized WordPress site for $7.5k.

Lower customization comes out at 4.7k for a site with L27.
Rohan is a rock star, and very generous with his knowledge
 

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See Rohan Gilkes information on Reddit for how to start a service business.

He has made software possible that allows you to scale readily. You need contractors though.

You also have to read Andy Black's post on how to setup AdWords campaigns. Go through the information. Take his free trial. It's enough to start.

Check out WordPress BFF for a 5 day course on building a WordPress platform

Use Beaver builder for everything else on WordPress.

Consider Launch 27 software. It integrates nicely. Consider hotjar and groove jar.

Last, you won't be able to sell the business unless you learn information from "The automatic customer".

Create aervice for power outages at $10 a month. Guarantee 15 minute arrival unless it's a city infrastructure problem.

500 subs = $5k

Same goes for flickering lights. You know that's a panel issue usually so plan on another 1k to 2k in work.

$500 subs = $5k

Create a discount package at 30% off for a complete sub each month to do everything electrical including changing light bulbs. Install LED lights and you won't see them for 5 years Loolololololol.

$30 x 5 subs x 500 = $15k/mo

Retire.

Then it's fastlane.

Edit: if you're lazy, I have a vetted contact who will build you a super customized WordPress site for $7.5k.

Lower customization comes out at 4.7k for a site with L27.
Brilliant.

@K Larey are you familiar with the frustrations/pains in your market? Do you have alot of Electrician friends?
 
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Great intro. Wise choice to not open up your own shop for the reasons that you laid out. I think in your case, your energy would be best spent trying to solve a problem in the electrical industry or solving a problem in a different industry altogether. Maybe product based rather than service based like some really kickass wire strippers or something. You get the idea.
Thanks for the reply. I'm looking into building some online courses for my fellow electricians. I've also got some ideas for SAAS products but currently lack the technical knowledge.
 
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K Larey

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My dad is a sparkie and his body is totally screwed now. He also couldn't handle the stress of scaling and growing a contracting company with employees under him.

Good luck to you man, lots of opportunities out there people seem to be putting forward :)
I'm experiencing what you're dad went thru with his body. Most days work hurts. I used to regularly run multi-million dollar projects with 25+ men so employees aren't really the issue. It's a rough business to be in. I'm looking more into selling the shovels than digging for gold, if you catch my drift.
 
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K Larey

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Brilliant.

@K Larey are you familiar with the frustrations/pains in your market? Do you have alot of Electrician friends?
The market I work in is limited mostly to large commercial and industrial projects with established contractors capable of bonding $50m/yr +. They pretty much have it sorted out. The residential market is a different story though. It's a little more wild west there. I think that would be my focus.
I do have a lot of electrician friends. Unfortunately they, like myself, are part of a labor union that really frowns upon starting your own business or leaving the union. They levy fines against you and get blacklisted. It's a very risky endeavor for them if it doesn't work out. I don't think they would come with.
 

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K Larey

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See Rohan Gilkes information on Reddit for how to start a service business.

He has made software possible that allows you to scale readily. You need contractors though.

You also have to read Andy Black's post on how to setup AdWords campaigns. Go through the information. Take his free trial. It's enough to start.

Check out WordPress BFF for a 5 day course on building a WordPress platform

Use Beaver builder for everything else on WordPress.

Consider Launch 27 software. It integrates nicely. Consider hotjar and groove jar.

Last, you won't be able to sell the business unless you learn information from "The automatic customer".

Create aervice for power outages at $10 a month. Guarantee 15 minute arrival unless it's a city infrastructure problem.

500 subs = $5k

Same goes for flickering lights. You know that's a panel issue usually so plan on another 1k to 2k in work.

$500 subs = $5k

Create a discount package at 30% off for a complete sub each month to do everything electrical including changing light bulbs. Install LED lights and you won't see them for 5 years Loolololololol.

$30 x 5 subs x 500 = $15k/mo

Retire.

Then it's fastlane.

Edit: if you're lazy, I have a vetted contact who will build you a super customized WordPress site for $7.5k.

Lower customization comes out at 4.7k for a site with L27.
Wow, thanks for taking the time to write all of that. I'm going to start looking into that right now. The fastlane community has proven to be very helpful.
 

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The market I work in is limited mostly to large commercial and industrial projects with established contractors capable of bonding $50m/yr +. They pretty much have it sorted out. The residential market is a different story though. It's a little more wild west there. I think that would be my focus.
I do have a lot of electrician friends. Unfortunately they, like myself, are part of a labor union that really frowns upon starting your own business or leaving the union. They levy fines against you and get blacklisted. It's a very risky endeavor for them if it doesn't work out. I don't think they would come with.
How about starting small then. Maybe start a marketing blog for electricians... to get more work. Hell, maybe you can teach others how to be like those commercial or industrial contractors? People who are successful are better to interview... should you decide to go down the route listed here:

GOLD - No network? No money? No idea? No education? NO PROBLEM!

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How about starting small then. Maybe start a marketing blog for electricians... to get more work. Hell, maybe you can teach others how to be like those commercial or industrial contractors? People who are successful are better to interview... should you decide to go down the route listed here:

GOLD - No network? No money? No idea? No education? NO PROBLEM!

by @IceCreamKid
Great idea. That would both help myself and other electricians. I've also thought about starting a small shop with the sole purpose of walking other contractors thru the journey of starting a business, gaining clients, making sales, experimenting with what works and what doesn't, etc..
 
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K Larey

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I'll take a listen tomorrow morning. Thanks for the reply.
Welcome.

You might find the two radio interviews in my signature interesting.
I listened to your radio interviews this morning while I was tiling my bathroom. I found them very easy to follow. A real common sense approach. A good use of ad-words to determine if there is a market for your product. I also like "grow what you know". Very helpful. Thanks for the advice.
 

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Just wanted to pop-in and say great introduction, appreciate you took time to do that.

Welcome aboard.
 

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I too belong to a union but took retirement due to the fact that my business now far exceeds what I could earn working.

BUT, I wouldn't have this business if it weren't for all the time I spent in the trade.

Sometimes it is the opportunity in the job, not the job itself.

There are plenty of opportunities to make improvements OR sell products in your field without resorting to competing in a service/contracting business which justifiably would piss them off. I doubt they would frown on you if it isn't in a competitive industry. They need/use products daily, anywhere from union printing to apparel etc. That doesn't even include tools, software programs, apps, etc which can be an asset to all union members.

American made is huge with them. Made by a Union Member is THE STORY.

They can become your biggest customer.

Just open your mind to opportunities in the industry other than working with your hands.

Good luck!
 
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I too belong to a union but took retirement due to the fact that my business now far exceeds what I could earn working.

BUT, I wouldn't have this business if it weren't for all the time I spent in the trade.

Sometimes it is the opportunity in the job, not the job itself.

There are plenty of opportunities to make improvements OR sell products in your field without resorting to competing in a service/contracting business which justifiably would piss them off. I doubt they would frown on you if it isn't in a competitive industry. They need/use products daily, anywhere from union printing to apparel etc. That doesn't even include tools, software programs, apps, etc which can be an asset to all union members.

American made is huge with them. Made by a Union Member is THE STORY.

They can become your biggest customer.

Just open your mind to opportunities in the industry other than working with your hands.

Good luck!

Yes, exactly what you said. I really don't want to start contracting and compete against the people who have provided me a lot of opportunity. Plus, there are much easier ways to make a living. You've really got my wheels spinning. Must tame the squirrel brain.
 

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Welcome aboard!

I'm struggling a bit at the moment with my next business. As an electrician, the next logical choice would be to open my own shop as an electrical contractor. I feel that this is a lot like a job where I'm trading time for money and lack the ability to scale.
Sometimes it is the opportunity in the job, not the job itself.
These two together are the question: how to not trade time for money, and what can be done in the market you were in...

Here in Belgium, there's a nice example. No idea how it would scale and work where you're at, but here goes:

Housing prices keep going up, and a lot of folks when constructing their home see value in doing some things themselves. Most choose for plumbing and electricity. But where to start and how to do it?

There are 3-4 big companies now that help: they help planning (you go to their office and they draw a floor plan of where light switches are), then sell you all of the material and a DVD with how-to's on every aspect. They have a support phone number to call if you are stuck, and if you're really stuck they can come over to help out at big €€/h. Overall the offering turns out to be 2-3k cheaper than having someone install electricity, which is a nice budget to spend on other things.
 

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Hi mate I'm a plumber. I've posted something similar here if you want to have a look. The only thing that put me away is the human resource system, especially on a service business like ours.

All the best!
Chris

 

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