Can you help give advice for a selfish guy like me ?

[OnePunchMan]

Hi all,

I've just read TMF book few month ago. Thanks MJ for your great book !

After finish reading, I think the main thing I need to overcome is I have no passion about helping anyone as MJ asks us to have it (I think I'm a self-centric guy since I was born ) but I have only one passion which is getting rich and money.

Intro
I used to sell copies of digital stuff online and get a million (1M in my country's currency, around 30,000 USD) but it's end now due to market saturation and red ocean so I stopped doing it. This period of time is like when MJ doing web designs before creating Limos.com. It's more like a job, time consuming, and not a money-making system.

However, at the time I was doing that, I have no any passion of creating products to help anyone. I just want to make money from my skills ! It's already a good market that brings tons of buyers and I'm just a normal seller in a good environment, nice buying mood.

Therefore, lots of sales comes without putting efforts on marketing. (Ah, I have to mention that I'm eager to support buyers (for my products) at first but getting bored and frustrated few months later, sorry buyers )

Obstacle
I'm thinking a lot now about finding problems to solve, finding people needs/demand for a thing that sells, finding a product that helps people (mostly online ideas, some are offline ideas) but it seems to block me, I'm stuck and lack of idea. I'm trying to think small but still nothing comes up. Therefore, I think I'm lacking of a mind of helping/improving people life.

I want to keep walking again.
The good time for my previous 1M had already ended.
I'd like to have the next life-changing like MJ creating Limos.com after doing web design gigs.

Can anyone give me advice of anything (for me to improve i.e. attitude, steps to get ideas, etc.) to make this happens ?

Any advice is really welcome. I'm selfish, but open-minded

P.S. Now, I'm getting shit for a living from corporate 9-5

Thanks

 

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[GoodluckChuck]

Maybe they sell empathy on eBay?

 

[ravenspear]

I think it's important to keep in mind that in general the people who are the most rich also helped the most people. They sold the most products or services so obviously more people found their products/services useful. So it's not one or the other. If you have a product that helps a lot of people you will usually make a lot of money.

Also it's really the amount of people that your product reaches and not primarily the utility of the product. It can be just entertainment for example, which one could argue doesn't really add significant usefullness to most people's lives, but if that's what they are valuing when they make their purchase decision then you still get the sale.

The basic takeaway is, you don't need to be the most altruistic soul out there as long as you remember that correlation.

 

[jon.a]

I'm a landlord. I have little passion for my tenants.

I have a passion for providing a quality rent-able product.
I have a passion for our investments being an efficient use of capital.
I have a passion for making and keeping the machine running smoothly.

 

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[LuckyPup]

Hi all,

I've just read TMF book few month ago. Thanks MJ for your great book !

After finish reading, I think the main thing I need to overcome is I have no passion about helping anyone as MJ asks us to have it (I think I'm a self-centric guy since I was born ) but I have only one passion which is getting rich and money.

Intro
I used to sell copies of digital stuff online and get a million (1M in my country's currency, around 30,000 USD) but it's end now due to market saturation and red ocean so I stopped doing it. This period of time is like when MJ doing web designs before creating Limos.com. It's more like a job, time consuming, and not a money-making system.

However, at the time I was doing that, I have no any passion of creating products to help anyone. I just want to make money from my skills ! It's already a good market that brings tons of buyers and I'm just a normal seller in a good environment, nice buying mood.

Therefore, lots of sales comes without putting efforts on marketing. (Ah, I have to mention that I'm eager to support buyers (for my products) at first but getting bored and frustrated few months later, sorry buyers )

Obstacle
I'm thinking a lot now about finding problems to solve, finding people needs/demand for a thing that sells, finding a product that helps people (mostly online ideas, some are offline ideas) but it seems to block me, I'm stuck and lack of idea. I'm trying to think small but still nothing comes up. Therefore, I think I'm lacking of a mind of helping/improving people life.

I want to keep walking again.
The good time for my previous 1M had already ended.
I'd like to have the next life-changing like MJ creating Limos.com after doing web design gigs.

Can anyone give me advice of anything (for me to improve i.e. attitude, steps to get ideas, etc.) to make this happens ?

Any advice is really welcome. I'm selfish, but open-minded

P.S. Now, I'm getting shit for a living from corporate 9-5

Thanks

Why the f*** should anyone help you?

 

[JAJT]

So you fully admit to being selfish and not giving a shit about helping people while in the same breath asking for help from others?

Think about that for a second.

 

[TonyStark]

Your first post needs to be about giving value, this sucked the value out of me.

 

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[Millenial_Kid5K1]

I'm a landlord. I have little passion for my tenants.

I have a passion for providing a quality rent-able product.
I have a passion for our investments being an efficient use of capital.
I have a passion for making and keeping the machine running smoothly.

I love this. You can be excited about crafting a high quality product and experience without necessarily being an empath.

I don't run a business yet so take this with a grain of salt, but you need to recognize it as an area you are deficient in, and be hyper-vigilant to keep stellar customer-service people around.

Props to the OP for being brutally honest.

 

[G-Man]

Can anyone give me advice of anything (for me to improve i.e. attitude, steps to get ideas, etc.) to make this happens ?

I actually recently came out with a 12 week program called "How I Stopped Being a Dick". It's available for 12 easy payments of 89.99. It's well worth your time, and the best part is: If you need after sale support you won't get it, because I'll have already moved on to the next easy money scheme.

 

[LuckyPup]

Your first post needs to be about giving value, this sucked the value out of me.

It just sucked, period.

 

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[LuckyPup]

I actually recently came out with a 12 week program called "How I Stopped Being a Dick". It's available for 12 easy payments of 89.99. It's well worth your time, and the best part is: If you need after sale support you won't get it, because I'll have already moved on to the next easy money scheme.

Hahaha! I think you're onto something - I actually think it would sell.

 

[LuckyPup]

So you fully admit to being selfish and not giving a shit about helping people while in the same breath asking for help from others?

Think about that for a second.

That's a tall order - asking him to think. I really do think some people lack the introspection gene.

 

[OnePunchMan]

Hey guys,

Before you guys are getting more high temper, I wrote the title and describe myself that way to make it clearly black and white so that it's easy to imagine and hope of getting touch the point advice!

No one is black or white, people is grey. Do you really think I'm really that selfish ?

Why should I share my introduction background guys ?

The world is grey, having some sense of humor.

 

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[jon.a]

I actually recently came out with a 12 week program called "How I Stopped Being a Dick". It's available for 12 easy payments of 89.99. It's well worth your time, and the best part is: If you need after sale support you won't get it, because I'll have already moved on to the next easy money scheme.

Stopped?

 

[G-Man]

Stopped?

Said I wrote the course, not took it.

 

[OnePunchMan]

I think it's important to keep in mind that in general the people who are the most rich also helped the most people. They sold the most products or services so obviously more people found their products/services useful. So it's not one or the other. If you have a product that helps a lot of people you will usually make a lot of money.

Also it's really the amount of people that your product reaches and not primarily the utility of the product. It can be just entertainment for example, which one could argue doesn't really add significant usefullness to most people's lives, but if that's what they are valuing when they make their purchase decision then you still get the sale.

The basic takeaway is, you don't need to be the most altruistic soul out there as long as you remember that correlation.

Nice and helpful comment.

Thanks

 

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[OnePunchMan]

I'm a landlord. I have little passion for my tenants.

I have a passion for providing a quality rent-able product.
I have a passion for our investments being an efficient use of capital.
I have a passion for making and keeping the machine running smoothly.

Nice one though. Make me have some paradigm shift.

 

[OnePunchMan]

Props to the OP for being brutally honest.

Make me feel better here. Thanks

Agree about crafting HQ products but I have to find the need for that products there too. If not, it cannot be sold.

 

[Ika]

You know what could have turned this whole thread around?

Instead of asking

I'm selfish. I don't want to change. How can I make money?

You could have asked:

I'm selfish. I want to change. How can be passionate for helping other people?

You can still come back. Take a moment to think and ask the right questions.




Since OP has not done it, I'm posting the question I expected while opening the thread:

I do not care about other people. What can I do to actually care?
I mean actual caring, deep down.
Feeling fulfilled when helping, not feeling used.
Helping with passion, not just helping because I read it on the internet.

Right now, helping others is not motivating me.
How can I change that?

My only idea: Help others as much as you can, provide value as much as you can - no matter how you feel. And slowly you will develop, or train, that feeling. Like a muscle.
No idea if that makes sense, but I'm still going to do it - better help someone and don't feel anything than sit on a couch and don't to anything.

Now that's a question I want to see an answer for.

Let's use this thread for something positive that actually helps peole searching for the topic.
~Ika

 

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[Nicoknowsbest]

Go volunteer.

Do some social work.

Go to a hospital and make people laugh.

Realize how lucky you are.

Smile more.

Let yourself get infected by the magic.

Realize that if you don't give a f@ck about others, nobody will give a f@ck about you.

 

[OnePunchMan]

You know what could have turned this whole thread around?

Instead of asking


You could have asked:


You can still come back. Take a moment to think and ask the right questions.


Since OP has not done it, I'm posting the question I expected while opening the thread:


Now that's a question I want to see an answer for.

Let's use this thread for something positive, for peole searching for the topic.
~Ika

Umm... at the end of my thread. saying "Open-minded" and "for me to improve i.e. attitude, steps to get ideas, etc." are not touching your eyes?
No one feels like my thread is pretending that I'm selfish with some funny emoticons.
Maybe, cultural difference doesn't make it work :'(

 

[MidwestLandlord]

I'm in a shit mood today, so here goes...

It amazes me how often MJ's work is used to create cognitive distortions in the realm of "all-or-nothing" thinking.

Just amazing.

Like "help people" means that you have to cure F*cking cancer or something. Or that you have to love everybody just the way they are and be super empathetic at all times.

Seriously?

I mean, unless you are a genuine psychopath, then this thread is just hyperbole and trying to disguise the typical "what should I sell?" question this forum get's A LOT.

"Help people" means to create a product or service that fills a NEED.

Why?

Because people will not buy if there is NO NEED FOR IT!

Even in the case of extreme marketing pushing a shitty product, all that happened is that people were convinced they had a NEED that they didn't really have...hence why lot's (most) of those products fail, because at the end of the day THERE IS NO NEED.

If you can't see NEED's anywhere, it's because you WON'T...not because you CAN'T.

Unless, like I said, you are a genuine psychopath that is physiologically wired to not feel empathy.

 

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[MidwestLandlord]

No one is black or white, people is grey. Do you really think I'm really that selfish ?

this thread is just hyperbole and trying to disguise the typical "what should I sell?" question this forum get's A LOT.

I see I was right.

 

[OnePunchMan]

I'm in a shit mood today, so here goes...

It amazes me how often MJ's work is used to create cognitive distortions in the realm of "all-or-nothing" thinking.

Just amazing.

Like "help people" means that you have to cure F*cking cancer or something. Or that you have to love everybody just the way they are and be super empathetic at all times.

Seriously?

I mean, unless you are a genuine psychopath, then this thread is just hyperbole and trying to disguise the typical "what should I sell?" question this forum get's A LOT.

"Help people" means to create a product or service that fills a NEED.

Why?

Because people will not buy if there is NO NEED FOR IT!

Even in the case of extreme marketing pushing a shitty product, all that happened is that people were convinced they had a NEED that they didn't really have...hence why lot's (most) of those products fail, because at the end of the day THERE IS NO NEED.

If you can't see NEED's anywhere, it's because you WON'T...not because you CAN'T.

Unless, like I said, you are a genuine psychopath that is physiologically wired to not feel empathy.

Apart from your shit mood, the content touch the point about NEED.

"If you can't see NEED's anywhere, it's because you WON'T...not because you CAN'T."

Thanks

 

[Ika]

Umm... at the end of my thread. saying "Open-minded" and "for me to improve i.e. attitude, steps to get ideas, etc." are not touching your eyes?

Ah, I linked that to the "money making" aspect (I'm open minded on how to make money, I want to improve my making money skills, my attitude on how to make money), not to the "empathy" aspect (I'm open minded on how to be not that self centered, I want to improve my emapthy and attitude).
I'm sorry, it was an understanding issue from my side - thank you for clearing things up!

No one feels like my thread is pretending that I'm selfish with some funny emoticons.
Maybe, cultural difference doesn't make it work :'(

Yes, I got the feeling that you think beeing selfish is funny and a good thing - hence my negative reaction.
Maybe rewrite some of your points?

And yes, props for beeing honest with yourself and with the internet - it takes courage.

Go volunteer.
Do some social work.
Go to a hospital and make people laugh.
Realize how lucky you are.
Smile more.
Let yourself get infected by the magic.

Good points!

 

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[OnePunchMan]

If you can't see NEED's anywhere, it's because you WON'T...not because you CAN'T.

Keep re-thinking about this nano seconds ago. This is the hardest part.
I don't see any NEED anywhere now.
I'll retry again tomorrow.

 

[OnePunchMan]

Ah, I linked that to the "money making" aspect (I'm open minded on how to make money, I want to improve my making money skills, my attitude on how to make money), not to the "empathy" aspect (I'm open minded on how to be not that self centered, I want to improve my emapthy and attitude).
I'm sorry, it was an understanding issue from my side - thank you for clearing things up!


Yes, I got the feeling that you think beeing selfish is funny and a good thing - hence my negative reaction.
Maybe rewrite some of your points?

And yes, props for beeing honest with yourself and with the internet - it takes courage.




Good points!

No problem. I'm an English-as-a-second-language person. I don't get some western's jokes though.

The good thing is that people on TMF want to get rich, being business men but strongly hate people with selfish attitude of making money (I think all business men have, especially in WallStreet).
That's good and unexpected side!

 

[Argue]

It's not about making a buck, it's about adding value. It's not about chasing money, it's about chasing needs.

adding value + solving needs = success

chasing money + not filling needs = failure

 

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[OnePunchMan]

It's not about making a buck, it's about adding value. It's not about chasing money, it's about chasing needs.

adding value + solving needs = success

chasing money + not filling needs = failure

Nice and simple formula. The hardest variable in this formula is finding what are those "NEEDS".

Remind me of MJ's story about chasing a bad cat too.

 

[Sheps]

Keep re-thinking about this nano seconds ago. This is the hardest part.
I don't see any NEED anywhere now.
I'll retry again tomorrow.

Seriously? Get your bank statements for 6 months and look at your "out" column. Those are your needs.

No more spoon feeding. Open your eyes and the first place you need to look is the mirror.

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