Climate Change is the #1 Problem the World Faces

[MJ DeMarco]

No matter what anyone believes on climate change, sustainability is a growing market. A market doesn't need to be based on truth, just widespread acceptability and a growing desire for it.

I don't like the phrase "climate change" and instead just like to call it "human destruction" which I think we can all agree is a growing problem, from pollution to overpopulation to rampant consumption and disposability of too many things.

Being less destructive and sustainable is a strong value skew.

 

[G-Man]

No matter what anyone believes on climate change, sustainability is a growing market. A market doesn't need to be based on truth, just widespread acceptability and a growing desire for it.

I don't like the phrase "climate change" and instead just like to call it "human destruction" which I think we can all agree is a growing problem, from pollution to overpopulation to rampant consumption and disposability of too many things.

Being less destructive and sustainable is a strong value skew.

This. I think there’s a 99 percent chance that climate change is blown out of proportion by a bunch of people that are useless without the government jobs and research funding created by said crisis.

That said, I don’t understand why climate change even needs to be true. I know that if a human being breathes car exhaust, he will die, so it’s probably not a great idea to put that exhaust into the air we all breathe. No apocalyptic boogeyman needed.

Ultimately the market has a better shot at solving the problem than regulators because unlike the government, the market is both creative and productive.

OP is right, this is a huge market arena we should all be watching.

 

[TheCj]

The one thing that always never get mentioned is that here in Canada and USA our population totals to 0.33 Billion of the world's 7.7 billion.

So even if North America reduced to 0% harm to the environment it would be about 10-15%? drop globally in harm done to the environment. Which yes is helpful. It's just that China and India have over 2.6 Billion people and produce almost 40% of the environmental harm as they continue to grow industrially.

So the 80/20 principal comes to mind.

It's like seeing individual home owners sorting there garbage into garbage, recycling and compost containers. Then you go to a large condo or apartment complex or an actual garbage dump, and see the lack of sorting in these places and the whole thing is laughable.

 

[Kevin88660]

The greatest problem facing humanity is still ill health and death.

Always.

If you can extend the life of an billionaire by ten years he surely wont mind giving you 10 percent of his wealth.

If you research what is going on in the health industry and its development, it will make energy business, internet business and even space travel looks like peanut.

 

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[Maxboost]

Absurd...

Unless you get China and India to reduce their green house gasses, there is nothing anyone can do.

Sell the obvious, sell your day trading "system" or start a youtube channel.

 

[B. Cole]

Absurd...

Unless you get China and India to reduce their green house gasses, there is nothing anyone can do.

Sell the obvious, sell your day trading "system" or start a youtube channel.

Company that helps factories implement green manufacturing processes abroad? You’d have to optimize the changes so companies could afford to adopt them, and pitch to them that it aligns their factory with America and other countries’ goals for emissions and energy reduction, making them more attractive to importers that source from abroad. There are paybacks to LED retro-fitting/conversion, peak demand load shedding, HVAC optimization/recommissioning and many other things that will save the factory energy usage and put money back in their pockets.

A stretch? Naaah. We do it at my day job constantly to meet our energy goals and maintain Leed certifications.

And yes, the biggest problem for humanity is that currently every human is going to die, climate change or not. Healthcare, geriatrics and even gerontology only treat the symptoms of aging. We need to get to the core of senescence and control/repair/rejuvenate metabolically created molecular damage, the side effect of being a living organism.

Go look up Aubrey De Grey - Sens Foundation.

The biggest threat to the world - meh. I dunno, it’s a big celestial object with or without us. Seemingly, humanity is not bad for the Earth - we’re bad for the current atmospheric conditions that we evolved to, and we very well could hit the reset button on ourselves. Earth will bounce back, and eventually succumb to the same universal circumstances that created it.

 

[pat9000]

Hey guys,

I have tried several business models, paid for for shit guru courses, and read just about every book on the topic for the past 3 years.

I did the whole blog stuff, affiliate, drop ship, whatever.

Luckily I'm a good enough day trader to have sustained myself to work from home for the past 7 months but I'm tired of sitting here. I'm tired of doing nothing.

Sure, I have no boss, wake up whenever and can do anything I want but jts getting old.

I recently read Unscripted and it started to click.

I was just in it for money and tried to convince myself there was value.

I started researching problems to solve and thought, "climate change is pretty damn serious" and I researched a lot of ways to combat it.

I am tired of failing chasing shiny businesses and gurus. I want to add value and impact a lot of people.

I have connections with factory owners and I have no problems cutting deals.

My question is am I just chasing another shiny fad or is this a smart play?

I'm tired of the bullcrap with online guys exhausting email lists with shit affiliate products after passing them back and forth. Its sad.


Thanks for reading

Pat

 

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[Johnny boy]

Start a consulting firm that has some arbitrary “stamp of approval” so companies can “become compliant” and receive your eco stamp of approval and charge them $20,000 for it.

The effect climate change has on the market exists in the mind of the consumer. The perception of environmentally friendly practices is a valuable resource for companies to have that you can sell them. Good thing the costs are pretty much nonexistant too. Great business model.

 

[Lee H]

Wow. There's a lot of skepticism on here about climate change.

I used to be a skeptic too but am definitely more of a believer these days.

We can't keep polluting the air, water and land at the levels we are and not expect a reaction from our ecosystem.

Is it a way for some areas of government or other entities to get more money out of the masses? Yes, absolutely. But that doesn't mean it's not happening.

If I were looking to get into the "climate change business" I would look at:

Clean energy systems
Micro generation
Nuclear fusion
Plastic replacement - especially packaging - paper bags anyone?

I am generally skeptical when it comes to vested interest groups touting their beliefs, like the oil industry saying we will run out (scarcity tactics) or big pharma being unable to cure diseases when it's far more profitable to treat people long term - but that's just me being and old suspicious type!

 

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[Kyle T]

Why not cure cancer while you are at it?

You are going too far in the opposite direction. Way too big of a problem to solve and the investment required would be astronomical.

 

[pat9000]

Why not cure cancer while you are at it?

You are going too far in the opposite direction. Way too big of a problem to solve and the investment required would be astronomical.

Sorry, you must not have understood. I was too vague.

No, i cant cure therapy, but I can create machines for Chemotherapy.

Just in the same that I can create solar panel companies.

I should have been more specific.

My point is, problem solving is what MJ says and with the CENTS model.

Sitting at home all day trading stocks is getting old for me.

 

[ExaltedLife]

Where is the evidence that climate change is this huge problem?

Just curious, I hear this all the time but still....no evidence.

 

[AFMKelvin]

Climate change is such a broad term. The climate has always been changing. The earth has gone from been molten to been completely frozen. There's nothing new under the sun. Now the new "carbon tax" will just be another money making scheme from our overlords.

But I do like green technologies because it'll push innovation towards cleaner power sources.

If I were you I would focus on products that reduce pollution. Specially that of plastics.

People don't realize how utterly harmful plastics truly are. Plastics have chemicals that mimick estrogen and they wreak havoc to our endocrine system.

All the craziness in today's society are cause by plastics that throw our hormones off balance.

 

[Bhanu]

I congratulate you for thinking big .
I personally would have preferred opening something related to Vegan Diet/Vegan lifestyle. This solves environmental issue indirectly, results in lesser/no suffering to Animals and good for our health too . So you are saving Planet, Animals , Human health with your company although in a small way .

 

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[ExaltedLife]

Hi ExaltedLife,

Does your house literally need to be on fire before you decide (based on the evidence) that taking action is a good idea?

Only trolls and shills demand evidence incessantly, the more enlightened amongst us (like you and me) can see potential problems before they materialise fully and cause us all problems.

I'm sure you can recall a time when some form of pre-emptive thinking saved you or someone you know from serious pain and injury?

Ever had fillings at the dentist? Is it a conspiracy that dentists the world over are trying to make money, or do we all need to have a severe toothache to learn that preventative dental care is a good thing (even if it's expensive)?

Likewise, we can think of fire-retardant treated soft-furnishings.

Fire regulations have certainly been 'forced' upon us by the governments of the world, but yet they have saved lives in the process. Perhaps we should go and burn ourselves with some matches before we start crying about the loss of liberty that our governments have caused by forcing all these fire regs on us?

Did we need to see the evidence before we purchase a device with safety precautions built in, or are we thankful that they're here already so we don't get harmed by accident?

Maybe instead of cleverly (lazily?) saying 'show me the evidence', we should all resort to common sense and seek to avoid what could be a problem before it becomes a problem.

Remember that 'an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure'.

How many days do you need to be cold and hungry before you agree that climate collapse isn't a good thing for humans?

And another thing…

Given that in this day and age of fake news, why should we even trust what an 'expert' says any more?

If a person believes that the authors of a report have an ulterior motive or dark agenda (which is impossible to disprove), then regardless of the veracity of the report, they'll still deny all the facts contained within, purely out of their own personal denial or agendas.

While I've every confidence that you're merely being inquisitive in good faith based on your other posts on the forum, I do wonder what your agenda may be when questioning climate science rather than just taking action?

Exactly how many floods, droughts, fires, hurricanes and out-of-season weather events do you need to experience yourself (or read about in the news) before you think it's odd that the climate is now routinely different than it used to be? Why do we have the hottest, wettest, coldest and driest months on record every month now, often out of season?

The economic impacts of the various hurricanes in the States is a good example of adverse climate events. We're entrepreneurs seeking to make mega bucks. Adverse climate events cause businesses problems the world over. As entrepreneurs, it's in our direct interests to take action in this area of concern.

If we're here to make money, why not make money from keeping the planet alive without questioning too deeply whether climate change is true or not? As long as there's a market, isn't that a green light to cash in?

Are some people worried that there's some global conspiracy at play here surrounding climate change, that will prevent the free thought and free activities of people globally? Frankly who cares when the cost of ignoring all these seriously negative climate events is becoming greater and greater with each passing year?

I reckon the real damage to our personal freedoms and liberties come from the existing vested interests of those who are in cahoots with global governments already. Examples include state backed industries like oil and arms profiteering massively at the expense of individuals the world over. Such industries could give a damn about the survival of the earth long term (but don't).

On the grander scale, why not be proactive instead of reactive about a problem that is causing problems for people every day? Sounds just like a problem worth solving (that people will gladly pay for).

--


Perfectly stated.

You wrote an entire page of platitudes to tell me that I should not require evidence before I 'believe' you?

LOL


There will be blood - Church healing scene

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Guys this isn't a debate on climate change...

Whether it is TRUE or NOT, the concept of sustainability and environmental shifts in perceptions (reality or not) still represents an opportunity. The #1 problem in the world? Sure, that is debatable. Nonetheless, there are big audiences for it.

 

[DayIFly]

The greatest problem facing humanity is still ill health and death.

Always.

If you can extend the life of an billionaire by ten years he surely wont mind giving you 10 percent of his wealth.

If you research what is going on in the health industry and its development, it will make energy business, internet business and even space travel looks like peanut.

This. Look into rejuvenation biotechnology and its advocates like SENS. A lot of basic research needs to be done, and the government isn't yet interested in this, so crowdfunding is a big thing now. But there already are startups that got funding to develop therapies. New breakthroughs are made every month, but they're highly complex and detailed, so the general population has no clue about this. Awareness needs to be spread.

 

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[UKPat]

Where is the evidence that climate change is this huge problem?

Just curious, I hear this all the time but still....no evidence.

Hi ExaltedLife,

Does your house literally need to be on fire before you decide (based on the evidence) that taking action is a good idea?

Only trolls and shills demand evidence incessantly, the more enlightened amongst us (like you and me) can see potential problems before they materialise fully and cause us all problems.

I'm sure you can recall a time when some form of pre-emptive thinking saved you or someone you know from serious pain and injury?

Ever had fillings at the dentist? Is it a conspiracy that dentists the world over are trying to make money, or do we all need to have a severe toothache to learn that preventative dental care is a good thing (even if it's expensive)?

Likewise, we can think of fire-retardant treated soft-furnishings.

Fire regulations have certainly been 'forced' upon us by the governments of the world, but yet they have saved lives in the process. Perhaps we should go and burn ourselves with some matches before we start crying about the loss of liberty that our governments have caused by forcing all these fire regs on us?

Did we need to see the evidence before we purchase a device with safety precautions built in, or are we thankful that they're here already so we don't get harmed by accident?

Maybe instead of cleverly (lazily?) saying 'show me the evidence', we should all resort to common sense and seek to avoid what could be a problem before it becomes a problem.

Remember that 'an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure'.

How many days do you need to be cold and hungry before you agree that climate collapse isn't a good thing for humans?

And another thing…

Given that in this day and age of fake news, why should we even trust what an 'expert' says any more?

If a person believes that the authors of a report have an ulterior motive or dark agenda (which is impossible to disprove), then regardless of the veracity of the report, they'll still deny all the facts contained within, purely out of their own personal denial or agendas.

While I've every confidence that you're merely being inquisitive in good faith based on your other posts on the forum, I do wonder what your agenda may be when questioning climate science rather than just taking action?

Exactly how many floods, droughts, fires, hurricanes and out-of-season weather events do you need to experience yourself (or read about in the news) before you think it's odd that the climate is now routinely different than it used to be? Why do we have the hottest, wettest, coldest and driest months on record every month now, often out of season?

The economic impacts of the various hurricanes in the States is a good example of adverse climate events. We're entrepreneurs seeking to make mega bucks. Adverse climate events cause businesses problems the world over. As entrepreneurs, it's in our direct interests to take action in this area of concern.

If we're here to make money, why not make money from keeping the planet alive without questioning too deeply whether climate change is true or not? As long as there's a market, isn't that a green light to cash in?

Are some people worried that there's some global conspiracy at play here surrounding climate change, that will prevent the free thought and free activities of people globally? Frankly who cares when the cost of ignoring all these seriously negative climate events is becoming greater and greater with each passing year?

I reckon the real damage to our personal freedoms and liberties come from the existing vested interests of those who are in cahoots with global governments already. Examples include state backed industries like oil and arms profiteering massively at the expense of individuals the world over. Such industries could give a damn about the survival of the earth long term (but don't).

On the grander scale, why not be proactive instead of reactive about a problem that is causing problems for people every day? Sounds just like a problem worth solving (that people will gladly pay for).

--

I don’t understand why climate change even needs to be true.

I know that if a human being breathes car exhaust, he will die, so it’s probably not a great idea to put that exhaust into the air we all breathe. No apocalyptic boogeyman needed.

Ultimately the market has a better shot at solving the problem than regulators because unlike the government, the market is both creative and productive.

OP is right, this is a huge market arena we should all be watching.

Perfectly stated.

 

[Maxboost]

When we personally suffer, maybe we'll understand why people have been freaking out since the 60ies about this stuff?

Remind yourself what it feels like to suffer from dehydration and lack of access to clean drinking water (even for 1 day)

These alarmists of the 60's killed 30 million people in 3rd world countries by banning DDT which could have prevented malaria.

If people like the OP are trying to make life healthier and more sustainable, that's a good thing. We could be applauding them and supporting them in their efforts.

This is an entrepreneurship forum and it is brutally honest. I want to cure cancer but guess what, I know jack shit about biology. Energy and effort should be focused on what you are good at. The OP says he is a good day trader, now he wants to solve climate change? Do you know how non-sensical that is?

Climate collapse is one of those needs, because it threatens every person on the planet regardless of any individual government or their cronies.

People for Bernie on Twitter

Here's Bernie Sanders fear mongering children about Global warming since 1980's.

And for your information, here are actual climate scientists showing there is no reason to be alarmed. The Earth was warmer for the past 4 billion years.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqejXs7XgsU

Can you also write a complete list of faltering or bankrupt oil and nuclear companies, or successful ones that didn't need to bribe governments and kill people to ensure profitability?

There are surely plenty of examples in every industry of failed and failing businesses, and yet some survive and thrive.

If you actually researched the climate issue, you would have known that green energy cannot be stored, making these companies TERRIBLE business ideas. They were doomed to fail from the start.

 

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[ExaltedLife]

On the other side of the coin, here is an Objectivist philosopher who created his own business; going to bat for the oil companies against climate alarmists.


How to be a climate thinker - Alex Epstein at Turning Point USA


@Kak If you haven't heard of this guy you might be interested. He wrote a book called The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels.

Perhaps his best quote in this speech is: "Nature doesn't give us a safe climate that we make dangerous. Nature gives us a dangerous climate that we make safe".

 

[Azure]

Wow. There's a lot of skepticism on here about climate change.

I used to be a skeptic too but am definitely more of a believer these days.

We can't keep polluting the air, water and land at the levels we are and not expect a reaction from our ecosystem.

Is it a way for some areas of government or other entities to get more money out of the masses? Yes, absolutely. But that doesn't mean it's not happening.

If I were looking to get into the "climate change business" I would look at:

Clean energy systems
Micro generation
Nuclear fusion
Plastic replacement - especially packaging - paper bags anyone?

I am generally skeptical when it comes to vested interest groups touting their beliefs, like the oil industry saying we will run out (scarcity tactics) or big pharma being unable to cure diseases when it's far more profitable to treat people long term - but that's just me being and old suspicious type!

Much if the skepticism exists due to the incredibly overblown, dramatic level of theatrics attached to the movement - cue Alexandria Ocasio Cortez claiming the world will end in 12 years - nobody is denying that what we do to the environment is very bad, and we should be investing in alternative energies, plastics, etc, etc - but the way that certain segments of society are trying to push towards this is cause for real alarm.

Why are they pushing towards this? What is the net benefit for them?

Without delving into a political discussion, if you investigate the main players in the climate scientist lobby groups, and deep dive into their funding sources, a lot of very interesting links come up.

 

[Kevin88660]

I see. I was sitting in a speech with a Congresswoman yesterday, Diane Black, and she was a huge healthcare advocate.

She is also one of the richest Congressmen and I could see why healthcare is so hot.

Thanks for the insight. I'm not looking to be filthy rich, I'm just looking to provide value through means beyond just watching my bank account grow.

Really depends on what your skill sets and natural market is.

You mentioned you trade stocks. There could be a business to sell the “shovels”. Ebooks for examples. You could develope niche knowledge in certain financial markets.

I worked in a prop trading firm for one year also before I turned into a financial consultant in a sales role. I turned my former colleagues and clients in previous financial firms into my current clients.

 

[Kyle T]

The greatest problem facing humanity is still ill health and death.

Always.

If you can extend the life of an billionaire by ten years he surely wont mind giving you 10 percent of his wealth.

If you research what is going on in the health industry and its development, it will make energy business, internet business and even space travel looks like peanut.

Didn't mean to come off as a dick and I apologize for misunderstanding what you meant.

 

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[The Abundant Man]

The greatest problem facing humanity is still ill health and death.

Always.

If you can extend the life of an billionaire by ten years he surely wont mind giving you 10 percent of his wealth.

If you research what is going on in the health industry and its development, it will make energy business, internet business and even space travel looks like peanut.

We should look to Okinawa. Longest living people on the planet. They have an "average" income. Yet don't have much of a healthcare system. I miss tonkatsu:

So good...

Of course Udon too

 

[Kevin88660]

This. Look into rejuvenation biotechnology and its advocates like SENS. A lot of basic research needs to be done, and the government isn't yet interested in this, so crowdfunding is a big thing now. But there already are startups that got funding to develop therapies. New breakthroughs are made every month, but they're highly complex and detailed, so the general population has no clue about this. Awareness needs to be spread.

I am sure the billionaires are already pumping money into this to extend their own lives.

When I first heard about the longevity escape velocity it blew my mind off.

 

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[NC Bidniss]

Hey guys,

I have tried several business models, paid for for shit guru courses, and read just about every book on the topic for the past 3 years.

I did the whole blog stuff, affiliate, drop ship, whatever.

Luckily I'm a good enough day trader to have sustained myself to work from home for the past 7 months but I'm tired of sitting here. I'm tired of doing nothing.

Sure, I have no boss, wake up whenever and can do anything I want but jts getting old.

I recently read Unscripted and it started to click.

I was just in it for money and tried to convince myself there was value.

I started researching problems to solve and thought, "climate change is pretty damn serious" and I researched a lot of ways to combat it.

I am tired of failing chasing shiny businesses and gurus. I want to add value and impact a lot of people.

I have connections with factory owners and I have no problems cutting deals.

My question is am I just chasing another shiny fad or is this a smart play?

I'm tired of the bullcrap with online guys exhausting email lists with shit affiliate products after passing them back and forth. Its sad.


Thanks for reading

Pat

While I think the idea of looking for a business that tries to keep the earth healthy isn't a bad one, I think that a better approach is to look how you can make any business more sustainable. There are loads of people selling things from sustainable materials, so the market may be a bit over-saturated. I see more opportunity in creating a business which is commonly seen as destructive to the environment and create a process for that business that is more sustainable. A normally "dirty" business with ISO 14001 and LEED certifications could give you a competitive edge against others who do not hold them. More and more people and businesses make the change to sustainability every day, and your market would be the people who need the service, but want to do it "right".

 

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[Maxboost]

RaznCA on Twitter

This probably sums up the climate change debate and policies surrounding the issue.

Naive people making the issue much worse while not conclusively proving the hypothesis is true. These doom and gloom environmentalists and alarmists have been freaking out the public since the 1960's from water shortages, oil shortages, the elimination of DDT to combat malaria (yeah!! we killed 30 million people! on a shit study), depletion of the rain forest, acid rain, Y2K, to Zika virus.

Those are just off the top of my head!

Even if you did find the solution to climate change, special interest and lobbyists will never allow you into the market. I remember a company 10 years ago was being blocked by the government and special interest groups from creating a method of converting CO2 to oxygen...hhhmmmmm why would the government not fund this revolutionary concept instead give money to now-bankrupt "green"companies such as Solyndra?

 

[Maxboost]

I congratulate you for thinking big .
I personally would have preferred opening something related to Vegan Diet/Vegan lifestyle. This solves environmental issue indirectly, results in lesser/no suffering to Animals and good for our health too . So you are saving Planet, Animals , Human health with your company although in a small way .

There is an ideological war going on in Youtube that I have been following closely because I find the debate interesting.

Veganism ideology is losing and the popularity of Ex-Vegan testimonials is increasing everyday as well as these anti vegan channels are growing in popularity.

Joe Rogan, Steven Crowder, Vegetable Police, Se3rige, Bobby's Perspective have all come out against veganism with the later 3 youtubers being former vegans. These channels combined get millions of views daily.

Veganism can still be a profitable niche but it is hard to say whether Youtube and these social media influencers will change the course of public perception.

 

[Bhanu]

There is an ideological war going on in Youtube that I have been following closely because I find the debate interesting.

Veganism ideology is losing and the popularity of Ex-Vegan testimonials is increasing everyday as well as these anti vegan channels are growing in popularity.

Joe Rogan, Steven Crowder, Vegetable Police, Se3rige, Bobby's Perspective have all come out against veganism with the later 3 youtubers being former vegans. These channels combined get millions of views daily.

Veganism can still be a profitable niche but it is hard to say whether Youtube and these social media influencers will change the course of public perception.

Yes I agree there is a perception war going on between veganism/anti veganism. I think still there is a large number of people who are fed up with Industrial food chains serving them chemical infested food. And in vegan lifestyle I am including Vegan Cosmetics, Vegan medicine , Vegan clothings too (along with of course vegan food).

 

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[WJK]

Hey guys,

I have tried several business models, paid for for shit guru courses, and read just about every book on the topic for the past 3 years.

I did the whole blog stuff, affiliate, drop ship, whatever.

Luckily I'm a good enough day trader to have sustained myself to work from home for the past 7 months but I'm tired of sitting here. I'm tired of doing nothing.

Sure, I have no boss, wake up whenever and can do anything I want but jts getting old.

I recently read Unscripted and it started to click.

I was just in it for money and tried to convince myself there was value.

I started researching problems to solve and thought, "climate change is pretty damn serious" and I researched a lot of ways to combat it.

I am tired of failing chasing shiny businesses and gurus. I want to add value and impact a lot of people.

I have connections with factory owners and I have no problems cutting deals.

My question is am I just chasing another shiny fad or is this a smart play?

I'm tired of the bullcrap with online guys exhausting email lists with shit affiliate products after passing them back and forth. Its sad.


Thanks for reading

Pat

You sound bored. So climb your next mountain.

I'm not sure why you've chosen climate change. It's always been changing. And I see all the flack right now as a way to dig deeper into my pocket, by those who really don't produce anything but tax bills...